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Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
FPS source dependent
mc_365 said:
Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
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Standard NTSC and PAL videos are recorded at 30fps (29.97 actually) and Film is recorded at 24fps. Human eye doesn't distinguish frame rates higher than 30. Sticks are not hardware limited to 30fps, but they are hardware limited to high bitrates at high resolution. 60fps at 320x240 is not an issue.
That would be an interesting experiment. Play a 1080p clip at 24fps, 30fps and 60fps and see if you can tell the difference? Let use know if you find a 24/30/60fps video clip so we can try it also. Also HDTV sets under 40 inches look the same in 720 and 1080 due to pixel density.
mc_365 said:
Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
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The difference between fps and hz can be confusing especially in different contexts. I'll see if I can explain the TV/movie context a little.
fps is "frames per second" and is the measure of quantity. Most movies aren't more than 30fps. As cesar33 said you'll get 30fps, 29.97fps or 24fps. However some newer movies are coming out (at least to cinemas) with higher frame rates.
hz is "hertz" and can be thought of as updates per second. The reason TVs do 60hz (or even 120hz) is either for 3D (needs two times 30fps, one for each eye) or for smoothing algorithms. The smoothing is to make fast motion less jumpy, so the TV creates new frames to make a 30fps movie look like 60fps.
Like cesar33 said, 30fps is the acceptable minimum for motion so there's not much reason to make these Android sticks twice as expensive (exaggeration maybe?) by pushing out 60fps.
PS. some film buffs hate anything higher than 24fps because it looks less "magical" in the cinema... true story, Google it
Is out there any application that allows you to shoot 120 fps video?
Thanks in advance!
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dsmpampis said:
Is out there any application that allows you to shoot 120 fps video?
Thanks in advance!
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as far as i know not. there is also no 60 fps camera yet. the snapdragon 800 should be able to capture in 60 fps i think but not in 120 fps
chimmychenga said:
as far as i know not. there is also no 60 fps camera yet. the snapdragon 800 should be able to capture in 60 fps i think but not in 120 fps
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The SD 800 is able to capture 120fps at 720p (Note 3). But there is no option in N5. Maybe with an application.... That's why I'm asking...
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What are you smoking?
The CPU isn't the one capturing the video, it's the camera module and if it's not capable then the CPU doesn't matter.
Surely the CPU needs to be able to process that much information as well but the camera module is the one that has to be capable of capturing it.
shotta35 said:
What are you smoking?
The CPU isn't the one capturing the video, it's the camera module and if it's not capable then the CPU doesn't matter.
Surely the CPU needs to be able to process that much information as well but the camera module is the one that has to be capable of capturing it.
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I don't smoking....
I think the camera is capable of shooting 120fps in lower resolution and the cpu capable of processing the image....
I think that the iPhone 5(and yes I mean 5 and not 5s)hasn't got a a better camera than the N5.
It was just questions...
Edit : I made a mistake, the iPhone 5 can capture a video with 60fps and not 120...
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See this video
I saw a video on youtube where S3 could record at 120fps by porting camera app from Note 2. So i believe it's not hardware based as S3 is a very old phone. If it can do it, sure N5 can do it easily
Hey is it true OPO doesn't support sound in 60 FPS or 120 FPS video mode?
i dont think any phone or camera does sound in slow motion.
60 FPS is no slow motion. Other flagships support sound in 60 FPS - SGS 5, Sony Xperia Z2, LG G3, ect.
OPO seems NOT which is huge minus, making camera useless.
60fps is slow motion. its 24 or 30 fps which is normal speed.
Since when recording [email protected] and playing it is slow motion? Have you seen videos @60FPS and understand purpose of recording in this speed over 30?
Jack is right
Guys, it seems you don't know the purpose of 60 FPS over 30 FPS. OK, no problem.
So I explain it to you - 60 FPS give you smooth movies - yes. 30 frames is too low (often) and 60 give you full smoothness.
OPO doesn't record sound in this mod which is ridicolus, so is useless.
Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Guys, it seems you don't know the purpose of 60 FPS over 30 FPS. OK, no problem.
So I explain it to you - 60 FPS give you smooth movies - yes. 30 frames is too low (often) and 60 give you full smoothness.
OPO doesn't record sound in this mod which is ridicolus, so is useless.
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dude. shut up. 60 fps is half speed slow motion. move on.
I adise you reading some articles about FPS and impact of movie smoothness, then talking.
Once again for YOU: OTHER flagships DOES SUPPORT sound in @60 FPS mode. So if THEY CAN, why OPO CAN'T it seems.
This is not about slow motion but typical recording.
Flagship killer? BUAHAHAHAH. End of story.
you dont even have the phone. and it sounds like you dont want it either. you dont have anything to add here. just go away.
Listen. You guys aren't understanding each other, you're both kind of right.
If you record at 30fps and play back at 30fps, that is normal, and standard.
If you record at 60fps and play back and 30fps that is HALF SPEED, a type of slow motion.
But if you record at 60fps and play back at 60fps, that is a newer type of smooth playing STANDARD SPEED playback. Less jitters, choppy etc.
Same goes for 120fps etc. It doesn't matter how many fps you record in, it matters how you fast you play it back.
So 60fps recording, played back at 60fps, should have audio.
Let's all just relax here
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It's been a while and there has been at least one update... Does anyone know if they do 1080*1920 @60FPS now on the OnePlus One?
I just ordered one a couple of days ago, and am hoping for the best when it comes to camera video updates... I plan on recording in 4K mostly, and downscaling to 1080P to see if that improves the sharpness. 60FPS in full HD might be a tempting alternative though.(Often down-scaling is better than taking an original shot at your target resolution.)
stevenswall said:
It's been a while and there has been at least one update... Does anyone know if they do 1080*1920 @60FPS now on the OnePlus One?
I just ordered one a couple of days ago, and am hoping for the best when it comes to camera video updates... I plan on recording in 4K mostly, and downscaling to 1080P to see if that improves the sharpness. 60FPS in full HD might be a tempting alternative though.(Often down-scaling is better than taking an original shot at your target resolution.)
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The 60FPS and 120FPS mode in all resolutions are only slow motion still.
I'm also searching for a possibility to record in 60fps.
I really really miss that. Vids look really choppy in 30fps, srsly.
60fps is NOT slow motion. 120fps is NOT slow motion. 10000000 fps is not slow motion.
Recording @ 60fps and playing back at 30fps produces a slowmotion movie, sound cannot be played back this way.
60fps played back @ 60fps produces a (more) fluid experience, without much blend and the brain filling in the missed frames.
30fps played @ 60fps produces a fastmotion movie.
The Jack of Clubs said:
you dont even have the phone. and it sounds like you dont want it either. you dont have anything to add here. just go away.
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Well I have a Oneplus One and I want 1080/720 @ 60FPS. The lack of this feature is my only disappointment with this phone, everything else is totally fantastic.
For people who don't understand why I want 60fps video then here is my explanation:
Recording at 30fps is okay but as soon as you have anything moving quickly, such as a close car passing from left to right or if you pan the camera, the moving objects become a blur, at 60fps fast motion remains clear. For those who have only ever had 30fps experience you won't understand how important this is, but for those who have had a 60fps experience, you cannot go back to seriously filming anything in 30fps.
It should be possible on the Oneplus one, but I get the feeling the phones firmware currently will not allow this option. I have tried various apps and even written my own specifying 720 and 1080 @ 60fps, but I only ever get sound when 30fps or 60fps no sound.
It's a shame as the hardware is quite capable!
how to slow mo video shoot more then 120fps (240,480, 960) if any patch or tricks
I think you can do 240 at 720p. There is no trick or patch for more. The cpu just doesn't support it.
TheDuckTeam said:
I think you can do 240 at 720p. There is no trick or patch for more. The cpu just doesn't support it.
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Built in camera supports 720p/1080p at 120 fps,
I don't think we can do 240 fps...
Is there a way? Am i missing something.
realme 3 pro support 240 FPS. Soc 710 but Soc 675 is newst microcode
Snapdragon 675 supports upto 480fps
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-675-mobile-platform
MI always cheating to customers.
Camera
Image Signal Processor: Qualcomm Spectra™ 250L image signal processor, 2x Image Signal Processor (ISP), 14-bit
Dual Camera, MFNR, ZSL, 30fps: Up to 16 MP
Single Camera, MFNR, ZSL, 30fps: Up to 25 MP
Single Camera, MFNR: Up to 48 MP
Single Camera: Up to 192 MP
Slow Motion Video Capture: 720p @ 240 FPS, 1080p @ 120 FPS
Video Capture Formats: HEVC
Camera Features: Accelerated Electronic Image Stabilization
Video Capture (30 FPS): 4K Ultra HD video capture
480fps
Both soc and sensor supports 720p 480fps still not even 240 fps slomo option.
Why.....
True 480fps slomo will be amazing.
Unlike rm3 pro's 240 fps interpolation to 960fps.
Our device is really capable.
Any custom roms getting atleast 240...????
mi always reduce futures
Any tweaks
Any possibility for a tweak.
Just like modifying media profiles or anything.
Any camera app which supports 480fps recording.
Just like open camera supports 120fps.
Eshwar123 said:
Built in camera supports 720p/1080p at 120 fps,
I don't think we can do 240 fps...
Is there a way? Am i missing something.
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We can't
We can
We have to wait until mi is kind enough to rollout an update with slomo.
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wait/ pray for an update with slomo.
Its going to happen.
But i think its related to the sales of poco f1 and k20.
nikhilZ2 said:
We have to wait until mi is kind enough to rollout an update with slomo.
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wait/ pray for an update with slomo.
Its going to happen.
But i think its related to the sales of poco f1 and k20.
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mi never response users
Meantime I checked true 480fps slomo from oneplus 6.
Its awesome.
Those who are in custom roms, how is the slomo.?
Is it the same 120fps or atleast 240fps ??
Please anyone reply..
Guess noone here cares about super slomo.
Even in roms thread nobody replies.
MiA3 with the same sony sensor and inferior sd665 can do 720p 240fps.
Anyone noticed ..?
Ok if anyone bright enough to do this, Mia3 with same camera sensor does 240fps.
Even though its android one, still camera app is Miui Camera.
Then i believe there is a scope for getting 240 fps by replacing our camera libraries with mia3.
And then using any camera app which supports 240fps (may be mia3 camera app)
Ig there is no ... Afaik
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi6-camera-mods-60fps-1080p-240fps-720-slowmotion.45108/
there is a 240fps slow motion enabler for mi6.
If any developer is kind enough then we cant get similer tweak.
Please note someone...
So Samsung decided to record Super Slow Motion at 480 fps then use software to slow it to 960. This is garbage! I know it allows for longer playback, but I'd rather the actual 960 fps. I was wondering if anyone was working on a way to revert this and record in actual super slow motion?
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