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Hi!
For those of us with SBK v2...should we just upgrade to last OTA?
As in those working on achieving root will focus on ICS
What do you think?
If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.
its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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wildestpixel said:
its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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This is a question, not a statement but wouldn't keeping to a rootable rom with SBK2 still make sense? I could use Razorclaw with my tab until 8.6.5.21 but had to downgrade (a struggle) in order to reroot after update.
This is and has always been the solution for a device so difficult to root (you don't just oem unlock from fastboot!!!!).
Never flash anything that itself doesn't contain :
- Insecure kernel
- Superuser.apk
- Superuser binary
- Busybox
- FOTAKILL.apk
Which is essentially a custom rom even if otherwise stock.
For ICS - wait for the download to be intercepted from cache (OTA) or available on ASUS website in full and then let someone do the rooting of the ROM - just has someone like daoist has for TF.
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pjfriend said:
If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.
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ICS is just as simple to root as any other Android OS as far as the ROM goes. New kernels ranging 3.08 through 3.16 at present have the same structure for ro.secure=0 for making them insecure - they are the only real different bit. The ROMs vary little to GB or froyo in their build up.
I've rooted and insecured a couple of Nexus S ROMs on the Nexus S forum just to help people who don't want the pain of going back to stock, reinstalling CWM and root just to be able to use ICS (along with deodex, zipalign and small systemui.apk tweaks).
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Thanks, you are a great source of knowledge!
Very much appreciated.
So I have SBK 2, on 8.4.4.11
Should I stay there?
Thanks!
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I would get root ASAP and go to something like Prime 2.11.
Use the 8.6.6.19 update bought to light by pjfriend get rooted ASAP I suppose. Do it whilst the tools are available to do it and then protect it by going to custom ROM.
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Thanks, whenever I star visiting a new Subforum I`m so lost!
Gonna do that now.
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Hello,
First, DO NOT Apply ASUS's ICS Upgrade when it comes out, let the development community work on it first.
Almost EVERY Android Device has been rooted, even when it is unrootable. It just takes time
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
I think what happens is people get antsy when a new update comes out and go all willy nilly installing stuff just to have it lol. So people dont go all willy nilly just wait a day or 2!
daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?
Like daoist says in every instance patience.
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RambJoe said:
Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?
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Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.
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Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.
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Yeah I think I'm WW.
Thanks.
as long as your roote once you should never have to root again... we will add ICS to our device just like we flash or install any rom to our advice.. with root already ther.... just as long as you dont update using official update or ruu file... you should be good for life! or if you send your **** to asus aint no tellin what it will come back on it
Edit : as for the ones that are bought with ics On them, only time will tell..
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daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.
kynetx said:
Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.
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You can "upgrade" to 8.6.6.19 worldwide if you have a supported tablet.
If with the upgrade to ICS there is no format of the system partition involved, then it should be possible with OTA Rootkeeper to keep root after upgrade.
Well I'm one of those people who might have missed something while browsing and searching the forum.. owning several Android devices which are all waiting for ICS it's getting hard to keep track of what to do
So here is my situration.. I have TF101 that was originally rooted via nvflash but the last WW OTA update ASUS released i just used rootkeeper to re-root my beloved device.
Other then rooting the device is pretty much stock when it comes to recovery, launcher and kernel.
So knowing this do I still need to unroot and re-root with natcho to keep root and do the OTA update to ICS ?
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It's being discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448345
Although I am not new to the rooting process; i have rooted, flashed, and unrooted by Droid X. However this asus eee pad transformer is a more valuable device that I am more hesitant to root. This past weekend I helped rooted by friend's Transformer but I am not likely to follow this rooting process. I am not sure of the benefits other than overclocking and rom flashing. I may want to root the Transformer but I am not sure if I can root it and still be able to get the ICS update pushed out by Asus. Can you guys explain if I can get this update when I have a rom flashed or I will have to set it back to stock and unroot it. Also can you guys explain more benefits of rooting this device.
Thanks,
Ryan
root only will not stop OTA update. It's when you install custom ROM and/or CWM recovery is when OTA update will fail.
Just ask your self if you're happy with it root or non root. Personal prefernces.
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baseballfanz said:
root only will not stop OTA update. It's when you install custom ROM and/or CWM recovery is when OTA update will fail.
Just ask your self if you're happy with it root or non root. Personal prefernces.
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Is there an easy way to get rid of the CWM recovery and have it back to normal just in time for the update. I have used the rootkit v7 on my friends Transformer and I think it put CWM recovery already for you. So in other words, is their a easy way to get back to normal stock root or stock without root???
I think if your rooted and the update comes out you will only have to wait a few hours maybe a day at most for one of the devs to release a stock Ics ROM with root and superuser and all you would have to do is flash it.
At least that's how I think it goes based off past experience with Evo 4g and Evo 3D
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Look here
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
I'm also considering rooting my transformer but have second thoughts like you about tablet costing more if something goes wrong compared to a phone.... But I think rooting now before the Ics update comes it'll be better for us due to the fact that when Ics update comes out it has the potential to block any way of rooting the transformer and like I said in last post rooting now then flashing a rooted version of Ics will benefit us by getting the update and not loosing root.
Now I just need to figure out how to root my new transformer I'm on the latest update 8.6.5.21-20111216 and find a stocked rooted ROM
Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated and THANKS will be given!! :beer:
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Ep3n3wp said:
I'm also considering rooting my transformer but have second thoughts like you about tablet costing more if something goes wrong compared to a phone.... But I think rooting now before the Ics update comes it'll be better for us due to the fact that when Ics update comes out it has the potential to block any way of rooting the transformer and like I said in last post rooting now then flashing a rooted version of Ics will benefit us by getting the update and not loosing root.
Now I just need to figure out how to root my new transformer I'm on the latest update 8.6.5.21-20111216 and find a stocked rooted ROM
Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated and THANKS will be given!! :beer:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185104
It worked like a charm. Hopefully this works for you too. I did it on the .21 update like you
baseballfanz said:
Look here
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
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This may sound like a stupid question but since this is an old repack version of the asus rom. Does this mean that we have to download and install every firmware that asus pushed out or will it skip a few and head to the latest firmware??? (i think i made the question harder to understand. Just tell me if you need me to clarify)
Ep3n3wp said:
Now I just need to figure out how to root my new transformer I'm on the latest update 8.6.5.21-20111216 and find a stocked rooted ROM
Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated and THANKS will be given!! :beer:
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This is the latest method of rooting and should work on .21 firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21023156
ryguymoeller said:
This may sound like a stupid question but since this is an old repack version of the asus rom. Does this mean that we have to download and install every firmware that asus pushed out or will it skip a few and head to the latest firmware??? (i think i made the question harder to understand. Just tell me if you need me to clarify)
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You should be able to update to the latest. If not you could always download the latest version from Asus website and try to manually update through the stock recovery.
baseballfanz said:
You should be able to update to the latest. If not you could always download the latest version from Asus website and try to manually update through the stock recovery.
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sounds a bit risky, i just stick with the old firmware and if I have to keep on updating it, seems safer. What rom do you have on your Transformer and how are the features compared to the others???
ryguymoeller said:
sounds a bit risky, i just stick with the old firmware and if I have to keep on updating it, seems safer. What rom do you have on your Transformer and how are the features compared to the others???
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I use Roach's Prime 2.1.1. Happy with it so I never bother trying anything else.
If and when ICS get released I'm pretty sure Roach will cook something up
if not CyanogenMod might have something also.
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I use Roach's Prime 2.1.1. Happy with it so I never bother trying anything else.
If and when ICS get released I'm pretty sure Roach will cook something up
if not CyanogenMod might have something also.
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Are their videos on this rom? I know i seen a few on the Revolver Rom but haven't seen any Prime video's.
Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?
How are we supposed to know before its released?
Wait until someone confirms OTA Doorkeeper works. I'm going to give it a try when I get the update. No one can really tell unless the app doesn't support JB
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Since TF300 has already got it's JB update, does anyone know if rootkeeper works on that one after the update?
kanewangkw said:
Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?
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We heard some news that TF300 after upgraded to JB able to keep root, so we believe we should able to...but for our TF700, only time will tell!
Or if you have an unlocked bootloader you could simply keep using what you have and wait for a day or two(i know its hard) and the awesome devs of this community will have a rooted rom out based on the new JB Update. The roms out now based off of ICS and the TF300 JB are already great. It wont take long to get the little bugs squashed with official source. just my humble opinion.
In order to keep root with the TF300T JB OTA you had to use SuperSU and Voodoo together. Others staying with Superuser and Voodoo lost root. Make sure you check the keep root function in SuperSU's settings though before starting the update. Also worked with the 4.1.1 update last night.
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Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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gtg420i said:
In order to keep root with the TF300T JB OTA you had to use SuperSU and Voodoo together. Others staying with Superuser and Voodoo lost root. Make sure you check the keep root function in SuperSU's settings though before starting the update. Also worked with the 4.1.1 update last night.
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how exactly they both work together? since I haven't used SuperSU before so any detail would be helpful.
Is that I just toggle ON SuperSU's OTA survival mode before the OTA, and restore the root by using Voodoo after the OTA?
vhuynh13 said:
Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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seriously we won't know anything until it is released.
if you want root don't accept any update until you hear from the devs that it is safe.
kanewangkw said:
Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?
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Where did you found this news?
komple said:
Where did you found this news?
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Right here.
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vhuynh13 said:
Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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NO, there is no way to root jellybean currently! You need to root before upgrading to Jellybean!
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Hi all,
After much debate between the Infinity, Prime and TF300 I settled on getting a TF300T. It's new out of the box and is charging up right this minute.
I am coming from a Motorola Xoom which I had rooted running EOS JB ROM and TWRP Recovery.
I've been having a look through the TF300T forums and I see that the general advice seems to be not to be not to upgrade OTA until I have rooted and unlocked, is this correct?
I have seen SparkyRoot but was wondering lso what is the best and easiest method for rooting ? I am in the UK so I guess I have to make sure I find instructions etc for the UK version?
I am not looking to install any custom ROMs yet, I want to see how the stock goes for now. I am interested in getting it rooted though because I have apps like Titanium, Sixaxis Controller which need root privileges.
I guess you guys in this corner of the forum will be seeing more of me now that I have a TF300T. I will see how I get on with this tablet for a week or two before I finally ditch and sell my trusty old Xoom.
Thanks in advance for your help.
burt_ie said:
Hi all,
After much debate between the Infinity, Prime and TF300 I settled on getting a TF300T. It's new out of the box and is charging up right this minute.
I am coming from a Motorola Xoom which I had rooted running EOS JB ROM and TWRP Recovery.
I've been having a look through the TF300T forums and I see that the general advice seems to be not to be not to upgrade OTA until I have rooted and unlocked, is this correct?
I have seen SparkyRoot but was wondering lso what is the best and easiest method for rooting ? I am in the UK so I guess I have to make sure I find instructions etc for the UK version?
I am not looking to install any custom ROMs yet, I want to see how the stock goes for now. I am interested in getting it rooted though because I have apps like Titanium, Sixaxis Controller which need root privileges.
I guess you guys in this corner of the forum will be seeing more of me now that I have a TF300T. I will see how I get on with this tablet for a week or two before I finally ditch and sell my trusty old Xoom.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm assuming you have not taken the jb update. Here's what happened to me...
I was on ICS. I rooted using the debugfs method, in the Dev section. I took the jb update and thanks to ota rootkeeper I was able to restore root with no issue. I had to wipe data shortly after to resolve a problem. That caused me to lose root permission, and I couldn't get it back without unlocking and using step 3 of the jb root guide, in the general section.
I'm now on stock jbwith an unlocked bootloader, twrp recovery, root, and a couple of tiny mods from the Dev section. I consider having twrp much better than maintaining the warranty because you can easily do full backups, and flash things like mods and root. Hope this helps you.
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I have rooted my TF300 first then I was on ICS.
I have used [ROOT][TOOL]Debugfs automated root v1.9 - update 7/2/2012 - Prime & TF300t by sparkym3
and after I have backuped my root with OTA rootkeeper - free version.
I have checked my root with Root Checker-Free version.
I have updated my device on JB by OTA without problem.
Restored my root with OTA rootkeeper.
And finally, I have unlocked my TF300 with Asus tool: UnLock_Device_App_V7.apk
Restored my root with OTA Rootkeeper.
Installed TWRP Recovery, which is for my part, the recovery which is more stable
And actually, I'm on [ROM] Asus Custom Rom - JB Overclock Edition V01
If you want to know more, click on my sig and go to see the index for TF300
Awesome thanks guys
It's finished charging now, I've turned it on but disabled wifi so I don't get any OTA updates.
Looking at my build number it says: IML7K.WW-epad-9.4.3.26-20120416
I seen some guides where the build number was important, I'll go back and double check.
I'll check out those links Phil. Going to make sure I read everything properly as I don't want to end up bricking my new toy
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Looking at the links Philos64 posted it looks quite straightforward, glad to see TWRP on the TF300 as I loved that recovery on my Xoom
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Hello again,
Looking at debug automated root its says supported version: v9.4.3.30 for the TF300T (ICS 4.0.3)
Seeing as my build number said 9.4.3.26 do I have to update my tab first?
Just want to make sure I don't balls this thing up so early lol
Thanks again for all your help
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Can you root on jelly bean with the same process as ICS?
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Seeing as my build number said 9.4.3.26 do I have to update my tab first?
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Yes, you can
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Can you root on jelly bean with the same process as ICS?
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Actually no. You cannot root if you are on JB
That's a shame.
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Yes, you can
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Do I just do an OTA update to get it up to 9.4.3.29? I guess there will be a succession of small updates and as long as I stop on that one?
Sorry for having so many questions.. don't mean to be a nag lol
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So, you can stop the OTA updates at v9.4.3.30
Thanks Philos64 shall do it now... will report back later with the results.
Big thank you coming your way
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All so far so good...rooted and all backed up, just waiting for the JB update to download now.
Just one more thing? I was looking at TWRP and I was wondering how to install it? I know that on my xoom I already had CWM installed and just ran the file from recovery which gave me TWRP but how can I do that with the TF300T? On the TWRP website it says about 2 options:
Install Fastboot Method & Install ADB / Terminal method...both of which I have never done before. Is it easy to do as long as I follow the instructions?
Thanks again :laugh:
Well everything went well, I got root access which confirmed with root checker, done a backup of my root and installed the Jelly Bean update but then Root backup lost my backup
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Well everything went well, I got root access which confirmed with root checker, done a backup of my root and installed the Jelly Bean update but then Root backup lost my backup
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Then you'll need to unlock the bootloader and follow the guide in the general section to get it back. For twrp, go find links to the twrp site in the Dev section. They have install instructions on the twrp site. Again, you must unlock the bootloader to install it.
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So if I unlock my boot loader I can then root? I don't mind voiding my warranty.
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So if I unlock my boot loader I can then root? I don't mind voiding my warranty.
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Sure can. If you are already on jb, unlock, then follow step 3 of this guide for root and recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
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That is brilliant news! After reading the forums here i thought that now I was on Jellybean I had lost the ability to root. I guess a lot of people don't want to void their warranty by unlocking their bootloader. I had to do the same thing with my xoom.
I will give this a try sometime this week
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