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S4 worth it or not?

So S4 does have many features and is very much similar to the S3
So i just made a review on it's features, you should watch it before buying it:

udimars30 said:
So S4 does have many features and is very much similar to the S3
So i just made a review on it's features, you should watch it before buying it:
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Well the new features that the S4 is bringing will be coming in a software update to the S3, so if you already have the S3 it isn't really worth the upgrade.

It's the best phone you will be able to get... in the world. What do you mean is it worth it lol. But yeah if you have the s3, you might not need to upgrade. As I also have the Note 2, im waiting till the Note 4 comes out.

did he really just point out that the GS4 is just a stretched GS3... -_-
As a GSN2 user, the GS4 is a joke, I'll just wait for these random software upgrades comes to me.

boodies said:
It's the best phone you will be able to get... in the world. What do you mean is it worth it lol. But yeah if you have the s3, you might not need to upgrade. As I also have the Note 2, im waiting till the Note 4 comes out.
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Best software in the world. RUMOR has it that the nexus 5 will have gesture control on back of the phone equipped with Qualcomm 800 chipset with 16meg camera that captures 4k....we will see though...2 months away...and key lime pie
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udimars30 said:
So S4 does have many features and is very much similar to the S3
So i just made a review on it's features, you should watch it before buying it:
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Features one actually uses are the only features worth upgrading phones for. My wife still uses and loves the SGS 2. She has not want for the S3 or Note.
I don't need a 13MP camera. 5 is more than enough. 8 cores? I don't use what I have to it's maximum, except I belive battery life However, I have never used my extra battery on the Note 2 so battery life is plenty as I charge every night whether or not the phone is at 30% or 70%. Gimmicky features don't appeal to me.
Plastic does. Plastic = lighter and with larger and larger screens that is meaningful for me. I would love to see a Note 3 with a 6" screen and not use the Nexus.
The S3 for Note users is likely not worth the upgrade. For S3 users it very well may be. There are some nice additions as well but the N 3 will have them and more gimmicks in a few months.

If iPhone (i call it f*Phone) is being famous just adding 1or 2 new features every time ..and it considered worth upgrade..then why not Galaxy??? While it has every hardware and software is upgraded....
And why you people only comparing it with galaxy s3...whileits independently most advanced device till date with every possible featured
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ipsuvedi said:
If iPhone (i call it f*Phone) is being famous just adding 1or 2 new features every time ..and it considered worth upgrade..then why not Galaxy??? While it has every hardware and software is upgraded....
And why you people only comparing it with galaxy s3...whileits independently most advanced device till date with every possible featured
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In my case I have been using samsung since captivate and I have no intention of switching brands or even comparing brands. As long as rooting is easy, SD Cards can be used, and batteries are replaceable Samsung gets my money.
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Thinking of replacing my note 2 with another phone

I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
The reason i bought such a huge phone was for the s pen. It helped me in college for taking notes, but then ive bought an ipad which can work for the same purpose, except without the s pen.
Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones

Keep it or you will regret it.
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I hope when you do replace the Note 2 for now, you will have no regrets.
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@rbiter said:
Keep it or you will regret it.
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Posted the same thing. LOL

Wait
in your case i'll wait for note 3, i just love my note, i love my battery, love the screen size, or you can buy a nexus 4 youll have fast updates and thinks like that :fingers-crossed: Good luck

alundra212 said:
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones
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If the size of the note 2 is too much, I wouldn't got for the xperia z. its a bit blocky.
I wouldn't the s4 either. Go for the Oppo Find 5, looks to have decent developer support as well

alundra212 said:
I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
The reason i bought such a huge phone was for the s pen. It helped me in college for taking notes, but then ive bought an ipad which can work for the same purpose, except without the s pen.
Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones
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Why dont you ask in their respective forums about those devices?
And if you don't like it anymore, then sell it and move on!
I am new note 2 owner coming from a S3 and before that an iPhone 4s.
This note 2 is the best device I have ever had.
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alundra212 said:
I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
...Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z...
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hehe.. how small s4 it actually have?
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I wouldn't really recommend any of the devices (I've got my hands on S4, Z and One, FYI) over the Note II. But if the size is bothering you that much, go for S4. It's got almost no bezel, and is nearly the same size as S3. Z is probably my least favorite device of all 3, and it's really a tie between One and S4.
But other than that, many users here have switched back to N2, for the record. From both One and S4.

alundra212 said:
I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
The reason i bought such a huge phone was for the s pen. It helped me in college for taking notes, but then ive bought an ipad which can work for the same purpose, except without the s pen.
Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones
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Dont I have used both and to b honest both only luk gud thats all ,me back to note 2 .
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alundra212 said:
I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
The reason i bought such a huge phone was for the s pen. It helped me in college for taking notes, but then ive bought an ipad which can work for the same purpose, except without the s pen.
Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones
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Personally I would go for the HTC One
It is a stunning looking phone and I personally prefer HTC Sense to TouchWiz. All IMO of course, but if I could turn back time I would have got the One instead of the N7105.
32GB Storage is enough for most people, and the only negative is the non-replaceable super sealed in battery where there's no getting at it without wrecking the rest of the phone. From my experience though, this won't be an issue for the lifespan that you'll have the phone.

alundra212 said:
I have sold my s3 and got a note 2 since december from last year.
The reason i bought such a huge phone was for the s pen. It helped me in college for taking notes, but then ive bought an ipad which can work for the same purpose, except without the s pen.
Nowadays im just not finding the note 2 practical for everyday usage. Its just too big.
So now im Thinking of selling it and either buying either an s4, htc one or xperia z.
Can someone give me feedback on those phones?
I love the design of sony phones, but i also cant live without the features of samsung phones
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stop making obvious thread, we will all replace it with the Note 3

Good luck with your search, if you happen to find something better please keep us informed.

hagba said:
Good luck with your search, if you happen to find something better please keep us informed.
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That would be the note 3 only.

FinancialWar said:
That would be the note 3 only.
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This depends though on how biased you may be to a particular company.
As bizarre as it sounds, some grown men actually "support" an electronics company the same way normal people support a sports team.
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fade2black101 said:
This depends though on how biased you may be to a particular company.
As bizarre as it sounds, some grown men actually "support" an electronics company the same way normal people support a sports team.
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Logic fail...
why is supporting a sports team considered normal and support a electronics company isn't? In what ways does a sport team have in connection with it's fans? Nothing. People support a sport team so that they have a sense of belonging, thus filling the mid level needs in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Different people have difference ways of completing that need. Some "grown" men support their country and hence nationalism, some men support their sport team and hence the sporting industry.
In fact, a normal person can have more sense of belonging to a electronic company because they can buy shares of that company and become part owner.

If you want to change to a similar size just wait for the HTC One Max or the Note 3. They'll be here shortly. Even the Xperia Ultra Z looks nice.
However If you feel that Note 2 is big for you, definitely try the HTC one. Its an awesome phone. I bet you wont give up that one easily.

HTC One would be the way to go, or a Nexus 4.
However, out of experience I can tell: you can get used to a phone with big screen such as the Note 2, but the other way around.. Not really. When I take my Nexus in my hands now, it feels like a freaking toy. The Note is just boss. Also Note 2 community is very alive (on XDA and beyond too) and there are many good TW and AOSP roms and kernels out there..
Off the record: I even dare to say I have a better AOSP experience than on my Nexus, why ? 'Cause of the 5,5" display..

I sold my htc one and bought the note 2. I can tell you what i think (pros ans cons)
1 htc one is much faster than note 2 and s4
2 the big screen in the note2 is a pro and con at the same time. "Pro" because ots really great to play games and read and "con" because its hard to handle it with one hand. Also the htc one sreen is much greater than the note 2, looks a lot sharper and better colors
3 the battery of the note2 is really amazing, i have gotten 8hrs screen time while in the htc one i have gotten 6+ hrs screen time but sometimes just 5hrs screen time
4 the camera on both are great, i like the htc camera more because of the functions and the quality is really great
5 the sound of the htc one is simply the best, even better than some laptops trust me!!
6 you can install a sd card in the note2
7 you have spen in the note2 (i dont use it that much so to me its not a big deal)
Im thinking in sale my note2 and get the htc one again but its hard to leave the great battery life i get with the note2 so its your choice mate
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FinancialWar said:
Logic fail...
why is supporting a sports team considered normal and support a electronics company isn't? In what ways does a sport team have in connection with it's fans? Nothing. People support a sport team so that they have a sense of belonging, thus filling the mid level needs in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Different people have difference ways of completing that need. Some "grown" men support their country and hence nationalism, some men support their sport team and hence the sporting industry.
In fact, a normal person can have more sense of belonging to a electronic company because they can buy shares of that company and become part owner.
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Because it's usually sad losers who ramble on online desperately trying to defend their precious brands and these "fanboys" have no shame.
A supporter of a sports team usually isn't the type of loser who portrays a sad and lonely one man crusade online to defend his precious brand name. Dunno what sports you like mate, but I go for a few beers with my mates and then go watch Arsenal. It is completely different to feeling the need to ramble on whenever a company like Apple is mentioned.
The fanboy "iFail, Crapple" type people are all too frequent and pathetic and they need to get a life.
As for the rest of your rant, I tend to find the online or technology "fanboys" to be more cringeworthy than the rest. Maybe they're sociallu awkward and need support the samsung or apple team (whatever that means).
The only logic fail here is you telling the op that the Note 3 is the best even though he already said the note 2 was too big for him. I would hazard a guess this is because you are one of these aforementioned fanboy characters and can't bear to see anyone suggest anything other than the Note
Sad but true
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renehd2 said:
I sold my htc one and bought the note 2. I can tell you what i think (pros ans cons)
1 htc one is much faster than note 2 and s4
2 the big screen in the note2 is a pro and con at the same time. "Pro" because ots really great to play games and read and "con" because its hard to handle it with one hand. Also the htc one sreen is much greater than the note 2, looks a lot sharper and better colors
3 the battery of the note2 is really amazing, i have gotten 8hrs screen time while in the htc one i have gotten 6+ hrs screen time but sometimes just 5hrs screen time
4 the camera on both are great, i like the htc camera more because of the functions and the quality is really great
5 the sound of the htc one is simply the best, even better than some laptops trust me!!
6 you can install a sd card in the note2
7 you have spen in the note2 (i dont use it that much so to me its not a big deal)
Im thinking in sale my note2 and get the htc one again but its hard to leave the great battery life i get with the note2 so its your choice mate
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What made you sell the HTC One in the first place? Out of curiousity..
I've got the LTE Note 2 and I don't think I get much better life than the HTC One. I've been pondering selling up and getting the One..
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fade2black101 said:
Because it's usually sad losers who ramble on online desperately trying to defend their precious brands and these "fanboys" have no shame.
A supporter of a sports team usually isn't the type of loser who portrays a sad and lonely one man crusade online to defend his precious brand name. Dunno what sports you like mate, but I go for a few beers with my mates and then go watch Arsenal. It is completely different to feeling the need to ramble on whenever a company like Apple is mentioned.
The fanboy "iFail, Crapple" type people are all too frequent and pathetic and they need to get a life.
As for the rest of your rant, I tend to find the online or technology "fanboys" to be more cringeworthy than the rest. Maybe they're sociallu awkward and need support the samsung or apple team (whatever that means).
The only logic fail here is you telling the op that the Note 3 is the best even though he already said the note 2 was too big for him. I would hazard a guess this is because you are one of these aforementioned fanboy characters and can't bear to see anyone suggest anything other than the Note
Sad but true
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seems like you generalise everything you observe.

Note 3 Scroll Tests

I am extremely disappointed that scrolling on the Note 3 isn't "buttery smooth" as claimed by many reviewers. I have found scrolling to be janky and jittery most of the time. It completely destroys the touch metaphor. I have posted some examples on YouTube. Unfortunately my camera isn't very good and doesn't shoot at a high enough frame-rate to show just how bad the problem really is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSG9SGP-hyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3hEDJWe5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDko2cQQhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri0VVQe078

This problem exists with all android device not just note 3.
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Unfortunately i notice too, it's the thing i look first when using a new phone.

I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.

You're comparing it with devices from other platforms. In that case, wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to android and Google in your comments instead of note3 and samsung ?
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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I agree. ios is all about a pretty experience (not they they have succeeded with ios 7). Pretty is not necessarily a bad thing but that is the prime focus for Sir Ive et al. That said, it is still a little surprising that a processor of the power of SD800 isn't always smooth!
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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lynkchiz said:
I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.

tWoBrO said:
Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites. Of course the overlay that samsung and other OEMs put on top of android doesn't help in that regard either.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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Ignore. Double post.

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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Gotta disagree here, the App Store on my iPhone 5 is horrid the first time it loads? Sometimes taking

scott.deagan said:
Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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You can read this article, has some interesting insight as to why Android is not as smooth as say iOS is. I don't own this device yet, but I've been using the HTC One which is the smoothest android experience I've had to date. It's still not as smooth as my wife's iPhone but it's approaching it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252

MohJee said:
The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites.
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I'm not confused at all, and i agree with you about the advantages of Android. I'm perfectly aware of that, that's why i bought one, and i have had many others, instead of an iOS device.
I will say it again, i have bought a Note 3 that costs about the same as an iPhone in my country. And that's because i think the Note is way better for my needs!
But this isn't a fight to see what OS is better, or what phone, i don't want to go there at all. I don't care about that. I'm just talking about a specific issue that bothers me with my phone, and that i have experience in my 4+ years experience with Android.
Every one wants more and better, i'm no different. Apparently some ppl don't care about this issue, others don't even see it, but i do and i would like it to be a little better. Don't see what the problem is here.
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.

tWoBrO said:
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.
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Of course, I feel the same way exactly. I want the best of both worlds. This is the nature of all human beings. Without it, civilization itself wouldn't have existed
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I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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hagba said:
I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
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I'm not the most informed, but I believe that Java has drastically improved in speed (JIT and I think you can use JNI). Also, 2 seems to be from Munn's piece (which is inaccurate).

Losing faith in the brands. ?

I am starting to loose faith in the brands to produce a phone that's both of a high quality and runs well. I own 3 flagships. (As you can see in my signature.) Today I have almost lost faith as I put each device side by side. The nexus 5 I have already had to return due to screen issues, and the Z1 instantly seems like a fingerprint magnet, lets not even mention the anti shatter film and the yellow tints. Finally the one device I can't keep my hands off, the note 3 - is amazing - but why is such an expensive phone made so cheaply? I thought the metal bezel would be stainless steel, or some cheap form of metal, but sprayed on chrome know to chip and scratch easily? This is a phone worth over £500... The price of a car.. What was Samsung thinking? Now I know everyone has different tastes, and some of the problems I've mentioned won't bother others... But can someone please point me in the direction of a company that makes QUALITY products. I don't care about price... I need a phone that just works....
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I will credit the Nexus 5 with being the best of the 3 IMO. Minus the screen problems, the dead pixels and the noise cancelling feature cancelling my own voice its quite good...
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Well Apple makes GREAT products. I had been an iPhone user from the 3g up to the 5. They make great quality phones as far as build. Even the plastic 3g was a nice sturdy build. But unfortunately their OS is to locked down and boring for someone who is majorly tech savvy like myself. Which is why I took my 5 back and got the Note 2. It's cheaply made but does everything I need and then some. The iPhone couldn't.
The problem I've noticed with Android phones is you can get a nice sturdy build with a nice look (like the HTC One) but the version of the OS sucks because the manufacturer or the provider or both. Or your forced to be stuck on a crappy version of ICS or JB with no chance to upgrade.
If your looking for a phone that just works with a great quality build. And don't care about customization and certain features you would get with Android, like keyboard swiping for instance, the iPhone is a great phone.
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Thank you DedZed, most people would have had a go at me and been defensive of their devices but thank you for being honest and offering advise. When you've spent over £1200/$1959 on 3 phones that don't quite work to my expectation's you can imagine how frustrated I am :/
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Oh I hear ya~!! I unfortunately at one time was one of those guys. Major Apple fan. I would say go to your local Apple dealer or provider and play with the iPhone and ask any questions you may have about the device. That way you're not wasting money if you don't like it.
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There's one in the city, I'll go have a look tomorrow. Thanks
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Anytime. ^_^
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Dedzed said:
The problem I've noticed with Android phones is you can get a nice sturdy build with a nice look (like the HTC One) but the version of the OS sucks because the manufacturer or the provider or both. Or your forced to be stuck on a crappy version of ICS or JB with no chance to upgrade.
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If you don't like Sense, you can get a HTC One Google Edition.

You can't update your HTC One? What are you talking about? As far as quality build phone goes I'm VERY VERY VERY satisfied with my Galaxy S3 LTE (Black edition). It droped face-up, face-down, I'm constantly playing with it, keep it in pocket with Zippo (Guilty) and stuff...and it hasn't got a scratch on the places that matter (The back cover is easily replaceable, tho the new one wont have the LTE logo on it)....Even though I'm thinking about replacing it with black S4 (just because of the wider display and camera), this phone is a warm recommendation from me.

Trusted xolo... Proud to be having such a beautiful phone

myself11 said:
If you don't like Sense, you can get a HTC One Google Edition.
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That's true I forgot about that.
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xhenga said:
You can't update your HTC One? What are you talking about? As far as quality build phone goes I'm VERY VERY VERY satisfied with my Galaxy S3 LTE (Black edition). It droped face-up, face-down, I'm constantly playing with it, keep it in pocket with Zippo (Guilty) and stuff...and it hasn't got a scratch on the places that matter (The back cover is easily replaceable, tho the new one wont have the LTE logo on it)....Even though I'm thinking about replacing it with black S4 (just because of the wider display and camera), this phone is a warm recommendation from me.
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I wasn't saying you can't upgrade the HTC One. I was using it as an example of a quality built phone.
I love all of the Galaxy series. They are a little on the cheaply made side but your right they do take a whooping pretty well. And unlike most people I like Touchwiz. Lol
The S4 is a really nice phone but if you wait a couple more months you can get the S5.
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That's true I forgot about that.
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I wasn't saying you can't upgrade the HTC One. I was using it as an example of a quality built phone.
I love all of the Galaxy series. They are a little on the cheaply made side but your right they do take a whooping pretty well. And unlike most people I like Touchwiz. Lol
The S4 is a really nice phone but if you wait a couple more months you can get the S5.
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Yeah...Well, I can imagine the price tag on the S5 (Knowing it will have 64bit ram, god-knows-how-much core processor, RAM and everything). I'm a student, so replacing my s3 lte with s4 isn't very big investment, but replacing it with S5 is gonna be pretty much impossible, unless I find some donor (wink-wink) I just don't know is S4 worth the money...I got my phone updated to 4.3 yesterday and oh baby its running so smooth... (tho in /system folder i have 200mbs left...dunno what I'm gonna do)

xhenga said:
Yeah...Well, I can imagine the price tag on the S5 (Knowing it will have 64bit ram, god-knows-how-much core processor, RAM and everything). I'm a student, so replacing my s3 lte with s4 isn't very big investment, but replacing it with S5 is gonna be pretty much impossible, unless I find some donor (wink-wink) I just don't know is S4 worth the money...I got my phone updated to 4.3 yesterday and oh baby its running so smooth... (tho in /system folder i have 200mbs left...dunno what I'm gonna do)
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One of the features of 4.3 allows you to move apps to your sd card and run them from there so if you have an sd card you could do that. Or if you don't you get a 64gb one from Amazon for around $40.
The S3 is still a great phone but with the added features and faster processor makes the S4 a great upgrade candidate.
Also if your extending your carrier contract you would get the S5 for $200 minus trade in of your S3. As long as the carrier sticks to what they've done previously that is.
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I think its a great time for brands and the options we have as customers

Oppo Find 5
Check out the OPPO Find 5 Phone. There is a really nice review of it on their site from Android Authory.
Let me know what you guys think!

I quit Samsung and bought a moto x. In my opinion it feels premium and runs the latest Android version pretty well.
You should try it.
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Note 3 to a S5 who plans on changing?

Well with the Galaxy S5 only a few months away now, as i don't believe it launch in January more like late March early April, who plans on changing from the Note 3 to the S5?
Rumors so far for the S5 are
5.25" QHD 2K screen with over 500ppi
3GB of Ram
Snapdragon 805 chipset
32GB as standard
16mp camera with OIS maybe
4K video without any limits
Premium body instead of plastic
If these specs turn out to be true, would you be tempted or will you hang on for the Note 4 in September?

ixon2001 said:
Well with the Galaxy S5 only a few months away now, as i don't believe it launch in January more like late March early April, who plans on changing from the Note 3 to the S5?
Rumors so far for the S5 are
5.25" QHD 2K screen with over 500ppi
3GB of Ram
Snapdragon 805 chipset
32GB as standard
16mp camera with OIS maybe
4K video without any limits
Premium body instead of plastic
If these specs turn out to be true, would you be tempted or will you hang on for the Note 4 in September?
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if samdung's knox horsecrap is still there....NO!
no more samdung phone thanks to their knox crap.and i will also advise others of the same.

Note 4 maybe
sent from my Note 3 or Galaxy Gear

For me to switch the S5 has to be different in a lot of ways. Preferably better looking, and now after having a 5.7inch screen... going back to something smaller won't cut it for me right now.
I went from S3 > HTC One and avoided the S4 because it wasn't much different to the S3 looks wise

No way..never going bk to a smaller screen
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All hailed Samsung. Yea hail ed.. f$#@k Samsung from now on
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After using 5.7 screen difficult to go back
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Definitely not. This phone is super nice.
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Its would take a lot to get me to switch to another phone now. Not a lot of flagships offer a dual sim version.

After many years I playing around some Android & iPhone
I would be stick with Note Family ( Note 2 / Note 3 / Note 4 ).
S Family ( S2 / S3 / S4) did not suit me enough.

ixon2001 said:
Well with the Galaxy S5 only a few months away now, as i don't believe it launch in January more like late March early April, who plans on changing from the Note 3 to the S5?
Rumors so far for the S5 are
5.25" QHD 2K screen with over 500ppi
3GB of Ram
Snapdragon 805 chipset
32GB as standard
16mp camera with OIS maybe
4K video without any limits
Premium body instead of plastic
If these specs turn out to be true, would you be tempted or will you hang on for the Note 4 in September?
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You forgot it will do the coffee, it could recharge car's batteries, it will have flexible screen, it will have a toggle witch can chose the night/day over there, and sure, the most usefull, kitty (pu**y) magnet!!!

iba21 said:
... and sure, the most usefull, kitty (pu**y) magnet!!!
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Hmm, I guess the Samsung marketing dept. must have heard you:
http://youtu.be/T8nJKWJTsUg

xclub_101 said:
Hmm, I guess the Samsung marketing dept. must have heard you:
http://youtu.be/T8nJKWJTsUg
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Ahaaa yep i saw it last day..
Well the "competitor" is a dumb! a homosex should have more possibilities than him!! Ahaha
Anyway she is so "beatch"!
Merry christmas

I could not go back to a smaller screen. Nor will I give up my Spen.
- The metal casing rumour has already been killed by Sammobile&DigiTimes: Nobody is producing them. And it would make no marketing sense to heed the wishes of a few over the purchases of millions. Wishful thinking, the Note 3 was also 'certain' to have a metal case. Mine doesn't, does yours?
- It's just going to be an 2.5Ghz S800, not an S805.
- No curved display either.
Other than the screen, battery and spen, the specs are identical to the Note 3. As much as I would like 2K on my phone, imagine the battery drain on the by default much smaller battery, and lag. The Galaxy S lineup has always lagged. Adding 2K will only make matters worse...

Now i have mini 2 for almost one year and really i like it it have NFC but i wish Samsung release ics or jb for it so i can use NFC for beam beam and now i'm on cm10.1 kitkat soon but i'll gonna buy Nexus 6 i think when it released really i love nexus family
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ShadowLea said:
I could not go back to a smaller screen. Nor will I give up my Spen.
- The metal casing rumour has already been killed by Sammobile&DigiTimes: Nobody is producing them. And it would make no marketing sense to heed the wishes of a few over the purchases of millions. Wishful thinking, the Note 3 was also 'certain' to have a metal case. Mine doesn't, does yours?
- It's just going to be an 2.5Ghz S800, not an S805.
- No curved display either.
Other than the screen, battery and spen, the specs are identical to the Note 3. As much as I would like 2K on my phone, imagine the battery drain on the by default much smaller battery, and lag. The Galaxy S lineup has always lagged. Adding 2K will only make matters worse...
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I agree that increasing the resolution and ppi could cause lags. IMO it is not productive at all. We already cannot see pixels, and my Note 3 screen shows exactly same area, if I open an excel sheet, or a map, or a book, as my i9305 S3 with 1280x720 screen.
I do not agree that Galaxy S lineup laggs. That's maybe true, but the reason is Touchwiz. Your own fault if you stick to it. I am running CM on my S3, and it flies. With CM 11 I don't think there is any difference compared to iPhone. Well maybe just sometimes .
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UAE_400 said:
After using 5.7 screen difficult to go back
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Haha same here, I will never use a smaller phone again.
My colleague bought a S4, I thought it was a S4 mini.
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I could not go back to a small screen size!

Anything below 5.7 inch can go **** itself.
Now, give me a galaxy mega with note 3 specs and you have yourself a very happy customer.

No way!
Note 3 with S Pen, the best of the best.
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akdenizx said:
I could not go back to a small screen size!
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Me too!
No way back to anything less than a 5.7" .
I just wonder how big the screen will be for next year's Note 4.....
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