Xiaomi BlackShark water cooling phone - Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S Questions & Answers

Can't find a spot to post this. Since Mix 2s is new, I suppose this is the right spot?
Anyway, here's the new phone
https://www.mi.com/blackshark/
It's about USD$480 for 8/128GB Snapdragon 845.
Comes with water cooling!
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It's USD$480 for the 6/64GB version/

Yesterday I went to the release conference in Beijing, China. It's said that it's designed for games, but there's some serious problems on GPU control.
GPU performance is seriously limited for having longer battery life and better CPU performance, which is because some really popular Chinese games demands more CPU performance rather than GPU performance.
Photo quality is terrible, comparing to other phones you can get today.
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
(sorry for my poor English)

Edward Liu said:
Yesterday I went to the release conference in Beijing, China. It's said that it's designed for games, but there's some serious problems on GPU control.
GPU performance is seriously limited for having longer battery life and better CPU performance, which is because some really popular Chinese games demands more CPU performance rather than GPU performance.
Photo quality is terrible, comparing to other phones you can get today.
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
(sorry for my poor English)
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Oh my, it wouldn't be very useful if the bootloader cannot be unlocked. I guess it's still a good try for Xiaomi given their track record of providing value for money hardware.
Thanks for the background and your English is fine :good:

Hi Guys ..
So, what do you advise buy it or not. Moreover, can someone tell if there will be a custom ROMs or not?!!
Thanks.

Mulham82 said:
Hi Guys ..
So, what do you advise buy it or not. Moreover, can someone tell if there will be a custom ROMs or not?!!
Thanks.
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I wouldn't buy it. It's ugly as hell, there are other comparable phones for nearly the same price. The bootloader is as far as I know not unlockable -> no custom Roms and if it is unlockable nearly noone outside China will buy that phone -> no developers for custom Roms

Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!

limestar said:
Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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哟,是吗?
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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limestar said:
Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?

Edward Liu said:
哟,是吗?
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?
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Don't use Chinese,please.GMS can be installed without root.

Edward Liu said:
哟,是吗?
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?
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Hi I got it working no problems. If you use the individual install files from the Mi Mix 2S MIUI forum everything works. Using the V2 or V3 google installer and calendar won't work.

Edward Liu said:
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
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I think it will be possible, because there's an OEM unlocking switch in the developer options, literally stating it allows the bootloader to be unlocked.
Also, when I boot by pressing power and both volume buttons, releasing only power when the S logo shows up, he goes to a black screen, from which he only boots when you keep the power button alone pressed for a good 5 seconds, similar to a dowload mode.
Could it be it has a download mode with black display?

You can't unlock the bootloader, because you don't know where to start. Nobody tried to unlock newer Xiaomis the unofficial way. It is way to complicated and the Black Shark is of no interest to people outside of china.
But, if there is anybody out there, i'm glad to help, as i do own a Black Shark myself.

Cooling system
limestar said:
Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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I'd like to know about the cooling system, does it really cool well in heavy gaming? Do you feel the difference?

Could someone, please, upload rom dump of "Black shark" ?

nule4 said:
Could someone, please, upload rom dump of "Black shark" ?
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I have one, if you tell me how to do that I will

Water cooling makes no difference at all: same throttling like my mix 2s. No rom dump possible as fastboot is not working properly. Device will not be detected.
Will sell it asap.

limestar said:
Hi I got it working no problems. If you use the individual install files from the Mi Mix 2S MIUI forum everything works. Using the V2 or V3 google installer and calendar won't work.
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@limestar
My Black Shark will be delivering tomorrow & I'm not sure regarding Google Services being pre-installed.
I found this on a Google Search,is this what you're recommending:
http://en.miui.com/thread-2408868-1-1.html
If you have something else,could you post the link to it?
Thank you.

ive mine for a couple of days now...i jump from huawei M10 pro to this BS and notice the different in term of performance obviously...for the temp BS performing well under load on pubg with highest setting compared to M10 pro with avg temp 70c on gamemode and keep prompt overheating each time played...BS are comfortable in hand coz it have thick bezel both side compare to the device have thin bezel all around make ur hand less fatigue on gaming...but the case feel cheap coz might easily break for some area...

Anyone has a way to unlock bootloader Black Shark yet?
I'm really sad because Xiaomi doesn't concern about Black Shark's users

baobeatmaker said:
Anyone has a way to unlock bootloader Black Shark yet?
I'm really sad because Xiaomi doesn't concern about Black Shark's users
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Xiaomi's Black Shark is aimed at gamers specifically, not developers and custom ROM enthusiasts, I don't think it's a case of they don't care I think it's just intended for gaming, nothing more...

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RC joining Note 3 community

Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.
Welcome to the monster beast of all devices
Someguyfromhell said:
Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.
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Yeah got mine last week, traded an S4 for it. loving it so far.
welcome to Note 3 community & I'm eager to see your great work ASAP. :silly:
Someguyfromhell said:
Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.
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Welcome mate and i hope you will enjoy this great (no pun intended) phone
I'm not really much of a developer due to lack of time, mainly focusing on helping fellow community members with guides and tutorials
Anyway, I have a firmware with XEO country code (Poland) at the moment. Attached a screenshot from Phone Info app.
According to sammobile.com, I should be able to receive somewhat newer firmware.
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Refreshed within the phone, also checked via Kies, both claim that I have latest firmware. No region lock. Any ideas about that?
If anyone wonders - No, it is not a clone, S Pen works while hovering as well and all other tests also pass.
Someguyfromhell said:
I'm not really much of a developer due to lack of time, mainly focusing on helping fellow community members with guides and tutorials
Anyway, I have a firmware with XEO country code (Poland) at the moment. Attached a screenshot from Phone Info app.
According to sammobile.com, I should be able to receive somewhat newer firmware.
Refreshed within the phone, also checked via Kies, both claim that I have latest firmware. No region lock. Any ideas about that?
If anyone wonders - No, it is not a clone, S Pen works while hovering as well and all other tests also pass.
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Yes, ND3 is the latest firmware for Poland atm if that is what you mean.
gee2012 said:
Yes, ND3 is the latest firmware for Poland atm if that is what you mean.
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If you look at attached picture you can clearly see its not the latest version on the phone.
That's what he was asking about.
HanZie82 said:
If you look at attached picture you can clearly see its not the latest version on the phone.
That's what he was asking about.
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That`s what it says on Sammobile and what is available for download atm
gee2012 said:
That`s what it says on Sammobile and what is available for download atm
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Do you even read what has been said or dont you understand it?
Because thats what your comment makes me think...
HanZie82 said:
Do you even read what has been said or dont you understand it?
Because thats what your comment makes me think...
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Oeps my bad, didn`t look at the attched screenshot
gee2012 said:
Oeps my bad, didn`t look at the attched screenshot
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Ah ok, you almost got me thinking i was seeing things. :laugh:
The problem is, I can't get it . Don't think I dare to download from sammobile and install it. Also, I would prefer keeping my data (so many apps)
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Android 7.0 Nougat for Nvidia Shield K1?

Anyone know, if Nvidia is going to update our tablet to 7.0?
EugenStanis said:
Anyone know, if Nvidia is going to update our tablet to 7.0?
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you better ask nvidia that asking here or wait better idea
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Yes, will be available tomorrow. They told me that it's uploading but the connection is slow.
I already have the link to rom ..i will only post the link when u transfer 300$ in to my account
Haha nvidia will update if its in their best interest which i highly doubt it is considering the latest update that they will no longer be bringing out another tablet
Many trolls here i see
Does @Trafalgar Square trolling?
Heroata said:
Does @Trafalgar Square trolling?
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Yes all of the people above were trolling. There is no information on if or when they will even do 7 for the shield tablet. The shield TV should get it but also no info...
Why would you want Nougat?
What's the point of updating software when the hardware remains the same?
Look how slow MM is..
Nobody knows, if Nvidia will give us Android N. So the question from the OP can't be answered.
But I think, that it'll come. Let's wait patiently.
Heroata said:
Does @Trafalgar Square trolling?
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No he's serious..
liam_davenport said:
No he's serious..
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But still on my system updates app, It wants to update to 4.1 (6.0.1), not (7)
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mirrin said:
Yes all of the people above were trolling. There is no information on if or when they will even do 7 for the shield tablet. The shield TV should get it but also no info...
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I just saw..
The bigger issue is that they are not making a tablet to replace this one and are only maybe making a new portable it passed FCC but that does not mean it will get made. I am hoping shield TV sales are doing well enough or we might instead see the shield line get dropped entirely and if that happens forget getting 7 or any other patches first party anything like that will be 3rd party so none of the cool 1st party things in these roms...
My issue is Nvidia is doing a dumb move they can't keep the tablets on the shelves. If they updated the tablet but kept the same price point they would still sell almost faster than they could make them...
Trafalgar Square said:
Nobody knows, if Nvidia will give us Android N. So the question from the OP can't be answered.
But I think, that it'll come. Let's wait patiently.
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You almost had me there for a sec. LOL
Niii4 said:
Why would you want Nougat?
What's the point of updating software when the hardware remains the same?
Look how slow MM is..
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I can think of 250 reasons...
I'm working on it, no gurantees though
my biggest issue is going to be unless nvidia does 7 then we wont be getting optimized drivers or any 1st party features
The shield is an interesting case because it's almost entirely pure Android, and the fact that we got 6.0 so quickly alongside the other Nexus devices makes it seem like, to me, that it's an unofficial equivalent to a Nexus 8 tablet since Google doesn't make a Nexus 8.
That could also be a coincidence seeing that the shield is nvidia's only Android device which might explain why they're so quickly able to build the latest versions of Android for this device when you see other devices either never getting official upgrades or are heavily delayed.
Also since the base hasn't changed too drastically it seems possible that it might just be very easy for them to port over the build features like console mode and whatnot between versions, whereas something like touch wiz is obviously much more complex.
Therefore it almost seems like it would be silly for nvidia to not update their device to 7.0, even with the NX around the corner, seeing as that's likely to become the next generation of shield tablet, per say. They might as well pop out this update in the mean time and leave it there. I mean all the Nexus devices get updated at the same time and basically have the same exact code anyways!
If it wasn't for the fact, as I've been hearing at least, that Google and nvidia are dropping support I'd say we'd be getting it for sure. However my hopes are high and I still think we probably will since it's truly such an optimized OS and would pull every last bit of performance left in this device. We'll see for sure in the coming weeks. Cheers
Niii4 said:
Why would you want Nougat?
What's the point of updating software when the hardware remains the same?
Look how slow MM is..
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New software can fix old bugs compatibility issues and make the software run faster. The same is true with an operating system.
Niii4 said:
Why would you want Nougat?
What's the point of updating software when the hardware remains the same?
Look how slow MM is..
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Why are you even on XDA?
For rooting? If so, why change the software if the hardware is the same?

Meizu X8 (SD710, USB-C, small notch)

Did not find a general Meizu forum on XDA so I decided to start a thread here.
I got Meizu X8 two days ago. Seems to be a great phone for the price. Paid only $202 on the Meizu Official Store on Aliexpress.
Highlights.
Snapdragon 710
4/64, 6/128
IPS 6.15" 1080x2200
IMX362 f.1/9 Phase detection with dual pixel
3210mAh
151.2mm*74.6mm*7.8mm
USB-C
First impression is very good. I have previously owned Meizu 15 Plus and Pro 6 Plus, both of these phones had a lot of lag and stutter, X8 is much smoother and overall faster. Battery life seems good too. Drain around 12% per hour when the screen is on. Around 3-4% over 8 hours at night. Respectable stats taking into consideration that the battery is only 3200mAh. However, the best thing about X8 is the design. It looks much better compared to the Xiaomi Redmi-series. Love the small bezels and tiny notch, also build quality is really solid thanks to the metal frame around the phone. The IPS-panel is also very good and better than other phones with a similair price. I would say the screen is actually better than Pocophone F1 which I owned one month ago. On the bad side, swipe gestures are not as good as on MIUI.
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I made a quick and dirty photo comparison with Redmi Note 5 today. Watch it here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157690553617423
I've just received this 3 days ago. Would agree with everything you have mentioned so far. Great phone for the price & like you, I had the Pro6 plus as well & this is a much better model. Battery does seem to last quite well considering it isn't that big, screen is nice & vibrant.
No real complaints so far apart from losing the ability to root the phone as with all models up until Flyme 7. I did try using the Meizu root tool but they haven't released/allowed it for the X8 yet.
mightymaki said:
I've just received this 3 days ago. Would agree with everything you have mentioned so far. Great phone for the price & like you, I had the Pro6 plus as well & this is a much better model. Battery does seem to last quite well considering it isn't that big, screen is nice & vibrant.
No real complaints so far apart from losing the ability to root the phone as with all models up until Flyme 7. I did try using the Meizu root tool but they haven't released/allowed it for the X8 yet.
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Sounds great!
I am using this gcam mod now:
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.4a_TlnNeun.apk
Just install and then apply these settings:
Night mode works!
Stock camera:
Night Sight mode on Gcam:
Stock camera:
NIght Sight on Gcam:
Battery life has been great so far:
flipp0 said:
Sounds great!
I am using this gcam mod now:
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.4a_TlnNeun.apk
Just install and then apply these settings:
Night mode works!
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Thanks alot for this! I was looking through the forum for the right Google camera APK but could only find the 16th version. Installed & working well.
May I ask what firmware/version you have? I was sent the Russian/Global version which means I can't change to either "A" or "G" so may be limited with future firmware upgrades or at least playing around with different versions like I used to with my Pro6 plus.
I've searched for anyway to change however there doesn't appear to be any way to do this currently.
mightymaki said:
Thanks alot for this! I was looking through the forum for the right Google camera APK but could only find the 16th version. Installed & working well.
May I ask what firmware/version you have? I was sent the Russian/Global version which means I can't change to either "A" or "G" so may be limited with future firmware upgrades or at least playing around with different versions like I used to with my Pro6 plus.
I've searched for anyway to change however there doesn't appear to be any way to do this currently.
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I am using the global firmware, version: 7.1.7.1G. I bought mine on the Meizu Store on Aliexpress.
When I got the phone a earlier version of G-firmware was installed. However, it was not possible to update it OTA so I downloaded 7.1.7.1G. from Meizus homesite and made a clean flash from the recovery.
I dont expect a lot of updates on the global firmware. Meizu have a really poor track record when it comes to updating g-firmware. However, this phone runs great as it is now so I am satisfied anyway.
flipp0 said:
I am using the global firmware, version: 7.1.7.1G. I bought mine on the Meizu Store on Aliexpress.
When I got the phone a earlier version of G-firmware was installed. However, it was not possible to update it OTA so I downloaded 7.1.7.1G. from Meizus homesite and made a clean flash from the recovery.
I dont expect a lot of updates on the global firmware. Meizu have a really poor track record when it comes to updating g-firmware. However, this phone runs great as it is now so I am satisfied anyway.
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Thanks & yes, I don't expect much in the way of global updates. I was more thinking that with the G firmware one has the option to change to the A version which gets regular updates. I like playing around with different firmwares but having the RU version it won't be possible unless someone finds a way.
mightymaki said:
Thanks & yes, I don't expect much in the way of global updates. I was more thinking that with the G firmware one has the option to change to the A version which gets regular updates. I like playing around with different firmwares but having the RU version it won't be possible unless someone finds a way.
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Sounds really odd that it is not possible to flash china firmware on your device. I have had Meizu phones with "vendor roms" but always flashed china firmware on these.
It is usually possible to flash china firmware on devices with global firmware (but not the other way around). I had Meizu 15 Plus with the chinese firmware, had to pay $15 to a guy who changed the device ID to global, it was then possible to flash the global firmware. Perhaps you can send him a message and ask about your problem: https://www.facebook.com/nguyenle.huu.5
I will probably stay on global firmware on my device. Android Auto and google contact sync does not work on chinese firmware.
flipp0 said:
Sounds really odd that it is not possible to flash china firmware on your device. I have had Meizu phones with "vendor roms" but always flashed china firmware on these.
It is usually possible to flash china firmware on devices with global firmware (but not the other way around). I had Meizu 15 Plus with the chinese firmware, had to pay $15 to a guy who changed the device ID to global, it was then possible to flash the global firmware. Perhaps you can send him a message and ask about your problem: https://www.facebook.com/nguyenle.huu.5
I will probably stay on global firmware on my device. Android Auto and google contact sync does not work on chinese firmware.
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Apparently with Flyme 7 they have removed that option. I was digging around at 4PDA & everyone there confirmed it wasn't possible if RU version was on the phone. Not sure why this would be as the only apparent differences I can see are specific Russian app's which are all linked to Yandex, perhaps there is some agreement between the two?
Thanks for the contact, I'll ask the question to see what's possible....
mightymaki said:
Apparently with Flyme 7 they have removed that option. I was digging around at 4PDA & everyone there confirmed it wasn't possible if RU version was on the phone. Not sure why this would be as the only apparent differences I can see are specific Russian app's which are all linked to Yandex, perhaps there is some agreement between the two?
Thanks for the contact, I'll ask the question to see what's possible....
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Yes, ask him. He might be able to help you.
Another option would be to sell the phone second hand and buy a new one with global or chinese firmware. It is dirt cheap now. Meizu Note 9 also seems like a good phone.
I tested both the stock camera and the gcam quite a lot yesterday. Night sight on gcam works great and is really fantastic . However, I do feel that the stock camera is as good as gcam in most other scenarios. That is a bit surprising since on the Xiaomi-phones I have owned, gcam is usally much better than the stock camera across the board.
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I tested both the stock camera and the gcam quite a lot yesterday. Night sight on gcam works great and is really fantastic . However, I do feel that the stock camera is as good as gcam in most other scenarios. That is a bit surprising since on the Xiaomi-phones I have owned, gcam is usally much better than the stock camera across the board.
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I did the same today as I was with the kids watching a school Easter parade! I found the same as you noted, both seem to work as well in daylight as did the video mode in both. Night definitely works better with Gcam.
Ehm...
I want to unlock this device.
Is it possible?
I have this mobile since May, so far it is going very well and I am waiting for Flyme 8 that will leave for December. Thanks for the apk of the gcam I tried several and they did not work.
Install the gcam but the image remains frozen when I want to take a picture
Iced_Guard said:
Ehm...
I want to unlock this device.
Is it possible?
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It was, now unlock tool and twrp is lost somewhere one of the chinese internet pages. It is a shame, though that phone born with treble but meizu is not updating android version, they dont even need to change any vendor, and also there is no developer support to do anything for treble. Looks like we are stuck with flyme and android 8.1 forever
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motocrazy said:
Install the gcam but the image remains frozen when I want to take a picture
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Clear gcam's data from setrings/apps. And be sure you have the right version. Also some gcams doesn't shot without hdr+ is open.
Install another version of gcam but I prefer to use the native camera app for now

GAPPS

If I were to get my hands on one, would I be able to put GAPPS on it?
Serious question... Can't live with a phone without GAPPS.
Any serious thoughts about this?
IMO xiaomi.eu will probably have a ROM for this phone and it will include everything you need.
xchatter said:
IMO xiaomi.eu will probably have a ROM for this phone and it will include everything you need.
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Thank you for responding. Nothing listed there yet (although, my account registration was considered spam, so I cannot see more than then the basics and cannot interact yet on that site). Is it generally the case that a new Xiaomi phone gets an EU rom even if it is not sold to their market? It is so tempting, to go the xiaomi route, I wish the oneplus 8Tpro was out right now, as I am in the market for a phone in the next two weeks ... not in October. Not sure if I could stomach having an outdated phone after a month or so... Generally, it is nice to have new tech be top shelf for at least a few months, right?
Hmmm - Food for thought.
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Thank you for responding. Nothing listed there yet (although, my account registration was considered spam, so I cannot see more than then the basics and cannot interact yet on that site). Is it generally the case that a new Xiaomi phone gets an EU rom even if it is not sold to their market? It is so tempting, to go the xiaomi route, I wish the oneplus 8Tpro was out right now, as I am in the market for a phone in the next two weeks ... not in October. Not sure if I could stomach having an outdated phone after a month or so... Generally, it is nice to have new tech be top shelf for at least a few months, right?
Hmmm - Food for thought.
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Just get whatever you like.
Phones won't stop coming out. Till the end of the year there will be new Huawei, new Pixel, new OnePlus, probably new Oppo.... and then the circle starts all over again.
s327374 said:
If I were to get my hands on one, would I be able to put GAPPS on it?
Serious question... Can't live with a phone without GAPPS.
Any serious thoughts about this?
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This is how I have done it on Mi 9 Transparent Edition. Don't see why it wont be the same.
https://itigic.com/install-play-store-on-xiaomi-phones-miui-10-11/
Yes, it seems that gaps is easily placed on the device. Source:
Thank you for the response.
And while it would be great to have the best camera... I probably need to buy the oneplus 8 pro. I've gone a long time without active Google assistant, closed bootloader, and (as a non Mandarin user) the annoyance of Chinese menus/ecosystem within an 'English' setting. Also, been without an active community of English using Android users for some time with this Huawei I'm using.
Want to grab a phone next week... And Xiaomi looks like it is using that impossibly annoying hungry marketing technique where the sell a very limited number of phones at a certain time each day. I got 'lucky' buying my Samsung 8 with that type of annoying system on the first day or two, but..... So annoying when you're a bit slow at Chinese and you're actually competing to buy a product. So... Actually... Competing to spend money seems odd too.
Ok. One plus is well over a thousand RMB cheaper where I am too. Lastly, Think I'll enjoy the software experience more and hopefully won't notice the camera too much. Hoping that the October release of 8t Pro will not be too much of a massive upgrade and have me annoyed either
To those who grab the Xiaomi ten Ultra. Enjoy and hope to read some reviews soon.
s327374 said:
Yes, it seems that gaps is easily placed on the device. Source:
Thank you for the response.
And while it would be great to have the best camera... I probably need to buy the oneplus 8 pro. I've gone a long time without active Google assistant, closed bootloader, and (as a non Mandarin user) the annoyance of Chinese menus/ecosystem within an 'English' setting. Also, been without an active community of English using Android users for some time with this Huawei I'm using.
Want to grab a phone next week... And Xiaomi looks like it is using that impossibly annoying hungry marketing technique where the sell a very limited number of phones at a certain time each day. I got 'lucky' buying my Samsung 8 with that type of annoying system on the first day or two, but..... So annoying when you're a bit slow at Chinese and you're actually competing to buy a product. So... Actually... Competing to spend money seems odd too.
Ok. One plus is well over a thousand RMB cheaper where I am too. Lastly, Think I'll enjoy the software experience more and hopefully won't notice the camera too much. Hoping that the October release of 8t Pro will not be too much of a massive upgrade and have me annoyed either
To those who grab the Xiaomi ten Ultra. Enjoy and hope to read some reviews soon.
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Just to give you a heads up -> Xiaomi has a very large and active English community. All phones are easily unlocked and the community have been doing a great job to provide debloated English roms no matter if you buy a Chinese or global variant.
OP 8 Pro is a great device too.
xchatter said:
Just to give you a heads up -> Xiaomi has a very large and active English community. All phones are easily unlocked and the community have been doing a great job to provide debloated English roms no matter if you buy a Chinese or global variant.
OP 8 Pro is a great device too.
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Thank you for your reply. I have always enjoyed tinkering with Xiaomi products and ROMS. I have also often assisted non-tech interested colleagues to put GAPPs on or re-Rom to global over the years I have lived in China. Although it did get a little challenging for a period of a year not too long ago. I actually really love what they do ... and funnily I can see about half a dozen Xiaomi smart devices in the room I am typing from at home right now. Man, I love their door lock!!!! Ha.
I was really going to wait until 21 August 10 am and try to pick one up, then if not, get the Oneplus... but decided against it. A few reasons. I just realised that even if I picked up the way more expensive Samsung Ultra, I am missing out on some Google aspects that I crave and have craved for many years (see my phone history in sig). Even the Global ROMs (no guarantee one will appear for this China-only variant) have trouble using Hey Google natively in my experience - (could be wrong on that one)
Even so, have gone with the Oneplus pro purchase just now and that phone will arrive tomorrow. Would have arrived tonight if I had ordered 10 minutes earlier. lol - nothing like Chinese delivery systems I suppose. Or at least compared to Aus.
Another couple of things did sway me. Xiaomi phones are great but they honestly do sometimes go overboard with their claims. I can't be sure about this device's battery life longevity. Especially considering their claims of 23 minutes for full charge look to be false ( I know still the quickest). I remember their camera claim for 108 Megapixel etc fell short of being a top-line camera despite the hype. Often seem to use an angle that disguises a hidden flaw. Anyway, This understanding, combined with my full google assistant want, means I will miss out on it. Maybe when my wife updates her phone and they are more readily available (seriously, trying to compete with a billion people to purchase an online product when you're hampered by language constraints suck), I can switch her to this 10 Ultra (she takes waaaay better photos than me anyway).
Until then, Look forward to reading more about people's 10 Ultra as time goes by. Seems this is my last post in this forum thread ofor the Ultra for now.
Cheers!
Graphene battery is surely the future.
You can install the Play Store from the built in Mi App Store, then install all the Google apps you want from there.
Worth it. Best phone
I came from note 20 ultra and let me tell you this is much more comfortable in hands. Playstore is just one download away from having everything. I'm alsomuch happier using this phone tbh and manage to get back 500usd.
I got the Ultra yesterday, i can see that most Google stuffs work and i can set them up, no issues with location.
BUT here's what's not working:
1. Google Backup and Restore, stuck at waiting for backup.
2. Google Location History, i saw the option yesterday in settings, but it was greyed out, somehow after a reboot, the option disappear. Can't turn it on no matter where i try it from.
I am having am SOT of 5h 10m with about 20% power left.
Anyone else got the Mi 10 Ultra, got Google Location History working?
Mine the option is missing in Settings, and it's disabled or permanently off in Google account / maps.
Permanently off:
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Just want to be sure it's not my ROM issue, lazy to reset and wipe cache to try again.
I've seen it talked about before on chinese roms and even Xiaomi devices,. I don't use it myself so unsure of a fix sorry but I did check my phone and it's exactly the same as yours looks
Sorry to hijack this thread. I just bought the mi 10 ultra. I installed playstore and all Google apps. But I realized that playstore is asking me to pay for apps I had previously purchased, even though I used the same account to log in. Anybody encountered this or know the solution?
Honestly start the unlock process and think about moving to xiaomi.eu
I didn't have that problem but a few Google things didn't work on stock. That's a really common issue though, I'd recommend googling it and trying what comes up, it's an extremely common issue with Google play services
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Anyone else got the Mi 10 Ultra, got Google Location History working?
Mine the option is missing in Settings, and it's disabled or permanently off in Google account / maps.
Permanently off:
Option missing:
Just want to be sure it's not my ROM issue, lazy to reset and wipe cache to try again.
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Works just fine on EU ROM, see screenshot attached from today.
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Works just fine on EU ROM, see screenshot attached from today.
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Yes of course it'll work on EU ROM, my problem is with the stock rom.
I do not want to risk SafetyNet and Widevine L1 by unlocking..
Why would you unlock the phone then if you are staying on the stock Chinese ROM? If you're not going to flash, then don't unlock.
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Yes of course it'll work on EU ROM, my problem is with the stock rom.
I do not want to risk SafetyNet and Widevine L1 by unlocking..
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Widevine is level L1 on the .EU rom - so you're fine there. As for SafetyNet: all banking apps, government authorization apps and such work just fine on the unlocked - but NOT rooted - .EU rom.
So I don't see the problem.

Question Is the phone EOL?

I can't find the X3 Pro anywhere in shops anymore.
Official store says "sold out"
The price is only going upwards...
So did the phone reach End of Life?
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I bought mine at Amazon Sale for 200 euros, was pretty neat deal.
And i really liked to recommend this phone to other people, but seems like that doesn't work anymore.
Anyone else has great recommendations on phones with decent SoC/CPU Power. good Camera AND a MicroSD slot to recommend to friends?
A52s
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I can't find the X3 Pro anywhere in shops anymore.
Official store says "sold out"
The price is only going upwards...
So did the phone reach End of Life?
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I bought mine at Amazon Sale for 200 euros, was pretty neat deal.
And i really liked to recommend this phone to other people, but seems like that doesn't work anymore.
Anyone else has great recommendations on phones with decent SoC/CPU Power. good Camera AND a MicroSD slot to recommend to friends?
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At Amazon Germany you can buy the phone...
Amazon.de : Poco x3 pro
Haldi4803 said:
I can't find the X3 Pro anywhere in shops anymore.
Official store says "sold out"
The price is only going upwards...
So did the phone reach End of Life?
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I bought mine at Amazon Sale for 200 euros, was pretty neat deal.
And i really liked to recommend this phone to other people, but seems like that doesn't work anymore.
Anyone else has great recommendations on phones with decent SoC/CPU Power. good Camera AND a MicroSD slot to recommend to friends?
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Checked on amazon.co.uk, ebay.co.uk Still on sale. Just price now £200-£250 for 128gb version. I paid last year £150.
Due to many brick issue would expect the x3 pro being removed to the market and will be replaced sonn by poco f4 gt
samsungics1200 said:
Due to many brick issue would expect the x3 pro being removed to the market and will be replaced sonn by poco f4 gt
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What are you talking about?
DJPRMF said:
What are you talking about?
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Ig the widespread hardbricking of the x3p
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Ig the widespread hardbricking of the x3p
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Again, what?
There is no reports of mass hardbrick of the X3 Pro.
And the initial question is also hard to understand. POCO X3 Pro is still avaiable in almost all the stores - just a quick google search shows that.
Eventualy the phone will "die" from updates by POCO, that is expected. But there is NO point to prove that those updates aren't happening...
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Again, what?
There is no reports of mass hardbrick of the X3 Pro.
And the initial question is also hard to understand. POCO X3 Pro is still avaiable in almost all the stores - just a quick google search shows that.
Eventualy the phone will "die" from updates by POCO, that is expected. But there is NO point to prove that those updates aren't happening...
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I think you're out of touch, just search up the brick issue. As for the EOL it's still available almost everywhere in Dubai.
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I think you're out of touch, just search up the brick issue. As for the EOL it's still available almost everywhere in Dubai.
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Issues with ROMs are not a general brick issue. There is no report from bricking as a major issue with X3 Pro.
The only ones are with custom roms - and most are people that do something wrong in the process...
If otherwise, show the sources: there is none.
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Due to many brick issue would expect the x3 pro being removed to the market and will be replaced sonn by poco f4 gt
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Yeah, and the source is... Indian version was crap and had issues, but that is well known and documented. So, stop spreading misinformation, please.
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Yeah, and the source is... Indian version was crap and had issues, but that is well known and documented. So, stop spreading misinformation, please.
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I love my X3 Pro
This is from the official x3p updates channel. I haven't personally faced any issues.
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This is from the official x3p updates channel. I haven't personally faced any issues.
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that's video driver issue, I can get shortly that screen by going to (Lineage 18.1 ROM) default camera, change mode to HFR (no HDR) then go to camera mode (camera icon) and that screen comes up.
So, no
Isn't Poco X3 issue.
I've been playing to change between modes and the screen stopped responding (normal image, no error), just press few seconds to reboot and here I am, writing a reply.
I use another camera app, not the default one.

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