Software (ease of use, features, etc) - OnePlus 5 Real Life Review

When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the OnePlus 5's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Lack of battery saver customization
Poor Alert Slider option

Too restricted camera apps.
They should have included options like more camera modes, filters, option to switch to telephoto camera, more depth effect tuning option, some more video options like slower slow mo, higher resolution slow no video, eis on off toggle, manual option for saturation contrast brightness...
There are lots more

No dual apps very poor app locker very poor gallery app in terms of editing camera app in regular mode have no options no theme engine and no support for substratum no cloud storage.
Really oneplus what are u doing?
Miui is giving us all these options but a big gun like oneplus is not giving why?
All oneplus devices have greatest hardware of that time so why the are fearing to include such features whole very lower end devices support these.
Really disappointed.

narshi shukla said:
No dual apps very poor app locker very poor gallery app in terms of editing camera app in regular mode have no options no theme engine and no support for substratum no cloud storage.
Really oneplus what are u doing?
Miui is giving us all these options but a big gun like oneplus is not giving why?
All oneplus devices have greatest hardware of that time so why the are fearing to include such features whole very lower end devices support these.
Really disappointed.
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I know this post is nearly a year old, but fortunately it has most of the features you mention are "missing" preinstalled.
Dual apps: use "Parallel Space" on play store if you really need it at all
Gallery app: Google Photos (which is awesome)
Editing: Google Snapseed (also awesome)
Substratum: Full support as it's almost stock Android, do some research. Also has native light or black themes.
Cloud storage: Google Drive.
Just in case new users are mislead ?

MDW 100 said:
I know this post is nearly a year old, but fortunately it has most of the features you mention are "missing" preinstalled.
Dual apps: use "Parallel Space" on play store if you really need it at all
Gallery app: Google Photos (which is awesome)
Editing: Google Snapseed (also awesome)
Substratum: Full support as it's almost stock Android, do some research. Also has native light or black themes.
Cloud storage: Google Drive.
Just in case new users are mislead
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hmm,
all of these are workarounds, but still its better if some of these are built into oos itself,
and ya its a year old post and i m not an 'Noob' user anymore, i knows OOS is way better than miui, but still both these targets different audience so comparison will always be biased.
oos itself have improved a lot now , for some users its a selling point.

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Android "List what you dislike or hope to see changed"

Sorry mods if i placed this in the wrong section but I just hope google reads this and fixes its faults. I want everyone reading this to post there issues or dislikes so we can enjoy this UI more while providing the best experience to us and other earthlings out there.
1. standby - I noticed the battery life is pretty good when it comes to playing movies,music and little bit of gaming but the standby is just horrid i know are phones are powerful as umpc but there should be a better way to lower consumption on sleep mode.
2. market - not really liking the new layout it needs to be more organized and less oversized.
3. multitasking - it's good obviously between switching to apps right away but sometimes i am left with too much baggage. I suggest there should be a setting to switch this option on/off.
4. scrolling - pretty good but still a little bit of lag now and then. would like the bounce when you hit the edge of the page.
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest.
7. websites - still has some bugs and glitches.
8. sdxc - running out of room here needs support of the extra capaity of sd cards.
9. apps - more quality apps. it seems like they just throw the free ones in the market without fully testing it for bugs. i have to scroll through dozens of unknown users with opinions that are just randomly unbiased.
10. standby again! - please fix this google!!! if i am left stranded from my car broken down or if i am vacationing to another then i'm screwed. I had a winmo phone did me good lasted more than a week on standby.....
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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I'm not talking about category but how the market is viewed it's all oversized block columns I prefer it to be more smaller and with more information in each block. I know there are app killers but it's better if it's official built running it would be more stabled and furthermore i hope more people will list there dislikes or changes about android and maybe google and the phone manufacturers will see this and make some fixes to there next builds. i want this thread to be seen by google from future post from xda users dislikes and hoping to change the faults....
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
Mcds said:
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
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What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
hungry81 said:
What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
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usually when i compare the ebay iphone app to android it's less animated it's dull coming from someone in there thirties i can get to bored easily. don't get me wrong i'm using the 2g iphone it's smooth also laggy my 1ghz android is smooth but the phone doesn't animate i guess it depends on what apps you get also...
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gigem01 said:
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
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This is the answer I am looking for from all of you, what you want to change! this deserves a thanks!
Android market has one of the worst layouts..(Both in Android as well as on Website) Despite having all the resources at disposal why they are still taking time to improve the layout?(Laziness??)
message apk should be improved
Given your initial post it sounds as though WP7 may be a better OS to suit your needs.
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
comedy said:
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
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Mcds is confusing hardware with Android. Basically he'd like the lowest brightness setting on his phone to be dimmer.
You know how the lowest brightness setting on one phone can actually be brighter than a different model, just as the highest setting can be brighter on one handset compared with a different model. It's down to the hardware, not Android.
all these things can be fixed with either a new ROM new kernel or just an app download... when it comes to android, if you know wt u doing then there is nothing that cant be fixed/tweeked to ur liking... that's the power of android my friend RECOGNIZEEEEEEEEEE
Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
Smartphones are app platforms, whatever flavour the OS is. Most of what people spend time doing on their phone, whether it be texting, gaming or emailing, is using apps. UI isn't a factor for me as i only see it for a very brief period until i launch the app i need.
If anything, it's the quality of the apps that should be compared between platforms, not the UI. Android Market could probably do with a bit more quality control, that's my own criticism really. Like for like apps on iOS are often more polished than their Android equivalent.
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Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
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Exactly, you've freely admitted that you found Android too complex, so of course the simplicity of such a basic OS as WP7 is going to appeal, lets face it, it's even less complex than iOS.
It's ideal for people who have never used a touch screen phone before, or even a mobile phone of any kind, especially if they have fat fingers, the sort of people who are not going to notice the lack of functionality but are easily impressed with visual effects.
xaccers, I still find it comical that you call me the troll but eh. I guess if that's your prerogative. I prefer my phone have decent social integration or as they put it, be "peoplecentric." as I use my phone primarily for *gasp* communication. The fact that it's also aesthetically pleasing is just a bonus, another that android does not have.
DirkGently, I agree to some extent, but I guess I feel the way I do because with WP7 the UI is uniform across the whole OS and most third party apps. I've come to appreciate the beauty in that. I do also agree that I see more quality in both the iOS and WP7 versions of apps that are on all platforms.
Let's not forget that you can't connect to ad-hoc wireless networks. I mean... c'mon...this is just lame.
Kinda not related, but i'ld like the source to be mirrored at some more reliable location xD
Getting to topic, i do like the custom overlays(tw, sense, etc..) but they take significant resources and are one of the causes behind slow updates
Wifi is the big problem for me
I have wifi issues with Archos 70 (Android 2.1 to 2.3, rooted), and Arcer Iconia (Honeycomb 3.2 rooted). Android seems does not like my working wifi and stay in obtaining ip most of the time.
And, I plan to listen some online radio (Domi, Douban for say), once the tablet goes to idle mode, wifi disconnected, make it useless. I tried to set wifi disconnect policy, tried wifi alive, wifi lock, wifi buddy and maybe most wifi related apps in the market, none work.
While iTouch works fine for above 2 scenarios.
Battery life and more quality apps. Seriously, has anyone else noticed that Android apps feel kinda rushed and low quality. Especially if that company/app is on iOS. I always felt that the iOS counterparts seem a lot better and that more time and effort is put into them.
Also, improvement on multitasking. I don't really like the little recent app window crap. Something along the lines of WebOS's multitasking screen would be a really nice addition. Also, notifications should be a little more organized. Apple did a good job with this on their notification dropdown ripoff..
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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By UI he probably means Android's base UI, Stock Android. You have to admit, it is pretty meh. Downloading a app killer/task manager is a bad idea. That bogs down Android more than background apps do.

Super Touch App- Reduce Lag and make you touch screen smooth.

I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.
Super smooth on Android touch screen, avoid content not-follow-up problems.
Review :http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spot...d-up-your-sluggish-Android-smartphone_id75851
AndroidCommunity: Super Touch optimizes touch function, improves battery consumption. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw1fjbuCg
Facebook page : https://m.facebook.com/supertouchapp/
1. Magnificent screen sliding respond, easy sliding on screen and no longer delay.
2. Incredibly smooth on zooming web pages or images as well as any operations needing to zoom.
3. Sliding to all directions is unbelievably quick and smooth.
4. Unbelievably quick and smooth lists rolling.
5. Much faster launching and loading Apps.
6. Speedy and accurate typing experience.
7. Much rapid on playing all sorts of games.
8. The first power-saving optimization app that does not affecting phones’ performance.
Super Touch allows you to experience unprecedented smooth smart phones.
Main functions:
One of this App’s main functions is to allow Android devices sliding much quicker and smoother, which will solve the problem of slow drag.
Sliding, dragging and zooming are far smoother; content follows up your fingertip; switching columns is also a lot quicker.
Lists rolling is extraordinarily speedier and smoother, typing is incredibly easier.
There is also a very practical power-saving optimization function, which doesn’t sacrifice the performance of the phone.
Important Instruction:
720P resolution is recommended a level of 600-1314
1080P resolution is recommended a level of 1520-3998
2K resolution with Qualcomm’s GPU is recommend a level of 5186-6998
2K resolution, non- Qualcomm GPU is recommended a level of 600-1520 ( For example, Samsung S6 and Series Edge )
2K or 4K resolution with Qualcomm GPU both can use level 9998.
The above information is only reference; please adjust to the most appropriate level for specific phones.
1. Higher the GPU ability is, the smoother it will be within a higher level, relatively, a high level with a poor GPU is less effective.
2. After launching touch optimization and being enabled, it can work without running in background (about 1 minute to take effect, depend on CPU’s performance)
3. Do not switch off auto start-up, every time rebooting system requires a auto optimization permission.
There will be a small portion of extra power consumption while enabling the optimization system, and after power consumption will go back to normal.
Advanced function is a smooth level of 300 – 9998, it can be open to use when a phone reaches the standard.
No Root permission needed for all functions.
Sliding optimization will be disabled for some devices while charging, (system controls the effect when it disables) It will be notified of the optimization system disabled while charging.
Download link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
Video : https://youtu.be/4EErsNZrpjM
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
dictionary said:
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
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I don't see any link to download.
ndrancs said:
I don't see any link to download.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
dictionary said:
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
Sorry about that forgotten to post the link.
Super App this one
How about making a video on how the app works
interesting im going to test it, subscribed
Im using this app and idk whether it helps to reduce stuttering while scrolling on my phone. But im using a custom lock screen and the lock screen doesn't show during unlock when i enable thiss app. Lock screen shows when this app is disabled.
Hum this app seem to be suspicious! in the description it says the advanced feature can be disabled only with official firmware flash ...
wil123 said:
Hum this app seem to be suspicious! in the description it says the advanced feature can be disabled only with official firmware flash ...
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The app would record the phone's IMEI when unlock advanced function.
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really.. chinese, they cant get enough. always trying to fool.
as soon as iv seen the "advanced feature" page iv uninstalled it. unbelievable
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The app would record the phone's IMEI when unlock advanced function.
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Why?
working well!
:good::good:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
Tricks25 said:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
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Why don't you try out the app yourself and see the results. [emoji2]
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Tricks25 said:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
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https://youtu.be/4EErsNZrpjM
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we're not a guinea pigs, there are still chinese text in the app and the english text is not human english. and what is the "advanced feature" exactly.
users wanna use the app but not like that, we need way more info and transparency about it. tnx
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Agreed with the above poster.
And in your video, the app/optimization is "disabled" by plugging in your charger. Ive experienced personally some of my devices become laggier when connected to charger maybe because of actions/apps which are running when plugged in.

Wide Appreture editing app, besides stock gallery

So I have been thinking, in a few years, when everyone gets new phones, with new features. How are we going to edit the pictures taken with Wide Aperture mode (fake bokeh)? The only app able to change the depth of field of the picture is the stock gallery app by Huawei/honor that came with the phone.
Google photos DOES save the information to be edited later (but there is no way to edit them on Google photos app as far as I can tell).
So if a year later you restore photos to this phone and try to edit them, you can, but only with the stock gallery app.
Anyone here know of any 3rd party software on Windows desktop, and or on the web or android that can do this? So we don't have to be reliant on the Gallery app from Huawei in case we change phones later on.
Thanks.
You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.
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You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.
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I am well aware how this camera works, i am a part time photographer, This was not my question! my question was if there is an external source or app that allows us to edit these kinds of photos as the gallery app does, to refocus after we take the pics using the wide aperture mode.
I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.
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I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.
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So basically after a few years if we want to edit these pictures it would either be impossible with another brand of phone, or might perhaps be possible if we keep buying huawei phones, with this feature, which is not a sure thing.
Yes I think so. But I didn't investigate on this topic. At least one can still open the Jpeg as the depth information is somewhat in it.
Unfortunately no third party apps that can do this.
Maybe if someone can port the gallery app, that will work!

Android 8.0 Oreo and Sony-xperia-XZ-Premium

Oreo dropped yesterday for the pixel etc. How quick or slow is Sony with getting out major releases?
dude watch your life, they will release it when it's ready..............
Predictions made here http://www.androidauthority.com/android-8-0-update-784308/
It will release when its ready Enjoy your device until then
I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.
Ha, what condisending replies. My life is good thank you and I already enjoy my device. Just trying to start a discussion on the matter.
Well it better arrives fast, the Bluetooth issue is really annoying me, can't enjoy the device as I wish I could.
At least three months
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Can't we get the bugs squashed in this version before we move on to another one? Everybody wants the latest greatest as if it will fix everything when in reality all it does is introduce new bugs and then this whole merry-go-round of complaints starts all over again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc., etc.
I think we get the point...at least I wish somebody would!
The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.
gee2012 said:
The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.
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I don't know what rock you have been under but 8 is very much out since a few days back, and OEMs absolutely receive early versions to start preparations.
Since Oreo was only released 4 days ago and probably been uploaded to AOSP only 3 days don't expect Oreo on other devices for like 2-3 months at least..
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Xifar said:
I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.
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Treble is only to update faster. Messing with the camera quality when unlocking is a Sony thing
I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD
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I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD
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I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/
Lazaros_K said:
Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/
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Like it was siad...
xperia keyboard requires maintenance and reason why it´s no longer available. The cost strategy around SD is to CUT!!!
@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...
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@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...
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Absolutely right! TrackID service has been killed which annoys me as nothing works as well, they are pushing us to use Shazam but the comparison between the two apps shows that TrackID is far superior to Shazam. But, if you go to APKMirror website and search for Sony apps, you can find most of the things they have removed as stand-alone APK's and they are compatible up to Android Nougat.
I just purchased my XZ Premium, it is due for delivery tomorrow and I am still using my immaculate Z5 Premium, but if there are lots of Sony apps missing that I am used to using on my Z5 Premium, I may have to send it back or rather not upgrade to Oreo and get the apps off APKMirror for Nougat.
Dual Shock 3 support is gone on 8.0?
Mines working now on 7.1.1
decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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4 = from Google ( All Android phones after 6, not only Sony )
6 = agree with you, also you can installing the apps manually
7 = Xperia keyboard available to download, the bad thing swift keyboard can't be disabling or uninstall!
14 = they not removing this fetures, you can find it in ( setting > Device connection ) first one.
Some points , you can install the apps apk
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I have recorded on my XZP @ 4k 60fps 100mbps bitrate while I was playing @ 4k 60fps an HDR at the end of the movie.

What is your wishlist for future Funtouch/system firmware updates ?

So it looks like Vivo seem to take some what good care about the updates so far and android 9 is promised to be delivered to us for Q4.
So what is your wishlist or recommendation that vivo should work on for future firmware updates ?
I have the chinese version myself and I realize that those with a global version have a vastly different experience then those global users with the Chinese rom.
So Please tell us what you are using also...some of the stuff is fixed in the global version.
Funtouch is getting a lot of criticism for being a iOS look a like, personally I find it not to be a negative thing, transparent UI feels more timeless to me, it looks more modern, while the android vanilla looks to me kind of dated and where not much have happen in the last 5 years. I also like that the design is kind of streamlined, I used textra sms app before but now I think the stock sms app looks better in conjunction with the rest of the UI experience. So I dont mind they dont use material design. I really like the control panel swipe from left button its more ergonomic and smart then swiping from top. I dont like the stock launcher, just as with the other chinese launchers like miui, emui etc I dont like the folders I dont want the folder to pop up in the middle of the screen its just less ergonomic and less easy to reach, that is why I use Rootless Pixel Launcher.
Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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Notifications from external applications are what is missing from the AOD. If not for the smartwatch, I do not know how I could do it without notifications.
I sorry for my English, I use Google Translator.
I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:
paatha13 said:
Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
ruk21201 said:
I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:
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If you have performance problem I think it might depend on what permissions you gave to the apps, I did try to give all apps with push notifcations "startup" permission I saw a drastic change in battery life, its this permission I think make it lay constantly in background and talk and syncing with all google apps in background constantly, with it on I got a more "normal" battery life from what I usually get from a phone sold in the west. Be also careful with what apps you give "allow high power consumption in background", in my findings, as long as you have the "autostart" permissions you dont need to have it added in the "allow high power consumption" list if its is chat apps, the only expection here is multimedia apps for video and audio this are the apps that most be added in this list otherwise to break..
When I added "Start up" permission to too many apps I did experience the phone to feel more "heavy" and not as fast...
blackinfinity said:
I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
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According to Vivo support the software update that supposedly brings support LDAC is fake.
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After latest update Vivo add LDAC support to device.
1.20.5 Chinese version
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/nex-global-rom-features-compared-to-t3821224/page7
So one major feature lack of Vivo software has been resolved.
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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
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I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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I'm all about the battery life. Even the battery is good got around 9h sot I'd like it to be more like 10-11h of sot. Everything else is solid.
paatha13 said:
I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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Thanks for the information I did read some other person who did disable wisdom engine without any problems but now I will not consider to disable it...
the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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paatha13 said:
Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
hamdir said:
i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
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I prefer more personalized communication with them so talking with them only via messenger support
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hamdir said:
the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
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When I look at my global version of my vivo NEX S I don't see or feel an IOS device maybe change your launcher, this is android you have a choice.

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