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As I understand it, no Samsung tablet has an actual phone; you would need to use a VOIP app like Skype to make calls, correct? I was kinda hopin' to ditch my smartphone and go tab only...
G.B. Says
And remember, talking dogs are liars.
I am using Tab 7 plus for my phone replacement. However, you have to make sure you buy the right model. It is because Samsung also sell the wifi only for those models, so if you got the wifi only model, you won't be able to make phone call.
I don't know where you from, and which model of tabs Samsung selling in your country. GT-P6200(7+) / GT-P6800(7.7) can be used to make phone calls like the normal phones.
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If you have WIFI only model, you could port your number to google voice and use grooveip. Of course you'd always need to be within range of wifi, but it works
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy Tab 7+ (GT-P6200), and I can use it perfectly as a phone: I can make calls and send texts (SMS). It has full phone functionality. Check for a SIM card slot if you're not sure about WIFI or 3G models. If you can insert a SIM card then surely you can use it to make cell calls.
I currently have a WiFi only 7+ tablet. Just to clarify, T-Mobile was offering the 7+ for $99.00 USD with a two year agreement. (ending 05-08-2012) Their version is 4G with a sim slot. All well and good, except they are only offering data plans with it - no voice.
I net chatted with a T-Mobile rep as well as called one up to double confirm, that the 7+ they are offering does not have phone capabilities. This leads me to believe this is a U.S. only issue as I have seen reviews on YouTube demonstrating the phone feature by tabbers outside the U.S.
As for VOIP, I'm currently using Skype, though I plan to check out Grove IP and Google voice. I was really close to going for this deal. The price was excellent, but without a dedicated phone capability, I couldn't justify it.
G.B. Says
And remember, talking dogs are liars.
With the T-Mobile version you will use the T-mobile sim card to connect to the internet only , and then use skype , GV , or any other VOIP app to use the tablet as a phone. Unfortunately to this T-MO tab you cannot flash a ROM that has built in phone capabilities ( like you can do to the old ATT or T-MO Galaxy Tab ) because the T-MO radio is different from the P6200 model.
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I just pulled the trigger on a refurbished SM-P905 (Verizon) tablet. I would like to have the option of sticking my phone's SIM card in it and use the tablet as my phone (with an ear piece, of course).
What would I need to do to the tablet in order to make that work? Root? Install additional apps? Would CM12 work?
Assume that I have a Verizon cell phone that I would pull the SIM from and put into the tablet when I needed to use it as such.
Thanks!
I have the international version of the note pro SM-P905
from my previous knowledge,
any android tablet can be used as a phone except that phone calls will be heard through the speaker unless you use an ear piece.
I already have a phone sim installed on my note pro and it is working fine out of the box
I use it the sim for data and I made a few phone calls without any problems
no need for root or anything else
I don't know about Verizon note pro model but it is suppose to be the same
Thanks! I was concerned that the tablet wouldn't have the necessary phone apps and background software that it would need right out of the box.
I have the P905V as well.
I haven't tried a phone sim on I cant say for sure on the phone calls themselves.
however I am using a T-mobile tablet sim with text messaging and the text messaging does not seem to work on this tablet.
Verizon and sprint use CDMA for voice, SMS and 3G data
When they moved to LTE (Which is a GSM technology) they basically just added a sim card slot for data on top of the existing CDMA hardware.
Some Verizon phones also have the Sim slot enabled for GSM calling for people that travel internationally.
unfortunately most tablets (and even a lot of phones) dont have that feature and only use it for LTE
I suspect that this is the case here.
there is chance it might make calls if activated under Verizon though you would need a dialer installed. (Perhaps someone with one activated with Verizon could chime in if they have tried it)
The best option I've found on an alternate carrier is to use your google voice number in the hangouts app to make VOIP calls.
it works great for that and you basically have calling coverage anywhere you have data.
Groove IP also works pretty good and doesnt use much data.
unfortunately VOIP is the only option I know of.
On a side note, as stated above the international version has the full phone features in GSM format, this is often the case with international versions of tablets.
Sadly the US only versions often have things stripped out by the carrier, sometimes out of necessity and sometimes to push people to use their service etc.
Thanks for the info! That's exactly what I was afraid of, that the Verizon version of the OS on this tablet wouldn't include the phone/texting software. So I'm wondering if the CM12 rom does..?
Unfortunately while the Verizon version is rootable on android 4.4 there are no custom roms for it currently.
Also note that they released the 5.1 update for the Verizon model but its not yet rootable.
I've kept mine on 4.4 for this reason but a lot of people have opted to give up root for the newer software.
I know this all sounds like bad news but this is really an amazing tablet, I actually use it exclusively and no longer use windows at home.
I also often use it for calls over VOIP.
but unfortunately if custom roms and voice calls are what you are looking for in a tablet the international version would have likely been the better choice.
The Verizon Version does have a few perks due to the snapdragon 800 processor, charging faster being the biggest.
Thanks! I just purchased mine and its supposed to get here tomorrow. I'm probably going to send it back. I don't want to be stuck on 4.4 just so I can have root, and I don't want to deal with not even having root on 5.1. Then add-on that you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon version, and it's a no-go.
Hi!
Hey any functionality lost by using the unlocked version on T-Mobile ?
Thanks
When speaking to Samsung about this, they told me all T-Mobile bands are supported including 5G on the unlocked versions. What you may lose is video calling (who cares) and possibly wifi calling. But in the past I've seen threads were talking to higher-level techs at T-Mobile can enable those features.
I noticed Samsung checkout page didn't ask if you need a SIM for the unlocked phone. In the past it would give you an option. So curious if you will need to go to the store for a SIM.
Thanks . Video calling is big with me . Rats
My Note 9 was unlocked from Samsung but video calling and Wi-Fi calling work fine. Not sure about this phone though.
Won't you just be able to flash the T-Mobile firmware via Odin if you get the unlocked? Then you get the best of both worlds. This is what I did with my Note10+. Got the Unlocked from Samsung then used Odin to get the official T-mobile firmware.
BigMosley said:
Won't you just be able to flash the T-Mobile firmware via Odin if you get the unlocked? Then you get the best of both worlds. This is what I did with my Note10+. Got the Unlocked from Samsung then used Odin to get the official T-mobile firmware.
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Same here
i had an unlocked note 10 + on tmo and had no issues with video calls or wifi calling. i got from the samsung site that the note 20 has an esim which i would guess is why you dont see any wording for a conventional sim...
marctronixx said:
i had an unlocked note 10 + on tmo and had no issues with video calls or wifi calling. i got from the samsung site that the note 20 has an esim which i would guess is why you dont see any wording for a conventional sim...
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I currently use an unlocked note 10+ on tmo that isn't flashed. The only limitation is that I cannot do tmo-to-tmo video calling. It may simply be a setting on my end but I never looked into it as there are so many options. Everything else works fine and I seem to get every update at the same time.
Dewda said:
I currently use an unlocked note 10+ on tmo that isn't flashed. The only limitation is that I cannot do tmo-to-tmo video calling. It may simply be a setting on my end but I never looked into it as there are so many options. Everything else works fine and I seem to get every update at the same time.
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To fix that issue you can flash TMobile rom onto the unlocked version.
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To fix that issue you can flash TMobile rom onto the unlocked version.
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Thanks. I haven't flashed a rom before but there's lots of info available. If I don't upgrade to the Note 20 then I will flash the TMobile rom onto the Note 10+. If I do upgrade I will eventually flash the Note 20.
TMO user with S20 Ultra here. Don't use video calling so I could not say. Wifi calling works.
Third party VVM apps do NOT work and TMO's downloadable visual voice mail app is garbage IMHO.
When I put my VZW sim in the same phone the Samsung VVM app works beautifully.
Unlocked S20 Ultra 512GB here.
"5G" works on TMO where there is coverage however the speed tests show LTE as connection type. Interestingly enough some of the speed tests actually show 5G. Not sure what's going on with that. Have reached over 200Mbps down on TMO "5G" a few times. Most of the time it's the same speed as LTE. Don't care, it works, hot spot works nice too.
If you were to (properly) flash TMO firmware (in theory) it SHOULD make your phone just like a TMO bought phone including the cheesy jingle when booting up. Never tried it, I like the slim as possible approach. Plus the ability to drop in a VZW sim and it just works IS a MUST for me.
knuschit said:
When speaking to Samsung about this, they told me all T-Mobile bands are supported including 5G on the unlocked versions. What you may lose is video calling (who cares) and possibly wifi calling. But in the past I've seen threads were talking to higher-level techs at T-Mobile can enable those features.
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You don't lose wifi calling or video calling using unlocked on TMO.
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bkeaver said:
You don't lose wifi calling or video calling using unlocked on TMO.
Sent from my SM-G986U1 using Tapatalk
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What if anything do we loose?
a1atif said:
What if anything do we loose?
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I've been using unlocked devices on TMO for the past few years and everything works. I've not found anything that don't..
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tmobile visual voicemail has always worked for me on my samsung purchased unlocked 10+, so i guess our expectations are different.
Can't wait to see if I run into any issues with my unlocked on Sprint/Tmo
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tmobile visual voicemail has always worked for me on my samsung purchased unlocked 10+, so i guess our expectations are different.
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Only if you use TMO's downloaded app which is utter $4!+ IMHO.
I hate it so much I just dial in to listen the old fashioned way. I screen calls anyhow so the ONLY time it rings I know who is calling so not really a big deal. If callers don't have the secret PIN they get hung up on! F robos!
What about roaming on T Mobile partner network? Will I get a network on my UNLOCKED Galaxy Note 20 Ultra if I am roaming on US Cellular or any TMobile partner Network?
Will my Unlocked Galaxy Note 20 Ultra support all 5G bands from TMobile? (Low, Mid and High ) Layer Cake so to say.
What about SA 5G (Stand Alone 5G) that TMobile just launched. Will the Unlocked Galaxy Note 20 Ultra support it?
Sprint frequencies
I'm mostly concerned about the Sprint frequencies T-Mobile is picking up.
Are there any differences (Hardware like LTE, 5G Band differences or software differences) between AT&T and US Unlocked versions?
Hardware should be no difference. Radio bands should be the same. Software is different. The unlocked comes without carrier bloatware.
That is correct. The software is the only difference. I had the Samsung Note 10+ unlocked on AT&T. I couldn't get WiFi call or HD voice. This time I went the Note 20 Ultra AT&T version. Not a big deal. I just remove the bloatware from the phone using ADB. You can find articles on how to do it.
Weird that I was told by VZW that I couldn't wifi call on the unlocked version. But I can.
I had the U1 version on ATT. Worked great. Some menus missing, such as ability to choose VOLTE butncall quality was great. Has to call ATT to change to a 5g plan for 5g.
By the unlocked version, are you referring to the SM-N986B/DS? I am researching as well and I am on the AT&T network.
Edit: my bad misread title.
I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
todd3835 said:
I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
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I spoke to AT&T for hours and they whitelisted my international Note20 Ultra IMEI. I still don't have Wi-Fi calling and they absolutely don't know why... I regret switching from T-Mobile to AT&T... but unfortunately have to stay with AT&T for 2 more years because of iPhone deals we got...
Guys, all you have to do is flash the U Home CSC for and you'll have all the features on ATT and still have U1 firmware on your U1 device. At least for me on this phone and two previous, the Samsung devices were already "whitelisted" with ATT
Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
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Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
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My guess is no .... But not sure
So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
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So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
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No. If you're on the AT&T version, stay there.
I can't believe AT&T would whitelist all Samsung Unlocked devices, that would really surprise me. You can buy AT&T locked Galaxy phone and unlock it with AT&T since you bought it outright, and then of course it would be whitelisted.
Still Less Features for Factory Unlocked Models?
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
haroldlundt said:
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
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They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
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Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
haroldlundt said:
Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
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Yea. If you provision volte and wifi on a actual att phone and sim swap they work for a while. Usually around 4 or 5 am. Then it shuts off and never works again. Till sim swap and reprovision
VoLTE on unlocked Samsung S20 and Note20 series phones is set to "on" by default, but unchangeable (greyed out). As of right now, there is no ability to select WiFi calling until Samsung decides to grace those of us with unlocked phones that ability.
haroldlundt said:
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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There is a long term method but it involves calling att, and getting your IMEI registered so you can get VOLTE and wifi calling. Ask customer service. I can't remember the name of the department you need to request. It takes a couple of weeks and then you suddenly get a weird sms (something like IMEI provisioned) and then it works. Did it on note 9.
I've been thinking of upgrading my S21 Ultra to the s22 ultra. I was disappointed when I saw that Grey color was exclusive for factory unlocked models. In the past my factory S10 would not support intra network (no app needed) video calling. No amount of flashing would enable that one feature. So I bought the Tmobile branded S21. Is this still the case with the S22? I like the Grey colorway by far but would settle for a white phone. But I want the integrated video calling.
Any help is appreciated.
Carrier video calling will only work with carrier branded phones so both you and the receiving ends would need to be on T-Mobile. There is no way to get around that if you plan to use video calling with non-Tmobile phones (ie ATT, Verizon,etc). The only way to get around that is just use third party app for video calling. Duo is probably what you want to use. Use google's dialer (instead of Samsung's own dialer) and when you initiate the video calling, it will launch Google Duo.