I've been searching for a relatively easy and cheap way to do this. It's ridiculous having 2 SIM slots but both are locked to the same network.
If this is still allowed by law in your country, there is nothing you can do about it.
The only thing you can do is ask the seller-operator of your network where you bought the phone to unlock the second sim port for you. Maybe he is not so greedy and will allow it.
If your phone was repurchased from an individual, then there is a bigger problem, because you are not the formal purchaser.
Thank you but i already ask the network about it and being a greedy company, said, i had to wait after 2 years before they would send me the unlock code. I got pissed and had my line disconnected after this as i find it really annoying to lock both sim slots, kinda defeats the purpose of a dual sim phone IMO.
Wait, I don't understand something. If you bought a phone from an operator, you have to fulfill the contract and pay for the service 2 years to pay off the phone. Is that right?
If so, what is the point of disconnecting from the line?
Because we talk about the so-called "SIM unlock" all the time, correct?
SIM lock, this is a service that blocks the phone from using sim cards other than from the network operator where you bought the phone.
Not to my knowledge, but if you ever get a new phone make sure it's not from a carrier, and instead from the manufacturer or a tech store.
Thank you guys. Solved the problem, carrier unlocked SIM2.
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So are all verizon Rhodium phones CDMA with GSM only when out of country?
Which meaning at the moment have no HARD-spl and are able to flash?
I've added some custom apps to my phone which is from verizon and is not flashed. So i was just curious.
Thanks,
Alfredo
SlashX1896 said:
So are all verizon Rhodium phones CDMA with GSM only when out of country?
Which meaning at the moment have no HARD-spl and are able to flash?
I've added some custom apps to my phone which is from verizon and is not flashed. So i was just curious.
Thanks,
Alfredo
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If you call Verizon (and have their service for awhile, in good standing) they will guide you to unlocking the SIM slot 'for use outside of the country'. Once unlocked, it will work with TMobile, AT&T and any other GSM provider in the US that doesn't do IMEI checking, or that allow the TP2 on their network, in which IMEI checking wouldn't be a problem.
Anyways, get the unlock code for your device (specific to your device) from Verizon, scroll to SETTINGS on the homescreen, click ALL SETTINGS, click PERSONAL, click SECURITY and enter the unlock code they gave you and your phone will SIM unlock itself.
As for Hard-SPL, I haven't seen anything about it yet.. but I haven't been searching, since the phone already does what I'd like it to with simple cab installs.
I hope this helps!
-mak
Yeah ive had verizon for a good amount of years now. So i might give that a try. and yeah. I agree about hard SPL.
Are there any other advantages to unlocking the sim card other then being able to change services?
I am still new with all this, and unaware the advantages of unlocking the SIM card.
Curious for In Country and Out of country.
Like what are benefits of it while still in the states?
and what are the benefits if i go to canada? does this mean i don't have to pay extra for the plan while in canada to make phonecalls/texts/data?
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Anyways, get the unlock code for your device (specific to your device) from Verizon, scroll to SETTINGS on the homescreen, click ALL SETTINGS, click PERSONAL, click SECURITY and enter the unlock code they gave you and your phone will SIM unlock itself.
-mak
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I believe you may be incorrect on that, check this out, I have yet to verify this my self but from what I have read here and other places the GSM will be unlocked for use overseas. This way you can use another country's SIM card instead of Verizon's SIM (expensive rates) while overseas for an extended period of time.
There are now several threads in several forums about this.
What people often leave out when they talk about what their phone can do is what carrier they have it on.
With Verizon, when you SIM Unlock the phone you can toss in any SIM and it'll work. I personally have a UK SIM and works fine in the US on my Verizon TP2 unlocked. Others have reported using TMobile (US) or AT&T (US) SIM's just fine in their Verizon TP2's after unlocking.
Sprint TP2's come unlocked but will NOT register at all on US carriers (even with a foreign SIM).
--Chris
Oh so i have to somehow get a hold of another sim card?
nowwww i get it.
so unless i plan on actually going out of country there really is no point in unlocking my phone.
SlashX1896 said:
Oh so i have to somehow get a hold of another sim card?
nowwww i get it.
so unless i plan on actually going out of country there really is no point in unlocking my phone.
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I unlocked mine, just in case I ever decide to leave Verizon to go to Tmobile or AT&T (yeah, right lol).. or for when I upgrade, it makes it more universal when it comes time to sell it.
It costs you nothing if you're a Verizon customer in good standing, I'd unlock it just in case
-mak
Yeah good point. I was more curious on flashing purposes, but TBH i have no use to flash it. Though once the markeplace comes out, im assuming its going to be like the iphones appstore? and hoping in time we find ways to "jailbreak" or something to get them free, thats always fun lol.
Now i do travel to canada a lot. But unlocking it has no use unless i actually pay for the plan and a sim card? I know verizon offers a plan for it, but i dont got that much to where il pay extra for the plan was just curious.
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Now i do travel to canada a lot. But unlocking it has no use unless i actually pay for the plan and a sim card? I know verizon offers a plan for it, but i dont got that much to where il pay extra for the plan was just curious.
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some folks over at PPCGeeks pointed out that in some situations, it might be cheaper to just buy a prepaid sim card when traveling abroad, as the prepaid cards could prove to be a cheaper alternative to verizon's international roaming rates through verizon's sim card, included with the Rhodium.
Alright, thanks i'll look into that.
the problem with going to canada is the sim card has nothing to do with their network. it is still CDMA in canada and while you may have an unlocked phone and different sim card, verizons network will still pick up your phone and charge you accordingly.
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the problem with going to canada is the sim card has nothing to do with their network. it is still CDMA in canada and while you may have an unlocked phone and different sim card, verizons network will still pick up your phone and charge you accordingly.
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If you have an unlocked phone and a different SIM card in, if you set it to GSM mode Verizon won't/can't charge you for using it in Canada.
Hope thatyour right iamrobk, elsewise im confused.
Having suffered through Verizon's strange attitude towards GPS, Bluetooth, etc, etc, over the years, I have to say: I take it all back!
Well, at least most of it.
For those who don't know, the SIM card on the TP2 is locked to only function out of the U.S. However, if you want to travel overseas and use a foreign purchased SIM card, the phone will not work unless unlocked. So what do you do?
You call Verizon and tell them of your plans to travel overseas and use a third-party SIM card. They will issue an unlock code and voila! The SIM slot is now unlocked for overseas cards (and apparently U.S. cards too.) I'm sure this is old news to everyone, but I went ahead and had it done tonight and there were no questions asked.
Though, I do wonder, do you actually have to register the Verizon SIM card for each country you visit? The global support person wanted to reg my SIM for the UK (where I may visit) but I thought it would work without having to do anything before hand.
With GPS that locks in seconds and a $100 price tag for the phone after rebate, I really have to take it all back about Verizon. And it could be a lot worse: I could be in the Bay Area with an AT&T-based iPhone!
Heh, from my experience with verizon you will call their tech support at one location and they will tell you it can be done, but then they'll take forever and your call will get dropped. Then you will spend 2-3 hours calling tech support until you don't get a thumbhead on the other line. The first few will tell you that verizon doesn't use a sim card, then another will say that you have to do that on the website. Eventually you will luck into getting connected to a good call center where they will fix you up in 5 minutes.
Thanks for the info though! I will definitely do this when I'm drunk enough to handle tech support. =)
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Heh, from my experience with verizon you will call their tech support at one location and they will tell you it can be done, but then they'll take forever and your call will get dropped. Then you will spend 2-3 hours calling tech support until you don't get a thumbhead on the other line. The first few will tell you that verizon doesn't use a sim card, then another will say that you have to do that on the website. Eventually you will luck into getting connected to a good call center where they will fix you up in 5 minutes.
Thanks for the info though! I will definitely do this when I'm drunk enough to handle tech support. =)
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Based on your comment, you're not asking Tech. Support to connect you to Global Support, which are the only ones who can issue you the unlock code for phones that are GSM-enabled.
Anyone who has used Tech. Support to unlock their GSM-enabled phone has waited on hold for so long because the tech. contacted Global Support for the unlock code.. next time, bypass the wait and ask to be connected directly to Global Support
I've never had to wait or jump through a hoop to get my unlock codes. I always say (word for word) "I want to SIM unlock my phone". They then ask me if I'm traveling overseas and I say "Sure", I'm then given the code and instructions on how to SIM unlock it, after they've emailed me the TOS for this service.
-mak
VZW general tech support doesn't deal with sim cards at all. VZW hasn't had many Quad band global phones and definitely has not had them for much time. Go to global support for accurate information and knowledgable reps (for GSM/Global related info), otherwise it will be a crapshoot if the person you gets has any idea of what you are talking about, 99% of what they normally deal with has no sim card at all.
I bought the unlock code for my Fuze online. I do not have a non-AT&T sim and do not want to remove and re-insert my SIM.
Does anyone who's previously received an unlock code from AT&T provide me their instructions on how to apply the unlock code?
In my previous devices AT&T provide me a string of numbers/symbols plus the subsidy unlock code.
Thanks for the help.
the first step is to get the unlock code, easiest is to call them and tell them that you are travelling overseas and will need to use a local provider. you'll also need a sim card from another GSM provider, i don't think there is a way around this. you turn off the phone, then insert the other sim card, then start it, the phone will ask you to provide the unlock code.
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the first step is to get the unlock code, easiest is to call them and tell them that you are travelling overseas and will need to use a local provider. you'll also need a sim card from another GSM provider, i don't think there is a way around this. you turn off the phone, then insert the other sim card, then start it, the phone will ask you to provide the unlock code.
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I got my Fuze from AT&T before they made the mandatory 'data plan on ALL smartphones' went into effect. I bought my unlock code from eBay. I want to enter the code without having to use a non-AT&T sim card. From various boards it seems like taking the sim out, using a different sim, and then going back to the original sim would somehow tag the smartphone as needing the data plan. So bottom line is that I want to avoid AT&T's bullsh*t data requirements/policies.
On my Nokias I would enter a string of symbols with the unlock code on the dialpad and the phone is unlocked.
I wanted to get the instructions from Fuze users who called into AT&T and got the unlock code. What were the AT&T instructions? Would AT&T tell users to insert a non-AT&T sim just to unlock?
This board has been extremely helpful and I appreciate all the help.
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I got my Fuze from AT&T before they made the mandatory 'data plan on ALL smartphones' went into effect. I bought my unlock code from eBay. I want to enter the code without having to use a non-AT&T sim card. From various boards it seems like taking the sim out, using a different sim, and then going back to the original sim would somehow tag the smartphone as needing the data plan. So bottom line is that I want to avoid AT&T's bullsh*t data requirements/policies.
On my Nokias I would enter a string of symbols with the unlock code on the dialpad and the phone is unlocked.
I wanted to get the instructions from Fuze users who called into AT&T and got the unlock code. What were the AT&T instructions? Would AT&T tell users to insert a non-AT&T sim just to unlock?
This board has been extremely helpful and I appreciate all the help.
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AFAIK, the only reason you can need the unlock code, is to use such phone with another carrier, e.g. t-mobile, or overseas. don't see the relationship between the unlock code and att's new policy
anyway, i think you still have to find a sim card from another carrier to apply the unlock code.
Maybe there's a way to unlock the phone with the unlock code without using another sim card, but I've never heard of it. And what's the point, anyway? If you want to unlock the phone, you clearly want to use another sim card (and presumably have/will have one). I really doubt that unlocking that way is going to alert ATT that you don't have a data plan (how will they know when their sim isn't even in the phone??). You're going to put the other sim card in there sooner or later. This sounds like the type of crap that an ATT rep would say.
The only other way to unlock the phone is with Olipro's unlocker. That does not require another sim card, but it does flash/hack the phone.
Yes. I agree that the line you gave would be AT&T-ish. I'm on the fence right now about switching away from AT&T but have a decent deal via a family plan. I wanted to unlock my Fuze just in case that day came.
Just find someone who's on t-mobile, borrow their card, and get it over with. I unlocked my fuze (non-contract variety) the day I got it and have used it on t-mobile (cheapo pre-paid card) ever since. I also have an Orange UK card that I've used a couple times. ATT hasn't called me yet to tell me I need a data plan, lol.
Hi,
My phone is locked to specific network operator, How do i unlock it? Is bootloader unlocking/ rooting the same as unlocking network restrictions?
Is buying unlock codes from ebay a must?
Thanks
Bootloader locks and SIM lock are different things. Bootloader locks prevent you from running non-standard software; SIM locks prevent you from taking your phone to another operator.
Most phones ship with locked bootloaders, but while some bootloaders can be unlocked, others are encrypted, depending on where the phone's from and what restrictions the vendor wants to place on the device. Encrypted bootloaders can't be modified and thus restrict what you can do with the device.
SIM locks are placed on the phone by the network operator. They're there to tie the phone to an operator. The commercial justification is that if your phone is tied to a single operator then you're much less likely to insert a SIM card from another operator and stop paying your bills, which would result in a loss of the money the operator has paid to subsidise your handset.
To remove your SIM lock you should contact your network operator, who may be able to provide you with an unlock code for a fee if you're out of contract, and sometimes even if you're in-contract. They don't do locking here, and most of my stuff is parallel import, but when I lived in the UK you could usually get this stuff done at a shop with the right hardware. I wouldn't be buying anything from eBay, but that's just me.
I cant do that mate! I bought the phone a is from someone else. The phone is brand new but is locked to another operator than mine. So are you telling me this is not a "Do it yourself"' tasks?
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I cant do that mate! I bought the phone a is from someone else. The phone is brand new but is locked to another operator than mine. So are you telling me this is not a "Do it yourself"' tasks?
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That's what he's telling you. It does, however, depend on the phone - some phones you can do it yourself but almost never for free (sometimes you need to buy hardware, sometimes buy a code from a website).
Hello,
I owned a Verizon Galaxy Note 20 Ultra that I bought shortly after release. I got bored with it, as often happens, so I paid it off in full and sold it, to someone who uses T-Mobile. They cannot activate the phone, when they put their T-Mobile SIM in it, it gives the message "SIM card is not from Verizon Wireless". The facts:
I owned and used the phone for well over the 60 day automatic unlock period.
It was active on my Verizon account for the entire time until a week before I sold it.
It was paid off IN FULL, and my account said the line was paid in full and ready for an upgrade.
My Verizon account is never behind or not paid on time (Auto-Pay)
Is there something I needed to do to the phone besides factory reset it? Is there anything that can be done? Should I call Verizon customer service? To further complicate matters, the person I sold it to lives in another state. I may need to have them send me the phone back and refund them their money if I can't figure this out.
Thank you so much for any help that can be provided.
Are you sure you used the device for 60 days?
Rtiberius said:
Hello,
I owned a Verizon Galaxy Note 20 Ultra that I bought shortly after release. I got bored with it, as often happens, so I paid it off in full and sold it, to someone who uses T-Mobile. They cannot activate the phone, when they put their T-Mobile SIM in it, it gives the message "SIM card is not from Verizon Wireless". The facts:
I owned and used the phone for well over the 60 day automatic unlock period.
It was active on my Verizon account for the entire time until a week before I sold it.
It was paid off IN FULL, and my account said the line was paid in full and ready for an upgrade.
My Verizon account is never behind or not paid on time (Auto-Pay)
Is there something I needed to do to the phone besides factory reset it? Is there anything that can be done? Should I call Verizon customer service? To further complicate matters, the person I sold it to lives in another state. I may need to have them send me the phone back and refund them their money if I can't figure this out.
Thank you so much for any help that can be provided.
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Are you sure you used the device for 60 days? Did you check with another carrier sim before you sold the device?
SIM card is not from Verizon Wireless is a common message for all Verizon branded phones. May be buyer is confused with this message.
dadmi said:
Are you sure you used the device for 60 days?
Are you sure you used the device for 60 days? Did you check with another carrier sim before you sold the device?
SIM card is not from Verizon Wireless is a common message for all Verizon branded phones. May be buyer is confused with this message.
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Thanks for your reply.
Yes, it was activated in late August 2020 and was active up until the end of December 2020. No, I didn't realize I should try a different carrier's SIM first.
I asked them if they are able to call or text despite the SIM card message and they said no.
You need(ed) to request VZW to carrier (SIM) unlock the device prior to selling it.
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You need(ed) to request VZW to carrier (SIM) unlock the device prior to selling it.
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I'm so confused, Verizon says devices are automatically unlocked in their policies listed here: https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
I'm going to call Verizon, and see if there's anything they can do.
Update: Called Verizon tech support, and the agent confirmed that the device IS unlocked. He said I should have the buyer contact T-Mobile customer service and add the device to their database. Hopefully that works.
Rtiberius said:
Update: Called Verizon tech support, and the agent confirmed that the device IS unlocked. He said I should have the buyer contact T-Mobile customer service and add the device to their database. Hopefully that works.
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Adding to database is a Verizon thing, Tmobile is gsm. There is no way to sim unlock it if you don't do it on your phone line and request the unlock as if you're using the phone yourself.
Verizon will not unlock it unless it's currently on the line and met the other criteria you already have. For some reason verizon can't read if its really unlocked unless it's on their network, I went through it with an iphone earlier this year. They're a mess.
damn, i thought me getting a new phone annually is bad. you get a new phone every quarter? lol, actually i was thinking about trading mine for a fold 2 but no s-pen, no exp storage and a step down camera array, i decided to keep my note and see if they fix the fold 2's shortcomings.
what's in your pocket now?
It is quite possible that the buyer was not using an existing active sim. He was probably trying to activate a new sim which failed. I had the same issue with AT&T when activating a new sim. AT&T was not recognizing Unlocked model imei and I had to use a very old phone imei for activating sim after which I was able to use the same sim with with AT&T.
It also possible the buyer is lying to you. Either way it looks like the deal is going tits up for you. Perhaps next time check with a T-Mobile SIM before selling it or sell it as verizon locked. Feel for you.
Hello, i know this is a old thread but did you find the solution? i bought a verizon note 20 ultra and it doesnt work on any carrier, just work for a minute and it stops.
You guys found a way to unlock this? I just got the same phone and its a very expensive paperweight atm