Apparently LG fixed its video stabilization algorithm - LG V10 General

I saw this tweet yesterday and have been finding a video recorded with the V10 but if this is true it is awesome. Especially considering a port over to the G4(almost identical in software and internals).
LG's entire demo video for the V10 was shot on the V10. Most impressive part is the stabilization: smooth as glass.
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What was wrong with it ?

One Twelve said:
What was wrong with it ?
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If you haven't a G4 let me inform you that it stabilization is robotic and causes wobbly videos driving me mad a times. My Z3 with DIS isn't this bad. Only downside to DIS is cropping but because Sony sensors have more MP it isn't too much of an issue. My G4 video recording is wobbly especially when panning.

Heard video stabilisation improved with the previous update. Did you not get it yet?
btw, that clip you mentioned isn't using panning, its like they are moving ahead. In fact panning AFAIK has no problems its the walking ahead bit that some have trouble with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5eekB9A2w
It's only a few seconds, but the V10's image does look a bit less wobbly than the iPhone image.

The reason its look less wobbly is there is a *NEW* steady shot setting in video on the v10. learnt this when i watched some videos that showed the camera ui. you have the option to have it on or off.

What are the chances of this coming to the G4?

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Shaky wobbly video

My video seems to have a weird shaking to it. Here is an example of a video I uploaded to YouTube. https://youtu.be/X8BMR9kxzYI
This issue is regularly alluded as the precarious camera disorder and influences every single home feature that are shot with hand-held camcorders and cell phones. The feature quality could be extraordinary but since of unsteady footage, they are hard to watch.
cogcaviz24 said:
My video seems to have a weird shaking to it. Here is an example of a video I uploaded to YouTube. https://youtu.be/X8BMR9kxzYI
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Hold the camera more still? Or it looks like you might be using YouTube's anti shake thing which also make its look horrible.
I was holding it steady and I didn't used YouTube's video stabilization. I've haven't seen this issue on videos from other devices I have owned.
cogcaviz24 said:
I was holding it steady and I didn't used YouTube's video stabilization. I've haven't seen this issue on videos from other devices I have owned.
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Sit it on a flat table and record the floor and see if its doing it.

Vide recording issues. How can we make Samsung aware?

I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
Snapdragon or Exynos?
brian85 said:
just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about
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A direct link would help, I'm not finding anything.
I confirm this too, exynos club. Slow focus in 1080 60fps
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I don't seem to be having any issues...I may be one of the lucky ones. S7e verizon
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Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
Don't see this issue on sd820
Well, i can confirm the slower focus on my G935F (maybe double the time as the normal camera focus), but no skipped frames.
rodnii said:
Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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It probably would take a hit as you're using a slower shutter speed to achieve slow motion.
rodnii said:
Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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Of course it does. The shutter speed allows half as much light to reach the sensor. This cannot be altered, except to post-process the video on a computer and apply some heavy noise reduction (with the corresponding drop in sharpness).
has anyone a video from the issue? (youtube maybe)
I just noticed stuttering in my slow motion recording..
Many people are starting to tell Samsung about this issue on Twitter.
i have stuttering/jittery in my videos in all modes , they r less in de low reso's but when going higher reso's its gets it alot. the easiest way to achieve the jitter/stutter is moving left/right & up/down with the handset, if your keeping the handset still there's no problem can anyone confirm this by trying ?
The flickering from my flourescent lighting is awful on the slowmo video. This is usually corrected by software so I was very surprised to see it. I'd forgive this if there weren't so many frame drops going on as well. The slowmo video on Snapdragon devices is basically broken. Unfortunately, Samsung has not made an official statement acknowledging the issue. It will require more people to report it.
brian85 said:
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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it seems like 1080p 60fps mode doesn't really make use of Dual Pixel phase detection.. it felts more like contrast detection to me.. there might be chance that Dual Pixel are not supported in 60fps mode.. keep our finger crossed.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
skyhan01 said:
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
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Keep dreaming!!! You should have thrown your cash at the other phones instead.
Guys, I keep seeing constant complains and whining about this phone and yet the only person to blame is your self. Read the god damn reviews !!!!!
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
yorikkk said:
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
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It has a great video recording quality for it's price. OIS and auto-focus is better than the more expensive flagship op3.
watch?v=Z8H5kOnryEo
OIS is clearly there, try recording while driving a motorcycle. There will be no, or at least minimal, glowy images as in non-OIS enabled devices. Color rendering is still the best, S7 and 6S is behind for this one. Lighting is natural, however you may prefer S7's "always daylight" choice (i.e., it will show bright light even in dark environment), but that's completely preference. I choose natural. Slow motion is great, even if only single [email protected] choice (slowed down 4x from 120fps) I found it very useful to record fast motion videos to see it later in detail.
this is the worst think in this device
it cant shoot a good video
get a lot off blurry result every time video
For me its 75/100.
Miui makes it complicated to chenge to 4k, fullhd slow-mo quickly. Timelapse feature is great. There were problems with rotation for camera but software update solved them. So it is not great but nice to see they are improving littlle by little.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel XL come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So far I'm highly impressed with the video quality. Comparing the 4k to Samsung for instance they both take really good quality videos. (and huge videos). But the fact that the Image Stabilization on this blows away the competition and it's SOFTWARE based is INSANE. One of the first things I did after I got the phone set up was to walk upstairs while filming 4k and then quickly moving back down them and the optical stabilization (although it gets slightly bumpy on the way down from how fast I was moving) it was the best I've ever seen on any phone.
Link to stairs video: https://goo.gl/photos/nzou3EhDnm96vbAe8
Video in low light is practically useless with so much noise
video comparison vs popular phones
The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
AstroDigital said:
The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
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I have not had any halo effect, seems like I am in the minority
This is a video of Metallica Concert in San Juan, PR, 10/26/16. The video is supposed to be 4k but only shows up at youtube as a 1080p, not sure why.
https://youtu.be/jinJAzYQsKA
why 6p video quality in low light is better than pixel?
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8345&idPhone2=7260&idPhone3=7588
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idCamera1=300333&idCamera2=300332&idCamera3=300288
I'm impressed
Video quality in 4K with anything other than direct sunlight is pretty disappointing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X0mzZsaJOM&feature=youtu.be
When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
Sorry to link to reddit, but I mainly post on reddit.
I also made a comparison of the videos in low light. Here is the thread if you guys are interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...eo_quality_is/
I just feel like the more information out there on this issue the better.
So far in test videos the mic sounds really muffled.
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jeremytodd1 said:
When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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What were the settings on both cameras for each video?
Took a video at night low light conditions
Looks like a white bug on the video .
But it's just noise from the camera not a bug.
Tried again Dave enjoy bug thinking about getting unit replaced.
Has anyone else noticed this effect?
It bounces stuff on screen when I'm recording.
My wife's low light video (S8 Plus) and daughters 7 Plus) crap on my Pixel XL.
Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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I'm wondering the same thing.
I came from a Nexus 6P and the video on the latter was just brilliant!!! Specifically to low light video, it was crystal clear!!! I do a lot of metal shows records and this is very big for me...
The minute I got the XL, tried a low light video record, wow, what a disappointment!!! The video in low light and even in mid light, has a sort of smudge, like grey halo or if lens are not clean up and adding to that there's a lot of noise in the video. I did not record anything from concerts, but I'm very apprehensive... I did not expected this... not after having a 6P and knowing that this phone is one year more recent than the 6P.
jeremytodd1 said:
When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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I just saw this and this is the exact problem that I experience when recording in low light!!!
I also learned on google products forums, that using a 3rd party app to record video, using a different ratio/resolution can help a lot!!!
For instance, with Open Camera, if recording a video in 1440x1080 resolution (it stays at a 4:3 ratio, the same aspect when taking a photo at 12.3 MPixel) then the recording is so much better!!! The bad of Google Camera is that it's not possible to change in between many video recording resolutions. Also, in Google Camera, 4K video recording is a little better than 1080p, because it doesn't have the grey/smudge halo.
If only knew this and my 6P didn't had the battery shutoff problem, I wouldn't never get a XL !!!!
The video recording is pretty good, I usually record at 720p60 and even though it's not the sharpest video I've ever seen, it's decent.
Though at 4K it looks great, but I don't see a big improvement from the Nexus 5X which I come from.

Mate 9 camera quirks

Hi gang,
Took the beast out for some shooting today.
What I love:
The camera software. All the settings, pro-mode, effects and stuff are really nice.
Camera is very fast. Very unlike some reviews claiming this is the slowest camera out there.
What I don't like:
Pic sharpness. Most pics come out with some water paint effect. Backgrounds, distance shots all come out washed. Macro shots are sort of OK but zooming in, washed out to some extend.
So I played around with various settings, differed sizes, all the same free post-processing effects.
I compared with similar shots I look last week with the old LG G4. Well, they are 200% better. Lets hope this is a processing issue that will be fixed with the next update.
What are your experiences?
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blackspp said:
Hi gang,
Took the beast out for some shooting today.
What I love:
The camera software. All the settings, pro-mode, effects and stuff are really nice.
Camera is very fast. Very unlike some reviews claiming this is the slowest camera out there.
What I don't like:
Pic sharpness. Most pics come out with some water paint effect. Backgrounds, distance shots all come out washed. Macro shots are sort of OK but zooming in, washed out to some extend.
So I played around with various settings, differed sizes, all the same free post-processing effects.
I compared with similar shots I look last week with the old LG G4. Well, they are 200% better. Lets hope this is a processing issue that will be fixed with the next update.
What are your experiences?
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Don`t forget we are running pre-release software, an update to smooth things up will come soon. Besides that i don`t recognise your issues on my device so far.
I am on B110. Is this a pre-release software?
I have a major complain regarding camera in video. I think is related to the stabilization. Almost all my video in FHD looks like waves. The image is very shaky. This is my second device as the first one was replaced. Anyone else observed this?
I really hope can be solved in an update.
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Don`t forget we are running pre-release software, an update to smooth things up will come soon. Besides that i don`t recognise your issues on my device so far.
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It's not super bad, some shots are OK but comparing apples with apples, the M9 is not on par with other recent top brand products.
cristy78 said:
I am on B110. Is this a pre-release software?
I have a major complain regarding camera in video. I think is related to the stabilization. Almost all my video in FHD looks like waves. The image is very shaky. This is my second device as the first one was replaced. Anyone else observed this?
I really hope can be solved in an update.
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Just tested it to see if it happens here too. Indeed when filming the image stutters on the screen (well, it's night here so not ideal conditions) but when playing it it looks nice, no shakes at all. That was at 1080p, 60fps. At 1080p, 30fps it looks smooth on screen and also when playing it.
Anyone noticed that the hdr mode is always on in bright light?
You will get the same picture with or without hdr, and that's something not good at all.
Is there a setting that turn hdr off other than using pro mode?
Just upgraded today to b126 and looks promising just checked it's 6x zoom and it is great
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In a nutshell
ROIDjoy said:
Just upgraded today to b126 and looks promising just checked it's 6x zoom and it is great
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So, i have had mate 9 for 2 weeks now, not impressed, when i compare it to the galaxy s7 edge, it cannot compete, the galaxy s7 edge wins hands down...., also, the galaxy s8 looks to be worth waiting for, march/april release will see a great phone after their note phones needed washing out with water,lol.
Also, i wanted to ask you, i have the MHA-L00 china version and my Hi voice app only works in chinese, as does the music app, can you post and tell me if your international MHA-L29 has hi voice ((assistant app) and music app in english, if it does..., could i ask that you post the apk install files for these apps in english. As far as i am aware, Hi voice app is embedded into the system so may not be possible.
If possible, i wanted instructions to flash the international rom onto the chinese phone?
blackspp said:
Hi gang,
Took the beast out for some shooting today.
What I love:
The camera software. All the settings, pro-mode, effects and stuff are really nice.
Camera is very fast. Very unlike some reviews claiming this is the slowest camera out there.
What I don't like:
Pic sharpness. Most pics come out with some water paint effect. Backgrounds, distance shots all come out washed. Macro shots are sort of OK but zooming in, washed out to some extend.
So I played around with various settings, differed sizes, all the same free post-processing effects.
I compared with similar shots I look last week with the old LG G4. Well, they are 200% better. Lets hope this is a processing issue that will be fixed with the next update.
What are your experiences?
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Having issues with the camera taking multiple pictures when only one is wanted. Just updated firmware to c567b183
blackspp said:
Hi gang,
What I don't like:
Pic sharpness. Most pics come out with some water paint effect. Backgrounds, distance shots all come out washed. Macro shots are sort of OK but zooming in, washed out to some extend.
So I played around with various settings, differed sizes, all the same free post-processing effects.
I compared with similar shots I look last week with the old LG G4. Well, they are 200% better. Lets hope this is a processing issue that will be fixed with the next update.
What are your experiences?
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Well, I couldn't agree more still having an old good lg g3 by the hand for comparisons makes me angry and sad about mate9's picture quality... seriously thinking about selling the-brand-new-two-months-old phone and returning to LG RAW mode looks like the only hope, combined with snapseed it gives somehow sharper and nicer images.... my guess is that default JPG postprocessing seriously sucks hopefully huawei will fix it in some future updates...
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Well, I couldn't agree more still having an old good lg g3 by the hand for comparisons makes me angry and sad about mate9's picture quality... seriously thinking about selling the-brand-new-two-months-old phone and returning to LG RAW mode looks like the only hope, combined with snapseed it gives somehow sharper and nicer images.... my guess is that default JPG postprocessing seriously sucks hopefully huawei will fix it in some future updates...
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Poat up some comparison photos please.
And what, specifically, is bothering you about the Mate 9 photos ?
mcekic said:
Well, I couldn't agree more still having an old good lg g3 by the hand for comparisons makes me angry and sad about mate9's picture quality... seriously thinking about selling the-brand-new-two-months-old phone and returning to LG RAW mode looks like the only hope, combined with snapseed it gives somehow sharper and nicer images.... my guess is that default JPG postprocessing seriously sucks hopefully huawei will fix it in some future updates...
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I think you're kidding right? There is no way a G3 will come close.
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Well, the first pic is from the G3, full picture quality, automode, no tweaking
Second pic is from Mate 9 full picture quality, automode, no tweaking.
The V10.... Is resting in peace . Will be getting a MoBo soon from aliexpress and reviving it though.

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