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Android 8.0 Oreo and Sony-xperia-XZ-Premium

Oreo dropped yesterday for the pixel etc. How quick or slow is Sony with getting out major releases?

dude watch your life, they will release it when it's ready..............

Predictions made here http://www.androidauthority.com/android-8-0-update-784308/
It will release when its ready Enjoy your device until then

I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.

Ha, what condisending replies. My life is good thank you and I already enjoy my device. Just trying to start a discussion on the matter.

Well it better arrives fast, the Bluetooth issue is really annoying me, can't enjoy the device as I wish I could.

At least three months
Sent from my G8141 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Can't we get the bugs squashed in this version before we move on to another one? Everybody wants the latest greatest as if it will fix everything when in reality all it does is introduce new bugs and then this whole merry-go-round of complaints starts all over again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc., etc.
I think we get the point...at least I wish somebody would!

The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.

gee2012 said:
The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.
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I don't know what rock you have been under but 8 is very much out since a few days back, and OEMs absolutely receive early versions to start preparations.

Since Oreo was only released 4 days ago and probably been uploaded to AOSP only 3 days don't expect Oreo on other devices for like 2-3 months at least..
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Xifar said:
I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.
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Treble is only to update faster. Messing with the camera quality when unlocking is a Sony thing

I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD

nomailx said:
I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD
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I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/

Lazaros_K said:
Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/
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Like it was siad...
xperia keyboard requires maintenance and reason why it´s no longer available. The cost strategy around SD is to CUT!!!

@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...

lebigmac said:
@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...
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Absolutely right! TrackID service has been killed which annoys me as nothing works as well, they are pushing us to use Shazam but the comparison between the two apps shows that TrackID is far superior to Shazam. But, if you go to APKMirror website and search for Sony apps, you can find most of the things they have removed as stand-alone APK's and they are compatible up to Android Nougat.
I just purchased my XZ Premium, it is due for delivery tomorrow and I am still using my immaculate Z5 Premium, but if there are lots of Sony apps missing that I am used to using on my Z5 Premium, I may have to send it back or rather not upgrade to Oreo and get the apps off APKMirror for Nougat.

Dual Shock 3 support is gone on 8.0?
Mines working now on 7.1.1

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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4 = from Google ( All Android phones after 6, not only Sony )
6 = agree with you, also you can installing the apps manually
7 = Xperia keyboard available to download, the bad thing swift keyboard can't be disabling or uninstall!
14 = they not removing this fetures, you can find it in ( setting > Device connection ) first one.
Some points , you can install the apps apk

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I have recorded on my XZP @ 4k 60fps 100mbps bitrate while I was playing @ 4k 60fps an HDR at the end of the movie.

Various questions about Note 10

Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!

astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!
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Hi,
I can only answer 2 questions, as I don't own the device, but looking into the specs, this phone does not have band 20, used by O2 and Vodafone here in the UK, so you will only get 3G+ speeds, Three UK and EE will get 4G+ speeds. Nova Launcher should run just fine, had Huawei/Honor CN models before and Nova launcher was running fine on them.
Still not decided in ordering one, I had the Vivo NEX before and that was just on the limit size wise for me, if you get it, let us know how do get along with it.
Have a good one.

Many thanks for your input. If you or anybody else will have any additional input on these topics please share it. If I will get the phone I will write my feedback as well, at the moment I am not sure what to get ...

1. Notifications work fine for me as long as I go into "settings -> apps" and then individually change the battery setting for each and every desired app. Going into phone manager alone and change app launch permissions is not enough.
3. Works as well as on any other phone I've had.
5. 3G/4G works as intended in bigger citys. In the countryside 4G will suffer and will not be available mostly. I'm in Sweden.
8. I don't see any chinese at all after setting it all up and disabling stuff I don't want.
9. No issues at all. Works just fine.
10. It has a notification light. and the possibility to turn on the screen when notifications arrive. The always on display they have is worthless and only shows time and battery.

dannejanne said:
1. Notifications work fine for me as long as I go into "settings -> apps" and then individually change the battery setting for each and every desired app. Going into phone manager alone and change app launch permissions is not enough.
3. Works as well as on any other phone I've had.
5. 3G/4G works as intended in bigger citys. In the countryside 4G will suffer and will not be available mostly. I'm in Sweden.
8. I don't see any chinese at all after setting it all up and disabling stuff I don't want.
9. No issues at all. Works just fine.
10. It has a notification light. and the possibility to turn on the screen when notifications arrive. The always on display they have is worthless and only shows time and battery.
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Big thanks for your detailed input, highly appreciate your effort.
May I ask you (or anybody else who would be willing to contribute) to to check how well an Open camera/CameraMX work on this phone?

astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!
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Got my note 10 from Liaow to Ireland in about 4 days. Nfc payment in stores does not work. Tried everything. Safety net app keeps failing. Google does not play nice with Huawei either. No ability to wake device from screen off or lock screen like my previous Galaxy s8 plus. Google Assistant also will not recognize what's app contacts for voice texts. Google maps location history will not turn on either so it's not possible to share your ongoing location with friends and family. Great phone all the same just wish it played well with Google for the reasons mentioned above.

ScottMaglace said:
Got my note 10 from Liaow to Ireland in about 4 days. Nfc payment in stores does not work. Tried everything. Safety net app keeps failing. Google does not play nice with Huawei either. No ability to wake device from screen off or lock screen like my previous Galaxy s8 plus. Google Assistant also will not recognize what's app contacts for voice texts. Google maps location history will not turn on either so it's not possible to share your ongoing location with friends and family. Great phone all the same just wish it played well with Google for the reasons mentioned above.
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Many thanks for the input. After a lot of thinking I have decided to get Samsung galaxy S9+ instead of Note10. I bought from ebay (used but condition as new for 600£), phone is designed for UK market and still has 18 months of warranty. The main reasons which have driven me away from Honor was that water resistance, local warranty, headphone jack, better camera with OIS and no dust, etc. I also wanted a slightly smaller phone but this wasn't a major factor.
All the best for you Honor users! :angel:
PS I will still keep my Honor X2 for watching news at home etc.

1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
It works fine, notifications are displayed
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
CameraMX and OpenCamera work but do not support all the features of the Note10 (example 60fps video)
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
Nova launcher works fine and the previous version (5.4) also supports forced scroll background)
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
Never had problems (both 2.4 and 5.8). Excellent signal on both routers and drones
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
Work well on the two 3G / 4G fronts and switch from one band to another fast
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
GPS is fast. Only problem (perhaps it depends on the CHINESE ROM) does not work the Google Maps history.
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
Italian version
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
No problem with the Google APP and third-party APP
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
It should have it, but I do not use it so I can not answer with certainty
In conclusion it is an EXCELLENT phone, I would buy it again.
The only sore point ... Bootloader BLOCKED!

astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
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I've found notifications to be on the whole unreliable unless you go through the various steps to get notifications to come through plus locking the apps in the recent tasks windows (this last part was what worked for me).
Overall though, the experience is nowhere near as bad as the one I had on the Oppo Find X Chinese ROM.
I can also confirm the phone works fine in 4G with EE.

Any of you can play Netflix in HD (no modded apk version) ? It looks like someone can play Neflix only in SD with this device.
Thanks

Anyone know how to get Google assistent to work.
Every time i have set it up, it goes back to start where it tell me to allow it for use [emoji21]

SmartPhonesFan said:
Hi I have Note 10 and has many pluses and some minuses like all smartphones :
1.It is NOT killing apps make sure wifi is always on and mobile data is always on too and notifications are handled auto..
2.Just checked camera MX and works normally as it should
3.Why nova launcher ? u can change home in settings and have home screen style and you will have drawer ..
4.Perfect no issues at all
5.No absolutely no issues perfect quality if u call huawei to huawei u will hear person like is standing next to you ..
6.No gps issues at all all perfect maps all good but BEST app now is WAZE there are cameras warnings , crash warnings , police cars warnings
7.No problems if u enable data roaming all works .. but some sim cards u need to set up APN manually depends of your provider ..
8.No chinese you can remove all of them except app gallery and hi care but when u select your country it will switch to english or your language .
9.No issues with google play only issue with google pay..
10.Ys it has notification light it has always on display clock
Cons :
Problems with google pay - but contacted google chat and they told me to ask for call request and then call bank and make group call and google person will have to speak with bank person .. wil be doing it tomorrow .
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once again, many thanks for such a detailed input, highly appreciate it. However as I mentioned in other thread I have decided to go with samsung s9+, mainly because it is waterproof, has UK warranty, also I was a little afraid seeing these posts with dust in camera. BTW - iris scanner is also a great thing when you want to unlock the phone with gloves on. On the other hand, damn I miss the big keyboard from Honor X2 ...
Anyway, there is no such thing as perfect phone - its always a compromise between different options. But thanks again for detailed review, I am sure it will be useful for other people
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does Barclays backing app work plz

random questions.

Ah
The thread with multiple questions
I currently have a Xiaomi Pocophone running miui 10 android pie with magisk
All is well but I hate miui... the whole chinese (mi account thing and such). i do have the global version so its all in english.
1)I need a rom that has native call recording like in miui. It auto records phone calls and sound is very clear. and for legality its fine. i am in the middle east. no laws against that.
the current issue with android pie is call recording programs sorta suck at them. most of the time the person you're calling --their voice is low.
2) I got used to gestures by hiding the navigation button and its so much more easier. Also the navigation bar, home button, recent, and back take up screen space. so we get some real estate on a 6.1 inch screen.
There is a program called fluid navigation gestures but it's paid.
I did try it actually, (fluid navigation gestures) and it works rather well. however the question remains... we have AOSP and Lineage based roms. literally all custom roms are forks from those two. isnt this gesture control a feature of android pie?
3) I want the rom had to be able to conserve battery and also accept different kernels.
4) also, I want a rom that can support dual apps like installing whatsapp twice and so on. this is VERY important for me as i have two whatsapp accounts. all major players like Samsung and Huawei and Xiaomi have this feature built it. When you use it then you really get to like it. Primarily cause i have two whatsapp accounts (2 phone #s)
Parallels is awful. i tried to duplicate whatsapp and the notifications dont appear correctly like the primary app does.

cylent said:
Ah
The thread with multiple questions
I currently have a Xiaomi Pocophone running miui 10 android pie with magisk
All is well but I hate miui... the whole chinese (mi account thing and such). i do have the global version so its all in english.
1)I need a rom that has native call recording like in miui. It auto records phone calls and sound is very clear. and for legality its fine. i am in the middle east. no laws against that.
the current issue with android pie is call recording programs sorta suck at them. most of the time the person you're calling --their voice is low.
2) I got used to gestures by hiding the navigation button and its so much more easier. Also the navigation bar, home button, recent, and back take up screen space. so we get some real estate on a 6.1 inch screen.
There is a program called fluid navigation gestures but it's paid.
I did try it actually, (fluid navigation gestures) and it works rather well. however the question remains... we have AOSP and Lineage based roms. literally all custom roms are forks from those two. isnt this gesture control a feature of android pie?
3) I want the rom had to be able to conserve battery and also accept different kernels.
4) also, I want a rom that can support dual apps like installing whatsapp twice and so on. this is VERY important for me as i have two whatsapp accounts. all major players like Samsung and Huawei and Xiaomi have this feature built it. When you use it then you really get to like it. Primarily cause i have two whatsapp accounts (2 phone #s)
Parallels is awful. i tried to duplicate whatsapp and the notifications dont appear correctly like the primary app does.
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You can use a custom ROM and poco community is really big you can get any

RealMe Q - 3rd party messaging app, PC SMS, Start Up Manager issues...

First off, I love this phone and reason why I got the Q China version was because it had the 6GB RAM which the 5 pro does not have with a price gap difference. 90% of this phone is perfect, the other 10% I can live with and hopefully they will make these changes in future updates. For you all looking at this Q model in North America, might want consider this before you get the Q version.
1. Using 3rd party messaging apps, this is basic stuff, why would any company lock you from using another sms app other then the stock one, this is only on the Q models I believe. It's like I'm back using and Iphone again lol. If you go the default settings, it will not list any other installed messaging app. I've been using ChompSMS for years and I love it, not I'm stuck using Q's messaging app, which is not bad but no where close to Chomp. Also, if I'm forced to use their messaging app, at the very least make it more customizable, ie. separate contact tones, pop up quick reply window etc. In ColorOS 6, it use to not even allow me to use another launcher but that got changed/fixed in UI 1.0, thank God, now you can use Nova Prime or your own launcher.
2. PC SMS, I work from home and use my PC to text constantly either with PushBullet or MightyText, with this Messaging app constriction, every time use these PC apps, it asks for a TXT message verification on my phone either face id or fingerprint, kind of defeats the purpose of texting on your PC. I wish there was away around this or a setting, I've looked everywhere in the phone settings and set every damn permission, nope.
3. Startup Manager... great idea to reduce battery use, but only limit to 5? come on. At least give us the option to set how many start up limits we want and just give us a warning that the more we use the more power it drains. Again, back to the Iphone days lol.
Other then these, I'm keeping my phone for all the pros, it's fast, screen looks good, these things are just really annoyances that I hope Oppo/RealMe or whoever will fix in the next OS update. I've seen some post of using custom rom on this Q model but also seeing a lot of glitches, I don't think it's worth having this issues for these minor annoyances. I've been using custom roms on other phones and tablets for years now, some with great luck and some I almost end up throwing the device through my window due to custom rom glitches lol.
If anyone finds a solution(s) for these annoyances other then using custom ROMS, please let me know I'll buy you a coffee and donuts lol.

Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread

hsm90 said:
Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread
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This is the short version lol How are you not able to read all of this?

Question Global ROM or China ROM?

I'm planning to buy the P11 6gb+128. I noticed that the china rom is much cheaper than the global rom version for almost like a $100 and many said that china rom is much stable so I am confused on what to choose. And also the seller said that they will open the box so that they can install global rom. So please help me to decide on what to choose. Thanks.

Personally I prefer ZUI, basically it is a MIUI for Tablets, it has many interesting functions and also in the latest version it allows you to use third-party Launchers.
The bad thing is that the ZUI Security Center is very aggressive, it kills any app you have in the background and leaves them asleep, so you will not have notifications unless you open the app, I guess it depends on each User but at least that happens to me, so far I have not discovered how to prevent that from happening, neither blocking or adding apps to whitelisting works.
In conclusion: If you want features like: Floating Windows, Screenshots with 3 fingers, a visually better PC Mode, Gestures with two or three fingers, Multiple Apps, App Blocking, Automatic Dark Mode What If It Worksamong & other functions that it brings by default , in addition to a much better look than AOSP because go for ZUI, that if you do not care about notifications.