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http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-samsung-galaxy-s7-vs-galaxy-s6-who-takes-better-photos
After days of waiting, we finally have another detailed camera review. While the article does not go into pixel peeping depth, it gives a good idea of how the camera perform against its predecessor. It seems like the s7 handles contrasts and low light( of course) much better.
Hopefully will bring peace to people worried about S7 camera underperforming...
Interesting and thanks for the link. Seems to be very competent camera.
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Thanks for the link. I think I'm convinced the S7 is better in low light. The concern is whether it's taken a sacrifice in brighter conditions - would be good to see some daylight photos from people getting their phones this week
This really should quieten down the people claiming the S6 has a better camera, and that Samsung have taken a step backwards. The outdoor contrast and street at night pictures in particular were hilariously one-sided.
In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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One of us may need to calibrate our displays, because the S7 has a clear advantage to me. I notice a lot of the reds on the S6 seem to wash out and look pink (like the pic looking up the steps with the red box on the side).
I dunno, I think I'd rather go with the S6 and it's 4 megapixel advantage.
You need to read up on why that isn't necessarily an advantage when it comes to quality of image.
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You need to read up on why that isn't necessarily an advantage when it comes to quality of image.
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Don't worry, I did that many moons ago.
For what mobile phone cameras are used for, the difference between 16mpx and 12 mpx is nothing. That extra 4pmx has no practical advantage bar the aspect ratio. I'd sooner have an increase in quality and a reduction in size.
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In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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Obviously you didn't bother reading the author's notes. In almost all cases they noted that the S7 was producing more accurate colors, and the S6 was producing tones that were not true to what the scene actually looked like.
If your idea of a superior camera is one which produces overly saturated images at the expense of color accuracy (similar to the issue samsung's older AMOLED displays had), then stick with the S6.
For the rest of us, accuracy is the sign of a better camera. Saturation can easily be adjusted to taste in post (especially with the S7's raw support). It's much harder to fix incorrect colors after the fact going off of memory. The S6 also struggled in high-constrast scenes. There were several instances where certain parts of the image were blown out because the S6 couldn't keep up with the wide range of the scene.
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For what mobile phone cameras are used for, the difference between 16mpx and 12 mpx is nothing. That extra 4pmx has no practical advantage bar the aspect ratio. I'd sooner have an increase in quality and a reduction in size.
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I didn't see much of an increase in quality in the samples provided. I guess I'll see when my S7 comes in
Meh, S6 has more detail in daylight.
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I didn't see much of an increase in quality in the samples provided. I guess I'll see when my S7 comes in
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So when you look at photos 6 and 9 for example you don't see a quality difference. OK.
There seems to be a slight difference between the two. With the S7 just barely edging out the S6... The camera should not be the big reason to get the S7 (even though i am getting the S7)...
I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD_2udbnsLg and it looks like slow motion video is also better... I noticed on my S6 when i do slow motion, the scene become much darker, the S7 doesnt seem to have that issue...
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There seems to be a slight difference between the two. With the S7 just barely edging out the S6... The camera should not be the big reason to get the S7 (even though i am getting the S7)...
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This +1. My S7E should be here tomorrow also.
My personal opinion and this applies only to me so your mileage may vary - The S6 camera is beyond fantastic, I regularly have amateur photographer friends who ask me what camera I use because my images are excellent (I have an S6E). So, If even if the S7 camera was the *same* as the S6, the S7 is a winner, considering ALL the other improvements they made to the phone. I was worried they would take a step backwards with the slim camera module, and I wasn't really expecting any major camera improvements. But it does seem the S7 camera is slightly better than the S6, which in my mind is a bonus.
And keep in mind all this is before software updates. If you remember the early S6 days, there were 2 if not 3 software updates within the first few months that all had slight camera improvements. I remember there was an update even when I first powered on the phone from tmobile.
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This really should quieten down the people claiming the S6 has a better camera, and that Samsung have taken a step backwards. The outdoor contrast and street at night pictures in particular were hilariously one-sided.
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That's generally those that have the S6 either in contract and cannot yet upgrade and therefore find their own ways to bash it. Happens all the time with new flagships.
Some even pretend they are getting the S7 to try and validate their claim. Very sad in my opinion.
dimkit said:
In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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agree the "slightly better" come too much in this review... especially with this kind of px drop (16 => 12)
To be honest if the S7 camera is just as good as the S6 I'm golden. I actually don't take too many pictures right now.
Every single one of them looks a little better to me in varying degrees.
I am debating whether to upgrade from S5 to the S7. My main reason is that I want to have the best camera in an Android phone. I was searching a lot for camera comparison between the two but I cannot find any reviews. What do you guys think? Is the S7 camera better than S5? Can someone point me to a shootout between the two or side by side picture comparison?
I have folder on computer with pictures, and they are all aranged by mobile phone model ( sgs4,sgs5,lg g3, lgg4, etc etc... ) so i jumped there and took a look at them and one thing is for sure they both got great cameras, but if you're asking is it worth that extra cca 300$ I think not. My connection is very slow to do the comparision photos upload
The S7 is better than the S5 in EVERY aspect lol
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The S7 is better than the S5 in EVERY aspect lol
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I know that. This does not help. I will only upgrade to the S7 if and only if the camera is better. I read in some thread that S7 pictures have less detail than S6, etc. So this means even though the low light performance is better, if daylight pictures lack detail then it is a no go. I can potentially hold off until S8 comes out then.
I've just upgraded from the S5 > S7 so image quality is still fresh in my mind from the S5
IMO the S7 does take better photos, but not such a leap you can really tell, the S5 took stunning photos, really good camera and it took me a while, and a few different scenarios to see the S7 outperform it in terms of photo quality
Close-ups, the S7 is ahead quite noticeably, but for landscape shots, it's a close call
One thing I miss from the S5 is the 16:9 for max photo resolution, with the S7 it is back down to 4:3 for some reason, and for certain shots I've taken, you can see the 4MP loss hit
I took the S7 out to the beach, lots of light, and it took great shots, better than the S5, but I also took shots around the house, out the back etc, and the S5 took better shots
Would I say the S7 camera was a big upgrade from the S5 camera?
No
Would I say the phone itself is a big upgrade from the S5?
Yes
In certain scenarios, the S7 takes the better photo, in others the S5 does
HDR works a lot better on the S7 though, a lot clearer and detailed than the S5 for the same shot, but in terms of quality, they beat and lose to each other in different ways
If you were thinking of upgrading purely on the camera quality, I'd go to a store and take a few snaps with a demo model to see, although you really need to put the photos on a PC to see, phone screens are too small, and the S7 has a higher rez screen than the S5, so not really a fair way to compare photos
Do I regret moving to the S7 due to the camera quality vs the S5?
No
Camera quality is great, but it's not a massive upgrade like I was expecting especially considering it is two models above the S5, and after all the hype about it's camera kicking about online
Besides the actual size(resolution) the S7s sensor is far better.. It doesn't over expose as much as the S5, great deep darks and highlights that pop, no crappy post processing either the S5 always over sharpened everything and it's blues were a little to warm. The S7s dual pixel technology makes pro level focusing easy for anyone. The real gem here is the S7s pro mode.. Once you learn how to use it right you can get as close to a high end DSLR as you ever have been able to on a phone. As a photographer I can say IMHO this is the best camera in a phone period. Just goes to show size doesnt matter guys!
Detection and BruteSource,
Thank you both for the detailed explanation. This is exactly what I am looking for as feedback. I do not like the 4:3 resolution on the S7 indeed. I think I will still shoot in 16:9 which means at the lower megapixel setting of 9.1 M. In this case, I am pretty sure, the S7 would take a 4:3 at higher megapixel and then crop it to 16:9 -- 9.1M (4032*2268, 16:9). This may potentially degrade the quality as well.
If I can sum up what you are saying, it would be that S7 vs S5 image quality would depend on the scenery and one may be better than the other in Auto mode. HDR on S7 is better as it does not overexpose as much. The biggest difference in favor of the S7 is the Pro Mode and the fact that it can shoot RAW. Added benefit is the low-light performance.
So, if I were to upgrade to the S7 (camera) my justification would be:
1. Pro mode (unless there is a preset saving, proly wont use),
2. RAW (may use only on vacations)
3. low light - always useful
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Detection and BruteSource,
Thank you both for the detailed explanation. This is exactly what I am looking for as feedback. I do not like the 4:3 resolution on the S7 indeed. I think I will still shoot in 16:9 which means at the lower megapixel setting of 9.1 M. In this case, I am pretty sure, the S7 would take a 4:3 at higher megapixel and then crop it to 16:9 -- 9.1M (4032*2268, 16:9). This may potentially degrade the quality as well.
If I can sum up what you are saying, it would be that S7 vs S5 image quality would depend on the scenery and one may be better than the other in Auto mode. HDR on S7 is better as it does not overexpose as much. The biggest difference in favor of the S7 is the Pro Mode and the fact that it can shoot RAW. Added benefit is the low-light performance.
So, if I were to upgrade to the S7 (camera) my justification would be:
1. Pro mode (unless there is a preset saving, proly wont use),
2. RAW (may use only on vacations)
3. low light - always useful
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1. Pro mode (unless there is a preset saving, proly wont use),
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4. Better photos under certain circumstances, such as bright sunny day, large bright objects such as the beach
5. Better Closeup photos
6. Way faster focussing and camera opening times
It's a great camera don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with it, but it's not the huge jump I was expecting
You wouldn't be disappointed, but it didn't make me look at the S5 photos and laugh as I was led to believe before I bought it
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This is very helpful! Thank you, Detection. I think should go for it
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IMO the S7 does take better photos, but not such a leap you can really tell, the S5 took stunning photos, really good camera and it took me a while, and a few different scenarios to see the S7 outperform it in terms of photo quality
Would I say the S7 camera was a big upgrade from the S5 camera?
No
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I beg to differ. The difference is noticeable in both quality and camera performance (lag, low light, focusing, etc.). I am one of those who want quality photos and not just any photos, and for that reason, I used to drag around either Sony RX100 IV in my pocket when going out in the evening, or a tiny shoulder bag with an M43 system in it when going around town (and an EOS system for more serious landscape or nature when I don't mind the weight). In my most recent vacation to the US Virgin Islands, I brought a Panasonic GM-5 with expensive lenses, butI ended up leaving them at the house cause I was confident that I could live with the compromise with the S7. Would I have done that with the S5? No.
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I beg to differ. The difference is noticeable in both quality and camera performance (lag, low light, focusing, etc.). I am one of those who want quality photos and not just any photos, and for that reason, I used to drag around either Sony RX100 IV in my pocket when going out in the evening, or a tiny shoulder bag with an M43 system in it when going around town (and an EOS system for more serious landscape or nature when I don't mind the weight). In my most recent vacation to the US Virgin Islands, I brought a Panasonic GM-5 with expensive lenses, butI ended up leaving them at the house cause I was confident that I could live with the compromise with the S7. Would I have done that with the S5? No.
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Interesting to hear that. Were you also using the Pro mode or stick with Auto and HDR on pretty much all the time (that's what I use now on the S5).
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I beg to differ. The difference is noticeable in both quality and camera performance (lag, low light, focusing, etc.). I am one of those who want quality photos and not just any photos, and for that reason, I used to drag around either Sony RX100 IV in my pocket when going out in the evening, or a tiny shoulder bag with an M43 system in it when going around town (and an EOS system for more serious landscape or nature when I don't mind the weight). In my most recent vacation to the US Virgin Islands, I brought a Panasonic GM-5 with expensive lenses, butI ended up leaving them at the house cause I was confident that I could live with the compromise with the S7. Would I have done that with the S5? No.
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Well we'll have to agree to disagree, but from the last few days of talking about camera comparisons, it seems the S7 and the S5 have different model sensors depending on which model you get, so it's highly possible the disagreements about S5>S7 camera quality are down to that
The S5 I had (G900F International) took absolutely amazing photos, yes I can see improvements with the S7, but also I see drops in quality for some things too
For example, I have a few plants, flowers etc growing out the back, I compared a photo taken with the S5 to one I took with the S7, S5 the heads of a certain plant are crisp and clear and sharp, with the S7 they are soft and blurred almost, no detail at all
But then taking the S7 out to the beach resulted in better quality photos than the S5
For people to have such a huge difference in opinion, there has to be different hardware / processing in different S5 models, otherwise we'd all be on the same page
I too look for camera quality when I get a phone, I took a ridiculous amount of photos with the S5, I know that camera like the back of my hand, and comparing it to my S7, there's really not such a difference
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S5 is clearly sharper and more detailed
Detection, thank you for the samples! Would not this be a mute point if you are shooting RAW? In fact, has anyone tried the RAW ... I assume it is good
I kept Galaxy S5 as second phone but was in search of best latest camera. I got LG G5 and then sold it because camera was not great. Got Nexus 5X and camera was best but battery life was poor so sold nexus 5X and got Galaxy S7 yesterday . I assume S7 camera is not much improved as compare to s5 when we look at price which is 3 times more. It give you just quick focus. I am also getting 4 to 5 hour screen on time on S7 same as S5
If intensive gaming and design is not important than s5 is still great phone ..display, camera, removable battery, bigger screen but light weight, waterproof, external storage etc all option are there..
Here is my comparison of s5 and nexus 5X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/excellent-camera-t3230797/page48
Comparison of Photo samples of S5 and S7 in full resolution auto mode with HDR on. First photo is taken by s5 while second photo of same scene is taken by S7
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Detection, thank you for the samples! Would not this be a mute point if you are shooting RAW? In fact, has anyone tried the RAW ... I assume it is good
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I've just spent the day playing with RAW, and I have to say, I am blown away, now the camera shines and blows the S5 clean out of the water, no comparison at all, S7 is worlds ahead when you shoot in RAW
This is the quality photo I was expecting from the S7, and I think it's clear this is the mode the used to shoot the sample photos we all saw advertising the S7s camera before launch
Each photo is around 24MB when shot in RAW, vs around 4-6MB in JPEG
I still need to master lightroom, but it takes a RAW and JPEG simutaneously, and when comparing the two identical photos on a PC the JPEGs look terrible compared
I know which mode I`ll be shooting with from now on, only bummer is, it seems to force save location to the device instead of the MicroSD
This was shot standing right at the back of the yard below
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Would just like to add my opinion: that faster camera makes a huge difference. S5 camera takes 2 seconds to launch, another second to capture, and 2 more seconds to open the Gallery for some reason. On the S7 I'm limited by how fast my fingers are. Camera quality is about the same in bright daylight (sources mentioned Note 5 outdoes it in terms of detail captured, but those differences are miniscule and you are HIGHLY unlikely to notice unless they're side by side and zoomed in real close). Autofocus speed is also in a class of its own: it's not just miles ahead of the S5, it's miles ahead of any other phone or even camera I can think of. As far as I'm concerned, this is the fastest autofocus of any kind on the planet.
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I kept Galaxy S5 as second phone but was in search of best latest camera. I got LG G5 and then sold it because camera was not great. Got Nexus 5X and camera was best but battery life was poor so sold nexus 5X and got Galaxy S7 yesterday . I assume S7 camera is not much improved as compare to s5 when we look at price which is 3 times more. It give you just quick focus. I am also getting 4 to 5 hour screen on time on S7 same as S5
If intensive gaming and design is not important than s5 is still great phone ..display, camera, removable battery, bigger screen but light weight, waterproof, external storage etc all option are there..
Here is my comparison of s5 and nexus 5X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/excellent-camera-t3230797/page48
Comparison of Photo samples of S5 and S7 in full resolution auto mode with HDR on. First photo is taken by s5 while second photo of same scene is taken by S7
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Rajaasim, thanks for sharing. In my opinion, S5 is better than 5X easily.
As for your S5 vs S7 I cannot tell which is better; maybe a slight edge for the S7 for a brighter (better exposure). Now what is very different is the white balance. Clearly S5 looks cooler (bluish) and the S7 is much warmer (yellow/pink). This is especially noticeable in you first picture. I am not sure which is closer to the correct white balance. Anyone knowledgeable can give their opinion on that?
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I've just spent the day playing with RAW, and I have to say, I am blown away, now the camera shines and blows the S5 clean out of the water, no comparison at all, S7 is worlds ahead when you shoot in RAW
This is the quality photo I was expecting from the S7, and I think it's clear this is the mode the used to shoot the sample photos we all saw advertising the S7s camera before launch
Each photo is around 24MB when shot in RAW, vs around 4-6MB in JPEG
I still need to master lightroom, but it takes a RAW and JPEG simutaneously, and when comparing the two identical photos on a PC the JPEGs look terrible compared
I know which mode I`ll be shooting with from now on, only bummer is, it seems to force save location to the device instead of the MicroSD
This was shot standing right at the back of the yard below
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Wow, thank you so much for these! It is very clear that RAW beats the hell out of the jpeg shot - you can see it in the clouds, in the reflection in the window, in the bricks. You know also that there is Lightroom for mobile right - which is free. You can do some quick edits very easily.
So the way I see it on vacation and special trips one could use the RAW mode and for the rest of the time you can use JPEG. I would personally use the 9.1 M (16:9) reso.
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Wow, thank you so much for these! It is very clear that RAW beats the hell out of the jpeg shot - you can see it in the clouds, in the reflection in the window, in the bricks. You know also that there is Lightroom for mobile right - which is free. You can do some quick edits very easily.
So the way I see it on vacation and special trips one could use the RAW mode and for the rest of the time you can use JPEG. I would personally use the 9.1 M (16:9) reso.
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Yea thanks, I have lightroom and photoshop express installed on the phone, but it's much nicer and easier to use the PC version for big photos and getting the levels just right
That photo was taken from a good 20m away on the ground too, and the detail is great
You can see the JPEGs starting to blend and blur the texture, but the RAW stays sharp, zooming right in with RAW just results in pixelization not blur like JPEG
And yea definitely RAW is highly recommended for special shots like a vacation, JPEG for point and shoot quick snaps are fine, but for amazing shots, RAW all the way
And another thing, with RAW there is no need for HDR, even low light shots come out nice and bright, while the JPEG clone that it takes with RAW come out dark
EDIT - I'm not the worlds best with PS or LR, but you can see all the information is still in the RAW photo, you just need to know how to bring it out
EDIT: There are probably dozens of reviews/comparisons, but here are two just from today that are also harsh: Krystal Key and PocketNow. And UrAverageConsumer's wife's comments here and here "it does look a little washed out...it is a little soft...I'm not a fan of it...it's good enough..."
The consensus seems to be that the front camera is "soft" (aka it looks permanently out of focus or blurry), the rear cam consistently blows out highlights with or without HDR, and video is wobbly and distorted despite ois AND eis. To be clear (pun intended) this is not a problem with the sensors, but with Samsung's processing. If Google's Camera app didn't disable HDR+ on non-Nexus devices then the S8 it would very likely take the best pictures of any smartphone ever.
Here are my samples shot with my S8 with the better Sony sensors, and a Nexus 6P from 18 months ago. For maximum quality from the S8, HDR is enabled and beauty disabled. 6P is in auto mode. Be sure to right click on the side-by-side compilation images and open in a new tab to see them at full size, where the detail quality—rather than just the light/color quality—is most apparent.
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BONUS - 2MP tablet front cam with no HDR from 2015
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SUPER BONUS - Mystery camera! Can you guess?
My first impression of the camera coming from a S6, is that it sucks, yes it's better in low light, but if there is decent to good light it is much worse, all my pictures look muddy where the S6 taken at its side looks sharp. really ruins the phone for me!
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All in the interest of honesty (it's OK to be honest!)
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Good lord. GSMArena, AnandTech, and Notebookcheck do exhaustive subjective reviews. GSMArena's and Notebookcheck's camera evaluations are linked below. Spoiler alert: they don't agree with your objective testing of your sister's phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8-review-1603p9.php
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-SM-G955F-Smartphone-Review.213438.0.html
Samsung frontcams are always behind the competition. Not sure why. Agreed with OP's honest review.
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Good lord. GSMArena, AnandTech, and Notebookcheck do exhaustive subjective reviews. GSMArena's and Notebookcheck's camera evaluations are linked below. Spoiler alert: they don't agree with your objective testing of your sister's phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8-review-1603p9.php
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-SM-G955F-Smartphone-Review.213438.0.html
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I also included nearly 30 minutes of reviews of the camera by PocketNow and Krystal Key, but there are likely dozens of reviews by now showing the same thing.
The front cam looks like it's always out of focus—what reviewers universally are calling "soft". The rear cam consistently blows out the highlights even with HDR on. Video is wobbly and distorted despite having OIS AND EIS. In all cases, this is due to Samsung's processing because devices with inferior sensors from Google or Apple don't have these problems.
Something here in which i agree is that over-exposing. The Galaxy S8 loves doing this in certain situations where it shouldn't be doing but most of all is the auto-focus feature for me. Auto-Focus can be a mess when it wants too, simple macros where it should focus with ease it can't do that. I took my S6 and i found that in certain situations it was able to get a faster better macro with one tap compared to the S8. I felt that this one is a bit sloppy, and requires a lot of fiddling to get a good focus point. But don't get me wrong, whenever the phone is able to focus and does a good job in auto mode the photos look amazing. Overall my only complaint is the auto-focus on close-up shots and some over exposing. I really think these can be tweaked with a software update but honestly this phone should have had a completely new rear camera in the first place without being forced to wait for the new Note. I still believe this phone was a bit rushed, it looks stunning and awesome performance but man those software tweaks and scrolling bugs, and stutters and red screens could have been avoided. Oh yes.. let's not forget that Image Stabilization , wobbly videos and front face focus as mentioned above, i think these sometimes do a mess of a job. Real let down from the camera side of things for me.
I didn't do detailed comparison but for rear camera, which is the one i care the most, my S8+ seems similar and even slightly better than my Note 7.
Consumer Reports did more detailed comparison, they think the s8 has the best 12MP camera there is. And according this photo, in low light it's indeed a lot better than the s7.
https://youtu.be/3MmjHMWwtPU
So no, the s8 rear camera is NOT The Worst On A Flagship Phone In Years
My short time with the camera is the opposite. S8 front is marginally better than the 6p. Will do more testing.
No issues, amazing camera. Coming from a Pixel, pixel does look nicer but not by far.
When someone is doing pixel peeping, i am sure you can find flaws about every cameras out there. I look at overall quality and usability such as speed of launch and speed of taking the actual picture. After all phone pictures are all about capturing the moment.
Turn off one of the stabilizations. They dont both need to be on. Also, every samsung has let you adjust the exposure level..
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The pictures are a lot better than the pictures the HTC M8 took.
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My short time with the camera is the opposite. S8 front is marginally better than the 6p. Will do more testing.
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Any examples? I posted several, and I've not come across a single instance where the S8 is superior.
I just bought this phone for $800 and have the Nexus 6P sitting right next to me. Money isn't an issue. I don't make income from hyping the S8 or from my brand. I have no interest in suggesting the S8 camera is any better or worse than it is. Would be really interested to see you post actual selfies like I did to support your claim that, despite reviews and my 10 pictures posted, the S8 takes superior front cam pictures.
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My first impression of the camera coming from a S6, is that it sucks, yes it's better in low light, but if there is decent to good light it is much worse, all my pictures look muddy where the S6 taken at its side looks sharp. really ruins the phone for me!
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Whoa, no way the s6 takes better pictures. I just did my own comparison and ask the s6 photos are so dark and fuzzy
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Any examples? I posted several, and I've not come across a single instance where the S8 is superior.
I just bought this phone for $800 and have the Nexus 6P sitting right next to me. Money isn't an issue. I don't make income from hyping the S8 or from my brand. I have no interest in suggesting the S8 camera is any better or worse than it is. Would be really interested to see you post actual selfies like I did to support your claim that, despite reviews and my 10 pictures posted, the S8 takes superior front cam pictures.
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I never said anything about that. I just said in my use i feel its better. Here are 2 sample pics i did. I dont have any fancy setup so its all manual and i realize my pictures are not lined up but i got lazy. I feel the color in the s8 is way nicer and while it does get soft or blend in details like my scruff - i still think overall it does a nicer shot. Its not always a perfect shot. out of the 6 i took one came out blurry.
If my pictures aren't perfect enough - i really do not care. Take it for what its worth.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3F4QJb82X1ReV9mVUMzRzJTdmc
I too made a thread because I noticed how soft this front camera is. I'm super disappointed.
@.psd
I appreciate the work you did, but can you provide the original pics with EXIF data included?
thx
Here is a great review on the S8 camera. https://youtu.be/NAEVPxQ4MCw
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Looking at the pics it does look like the S8 shots are worse(maybe not) / different from other phones. In all of these reviews the one thing no one has mentioned is that smartphone cameras are largely software dependent. While the S8 is on software that has come right out of the box, 6p as used here has had a whole year's worth of updates some of which definitely did bring updates to the camera software. I still love the S8 and believe that future software updates can and will iron out the issues with the camera. (Just hoping Samsung doesn't drop the ball on the updates front).
Eddie Hicks said:
Here is a great review on the S8 camera. https://youtu.be/NAEVPxQ4MCw
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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That's the one I linked in the OP...??
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@.psd
I appreciate the work you did, but can you provide the original pics with EXIF data included?
thx
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No because image hosts strip the metadata for user protection (e.g. location data) and it would take too long to do it for each picture the following way (e.g. undelete them from google photos and screencap some of the metadata minus the location, then save each file, then upload it, then link it here):
Here's the data for 2 of them to prove they were shot on the S8:
#1 — #2
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy S9+'s camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
These 2 photos were taken in dark factory yesterday with my 9+
I'll post some lathe pictures tomorrow (S9+) getting delivered tonight.
Taken at nighttime, no flash S9+
Sorry wrong thread
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Some pictures taken at night; pretty impressed with the camera quality and clarity:
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Galaxo60 said:
Some pictures taken at night; pretty impressed with the camera quality and clarity:
:fingers-crossed:
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The one with the shed turned out really good. The sky looks awesome
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The one with the shed turned out really good. The sky looks awesome
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Yes, camera is awesome and I'm pretty happy with the device.
Low light on this phone is incredible. Ive never seen a phone like it when it comes to the dark. https://youtu.be/ZX_JY35oFCc
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Low light on this phone is incredible. Ive never seen a phone like it when it comes to the dark. https://youtu.be/ZX_JY35oFCc
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Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!
androidbadboy said:
Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!
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Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.
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Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.
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Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!
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Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!
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Thats just my personal opinion. Also I believe this will change once gcam gets ported to the S9. Its all subjective and really depends on the situation but Id much prefer the S9 camera over the pixel 2 in 95% of the situations because #1 I care more about video and #2 the daytime shots are very similar and almost not noticable however once you get in low light the S9 really flexes its muscle for sure. The dynamic range on the pixel 2 IN PICTURES during the day definately is slightly better HOWEVER when it comes to video the S9 can pull off some pretty impressive dynamic range if you have the right app or if you edit the footage in post. I dont like how contrasty samsungs video is but luckily you can pull out a ton of detail from the shadows in an editing program if you need to.
androidbadboy said:
Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!
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Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.
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Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!
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Thats just my personal opinion. Also I believe this will change once gcam gets ported to the S9. Its all subjective and really depends on the situation but Id much prefer the S9 camera over the pixel 2 in 95% of the situations because #1 I care more about video and #2 the daytime shots are very similar and almost not noticable however once you get in low light the S9 really flexes its muscle for sure. The dynamic range on the pixel 2 IN PICTURES during the day definately is slightly better HOWEVER when it comes to video the S9 can pull off some pretty impressive dynamic range if you have the right app or if you edit the footage in post. I dont like how contrasty samsungs video is but luckily you can pull out a ton of detail from the shadows in an editing program if you need to.
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After having the Pixel 2 XL and now the S9+, I prefer the camera on the S9+, because Pixel 2 XL processes the pics too much and they look unreal. They are just social network ready, but not natural at all, and it usually oversharps and put a lot of drama to the pictures. They look nice at first sight, but just try to zoom a little in details and you will notice the loss in detail and quality. In low light, Pixel is just noise and grain.
Anyway, I leave here a video I really liked and to say this guy made a great job comparing both cameras:
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After having the Pixel 2 XL and now the S9+, I prefer the camera on the S9+, because Pixel 2 XL processes the pics too much and they look unreal. They are just social network ready, but not natural at all, and it usually oversharps and put a lot of drama to the pictures. They look nice at first sight, but just try to zoom a little in details and you will notice the loss in detail and quality. In low light, Pixel is just noise and grain.
Anyway, I leave here a video I really liked and to say this guy made a great job comparing both cameras:
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Very helpful video for the undecided ones!
UHD/60 is amazing.
Compared to my Note 8, well there is no comparison.
I'm talking low light. I can take video in a dark passageway and play it back and see more than my eyes can AND it's not a snowy, grainy mess!
That's impressive indeed!
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UHD/60 is amazing.
Compared to my Note 8, well there is no comparison.
I'm talking low light. I can take video in a dark passageway and play it back and see more than my eyes can AND it's not a snowy, grainy mess!
That's impressive indeed!
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Seriously You can see MORE with S9+ than with your naked eyes? Do You use flashlight when looking at dark areas with S9+?
I'm SHOCKED. This is quite amazing and quite impossible.
Nope, when I look at video taken in a dark room I can make it more details than I can with my own eyes.
My eyes are good in the dark, all I need is a single 3 lumen night light to walk around in a 400 ft^2 room. Just as a security camera night (IR) mode can reveal details, it's far inferior to a brightly lit room. Our eyes work the same way. The image processing is amazing that it can reduce noise reasonably well and preserve color balance. Non of my other devices can do this.
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Nope, when I look at video taken in a dark room I can make it more details than I can with my own eyes.
My eyes are good in the dark, all I need is a single 3 lumen night light to walk around in a 400 ft^2 room. Just as a security camera night (IR) mode can reveal details, it's far inferior to a brightly lit room. Our eyes work the same way. The image processing is amazing that it can reduce noise reasonably well and preserve color balance. Non of my other devices can do this.
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So it's final then, S9+ broke all barriers for smartphone cameras. It's the best in the world. No doubt about it. Iphone X and Pixel 2 can not hold a candle to S9+
Congrats to Samsung!
Well let's put it this way. I have an iPhone X. I use it for work and Apple dev projects. I like it a lot. It's the best iPhone I've owned. And I preferred it over my Note 8 for video based on the fact that it can do UHD at 60fps. It still has issues with AF hunting though. I have not tested the 9+ to see how it fares in that department. In the dark, however, off come the kids gloves. Video is the best I've seen. I also use Filmic Pro and ProCam on the X to get the best out of the hardware. Tough to beat physics with f 1.5. The processing helps too. SEC does need to work on the glare problems, however. And given such a small lens aperture I suppose reflections are just impossible to avoid (inter element reflections). Take video of a bright light on the ceiling or at a concert with multiple points of bright light, you will see.
As for the Pixel phones, my last Google device was the Nexus 6. Loved the dev on that phone but its time has come and gone. Hated the aesthetics of the Pixel series. The N6 had a great camera but horrible software. I don't care for TW but SEC got it right on the camera software out of the box. Ever since the S6E+. I wish they would move back to a 16MP sensor though. Shooting RAW in pro mode yielded some incredible shots that are hard to get today still.
Hi,
Did you notice that S22 Ultra photos are a bit yellow in a low light situations (late evening or indoors). My wife's iPhone 12 Pro produces more natural colder images.
Couldn't find any setting. Editing white balance each time - not a solution.
I will post some examples later (iphone vs samsung). But I think you got the idea.
Here's an article I read this morning.
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra vs iPhone 13 Pro Max camera test: why one is my favorite
Only one goes the distance
www.techradar.com
Granted it is being compared to the iPhone 13 Max Pro.
Are you looking at them on the same display? Or are you comparing the look from her phone display to the look on your phone display? You would get a better comparison if you looked at them on a common display, such as a computer monitor.
To be fair though. Samsung phones' cameras have always generally produced warmer and more saturated photos than iPhones.
Open the camera then swipe the screen to the right to access the modes "Plus ". This menu will give you the possibility to choose all the modes available on your camera. Select the mode "BESS" to access and modify the settings.
There you can make adjustments for contrast and color saturation. Modify each of these settings directly using the slider to find the ideal setting for your shot. You can also edit the photos you have already taken via the "Gallery App" and change these settings directly from a recorded photo.
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Open the camera then swipe the screen to the right to access the modes "Plus ". This menu will give you the possibility to choose all the modes available on your camera. Select the mode "BESS" to access and modify the settings.
There you can make adjustments for contrast and color saturation. Modify each of these settings directly using the slider to find the ideal setting for your shot. You can also edit the photos you have already taken via the "Gallery App" and change these settings directly from a recorded photo.
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I don't know what phone app you are talking about. There is no "BESS" mode on the S22 Ultra camera app. Nor is that mode available in Expert RAW.
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I don't know what phone app you are talking about. There is no "BESS" mode on the S22 Ultra camera app. Nor is that mode available in Expert RAW.
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You can review the information here.
How to make photo settings on a Samsung Galaxy S22 ULTRA?
Find out in this guide how to make the photo settings on your Samsung Galaxy S22 ULTRA.
smartandroid.fr
varcor said:
You can review the information here.
How to make photo settings on a Samsung Galaxy S22 ULTRA?
Find out in this guide how to make the photo settings on your Samsung Galaxy S22 ULTRA.
smartandroid.fr
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I have the S22 Ultra, there is no BESS camera mode. How about you show us on your S22 Ultra?
You might want read this, since you don't own an S22 Ultra.
Samsung Galaxy S22 Camera Walkthrough: Different camera modes, Expert RAW, and more
Let's take a quick look at the Samsung Galaxy S22's stock camera app and the Expert RAW camera app to see all the options you get.
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Here's another issue with S22 Ultra camera. Looks like it's a hardware issue with initial builds:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1545636753213534208
Virgo_Guy said:
Here's another issue with S22 Ultra camera. Looks like it's a hardware issue with initial builds:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1545636753213534208
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Not the same problem. How about you actually post relevant information.
Images from Samsung S series and Note series phones tend to be a little too warm for some people.
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Not the same problem. How about you actually post relevant information.
Images from Samsung S series and Note series phones tend to be a little too warm for some people.
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How about you re-read the post? Yes it's not the same problem, hence mentioned as "another issue".
gernerttl said:
Here's an article I read this morning.
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra vs iPhone 13 Pro Max camera test: why one is my favorite
Only one goes the distance
www.techradar.com
Granted it is being compared to the iPhone 13 Max Pro.
Are you looking at them on the same display? Or are you comparing the look from her phone display to the look on your phone display? You would get a better comparison if you looked at them on a common display, such as a computer monitor.
To be fair though. Samsung phones' cameras have always generally produced warmer and more saturated photos than iPhones.
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This, first of all.
How are you (OP) comparing things? Screen by screen on two different devices? Obviously that's not good practice.
As @generttl says, view photos taken by both of the same subject on a "neutral" device (a third phone, or a computer, tv, whatever) and compare there first of all.
Just to rule out differences in screens and their respective settings I mean.
Dunno about the iPhones, but my S22U had "vivid" screen color mode set as default at delivery, and it really overheats and -saturates things IMO. The "natural" mode tones things down quite a bit toward the cooler side.
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Hi,
Did you notice that S22 Ultra photos are a bit yellow in a low light situations (late evening or indoors). My wife's iPhone 12 Pro produces more natural colder images.
Couldn't find any setting. Editing white balance each time - not a solution.
I will post some examples later (iphone vs samsung). But I think you got the idea.
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The photo reflects the Saturation Slider in Pro Mode. This won't totally eliminate unwanted tinting but will reduce the intensity.
Well, or get an IPhone instead?
Hi,
You're right. I was comparing photos on S22 Ultra screen vs. iPhone 12 Pro screen. And the deference was huge! Once I downloaded to PC - the difference is not that big.
This is a low light evening shot.
https://imgur.com/HVNdNDQ
You can still see that Samsung photo is a bit warmer and iPhone - a bit greener.
Samsung photo looks like it is seen with the naked eye.
Iphone photo - as it would look like in a daylight.
This is daylight shot.
https://imgur.com/A3PG6tP