Hey is it true OPO doesn't support sound in 60 FPS or 120 FPS video mode?
i dont think any phone or camera does sound in slow motion.
60 FPS is no slow motion. Other flagships support sound in 60 FPS - SGS 5, Sony Xperia Z2, LG G3, ect.
OPO seems NOT which is huge minus, making camera useless.
60fps is slow motion. its 24 or 30 fps which is normal speed.
Since when recording [email protected] and playing it is slow motion? Have you seen videos @60FPS and understand purpose of recording in this speed over 30?
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Guys, it seems you don't know the purpose of 60 FPS over 30 FPS. OK, no problem.
So I explain it to you - 60 FPS give you smooth movies - yes. 30 frames is too low (often) and 60 give you full smoothness.
OPO doesn't record sound in this mod which is ridicolus, so is useless.
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Guys, it seems you don't know the purpose of 60 FPS over 30 FPS. OK, no problem.
So I explain it to you - 60 FPS give you smooth movies - yes. 30 frames is too low (often) and 60 give you full smoothness.
OPO doesn't record sound in this mod which is ridicolus, so is useless.
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dude. shut up. 60 fps is half speed slow motion. move on.
I adise you reading some articles about FPS and impact of movie smoothness, then talking.
Once again for YOU: OTHER flagships DOES SUPPORT sound in @60 FPS mode. So if THEY CAN, why OPO CAN'T it seems.
This is not about slow motion but typical recording.
Flagship killer? BUAHAHAHAH. End of story.
you dont even have the phone. and it sounds like you dont want it either. you dont have anything to add here. just go away.
Listen. You guys aren't understanding each other, you're both kind of right.
If you record at 30fps and play back at 30fps, that is normal, and standard.
If you record at 60fps and play back and 30fps that is HALF SPEED, a type of slow motion.
But if you record at 60fps and play back at 60fps, that is a newer type of smooth playing STANDARD SPEED playback. Less jitters, choppy etc.
Same goes for 120fps etc. It doesn't matter how many fps you record in, it matters how you fast you play it back.
So 60fps recording, played back at 60fps, should have audio.
Let's all just relax here
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It's been a while and there has been at least one update... Does anyone know if they do 1080*1920 @60FPS now on the OnePlus One?
I just ordered one a couple of days ago, and am hoping for the best when it comes to camera video updates... I plan on recording in 4K mostly, and downscaling to 1080P to see if that improves the sharpness. 60FPS in full HD might be a tempting alternative though.(Often down-scaling is better than taking an original shot at your target resolution.)
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It's been a while and there has been at least one update... Does anyone know if they do 1080*1920 @60FPS now on the OnePlus One?
I just ordered one a couple of days ago, and am hoping for the best when it comes to camera video updates... I plan on recording in 4K mostly, and downscaling to 1080P to see if that improves the sharpness. 60FPS in full HD might be a tempting alternative though.(Often down-scaling is better than taking an original shot at your target resolution.)
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The 60FPS and 120FPS mode in all resolutions are only slow motion still.
I'm also searching for a possibility to record in 60fps.
I really really miss that. Vids look really choppy in 30fps, srsly.
60fps is NOT slow motion. 120fps is NOT slow motion. 10000000 fps is not slow motion.
Recording @ 60fps and playing back at 30fps produces a slowmotion movie, sound cannot be played back this way.
60fps played back @ 60fps produces a (more) fluid experience, without much blend and the brain filling in the missed frames.
30fps played @ 60fps produces a fastmotion movie.
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you dont even have the phone. and it sounds like you dont want it either. you dont have anything to add here. just go away.
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Well I have a Oneplus One and I want 1080/720 @ 60FPS. The lack of this feature is my only disappointment with this phone, everything else is totally fantastic.
For people who don't understand why I want 60fps video then here is my explanation:
Recording at 30fps is okay but as soon as you have anything moving quickly, such as a close car passing from left to right or if you pan the camera, the moving objects become a blur, at 60fps fast motion remains clear. For those who have only ever had 30fps experience you won't understand how important this is, but for those who have had a 60fps experience, you cannot go back to seriously filming anything in 30fps.
It should be possible on the Oneplus one, but I get the feeling the phones firmware currently will not allow this option. I have tried various apps and even written my own specifying 720 and 1080 @ 60fps, but I only ever get sound when 30fps or 60fps no sound.
It's a shame as the hardware is quite capable!
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Im working on the camera, but the driver seems to be "limited" to 30FPS so if i set 60FPS on the apk will not work, due kernel override it.
I need a kernel developer to look deep into this, please can anyone send me a PM i think can be cool have working QHD or HD at 60 FPS for better experience.
See you!
Yes you would have a better experience because your eye´s can see 25.5 frames per second .....
thats why movies are so bad because they only have 25 frames per second .. they are so ugly to see
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Yes you would have a better experience because your eye´s can see 25.5 frames per second .....
thats why movies are so bad because they only have 25 frames per second .. they are so ugly to see
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such BS.. eyes can see a lot more then 25.5 frames a second..
But you will never notice a difference...
You can always play 60fps video with 25fps and have smooth slowmotion
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But you will never notice a difference...
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of course you see a difference.. did you try to play an egoshooter locked up to 25fps.. its complete ****.. even between 40fps and 60fps there is a huge difference
also movies in cinema wich are 25fps have frames in between to make it more smoothly so you actually see 25 different frames in a second but in reality you see 75 frames ( depending on an actions equence and stuff)
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of course you see a difference.. did you try to play an egoshooter locked up to 25fps.. its complete ****.. even between 40fps and 60fps there is a huge difference
also movies in cinema wich are 25fps have frames in between to make it more smoothly so you actually see 25 different frames in a second but in reality you see 75 frames ( depending on an actions equence and stuff)
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The fact is that the human eye perceives the typical cinema film motion as being fluid at about 18fps, because of its blurring.
But definetly you can apreciate diference bewten 30 and 60FPS ( this last more nitid cleear and smooth
Compare this, and then tell me if you see diference...
youtube reconverts at 30FPS so, you need to see the second one ( slowmo ) you se the second video is more fluid.
If you pause the video in movement, at 30FPS the image is blurry at 60FPS NOT....
So i think 60FPS is a good point to develop, maybe not for you but for me, and skaters, or other people doing high speed sports, this can be awesome.
Excuse my bad english.
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The fact is that the human eye perceives the typical cinema film motion as being fluid at about 18fps, because of its blurring.
But definetly you can apreciate diference bewten 30 and 60FPS ( this last more nitid cleear and smooth
Compare this, and then tell me if you see diference...
youtube reconverts at 30FPS so, you need to see the second one ( slowmo ) you se the second video is more fluid.
If you pause the video in movement, at 30FPS the image is blurry at 60FPS NOT....
So i think 60FPS is a good point to develop, maybe not for you but for me, and skaters, or other people doing high speed sports, this can be awesome.
Excuse my bad english.
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I can totally see the difference. this would be a great addition to your mod.
I can see it as well. I can only hope that one of the kernel developers can help out with this. Could be a great addition to our devices.
Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
FPS source dependent
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Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
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Standard NTSC and PAL videos are recorded at 30fps (29.97 actually) and Film is recorded at 24fps. Human eye doesn't distinguish frame rates higher than 30. Sticks are not hardware limited to 30fps, but they are hardware limited to high bitrates at high resolution. 60fps at 320x240 is not an issue.
That would be an interesting experiment. Play a 1080p clip at 24fps, 30fps and 60fps and see if you can tell the difference? Let use know if you find a 24/30/60fps video clip so we can try it also. Also HDTV sets under 40 inches look the same in 720 and 1080 due to pixel density.
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Why are all of these Sticks stuck at 30fps don't most HDTV's do 1080P 60fps?
I get confused a little with all the fps and all the Hz?
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The difference between fps and hz can be confusing especially in different contexts. I'll see if I can explain the TV/movie context a little.
fps is "frames per second" and is the measure of quantity. Most movies aren't more than 30fps. As cesar33 said you'll get 30fps, 29.97fps or 24fps. However some newer movies are coming out (at least to cinemas) with higher frame rates.
hz is "hertz" and can be thought of as updates per second. The reason TVs do 60hz (or even 120hz) is either for 3D (needs two times 30fps, one for each eye) or for smoothing algorithms. The smoothing is to make fast motion less jumpy, so the TV creates new frames to make a 30fps movie look like 60fps.
Like cesar33 said, 30fps is the acceptable minimum for motion so there's not much reason to make these Android sticks twice as expensive (exaggeration maybe?) by pushing out 60fps.
PS. some film buffs hate anything higher than 24fps because it looks less "magical" in the cinema... true story, Google it
Appears to be two tradeoffs in the camera...
1) cannot use video stabilization at the same time as tracking AF
2) you lose a lot of the advanced capabilities in 1080p 60fps.
Which of these are worth the loss in people's opinion?
You only lose digital stabilization* during 60 FPS video filming. The hardware OIS remains active.
There are multiple downsides to filming consistently in 60fps, low light suffers and you lose a couple other video features in order to gain smoother motion.
For day to day video filming, 1080p 30fps is the ideal with the least amount of compromises, of course if you're filming a fast moving subject, flip the switch to 60fps.
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Appears to be two tradeoffs in the camera...
1) cannot use video stabilization at the same time as tracking AF
2) you lose a lot of the advanced capabilities in 1080p 60fps.
Which of these are worth the loss in people's opinion?
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It's a phone, I don't record videos like a professional.
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Appears to be two tradeoffs in the camera...
1) cannot use video stabilization at the same time as tracking AF
2) you lose a lot of the advanced capabilities in 1080p 60fps.
Which of these are worth the loss in people's opinion?
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Neither. Video stabilization is usually pretty annoying. The 60fps loss is a little bummer but for most activities 60FPS does little but take up more space anyways.
Also there is a loss of detail per frame in 60FPS. The S6 does 17Mbps @30fps but 28Mbps @60fps which has 2 times the frames. So the individual frame data is capped at 14Mbps minus audio.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the OnePlus 5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
What do you guys say on 4K EIS? For me it's not that good as 1080p30FPS one also did they add EIS to 60FPS 1080p?
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What do you guys say on 4K EIS? For me it's not that good as 1080p30FPS one also did they add EIS to 60FPS 1080p?
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I think EIS for 60fps 1080p has already been there as I'm on 4.6.6 and I do have EIS everywhere apart from 4k
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I think EIS for 60fps 1080p has already been there as I'm on 4.6.6 and I do have EIS everywhere apart from 4k
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well thats possible
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What do you guys say on 4K EIS? For me it's not that good as 1080p30FPS one also did they add EIS to 60FPS 1080p?
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From what i can tell, there doesn't seem to be any EIS on 1080p 60 fps, but 1080p 30 fps and 4K has it
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From what i can tell, there doesn't seem to be any EIS on 1080p 60 fps, but 1080p 30 fps and 4K has it
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Maybe they accidentally removed it with the update lol
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From what i can tell, there doesn't seem to be any EIS on 1080p 60 fps, but 1080p 30 fps and 4K has it
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I think so, the 4k eis footage looks spectacular. 1080/60 has tons of jitters.
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Maybe they accidentally removed it with the update lol
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But I don't think 60 fps has ever had Image Stabilization. Atleast not on my device, because I remember testing out how good the image stabilization was on 1080p 60fps and thought to myself that it was absolute ****, only to find out later that it had amazing EIS on 1080p 30 fps
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But I don't think 60 fps has ever had Image Stabilization. Atleast not on my device, because I remember testing out how good the image stabilization was on 1080p 60fps and thought to myself that it was absolute ****, only to find out later that it had amazing EIS on 1080p 30 fps
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funny you say that I just updated to 4.6.7 and 1080p 60fps has far better EIS than any other mode like it did on previous versions of OOS
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funny you say that I just updated to 4.6.7 and 1080p 60fps has far better EIS than any other mode like it did on previous versions of OOS
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Hmm... I just have a hard time seeing why there wouldn't be any EIS on 1080p 60 fps for me then, because clearly it is a software-wise, and i am running the latest update. Could you maybe provide me 3 videos. One from 1080p 30 fps, 1080p 60 fps and 4k? Only if you want to of course.
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Hmm... I just have a hard time seeing why there wouldn't be any EIS on 1080p 60 fps for me then, because clearly it is a software-wise, and i am running the latest update. Could you maybe provide me 3 videos. One from 1080p 30 fps, 1080p 60 fps and 4k? Only if you want to of course.
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I was chatting **** lol, can confirm 60fps doesnt have eis
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I was chatting **** lol, can confirm 60fps doesnt have eis
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Okay good! Less worried then But you sure did sound convincing my friend!
I will provide it today. I'm curious personally too so I will upload it directly.
i tested it on metal concert, so 2 bugs with one shot. (4K EIS and audio recording)and im satisfied with it
Hey guys!!
This is a video that I recorded this afternoon between OP5 and OP3t.
It shows how wonderful OP5 EIS works after the lastest OTA 4.5.8
Just see and make your own conclusions.
Regards.
https://youtu.be/hO9L98L9Gxw
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i really love the 1080p 60fps mode. I have tried some video yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_xg_nvNac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Loqr2RVRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxyOyK8kqM
I cannot upload 4k video, so it's downscaled
Noise in video even in normal lighting, permanent eis I hate that, they sud add an option to enable or disable it,
60 fps 1080p that's OK, but if hardware support it than they sud try to increase it,
Slow no video in 720p hate it, wish if they enable it for 1080p too, and the more slower video option (higher fPS)
Also manual mode needed for video, at least for focus and exposure.
Besides the 5 minute recording length limitation and the increased file size, is there any reason not to use the 4k 60fps setting if I know the video will be under 5 minutes? (I can't last that long [just kidding])
For example is the stabilization worse? Would the quality be worse than native 1080p if it were to be downscaled?
I believe 4K 60fps uses only OIS and not EIS. 4K 30fps uses both.
I believe it to be true because in my own testing, 4K 30fps seems to be more stable, even though 4K 60fps looks more stable while recording (in the viewfinder).
Secondly, many people simply do not like the extra smooth effect 60fps provides, which is why they stick to 30.
And finally, I'm not too sure about downscaling as I've never done that myself. I prefer to keep my videos at their highest quality/resolution possible.