After going through all the settings and unsuccessfully following general guides on here, I finally narrowed down five things that significantly reduced the lag on this phone. (As in... I actually enjoy using the phone now.) Thought I'd share them here.
1: Install and default Nova launcher. Clear memory of One UI home app
2: Replace stock keyboard with google keyboard. Adjust the vibrations so that they feel good. (41 worked for me)
3: Turn off "Put unused apps to sleep" in [Battery and device care > battery > power saving]
4: Turn off "Adaptive battery" in [Battery and device care > battery > more battery settings]
5: Disable "Edge panels" under display options.
That's it!
Optional: Enable dev options and set the first two animation speeds to 0.5
Nova launcher was never faster then One UI, unless Samsung managed to screw that up too.
A lot of fail coming out of Samsung lately.
Adaptive battery, etc never worked.
Optimized power setting is probably a better more well rounded setting selection.
After turning off the global power junk you need to track down the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis for optimum optimization.
I'm not sure about the adaptive battery mode. A few additional things you could do is disable battery hogs like Bixby and multiple services like google and google assistant which serve no purpose. If you are rooted, you can disable them effortlessly. In my opinion, samsung apps are very well optimized for one ui. I wouldn't replace them. Instead, I will disable all the junk apps and just use the dedicated samsung apps for smooth and consistent experience.
I manually uninstalled or disabled all the garbage I possibly could that was pre-installed on my Straight Talk A53 - and there's a lot. I set the refresh rate to 60 (120 is nice to have BUT is a battery drain). I also used ADB to set virtual RAM to zero as suggested. I'd love to know more commands to get rid of **** I'll never use and will never need and can't disable: like AR, device pulse & anything else that's useless that I can safely remove from the system. The phone isn't as laggy for me as the A51 was. I'm content with it, and you've got to admit it does have a nice punchy vibrant screen. It actually runs Candy Crush smoother than my iPhone 13, and that's about as hardcore as I game.
One UI shouldn't lag at all. It's normally quit snappy at least with Android 9 and 10. Lagging is a potential sign of system instability, often the only warning you'll get before a boot loop. Try in safe mode and see how it's running. If it runs well in safe mode a 3rd party app(s) is likely gumming it up. Get rid of all social media trashware and shopping apps on the phone.
Also clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Clear app caches; SD Maid does a good job at this and deep cleaning on a stock Samsung.
The biggest one to make your phone feel faster (works with pretty much every android phone), is to enable developer settings and scrolling down to the screen animation section. There you can set the animation speeds. There are three different settings which you could change. I always put all three of them to 0.5x instead of the default 1x. This makes your phone feel way faster, because it actually performs the animations faster. The appdrawer will open up faster etc. You could give it a go. I actually swear by it. Works amazing.
JulesMarcus1234 said:
The biggest one to make your phone feel faster (works with pretty much every android phone), is to enable developer settings and scrolling down to the screen animation section. There you can set the animation speeds. There are three different settings which you could change. I always put all three of them to 0.5x instead of the default 1x. This makes your phone feel way faster, because it actually performs the animations faster. The appdrawer will open up faster etc. You could give it a go. I actually swear by it. Works amazing.
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Turn off all animations. See what you got.
I never use them; a waste of resources and irritating especially if the phone really is fast.
blackhawk said:
Turn off all animations. See what you got.
I never use them; a waste of resources and irritating especially if the phone really is fast.
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I find it looks more polished at 0.5X. Not slow, not nothing, just right. For me The UI is just too abrupt shutting them off entirely. Personal preference.
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I find it looks more polished at 0.5X. Not slow, not nothing, just right. For me The UI is just too abrupt shutting them off entirely. Personal preference.
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I've tried that but still prefer to see the raw speed.
It also helps you see any lag that indicates a problem. Best to nip anything like that in the bud. Slower phones need something to try and hide the lag, the N10+ doesn't have that issue. It's the first Note that brought some real punch to the mix.
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I've tried that but still prefer to see the raw speed.
It also helps you see any lag that indicates a problem. Best to nip anything like that in the bud. Slower phones need something to try and hide the lag, the N10+ doesn't have that issue. It's the first Note that brought some real punch to the mix.
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But the Exynos 1280 isn't a slow SOC, just not optimized. It beats the SD 695G in most benchmarks, yet my Nord N20 beats the $#*t out of it. I think it needs optimizing.
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But the Exynos 1280 isn't a slow SOC, just not optimized. It beats the SD 695G in most benchmarks, yet my Nord N20 beats the $#*t out of it. I think it needs optimizing.
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A fast phone is like love, no test can tell you, you just know it's fast, through and through, to the bone
All Samsung's should be optimized. This N10+ was a hot running mess of a battery hog. Hard to believe it's the same now fast, cool running phone after I optimized it.
Optimizing them has a steep learning curve but it's easy once you think it though.
Once optimized and running well don't upgrade or update the firmware. I don't allow apps, especially Samsung apps to update... updates can and do break things. DO Not update the firmware on Buds+ etc if they sound and work well. Had a firmware update screw up my one pair. Have 2 new pairs still on factory loaded firmware that sound great, like the first pair did before the "improved" firmware. Typical Samsung bs...
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Hi, I'm not really happy about my Moto G LTE performance.
I keep reading everywhere that it's very smooth but this is not the case for me.
I notice quite a lot of scrolling slowing/lagging in almost all apps (even sometimes in the UI menus) I don't have any 3rd application installed (just WhatsApp) and completely stock 4.4.4.
For example, when I scroll through a Whatsapp group chat there are some little jitters, Scrolling the notification drawer lags almost every time but depends on the currently active app. If Chrome is active with some desktop site it can lag very badly.
Chrome performance are quite nice but again, random hiccups for no visible reason.
Interesting thing is that the lags are very random, It sometimes goes away by itself and gets back.
Tried deleting cache partition, tried factory reset, not working. I do notice improvement if I'm on WiFi and not HSPA/LTE.
I tried checking my CPU usage under Developer options and the load average for the system is never going down from 16. Even if I'm in airplane mode with no activity. Do you think it has something to do with my slowness? I'm quite familiar with Linux systems and know that 16 is extremely high for any desktop/server. Is android the same case or this loads are normal?
https://i.imgur.com/vam1Dx2.png
Also here is a screenshot of "Profile GPU rendering -> show as lines" under developer settings when scrolling in whatsapp.
http://i.imgur.com/t1BTNPQ.png
As you can see the framerate is not stable at all and many lags occur.
Would appreciate if someone could check his results with the profile GPU rendering and tell me if it's the same or much better.
Any help will be welcome, Thanks!
I got a little slow down but nothing mayor..howewer you can look my test in arr
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Are you in the stock or custom rom?
I notice very diffirent performance in many roms. The worst was the stock 4.4.4 of my company (with all the **** of Movistar) and the actuals versions of lollipop...
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So, Sense has always been this way for a while (the HTC EVO 4G LTE was the worst of them all), and I see that the U11 with *almost stock* software and 4GB of RAM is not enough for it to keep a few more apps in the background.
This is bothersome when trying to play games that start over every time that I switch to another app! Even XDA just restarted and I lost half of this post that I was writing. I don't actually see it as a bug or faulty software...just very aggressive RAM management.
Is there any solution to this? Do custom ROMS even solve this issue?
+1, I'd also like to see how to make the RAM management less aggressive. Right now when I play a game, then switch to Chrome, Facebook, or even just public transport timetables app and then go back, game usually starts over. I thought 4 GB of RAM would be enough to have two games loaded, apparently not
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+1, I'd also like to see how to make the RAM management less aggressive. Right now when I play a game, then switch to Chrome, Facebook, or even just public transport timetables app and then go back, game usually starts over. I thought 4 GB of RAM would be enough to have two games loaded, apparently not
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I don't think that the 4GB of RAM is to blame. There is no justification for closing a game to send a TEXT! I think that they just try to keep as much RAM available at all times, at the cost of convenience.
Boost+ enabled,?
Yeah I think it's the boost+ app. Uninstall it and check. I don't use it and I just launched 25apps and none of them reloads.
Update: hmmm actually they started reloading after 3 mins. Not all of them but half. Wierd. I don't mind though as long as the battery stays like this.
In boost+ I don't allow the background optimizer to kick in in less than 3 days on apps I want to run in background, so that's probably not it.
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In boost+ I don't allow the background optimizer to kick in in less than 3 days on apps I want to run in background, so that's probably not it.
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Neither do I. Even coming from a fresh install and rejecting Boost+, the Task Killer is still aggressive.
I think that it depends on the OOM settings (I think that is the correct acronym...haven't dealt with those for a WHILE....).
I was getting frustrated with a lot of my apps pretty much closing every time I backed out of them causing me to have a huge delay in getting notifications as a best case scenario, and sometimes not getting any at all unless I actually opened the app again, Facebook/Messenger being the biggest culprits, but many others too.
Looking in Settings/Power/Battery Optimization I found that nearly all my apps say they are being optimized. I've never used Boost+ so it seems they have defaulted to this. After toggling a few apps to Not Optimized I've found that these apps no longer close and need to reload when I back out, and notifications come through in a timely manner. Battery life seems unaffected, I still easily get through a day and have at least 50% remaining at bed time. Might be worth looking at
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I was getting frustrated with a lot of my apps pretty much closing every time I backed out of them causing me to have a huge delay in getting notifications as a best case scenario, and sometimes not getting any at all unless I actually opened the app again, Facebook/Messenger being the biggest culprits, but many others too.
Looking in Settings/Power/Battery Optimization I found that nearly all my apps say they are being optimized. I've never used Boost+ so it seems they have defaulted to this. After toggling a few apps to Not Optimized I've found that these apps no longer close and need to reload when I back out, and notifications come through in a timely manner. Battery life seems unaffected, I still easily get through a day and have at least 50% remaining at bed time. Might be worth looking at
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Bro....thank...you! This definitely made a difference so far.... I'll pay attention to see if it makes a big difference in the long run...
Testing as well, thanks! It doesn't seem connected to Boost+ and appears all my apps are optimized by default - even those I never ran on this phone.
Yeah it had me stumped at first but I noticed it last week and changed it then and have had no problems since. Hopefully it sorts it for you too
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Yeah it had me stumped at first but I noticed it last week and changed it then and have had no problems since. Hopefully it sorts it for you too
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Still restarting apps quicker than I prefer, but much better. Thanks!
The problem is android and how it handles apps. If you want to switch apps then use the recents list to use the multi app function (splitscreen).
Beamed in by telepathy.
I've had my U11 (64/4 variant) for a month now. I'm satisfied with it in general, but I've noticed something really peculiar.
In the first days, my U11 was extremely snappy and fast (opening applications, opening the camera, unlocking the screen, and so forth). However, after using it for a week, I noticed a strange phenomenon: the general speed of my phone was changing all the time. I mean, sometimes, I had to wait approximately 2 seconds for Gmail to load & display my inbox, while sometimes I just tapped on Gmail and it loaded & displayed my inbox almost instantly. (No, Gmail wasn't in the RAM in the latter case...)
It's still happening and I'm not happy about it because I ditched my S7 due to Samsung's tacky and laggy TouchWiz (I heard that it had been renamed, but I don't really care). Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that SenseUI is laggy and tacky because I love it and I haven't even experienced a slight lag since I had this phone, but the unpredictable speed of my phone is irritating a little bit. By the way, the same goes for the camera (stock application): sometimes, it takes quite long for the camera to load & be ready, while sometimes it doesn't even take a second.
More than 90% of the storage is free and more than 50% of the RAM is free most of the time.
What do I do? Shall I perform a factory reset? As I've mentioned, I'm using the stock ROM and I want to do so in the future, too as I've got used to it.
Htc Boost+ app. If you dont have it get it. If you do have it then check the foreground and background restrictions.
If you're using any apps from 3rd parties that control apps and ram, remove them. Android has it's own app killer and boost+ will do the rest according to how you use the phone.
Signal clarity is also a huge player in the speed of today's devices. If you have a weak wifi or cell signal then the phone has to wait for the data transfer so server connections will suffer, hence why you experience intermittent slow loading.
The camera may take a while because of not being in background or if other apps are consuming resources. Also the more you use an app the quicker it should open as android 'should' hold the app in ram, if theres enough room.
Hope this helps clarify.
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Htc Boost+ app. If you dont have it get it. If you do have it then check the foreground and background restrictions.
If you're using any apps from 3rd parties that control apps and ram, remove them. Android has it's own app killer and boost+ will do the rest according to how you use the phone.
Signal clarity is also a huge player in the speed of today's devices. If you have a weak wifi or cell signal then the phone has to wait for the data transfer so server connections will suffer, hence why you experience intermittent slow loading.
The camera may take a while because of not being in background or if other apps are consuming resources. Also the more you use an app the quicker it should open as android 'should' hold the app in ram, if theres enough room.
Hope this helps clarify.
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Thanks for your reply. I had already used the Boost+ before I posted this thread. I deleted a few apps that I hadn't really used, and now I don't have any problems with my phone as far as speed is concerned.
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
This issue goes way back. Even my 10+ does it.
Might have to do with the sensor refresh rate and/or degree of tilt/time at tilt/yaw.
If it takes more then a second there's definitely a fault issue.
Mmh. Actually I didn't recognize this when using my S20 with 120hz. At least not that much. So there's nothing that can improve the experience? I even thought the phone didn't have this behavior from the start which led to the question if I have something fishy installed. But there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's the same when using stock launcher or Ruthless launcher.
Be interested if there was a way to make it more responsive. This aspect of the device's behavior is slow by comparison to it's otherwise snappy performance. It is irritating... I hate waiting.
It's about .5-1 second on the N10+ in Brave browser and elsewhere.
I'm going to go through accessibility settings again. It's likely a user hidden setting though.
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Yeap, no joy
KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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What I'm talking about is how long it takes to flip the screen to landscape once the phone's flipped. Close to 1 second.
I always disable all animations as it wastes resources plus I like the snap.
Lol, if it needs animations, it's too slow.
Cris7ianO said:
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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No, I don't really use split screen apps. Hopefully an update will help. The device definitely has some obvious tradeoffs but in general it feels fresh and I really like it.
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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I tried this app and I am not fully satisfied with the outcome. Of course forcing 120hz will train the small battery even more and I don't want to be dependant on a 3rd party solution. Just to confirm the behavior is not only on my end, can you please test the following on your device?
1. Go to developer options and enable show refresh rate
2. Go in following apps: e.g. Whatsapp, Facebook, Google Play, Samsung Internet, Amazon Shopping (cause I don't face this issue on all apps)
3. In each app wait a few seconds four the refresh rate to go down to 60 and then rotate the screen (In my case the refresh rate stays at 60 when rotating in the mentioned apps and this looks horrible when the rest is running on 120hz)
If you could borrow a few minutes of your time to check that would be awesome and is very appreciated Thanks in advance!
Update: Just to be sure I did a factory reset. Still no improvement...
Further investigation gave me more information. There is something weird going on. When display brightness is low (around 10-15%) there is no issue for the phone keeping 120 while rotating. When I go up in brightness the 60hz rotation is back again. This is horrible. I've had a look on the new iPhone 13 pro and Apple doesn't have these issues with their adaptive screen. As I had the S20 before and skipped the s21 with the adaptive one this Flip is my first Samsung device with an adaptive screen. The experience is horrible. I just want a compact android device without such a compromise. This is ridiculous.
Hey all, I've had my G7 Power for about 2 years and in the last year or so I have been super frustrated with the handling of background processes, etc.
It can hardly hold a background process. The two worst offenders for me are:
It will kill my music app almost instantly after pausing. This is exceedingly frustrating when an app mutes all other audio and it instantly kills my music.
It will kill my browser when I go to search for a file to upload (for example if I go to upload a PDF to a website I can't because the website has to reload when I come back from finding the file).
In an attempt to solve this I moved from stock to LOS 18.1 and rooted. This was perhaps marginally better, but still overall terrible.
The other day I used this Magisk module to enable the low_ram flag, as well as disabled the Google app (which despite always always hogging RAM also loved to close in the background), which actually kinda solved my problem. It is still not perfect, and I had to find a new weather app, but it's acceptable. HOWEVER, I learned that I cannot use messages for web with this flag on (really Google????), which is kind of a dealbreaker for me.
I happily used stock ROMs on my phones for the last few years and would rather not spend my time making my phone with 3GB of RAM work worse than my older phones that ran MM on 1GB just fine. Any suggestions? Should I go back to Android 9 and never update? I can't even remember if it was better but it seems like it might be.