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Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?
Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.
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Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.
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1. That's a bummer
2. And how long can your phone last with GPS, BT and LTE connected?
3. Good to know! And what about the selfie camera?
4. No problem.
Overall, would you recommend this phone?
2. With my usage all day. In the evening when I'm going to sleep I put on charge.
latouffe said:
Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?
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Hello friend, I have the Note 20 Ultra (ex990) and I will try to clarify your doubts a bit:
1: The note 20 Ultra has VRR but at 1080p, it varies between 48hz-120hz, the way it works is as simple as if you don't touch the screen for 3s, it lowers the frequency normally to 60hz, from my point of view could have been implemented better...
2: I've had the S20 Ultra for 6 months as well, and I can tell you that I didn't notice any big difference in battery life, the S20U lasts a bit longer in certain situations (idle for example) but the difference isn't noticeable. The battery in general with the 990 ranges between 4h and 6.5h SOT at 120hz, and 5.5h and 8h at 60hz 2K.
3: I would like to say that the rear camera of the Note 20U seems much better to me because they fixed the problems that the S20U had, the selfie camera is definitely better in the S20U, but both are so good that it should not be a determining aspect.
4: The 3.5mm connector is doomed to disappear but Samsung includes a 3.5mm to USB-C adapter, it is a useful solution if you want to continue using your wired headphones, it is also worth noting that in Europe it includes very good quality AKG headphones in the box (USB-C).
The 13 pro max has been getting universal accolades for its incredible SOT and 2-3 day battery life. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the new S22 Ultra with its new LTPO efficient display should wipe the floor with the 13 Pro Max.
What's everybody's expectation? Will the S22 Ultra finally close the gap and maybe even exceed it or are we doomed to constantly debloating and finding that one hidden Samsung or google feature/ app that keeps sucking the juice from our phone endlessly?
I can't wait to get my hands on my S22 Ultra. I currently have an iPhone 13 Pro Max which is awesome battery wise. I wish I could keep the iPhone for comparisons but Im using it for trade in value. I will add my notes and comparisons as soon as I have it
dj24 said:
The 13 pro max has been getting universal accolades for its 2-3 day SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the new S22 Ultra with its new LTPO efficient display should wipe the floor with the 13 Pro Max.
What's everybody's expectation? Will the S22 Ultra finally close the gap and maybe even exceed it or are we doomed to constantly debloating and finding that one hidden Samsung or google feature/ app that keeps sucking the juice from our phone endlessly?
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lol, 2 to 3 day SOT? That's literally not possible.
eaoosa said:
lol, 2 to 3 day SOT? That's literally not possible.
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Lol. You're right. I meant 2-3 days of battery life. Edited my post.
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Lol. You're right. I meant 2-3 days of battery life. Edited my post.
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Yes, credit where credit is due. Apple has fantastic battery life. But I'd say for most people it's around a day and a half which is still incredible. The only downside is... well its Apple and were missing out on a lot of features from the Galaxy. Looking forward to the Ultras battery review.
Reviews for the S22 Ultra are starting to trickle in and battery life is surprisingly disappointing even just comparing it to last year's S21 Ultra. Suffice to say it will not get anywhere close to the 13 Pro Max.
Galaxy S22 Ultra battery life can’t match iPhone 13 Pro Max
A Galaxy S22 Ultra battery life test shows the new Samsung flagship is no match for the iPhone 13 Pro Max - or the S21 Ultra.
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This is truly disappointing since I remember Samsung was trolling iPhone users a few years back in their ads calling them 'wall huggers' and telling them to make the switch. How times have changed..
There is no doubt about the optimization in iPhone due to A15 chip and as some Youtubers call it, black magic on the battery by Apple, we tend to overlook the fact that iOS absolutely freezes background tasks and that's one big disadvantage when you want to upload media in the background and browse some websites. Another factor is fast charging, with the iP13PM taking almost 2 hours to charge to 100% v/s S22U taking an hour. I'd rather go with a phone that can multitask and top up faster that a restrictive and dated OS.
linom said:
There is no doubt about the optimization in iPhone due to A15 chip and as some Youtubers call it, black magic on the battery by Apple, we tend to overlook the fact that iOS absolutely freezes background tasks and that's one big disadvantage when you want to upload media in the background and browse some websites. Another factor is fast charging, with the iP13PM taking almost 2 hours to charge to 100% v/s S22U taking an hour. I'd rather go with a phone that can multitask and top up faster that a restrictive and dated OS.
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Thanks for sharing that. The first one is slightly concerning especially if that's the same case for downloading and not just for uploading as well. My N20 Ultra takes about 2 hours from completely dead to full status which doesn't bother me since I prefer slow charging instead to lengthen its battery life (I know that's not really true but I've convinced myself that )
My go to source for battery life reviews is gsmarena. They're currently reviewing it and depending on the outcome I'll decide what I'll do. My order from Feb 10 still shows as pending and if the review posts first and the results are disappointing, I'll cancel my order. If it ships, I'll most likely keep it since Samsung is giving me a more than fair value for my N20 Ultra and trade it in for the hopefully notchless upcoming 14 Pro Max.
I'll let fate decide
Also bear in mind that the last Note (N20 Ultra) SD variant had almost 1 hour longer SOT/ better camera pics/ better heat management compared to its Exynos counterpart (multiple reviews confirmed this including mrwhosetheboss).
A decent custom kernel may help boost SOT/ standby time (e.g. arter97 kernel for my OnePlus 7T Pro did wonders).
I love the flat display of the S22+ but is there any alternative which may be even better?
Shouldn't be bigger than 6.6".
It seems to me that battery life and selfie cam in the S22+ are not very good.
Right now I'm on S21 Ultra which is awesome but too big for all day use. It's really sad that I will have to downgrade display resolution so heavily by just going down 0.2 inches.
Hello!
I have bought my S20+ 2 years ago and I'm thinking about upgrading to the S22 Ultra, both being Exynos variants. I usually keep my phone 2 years, but unfortunately when I bought my S20+ 4G I didn't think at the time that 5G was going to be deployed this quickly so I didn't pay extra for it.
So I'm looking for a 5G phone I could use for social media and media consumption (shows, films, YouTube), as the display is apparently good, and has good cameras. This time I'll try to go for 3 years with it, since we'll get software updates for longer.
As of today, how's the battery life on the Ultra Exynos? I've heard that some recent update improved it quite a lot. I don't play games at all on mobile or do some crazy video editing stuff, if that helps.
So, do you think it'll be a decent upgrade? Although I've never used an S-Pen, I'm confident I'll enjoy it. I'm not looking for other recommendations.
I used a s20 and upgraded to s21 ultra and now the s22 ultra. I really enjoy the phone. Everything feels and look better than the s20. For me it is a definite upgrade from the s20 to s22. The streaming stuff looks great on the display. The only issue I have is the battery life could be better. It's not bad, but not great. Heavy use I get a day of battery life, moderate use 1.5 days...sot between 4 to 6 hours...depending on usage. Battery lasts 24 to 36 hours...sound is basically same loudness as s21 and s20...quality of sounda bit better. I know some people have some issues with exonys...I have a snapdragon. There was some updates that took away a lot off the bugs. Camera and video is good...now light is a big improvement over the s20...my only real issue is fhd 60 fps videos appear very soft. 4k looks great
I would echo @termdj experience about general feel of s22u
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Would you consider the battery to be better than the S20+? I don't know if battery-wise there's a big difference between SD and Exynos.
Compared to the s20 it is better. With the same usage I got 3 to 4 hours sot and the battery lasted max 24 hours on moderate use on the s20.
Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
I'd say wait for the s23.
As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
I'd say I love Samsung hardware but I'm not huge fan of OneUI. If Samsung release ever like Google Play edition of Galaxy S22 Ultra, Note design then it will be best device for long term.
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I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
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The battery hate is because there are so many devices that do so much better. Also sometimes the phone just decides to start using way more battery than previous trends doing the same things it was doing before.
Sure but it's a mixed bag with different experiences per user. My psp7 runs about 50% longer than my Note 20 ultra with the same kind of usage.
P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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This is a fact! With the stock Kernel, I was using CPU Mintor daily to check my temps which typically ran above 30 C. Usually in the mid-30's. Over 40 when charging.
With the Kirasakura I usually run about 26-28 C.
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As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
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Stay away from it for now!I just purchased one myself,and sent it back because it overheats like crazy!Don't get me wrong,the performance is there but that face burning battery was enough for me...lol
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Well the S23 Ultra is using Snapdragon chips worldwide and the TSMC-produced 8 Gen 2 is looking like an efficiency beast. I hear you on the Samsung UI and I'm also not too excited to lose root but the S23 Ultra could be a great device to jump to if people are tired of being tied to the charger with the Pixel (both due to the slow charging speed and the poor battery endurance on mobile data, particularly 5G). Samsung also always saves the best displays for themselves.
I have a S22 plus and just got the Pixel 7 Pro on sale.
Obviously the Ultra is a lot different than the plus. I have no need for a spen on a phone. I am not a fan of curved screens either but I took a gamble because of the sale price and I really like vanilla android.
The text to speech is pretty amazing. The screen is also nicer than the S22 plus stuck at 1080p.
Battery life right out the box and installing and updating and syncing seems pretty good so far. Definitely better than my S22 plus.
I think the big difference is cost. The Ultra even with a recent trade in is almost as expensive as this device is on sale with no trade. That is a pretty significant factor to me.
The s23 Ultra will be a better phone no doubt. Samsung has the hardware on lock and the new 8 gen 2 even on Samsung fab should be a pretty significant upgrade.
However Google works magic with Pixel phones and slower processors so I don't think there will be a big difference in day to day use.
It really depends what you prioritize and like best. If you like OneUI and the absolute best hardware then hands down get the Samsung. Samsung Galaxy devices are some of the best and if the S22 plus had quad hd I might say get that instead but with the better screen and bigger battery the Ultra is best.
However if you like Google services, great AI features, decent camera, fast updates and good battery life and cost is a factor then the Pixel is a really great choice.
Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Is that S21 Ultra on Exynos or Snapdragon? For me in the UK on Exynos, the S21 Ultra absolutely did not have superior battery life to what I get on the P7P. And various reports I saw at the time said that, whilst the Snapdragon S21 Ultra was the better phone for performance, for battery life the Exynos was better. Although I can't confirm as I never had the SD variant.
The Snapdragon S21 Ultra perhaps has the best battery life of any mainstream Android device, closely followed by the S22 Ultra then the Pixel 7 Pro. It could be that the S22 Ultra being on Verizon and the S21 Ultra being on T-Mobile played a role. The 7 Pro is a good improvement over the 6 Pro battery wise.