My initial opinions of the Inspire 4G - HTC Inspire 4G

I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.

Awesome, I can't wait.

hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets

AndreaCristiano said:
hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets
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I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.

chocodough said:
I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.
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really how old are you?? LOL small world!

chocodough said:
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
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This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.

I just cant decide if I wanna give up my i4 for this. I wanna buy outright but sometimes I just cant justify that price when I think of other things I could buy for that amount of money. The front facing camera doesnt bother me because I have had an i4 since launch and used it maybe 4 times. I just worry about size and the speaker volume. I know that overtime with roms that can be fixed so not so worried about that. My options now are to sell wait for someone to sell and the get a new itouch for the ios fix. Sorry but imo itunes just works for me, the only phone I've used as an audio device would be my iphone. I just really like android and flashing and always having the latest on it and have been back and forth since the g1. I just sometimes dont like all the time it takes away from life having to read up all the time or keep up with the latest. Anyways enough rambling just my thoughts.

cmstlist said:
This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.
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The only time I've used my front camera is to see if there is food in my teeth, so I don't think I'll miss not having a front camera.

Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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No worries on the low volume problem, TEST THIS ON YOUR DEVICES AND COMMENT PLEASE
An easy fix for the low external speaker volume is this app, created by the infamous Meltus from xda.
Its a must if indeed the speaker is low:
---->> http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-automod-jmiC.aspx
or
DSP Manager
---->>> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-apps-games/134633-dsp-manager-equalizer-android-2-2-a.html

ekerbuddyeker said:
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Yes I definately think it's a better device. Sure the Captivate is a good device when using a custom rom, but I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't need to run a custom rom to make the device work the way it is ment to. Plus when you run a customer rom is just has the feel of being pieced together from various parts and not really a complete experience.
HTC sense does make a world of difference. It is more than just an overlay like Touchwiz or Launcher Pro...etc... I used to be a diehard pure stock android experience, but Sense won me over. It adds so much to the device.
But the two issues I originally mentioned are a problem though. The tinny call quality and the low external speaker volume are things to take into consideration. It's terrible when you can't even hear the phone ring when it's on your hip. So far I've missed calls and SMS if my phone is in one room of my house and I am in another, whereas I could hear my iPhone even if I am upstairs and my phone is downstairs.
Today I emailed our area HTC rep and told her the problems that I and others are having and she is passing the info up the ladder. I said to her that I find it odd that HTC's quality control didn't notice the crappy speaker on the device and that I couldn't recommend the phone to my customers at this time until I hear of a resolution to the problems.
So although I love the Inspire and think it's a very good phone, I would hold off buying it until there is a bug fix or something to the speaker problems. I might have to go back to my iPhone 4 for the time being until HTC fixes the phone.
Before anyone makes a decisions on buying it, you might want to wait until the Motorola Atrix comes and compare the two.

After spending a day with the Inspire I promptly ditched my iP4. I also have a Captivate running Cognition and it just gets destroyed by the Inspire. I haven't been able to test battery life, but I know what I'm in for in that department.
The Inspire is quite simply very fast. Ran Quadrant to compare to other phones I've had this year as well. My Captivate running Cognition gets about 1500, while the Inspire was around 1900 each time. I've never used a phone that blew through that benchmark so fast. Neocore got around 57fps so that's very solid as well. GPS connected quickly, but I only tested it outdoors as that's where I would generally use it. Speaker is a bit weak, but sound is pretty fantastic through headphones. YouTube video played smooth and looked amazing. It's a much better YouTube experience than the iP4 imo.

chocodough said:
it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service.
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Seriously? No carrier is using true 4g. HSPA+ is considered 4g now; Just look at T-Mobile.

Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.

substance12 said:
Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.

HTC Inspire 4G vs Motorola Atrix 4G
chocodough said:
I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.
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Based on your experiences so far, how would you rank the Inspire 4G to the Motorola Atrix? I'm waiting to make up my mind on my next upgrade. The battery life and front facing camera are really hard for me to get past, but I'm not a major fan of Motoblur either (although I know the Tegra 2 processors should handle that ok).

Great write-ups guys, that's good information to hear. Concerning the speeds compared to other phones, remember that you're using a new phone and comparing it to other phones that are bogged down by applications and data files.
Back a few weeks ago I thought my captivate was fast Oced at 1.2. I rooted to install a newer version of the ROM, master cleaned it, and it was even faster stock than it was OCed before.

Exactly my worry. We've put all the work into the Captivate only to buy an inferior phone out of the box...
ekerbuddyeker said:
Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Depressing. Unlike many people, I value excellent call quality above being able to get a 5m gps fix in 10 seconds. The captivate does have the former going for it...
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.
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I've only made a couple of calls on mine, but they sounded just fine. Certainly not horrible.

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Coming from a Captivate to Inspire

So I picked up my Inspire this morning. Here are my initial thoughts coming from a Captivate with a custom ROM (where everything, including GPS works perfectly).
Screen: better contrast and brighter colors on the Captivate. screen size doesn't make that much difference.
Weight: Inpire is HEAVY compared to the Captivate. And bulkier.
Speed: Inspire is faster. Loading maps and Earth for example
Apps and Widgets: in most cases, Inspire wins hands down. Email and contacts are so much better IMHO
Camera: Captivate takes better pictures and has anti-shake. Inspire has better post production enhancements which makes final picture better on the Inspire.
Video: Captivate wins hands down. Was a replacement for my regular camera. Inspire is choppy, especially if you are moving. HTC doesn't have thus right yet.
Video player / playback: interesting one this one. Stock video player app better on the Captivate (much). But using 3rd party, like Rockplayer, is much better on Inpsire. Still nothing as good as Core on my HD2, but that's another story! Should be better than it is on Inspire.
Typing: both are excellent. I typed this on the Inspire landscape and its been a while since I didn't feel fear at typing something so long on a screen.
Sound: Captivate wins hands down. Inspire is a major disappointment after the Captivate, for both in call and speakerphone. HTC still needs to fix this.
Data: no question Inspire is faster where I live (NY).
Boot speed: same. Slow.
Battery life: too early to say. I had a custom ROM which meant 3 batteries a s day on the Captivate.
Battery door: WHAT THE FU## WAS HTC THINKING? Inspire is a disaster. Feels like I will break it every time I open the door (and with that small battery its inevitable that I will need to do so). No way you could change that on the move. Madness.
Overall: Inspire is a better overall experience. Since the day I got the Captivate I have tried to make it have the look and feel of HTC Sense! But I will miss weight, screen brightness, camera, video and sound of Captivate.
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Over all, I agree. The battery is not much of a concern to me ad I charge at my desk at work and have a car charger, though. Same goes for sound. I am either in my office or our datacenter. In my office, I can hear the vibration in my pocket of my jacket sitting on my coat rack. In the datacenter, I hear nothing but three hundred servers and large san arrays.
Those are really the only areas we differ.
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Thinking of switching to the inspire myself. I have a real love hate relationship with the Captivate. HTC is generally great build quality
gunnyman said:
Thinking of switching to the inspire myself. I have a real love hate relationship with the Captivate. HTC is generally great build quality
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Speaking as someone who did make the switch, I am actually quite satisfied so far.
ditto.........
id10terrordfw said:
Speaking as someone who did make the switch, I am actually quite satisfied so far.
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I also switched from the Inspire. I've only had it for a day, and I already feel that it was worth every penny to make the switch.
@OP Thanks for putting this up. I'd like to hear from more people who jumped to Inspire from the Captivate!
On a side note... would you rather be inspired? Or captivated? Seriously, these phones are getting some epic naming schemes! Oh wait...
I want to add that this is the first time in a while that I feel satisfied with a device out of the box.
I don't feel i need to tinker with anything...
OK that parts not true really, is it! I HAVE to root it so I can sideload, remove bloatware and tether for free. etc. here we go again...
alex4lex said:
@OP Thanks for putting this up. I'd like to hear from more people who jumped to Inspire from the Captivate!
On a side note... would you rather be inspired? Or captivated? Seriously, these phones are getting some epic naming schemes! Oh wait...
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i think I would rather be DESIRED!
I'm thinking very seriously about calling AT&T and asking them to switch me to the Inspire. I've had 2 different captivates and this one has random shut downs and a crap GPS, just like my first one.
I'm Inspired!
Hi folks. After having 2 Captivates and both of them being buggy, I decided, hey I'm still within the 30 day return policy with Costco, why not? Plus I heard from many disgruntled folks about how Samsung is hard to deal with. So, I went and got the Inspire and its like night and day! The display, the calender, the email, not to mention the boot up times and speed are all above par compared to the Captivate...I'm very happy with it. Now to find a case!
I made the switch and am never looking back
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Well I am coming back from one day on the dark side...
On a whim yesterday I went to AT&T store and picked up an Inspire. Tonight after work I will be taking it back.
The big deal breaker for me was that it doesn't support BT voice dialing, to my knowledge none of the HTC droid phones do??. The "enhancement" has been hanging out there for a year or better and it's not fixed. I tried the stock voice dialer, and ones from multiple other sources but it just wouldn't kick off the VD from any BT device.
You can root the Inspire (read downgrade ROM and root), but then have to install a diff ROM (the only one for now) since the root process breaks the sound and the source I'd bet will be a few months behind so you can't yet "play" with it like you can the captivate. Big thanks to attn1 though for the work he's done to progress it as far as it is, ON LAUNCH DAY.
All in all I agree with the OPs opinions and findings above and it's not a bad device. That being said I have been able to overcome most if not all of the issues with the captivate since there is SO MUCH development being done around it. I've had/have 3 of them. Sent one back for sleep death, have two now, one as daily driver and one as a dev phone and neither of them have any real issues.
A lot of people have had issues with the captivate I know but for me it's a decent device and is a lot more mature for someone that wants to have a toy as well as a phone, and the captivate just "feels" better to me. Not feels better in my hands... but the whole experience is just better for me.
mxracer101 said:
Well I am coming back from one day on the dark side...
On a whim yesterday I went to AT&T store and picked up an Inspire. Tonight after work I will be taking it back.
The big deal breaker for me was that it doesn't support BT voice dialing, to my knowledge none of the HTC droid phones do??. The "enhancement" has been hanging out there for a year or better and it's not fixed. I tried the stock voice dialer, and ones from multiple other sources but it just wouldn't kick off the VD from any BT device.
You can root the Inspire (read downgrade ROM and root), but then have to install a diff ROM (the only one for now) since the root process breaks the sound and the source I'd bet will be a few months behind so you can't yet "play" with it like you can the captivate. Big thanks to attn1 though for the work he's done to progress it as far as it is, ON LAUNCH DAY.
All in all I agree with the OPs opinions and findings above and it's not a bad device. That being said I have been able to overcome most if not all of the issues with the captivate since there is SO MUCH development being done around it. I've had/have 3 of them. Sent one back for sleep death, have two now, one as daily driver and one as a dev phone and neither of them have any real issues.
A lot of people have had issues with the captivate I know but for me it's a decent device and is a lot more mature for someone that wants to have a toy as well as a phone, and the captivate just "feels" better to me. Not feels better in my hands... but the whole experience is just better for me.
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I would say give devs a chance on this phone, it is still brand new. I remember the early days of Captivate development, there was a whole bunch of nuthin'.
As for BT voice dial, I have heard good things about Vlingo in car. Give it a shot, at least.
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I would say give devs a chance on this phone, it is still brand new. I remember the early days of Captivate development, there was a whole bunch of nuthin'.
As for BT voice dial, I have heard good things about Vlingo in car. Give it a shot, at least.
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I know things will progress with the device and it won't be long before there will be ROMS, Kernels etc. I just learned my lesson of not getting a device too soon.
I actually tried Vlingo and Choice Dialer... IMO they were horrible compared to the voice dialer on the captivate and they also didn't work with my BT in my truck. I have a BlueStar 2010 in my truck and it works great with the captivate to initiate calls from the OnStar buttons and use it purely via voice. I couldn't get it to work with the Inspire unless I physically touched the phone first, which is the point of my whole setup. I can simply get in the truck and make or receive calls without ever touching the phone. It's no reason whatsoever for anyone else to shy away from the phone, that's just a deal breaker for me.
Huge upgrade. Much better battery life + gps. And sense is so much better.
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I know things will progress with the device and it won't be long before there will be ROMS, Kernels etc. I just learned my lesson of not getting a device too soon.
I actually tried Vlingo and Choice Dialer... IMO they were horrible compared to the voice dialer on the captivate and they also didn't work with my BT in my truck. I have a BlueStar 2010 in my truck and it works great with the captivate to initiate calls from the OnStar buttons and use it purely via voice. I couldn't get it to work with the Inspire unless I physically touched the phone first, which is the point of my whole setup. I can simply get in the truck and make or receive calls without ever touching the phone. It's no reason whatsoever for anyone else to shy away from the phone, that's just a deal breaker for me.
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Gotcha, I know what that feeling is like. I went the the BB Bold 9700 from the 3GS. I hated it overall. Wound up going back to the iPhone.
Which is really sad for the BES administrator...
I just got back from the corp store with my Inspire!!!
Now to figure out the best way to sell my craptivate.....
I want to see some nice side by side photos of the Captivate vs. Inspire... Front, side view, back, etc etc
All you guys switching from the Captivate, how much are you paying? I talked with AT&T this morning and they said I would have to wait until April and then I could get the Inspire for 99 dollars plus a 75 dollar equipment fee.
I got the Inspire for my wife and I want it for myself ...... So if there is something I can do to get it faster, that would be great.

Goodbye Captivate hello htc inspire

I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
You mean you switched to a phone that has 2 doors that dont fit on the back and a camera that sticks out and the edges of the aluminum body protrude past the screen?
At least you can fix the software problems with the cappy...LOL just playing....enjoy
yep and like everything about it, nothing about cap i actually liked, was just only decent android phone att had at time. cappy felt like a little girl phone, and hated the plastic and the galaxy s sticking out all rough on the back, oh and the usb slot on top like how much thought was actually put into that? talking on the phone and its sticking out the top? Holding the htc in hand feels like quality and quite pleased with it, yes the battery door is rough to take off first few times but it loosens up, and atleast it has a flash.
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I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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I think I'm just about ready to join you.
Having to pay $399 off-contract to get the insipre sux, though. I'll have to sell my captivate, and I'm not sure whether to do it via Craigslist or eBay... just a hassle I wish I didn't have to deal with.
It'd be a lot easier if att would just take this phone back and give me credit towards the inspire, but I ain't gonna hold my breath for that one.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
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My early upgrade doesn't come til July, and I'm not gonna wait that long. It's getting harder and harder to hold out with all the happy captivate->inspire defections that are growing by the day ;-)
That's pretty encouraging on the Craigslist thing, I must say. That'll be the way I go, when this swap goes down.
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Love the inspire hardware, hate the software and from reading their development forums it seems like a much different community than ours.
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Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had my hands on both devices today. I agree about the screen size of the Atrix. It was just too small, and I didnt care for the feel of it either. Now the Inspire on the other hand, was REALLY nice, not to mention, $99.99 with a 2 yr, if I hadn't just done my upgrade on my Captivate. I'd give the Inspire a serious look.
There were a couple things that I think make the Cap a better phone. The Cap has the Hummingbird processor, and comes with double the internal memory the Inspire does. But the Inspire has a 8mp camera with flash. There aren't too many other devices that have that one. THe screen is a little bigger, and it really does feel pretty good, nice solid build
jc2470 said:
I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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did you happen to also notice a difference in call quality and battery life?
i was thinking of getting the inspire, but decided on the captivate since there were more things one can do on it.
i have to say that both phones look really nice though.
i love the captivate hardware, it's super slim, great screen, fast hummingbird, but the software blows. hopefully we can fix it with aosp builds until my contract is up again.
Only 12gb of storage is a big minus for me. Everything else look good though. I change phones once a year so by the time november rolls around something way better than the cappy and the inspire will be available.
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Volume & Signal ???
So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
Slowazz28 said:
So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
If memory is your prob just buy more its not that much, everything is more snappy its faster and i have great signal. Love the screen and i love sense ui built in theme support way more widgets and better widgets, htc sense to find your phone from web or ring it or remote wipe or lock is really kool. usb port on bottom as opposed to top on captivate which btw is the most retarded design flaw, who likes a charging cord pullig on top of phone especially car charger with the spiral cord? audio sounds really good to me on it better then on captivate, lets not forge dual led flash for camera, which is also 8mp led blinking notification on front which i loved on droid x but captivate lacked, bigger screen!
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
Mkv doesnt need to be re-encoded, mkv is only a wrapper, use a program called tsmuxer, i can do a 20g mkv in like 2 min its switchs the container file type, like mt2s or other compatiable file types and u can stream whatever to the tv so I got no problems with that.
Btw in 6 months there will be new phones out that are even better u are correct on that and i will be upgrading then aswell if they have a decent one out.
What's this whole gold card stuff? Looks like a monumental task tio root the thing ?
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Sold my captivate for 250 on craigslist and bought my Inspire off contract. Definitely the best decision I have made in a long time. I dont find myself missing anything about the captivate. I will always be buying HTC from now even if they dont start pumping out dual core phones. I take software over hardware.
Sold my captivate on ebay for $300 and currently have my wife's listed as well. Bought two new off contract inspire's and have been 100% happier than I ever was with any ROM on the captivate.
2 of my brothers just switched to inspire aswell and love it, captivate was never something that made me like wow i love this phone was just i love android. Now I love the phone like i did my droid x and te stock htc software is kool the way it is. Want root for it but no need to change roms.

[Q] should I let go of MT4 and get G2x?

It looks like every aspect on G2x is far superior than MT4, but one thing I still worry about is the calling quality.
Optimus T and Virgin don't have good call quality and the earpiece has some strange behavior, so this raises my concern. In addition, I'd like to know how is the speakerphone. It's poor on MT4, but speakerphone is exceptional on NS (this is a reason why I use NS more than MT4).
Now I'd like to know should I shell out $500 and get G2x and sell the "no defect" MT4?
I have both and the call quality is identical. The G2x beats the MT4G in all aspects.
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I have both and the call quality is identical. The G2x beats the MT4G in all aspects.
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Agree! but i prefer built quality on MT4G, but G2X is beast on speed and we all know that!
The G2x has either equal or better build quality. Its just as solid as anything on the market.
I also have both and the build quality is great on the G2X. I never liked the buttons on the MyTouch 4G. I own the G1, BB9700, MyTouch 4G, NEXUS ONE and now the LG G2X, this is without a doubt the best device I every owned. I have always been a big fan of the Nexus One and use it every day. I tried Verizon and the Thunderbolt and after using it for about 5 days I found the LTE speeds were just fantastic but when it comes right down to practical use the web pages didn't download any faster then they did on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I was getting around 13,000 DL on Verizon and about 5200 DL on T-Mobile and as I said the speeds don't make the user experience much different besides the lousy battery life on the Thunderbolt. I gave the Thunderbolt back and went back to the Nexus One. I like the ability to change sim cards on a daily basis and change my phones, can't do that on Verizon. Sorry for the ranting on but I just think if you are in a T-Mobile area there is no better Carrier to be with. Best plans, prices and the speeds are pretty darn fast.
I agree Thunderbolt is nice but even compared to my Nexus S, running on 3G, website pages were almost identical. The question for me is whether to get the G2X coming from a Nexus S. This is a good problem to have, either way its a win win
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It looks like every aspect on G2x is far superior than MT4, but one thing I still worry about is the calling quality.
Optimus T and Virgin don't have good call quality and the earpiece has some strange behavior, so this raises my concern. In addition, I'd like to know how is the speakerphone. It's poor on MT4, but speakerphone is exceptional on NS (this is a reason why I use NS more than MT4).
Now I'd like to know should I shell out $500 and get G2x and sell the "no defect" MT4?
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I have a 3 week old MyTouch that I just wiped clean (minus gfree root) that I plan on selling since I got my G2x. I was skeptical at first because I love my MyTouch 4g. I really thought that I'd end up selling the G2x, and staying with my MyTouch, but within two hours of getting the G2x, I had changed my mind.
The speaker phone is crystal clear. The speakers sound good when playing games, or video. If you have anymore questions, let me know.
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I have a 3 week old MyTouch that I just wiped clean (minus gfree root) that I plan on selling since I got my G2x. I was skeptical at first because I love my MyTouch 4g. I really thought that I'd end up selling the G2x, and staying with my MyTouch, but within two hours of getting the G2x, I had changed my mind.
The speaker phone is crystal clear. The speakers sound good when playing games, or video. If you have anymore questions, let me know.
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How's the call quality? Do you use BT, if so, any connections problems with it.
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How's the call quality? Do you use BT, if so, any connections problems with it.
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No I don't use BT, and the call quality is fine. Haven't had a dropped call.
oh yea, mine will be here today when I get off work.
How is the microphone quality. I've noticed the noise cancellation features of the Nexus One were not as well incorporated into the MT4G and it struggles with using Voice compared to my N1. How is the G2x? I'll find out myself soon enough.
I am so psyched to get this phone. Today I sold my G1 on Craigslist and bought an Optimus T for my new "backup" device. Boy that thing is faster than the droid. Anyway, my only problem will be that I was able to treat my G1 and now this Optimus like **** and not care. I'm going to baby this G2x so much, I prob wont even take it to work with me for the first week! lol
I may be getting rid of my g2 for the g2x. Radio Shack will give me $160 for my g2 to put towards the g2x at $499 retail price. Wonder when they will get some in stock?
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oh yea, mine will be here today when I get off work.
How is the microphone quality. I've noticed the noise cancellation features of the Nexus One were not as well incorporated into the MT4G and it struggles with using Voice compared to my N1. How is the G2x? I'll find out myself soon enough.
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it doesnt have noise cancellation but the call quality is great

Comparison between G2X and Sensation based on real world experience

Yesterday, I purchased a HTC Sensation from Walmart. I spent the day comparing it to my G2X (which I still have) and decided to see how the phones stack up against each other. The following are my observations:
Screen: I think this one comes down to preference. It's a hard call saying which one looks better than the other. The Sensation did not have any backlight bleeding (my G2X has minimal bleeding). When looking at the same picture on both phones side by side, the G2X seemed to be brighter. The viewing angles on the Sensation were not as extreme as on the G2X, but they were fine (unless your were looking at it from an extreme unnatural angle lol)
Performance: After having used a G2X since it came out, it took a little bit of getting used to the way the Sensation performs. That's not to say it's slow by any means (because it isn't), it just performs differently than the G2X. The Sensation has a lot of transition animations that the G2X doesn't have and this can make it feel slower than the G2X. For example, when you hit the home button on the G2X it takes you straight to the launcher, whereas when you hit the home button on the Sensation it fades into the launcher which takes about a split second longer. After a while I turned the animations setting on "some animations" because I prefer the snappiness of not having so many transitions than having all the eye candy. Of course this is just a personal preference. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will appreciate the eye candy. In using the phone I did not experience any slowdowns or lag. The phone was very responsive. All in all, I'd say both phones are on par with each other when it comes to responsiveness.
Sound: The Sensation wins this one easily. The sound on the G2X is very tinny and gets easily somewhat distorted. While the speakers on the Sensation aren't as good as some phones I've had (such as the Nexus S) they are definitely a higher quality than that of the G2X. The G2X does get a little bit louder than the Sensation, but it's sound quality is not on the same level.
Camera: The camera on the Sensation definitely responds faster than that of the G2X. As far as clarity goes, both phones take pretty decent pictures. I don't really see a world of difference between the two phones. I am pretty satisfied with the cameras on both phones.
Battery Life: Since I have only had the Sensation for one day I can't really speak to in depth on it's battery life. That being said, I will say this, I took the phone off of the charger with the battery around 80%ish and I had 3 hours of phone conversation, about 10 minutes shy of two hours of screen on time, push exchange email, facebook syncing, texting, and web browsing and the battery lasted me a little over 6 hours. This leads me to believe that the battery life on the Sensation is better than that of the G2X. My G2X in the same scenario would have died out much sooner than that.
Conclusion: It's hard for me to say which phone is "better". If you were trying to decide on a phone that was ready to go today, I would say go with the Sensation. Though I've only had it for a day, I did play with it extensively and I did not find any bugs. On my first day of having the G2X, I had already had multiple reboots and freezing. The Sense UI is a bit of an adjustment when coming from vanilla android but it is definitely very nice and very well implemented. The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively. I noticed the leaked G2X gingerbread rom has the same problem so I'm not sure if it's a gingerbread problem or what. Hopefully this thread helps those that might be on the fence between the two phones. If there is anything that I missed that you want to know, just let me know.
Nice review
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Thanks for the great review. I have been considering purchasing a Sensation to go with my G2X. AFter reading a lot of reviews I had decided against it. After reading your review I am back on the fence again as to whether to buy it off contract or not.lol Would be interested in your findings after about a week . Once again thanks for posting an honest objective review!!!!!
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
Well now it's a deathgrip thread. Wack.
Great review.
Gotta say I did like the sensation. It's a tad heavier then the g2x and I really liked that.
I only got to play with one for a minute but I loved the screen. I think it's got a really nice screen.
I did notice lag. The app drawer did have a slight delay before it would open.
Not a the fade out effect it does. Also the weather app was nice. Really like that.
But my g2x is faster.
Really that's all. The g2x is just as nice feeling.
Now the kicker.
I would just use adw ex on either phone. And I love the speed of the g2x.
Either phone would make me happy. But until I get gingerbread on my g2x is can't give an honest opinion.
Because my g2x is faster on 2.2. Has no issues but screen bleed. That never bothers me
So when 2.3 drops.
I was actually looking at the evo 3d now.
I may have to check it out.
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mobilehavoc said:
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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I would think even if the death grip exists, the vast majority of superphone owners use a protective case, so that should really never be a major issue.
To the OP.... thanks a BUNCH for your real world comparison! That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I'll still be within my exchange window when the Sensation hits T-Mo stores on the 15th and I'm still undecided if I want to return my G2X. The screen size and resolution of the Sensation is very appealing to me
I don't know, I'm hearing that there are quite a few problems with the Sensation. A buddy of mine got one yesterday and his is locking up and randomly rebooting on him. He's had problems with the GPS locking on and also says the audio leaves a lot to be desired.
Also, if you go to the Sensation forum here on XDA you can see that people are reporting various problems. One that concerns me is several people are reporting that dust particles are getting in behind their screens. That's not cool at all...
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
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Here's a direct comparison against the SGS2. The phone signal is effected but not to the degree Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are. You'll need to use Google Translate.
http://www.nordichardware.se/testla...tungviktare-med-hoeg-upploesning.html?start=8
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The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively.
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
hows the wifi calling
Im good with my G2X I need a Gyroscope for future gaming and 1 gig rom wont cut it and I hate quadrant on the snapdragon but sensation is a great device but so many hardware woes no Gyroscope people keep not pointing out witch is on the iPhone 4 and galaxy s 2 and LG 2X only.
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
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Someone posted the fix. That's why I didn't understand what you were trying to do. Kind of stupid on HTC's part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117912
Having left T-mo with a MT4G to go to *SpRent with the EVO4G and now back with the Mo I was looking for a HTC-ish device. The G2x was the common ground I decided on. I still own 2 Evo4g's (hustler plug) and have been waiting for this Sensation of a deal for T-Mo. Your review seems legit and non biased. Would like to hear what happens within a month of usage though.
"Y a month?" because within in that time, to me, you will have done what ever type of testing (unknowingly) there is to do with the device repeatedly in the many environments you frequent. And been able to post its abilities against the G2x under any and all situations you normally face.
See you in the Future
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hows the wifi calling
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I've only used the wifi calling a few times so far, but I will say it's been stable.
In other news: I've noticed that the bluetooth signal strength is not as strong as on the G2X. With my G2X I could put the phone on the charger and go upstairs or go outside and get as far as the driveway. With the Sensation I get about half the range that I was getting with the G2X.

Post Your Sensation User Reviews Here

It might be a good idea for members who already have the Sensation to post a review here. Give us your thoughts, opinions and general observations...good and bad.
I'm tempted to get one of these myself, but would love to hear opinions from people who already have them
Sensation is an amazing piece of hardware saddled by a crappy build of Sense. If this phone ran stock GB, it'd be hands down one of the best phones out.
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My own HTC SENSATION 4G FOR T-MOBILE REVIEW on Youtube http://youtu.be/jnvhPjJdnHE
Please keep the negative comments down...I have Lupus and i was having a bad pain day and couldnt walk...So i did the review in a chair. So what..lol
Don't shoot me for this as this is my personal opinion but here is my post in the mini comparison review that i posted in the GSII forum
I stopped by the TMO store near work today and checked out the sensation. I spent a good 10minutes with it (no one else was at the store)
Despite being thicker, it felt thinner in hand. I actually do like the overall design and feel better than the boxy feeling of Galaxy S II. That being said, if i hear another HTC fanboi whine about the Galaxy S II being too plasticy(lol), I will snap the plastic pieces from the back cover of the sensation and shove them in their mouth. Outside of the little center piece, construction material is very similar
Now to the device performance. It was sad to see the device run so slowly with the sense overlay. Maybe i spent too much time with the GS II but it's very noticeable. I even asked the store rep when the device was rebooted and she said earlier today I don't think i rebooted my GSII since the reflash to KE2 from KE7. When i handed her my phone to the rep while i played with the sensation, she said the samething about the quickness of the device.
I enjoyed the sense in the old days of winmo but now it just seems overly complicated. On my captivate, i ran the stock android launcher over TW3 and TW4 was pretty refreshing until i ran into a few limitations and swapped it out with LP.
There are many more things needing comparison but that would happen soon when i recommend the sensation for my co-worker who's using TMO.
Edit: Screen was pretty decent. It wasn't as bad as some of the review said it was but it wasn't great either. Also the web browser and TMO service ran pretty smoothly but it did choke slightly during the scroll while browsing engadget
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Got mine in the hype of the "early" release by wally mart. Being an avid N1 user since inception, and trying different roms and settling on the stock MIUI roms I must say the Sense 3.0 is a refreshing change IMO. Don't get me wrong, once MIUI can get this I'm all over it LOL....
As for the plus side of things, I do like the Sense launcher. It works for me and how it should. The screen is a little longer than my N1 but I do like it's display. The heft to the phone is great. The feel for the phone feels just sexy in my hand. Wifi connects for me and as for the 4g speeds....it really depends where you are, period. But generally where I had 3g+ in the office, I get 3 bars of 4g. Calls connect without an issue on the network, but the wifi calling which uses minutes as well works well but sounds very low in speakerphone mode. Another cool thing is that the wifi calling featured, when enabled turns automagically on everytime a wifi connection is established. It may be annoying to some, but I like it. You can disable it at any time.
As the negatives go, I would say the s-on. I know its all about timing but they should have gotten something out in a form of a small update either to download or OTA to unlock the thing. Another thing is the volume levels. Ringtone and speaker is low. I am guessing rooting can solve some of the volume issues. Another thing I am missing that the N1 has is the screen off animation. Cosmetic yes, but that's what made GB, GB IMO. As for 4g connection, and speeds, I am happy with it, but I hear it's more quicker on other 4g devices.
Bottom line, is it a good upgrade from a Nexus One? Yes IMO, once it's rooted, this thing will indeed become a beast.

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