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Here's my review about my experience about the ThL T6S. It is a 5" display smartphone from ThL, placed in the budget category and promoted as "ultrathin". At the end of this post you can find a video with a small unboxing and a quick summary.
You can find the original post in my blog, including the camera pictures and more updates:
http://klonom.com/thl-t6s-review/
Specs:
-Android 4.4.2
-MTK6582M Quad-Core, each 1.3 GHz
-1 GB RAM / 8 GB ROM
-MicroSD Card Slot
-5 MP back (after ThL Website, interpolated to 13 MP), 0.3 MP front (also after ThL Website, interpolated to 2 MP)
-GPS
-5" Display with resolution 854x480
-1900 mAh battery
-Sensors: Gravity, Proximity & Light Sensor
-Notification LED
-WiFi, Bluetooth
-Dual SIM
Buying Process & Delivery:
I bought the phone from the spain warehouse from Antelife, you can find it here. The delivery time was good, the phone arrived three weekdays after the order. The delivery was splitted up between UPS (delivering in Germany) and the spanish parcel service "Nacex", which I did not know before. The phone was delivered in a plastic-parcel bag, similiar to the ones from DHL-Express.
First Impressions:
The parcel was obviously opened immediately after the parcel service brought it. A short unboxing video (just to show what the box contents are) is available in the first part of the attached Video. The ThL T6S comes in the ThL typical white box with silver printing. The mobile itself comes in a small half transparent plastic bag. A display protection film was already applied, just the "upper" foil had to be removed. Beside the obligatory wall charger (5V with 500mA) with USB cable, a plastic case, a headset and a second protection foild was included. Although the T6S is placed in the low budget price segment, it feels valuable. The weight is somewhere in a nice balance between heavy and light in my opinion. Here you can see a small picture:
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Design:
The design is quite nice in my opinion. It is relatively plain, but differs at several point from the often used "general-chinaphone"-design. The upper and bottom edges are completey rounded off, so it gives an impression as it would be one cast part. The back is rippled very slightly, which feels nicely. The side-edges are bordered with a silver ring. A point which a I like especially are the control buttons (standby upper right and volume rocker on the upper left). The are inside the silver ring and nearly invisible. Only at a closer sight or feeling you can notice them. A negative influence towards the pressure point is not noticable. At the bottom of the display the android buttons Menu, Home and Back (from left to right) are placed. The Micro-USB port is situated on the top beside the headphone port.
The second picture shows the T6S in comparison to the ThL W200 (T6S top, W200 bottom). You can see, that both phones have roughly the same size. The T6S does not really deserve the title "ultrathin" as stated on the ThL website, although it is not too thick.
The phone is delivered in a relatively "clean" Android 4.2.2. Just the icons are added an colorfull background with rounded edges. To get an idea, here are two screenshots:
Performance:
While using the ThL T6S, no lags or similiar were bothering me. The launcher is not lagging and is browsed smooth. Also Youtube videos are loaded immediately and do not lag (which is not to be expected differently, since the max. resolution is 480p). To determine the performance a bit more quantitavely, the Antutu benchmark was executed. With its score of roughly 19000 points the T6S should have enough power for the daily use, as well for a little bit more.
Memory:
The memory is 8 GB large according to the ThL website. The memory distribution is like the following: 2.26 GB of internal memory and 3.88 GB of telephone memory. The internal memory is filled with around 289 MB from the beginning. Surely some memory could be cleaned with removing some bloatware. In general the internal memory offers enough capacity for me, especially in combination with App2SD. As an extension I am using a 32 GB MicroSD card, which is detected flawlessly from the T6S.
Camera:
...check my blog for the pictures and more
Display:
The T6S has a display diagonal of 5" with a resolution of just 854x480. The IPS display itself is from the company JDI, which is supposedly also producing the display for the HTC One. It is noticable that is not a FHD dispaly since you can see the pixels when looking closely. In my opinion, the resolution is acceptable relating to its price, especially when using it as a second mobile or when you anyway do not expect a HD resolution. However, the viewing angle is very good. The picture stays constant for nearly 180°. The T6S is no OGS. If you want to take this as an advantage or disadvantage is up to you.
Sensors:
The phone with the happy technology inside contains three sensors: acceleration, proximity and light. I did not test the accelerometer sensor in particular, whereas the switching to landscape mode happens quick and reliable. Also the proximity sensor worked reliable-the phone display always turned off while calling somebody. The light sensor on the contrary just works limited as in many chinaphones. The automatic brightness adjusts nicely in "clearly defined" situations (very dark/very bright). While in situations in between, the brightness randomly "jumps" in a few seconds period. That's why I turned off the automatic brightness again.
GPS:
The very first GPS fix was surprisingly fast, after just about 10-15 seconds my position was determined. After roughly the double time the accuracy increased to about 12 feet. For additional testing I did some test navigation. I did not experience any disconnects and just one time a "drifting" from the street. Anyhow, the reaction time is not very high. When movement is stopped, it takes several seconds untill the GPS is up to date. As a second application, I played some Ingress. A similiar behaviour was noticable here. To summarize, the T6S is suitable for basic navigation and GPS applications. It should be emphasized, that the GPS is working out-of-the-box, without any GPS tweaks or similiar.
Reception:
The reception as well as the transmission quality is good. While using it for everyday use, I did not notice any disconnects or a comparable bad reception. Also the Wi-Fi reception is good. As well as in my appartment or in public places I experienced comparable acceptable or good Wi-Fi reception.
SIM-Slots:
The phone has two SIM-Slots. The SIM-cards are placed on top of each other. One slot is Standard (Mini) SIM, while the other one is Micro-SIM. Both slots can work in 3G, but just one at a time. Which one is using 3G can be set in the Android menu.
Misc:
The T6S has a red notification LED on the top right beside the loudspeaker. It lights up constantly while charging and works out-of-the-box as a notification LED for system-notifications. The phone is delivered unrooted, whereas it should be reportedly easily rooted with the one-click program "VRoot". Although I did not try it be myself. Google Apps are already installed on the phone. Additionally a chinese appstore, DU Speed Booster, Baidu Browser and a chinese Game Central are installed. This is the only bloatware you can see at without going deeper in the system. The battery seems to be quite small with its capacity of 1900 mAh, but after a normal day with bluetooth turned on the battery was still charged with around 60%. The low power consumption is probably explained by the low display resolution. A small detail which I noticed is that the vibration alarm is quite weak.
Conclusion:
The ThL T6S is quite a good low-budget phone. To the low price it offers some functionality which just available in general on higher priced phones or with additional tweaks (e.g. the GPS). Additionally I like building quality, since no slits are obviously visible, the battery closing is holding firmly and the weight is comfortable. Although the display is not full HD, it is has a nice quality. In general it can be said, that the T6S has a good cost-benefit ratio. The T6S is not a smartphone with the best specs available, but recommandable for the daily use or as a second mobile.
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Hola por lo que cojo me entenderás en español y yo me explicaré mejor . Comparto contigo que un buen teléfono para el precio que tiene y en las demas observaciones, pero yo tengo un par de preguntas: hay ya alguna forma de rootearlo? Y otra cuestión lo utilizo con una tarjeta de Másmovil red de Orange y me sale la señal de que coge la red de datos sinembargo el navegador no me funciona, solo funciona con WiFi. Gracias
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Your review about THL,6s is awesome. I just bougt the phone and im impressed with it. It reminds of HTC smartphone.
T6S review - addendum
I also did a T6S review on a local forum today so I'll just paste it here
ThL T6S black from PandaWill: http://www.pandawill.com/thl-t6s-sm...s-1gb-8gb-android-44-gps-3g-black-p92266.html
This is the first time I've ever had contact with a ThL smartphone and I find it pretty nice. The thl box is quite good, there's a foam on the inside to protect the screen. The phone came with one applied screen protector (quite poor , It scratches easily, isn't anti-glare) and an extra one, one earphone and one charger, both just regular chinese stuff. The store (pandawill) sent me a hardcase as a gift, nice [Pictures 10 and 11]. Pandawill customer service was alright when I needed, and the phone was well packed. The outside box had a few bumps on it, but ThL box was perfect due to bubble wrap absorption. The first thing I did was root the phone using VRoot tutorials that are available all over the internet. I just had a bit of trouble installing the drivers on my Win7 64bits but after that everything went smooth.
Overall quality of the device impresses me right out of the box, same as Jiayu F1 and Doogee DG2014 that I recently bought. The battery arrived with 70% of charge, and I went right in to see for the first time the KitKat Android, expecting big changes (bleh). It's a clean ROM with only 4 bloatwares on it. First look is all good, specially judging by it's cheap $90 price. I'm coming from a MTK6589 so right at the beginning I noticed it's a little more quick than my Star B94M. Screen is amazing, cameras are not disappointing, and the touch is sensitive and fluid.
The design is similar to the new fashion: thinner close to the sides, and with a metal of some sort even thinner, giving the extremely thin sensation. The screen borders are not very thin, but also don't bother the eyes. Power button on the right side, volume buttons on the left side, USB and earphone connections on the top. In the rear, camera and flash are at central top, and speaker is at central bottom. It's a fancy design, everyone I showed the phone liked it. There's this special detail on the sides that's a chrome metal, which is really nice [Picture 4]. Back cover isn't 100% smooth, which gives a nice feel to the hand when using the phone. The capacitive buttons dont have backlight, but at least they have a chrome color which almost reflects something when you're using it in the dark. If you have really good eyes you might see the buttons. This really bothers me. Some pics of the device:
About the performance , a 6582 with 1GB of RAM is enough for me. Of course the more the merrier when it comes to RAM but I believe nowadays 1GB is pretty manageable. Jumping from 6589 to 6582 brings a whole new flow when it comes to games. A recent example is the silly game BackToBed which didn't go well on my 6589 when all graphics were enabled, but with 6582 everything went smooth even with x4 antialiasing. Also GTA San Andreas on HIGH worked fine (didn't test MAX). Just remember that it's very good with games because the resolution is quite low - 854x480p. The T6S has 8GB of internal memory, which came splitted as: 2.26GB for internal memory and 3.86GB emulated as a SD card. I intend to use a external microSD card so I'll try to follow XDA tutorials and merge these into a ~6GB internal memory. Antutu prints:
T6S marketing (aside from the low price) is it's screen which is a JDI IPS screen, which really surprised me given the price. I supposed that with such screen size and low resolution it would be kinda weird, but for some reason it looks alright. A friend of mine actually asked if it was 720p. My mom chose T6S screen over Doogee DG2014 when I asked her about the quality, showing her the same picture with high resolution on both devices. Looking carefully I can see pixels in T6S, but image quality (contrast, brightness, colors) brings a really good feeling about the screen. With 40% brightness it beats my Star B94M at 100% brightness, so that's good. I'm not a screen expert but I like it! View angle is very very good, only one of the sides shows a little bit of burned colors, but only at very high angles. I couldn't get those burned colors in image.
Touchscreen is sensitive and responsive, BUT it only accepts two simulaneous touches. I think this is a big mistake from ThL, because it's very bad to type messages fast, and some apps and games require more than two touches. Also, both touchs can't be in the same horizontal line [Picture 17]. As an example, while typing a message (portrait position) you have to type slowly, because if you press A and L at almost the same time, the screen will recognize the mid-point (which is about letter G), so it's a mess. I've seen other chinese phones with the same problem (i.e. Jiayu F1, Doogee DG200). Check the pic:
The cameras also surprised me. My comparison base is a Doogee DG200 which has the same camera hardware, and both T6S cameras performed better. The flash is really poor, both as a flashlight or as camera flash. In the dark it only helps at less than 50cm. Some pictures taken with it:
The sensors are very few: no gyroscope nor compass, both I'd like to have to use for photosphere and GPS. It has the simple combo: acelerometer, light sensor, proximity sensor, all working very well. Light sensor is so much better than B94M. I am able to use auto-brightness very well. If it doesn't bother the owner to have the brightness auto changing every now and then, it works perfectly. It has a notification LED but it seems to be only RED.
Both GPS and 3G worked out of the box here in Brazil. GPS fix in less than 2 minutes, inside the apartment, not moving. In a second test, riding around the city, it worked very well using Waze App. No confusion between close streets like my B94M used to do. I couldn't test it very well yet, but seems alright.
The battery seems to last up to 24hours. I'm not a good comparision base because I usually just pick up the phone for a few calls and very few internet use. What I can say is that the stock ROM could manage DeepSleep very well. With other chinese devices that I used, I had to do a few tricks to get DeepSleep working. With T6S frequency management is very well done. During the night, 10 hours only took 2% of the battery. I've just checked and it's been 22 hours running and still has 70%. Again, my guess is 24hours for regular use.
Other: Speaker volume is pretty high. I'd say it's about three times higher than my B94M. I've told you I loved the build quality, but here are some details: When opening the back cover I've notice that the antennas (those black stuff) have their name on it. [Picture 31]. I've never seen this on a phone and I think it's a detail that shows how much T6S cares. The battery is pretty big, bigger than my 2000mAh of B94M, so my guess is it's a real 1900mAh. It fits very very well, which is quite good because it won't get loose over time. Rear camera came with a protective film [Imagem 31],so it doesn't scratch the outside 'lens'. In the center of the speaker there's a small higher dot [Imagem 32], which is good for anti-scratching the back cover when the device is on a surface. I think it's pretty cool that chinese brand care this much even when I've seen many Motorolas and Samsung all scratched.
To sum up:
Pros:
Build quality;
Screen quality;
Cost;
Design;
Clear ROM;
3G and GPS working out of the box;
Good game performance
Cons:
Only 2-touch;
Lack of sensors
Bad flash
No backlight on capacitive buttons.
I accidentally re-posted this while editing the post above, so if anyone could please delete this one right here.
vrooted, seems like no gyroscope with google cardboard., correct?
Any way to enable OTG?
jaiong said:
vrooted, seems like no gyroscope with google cardboard., correct?
Any way to enable OTG?
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Yes, rooted using Vroot. Very easy after you get the drivers working.
I don't think it has gyroscope, otherwise it would show on Antutu and Android Sensor Box, which it didn't. Does google cardboard only works with gyro? Isn't accelerometer enough?
I haven't searched about OTG, but I can assure it's not factory ready.
Corelio said:
Hola por lo que cojo me entenderás en español y yo me explicaré mejor . Comparto contigo que un buen teléfono para el precio que tiene y en las demas observaciones, pero yo tengo un par de preguntas: hay ya alguna forma de rootearlo? Y otra cuestión lo utilizo con una tarjeta de Másmovil red de Orange y me sale la señal de que coge la red de datos sinembargo el navegador no me funciona, solo funciona con WiFi. Gracias
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I am sorry, I do not speak spanish. I tried to use Google translate to answer you questions: Yes, you can root it with the program "Vroot". But I am sorry, I can not give you any advise, how to get local provider SIM card working .
komez7 said:
Your review about THL,6s is awesome. I just bougt the phone and im impressed with it. It reminds of HTC smartphone.
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Thank you ! Always happy to hear that.
jaiong said:
vrooted, seems like no gyroscope with google cardboard., correct?
Any way to enable OTG?
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Yes, the THL T6S is not able to use it with Google Cardboard as far as I know, since it does not have a gyroscope (neither compass to emulate gyro).
And also no , there is no way which I know to enable OTG.
This device is supposed to be 8GB. But when I go to storage, I have two items.
Internal Storage 2.26GB (214MB availalable) and Phone Storage 3.88GB ( 3.63GB available)
I am unable to install any new apps due to storage (even when the app is say 20MB and it says I have 214MB available). But obviously I still have over 3 GB free.
I don't' have an SD card installed so I'm confused about this segregation of storage.
What do I need to do to combine this into one storage device (if possible) and or move apps over to "phone storage".
RobbieRobski said:
This device is supposed to be 8GB. But when I go to storage, I have two items.
Internal Storage 2.26GB (214MB availalable) and Phone Storage 3.88GB ( 3.63GB available)
I am unable to install any new apps due to storage (even when the app is say 20MB and it says I have 214MB available). But obviously I still have over 3 GB free.
I don't' have an SD card installed so I'm confused about this segregation of storage.
What do I need to do to combine this into one storage device (if possible) and or move apps over to "phone storage".
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There would be two ways:
1) Rather system invasive, more complex: You can partition the memory of your phone new, so that your first Partition (Internal Storage) gets the larger ratio instead of the large second partition (Phone Mem). But I have never done it with the ThL T6S. For infos how to do that (appearingly also suitable for the T6S) you can find in this Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455850
2) Root it and install an App2SD program (like for example this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ljmobile.move.app ). With this program you can also move apps to the SD card which officially do not support it.
Hope I could help you .
Thanks Hanzpeter, I'll probably root and use app2sd.
edit: so I just rooted and installed app2sd. When I choose an app it loads the app info page and says "please tap "move to sdcard" button", but no button exists. As mentioned previously, I haven't installed an SD card. Just wanting to move apps to the other partition.
Why do mfgs do this. Is that common even on high end devices? HTC One, galaxy s5 etc.
RobbieRobski said:
Thanks Hanzpeter, I'll probably root and use app2sd.
edit: so I just rooted and installed app2sd. When I choose an app it loads the app info page and says "please tap "move to sdcard" button", but no button exists. As mentioned previously, I haven't installed an SD card. Just wanting to move apps to the other partition.
Why do mfgs do this. Is that common even on high end devices? HTC One, galaxy s5 etc.
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Ah sorry, I did not read that part that you do not have an SD-Card. Then in case you do not want to get one, the only solution which I know is to repartition your device, since I do not know a possibility to install apps on the second partition...
THL T6S - "Unfortunately phone.android.com has stopped responding"
Hi.
I am having this problem since I got the phone (which, of course, is making it useless)
Does anyone have a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
Did you try to reset your phone?
http://www.thlmobilestore.com/ is the official website? I want to buy it at the official website, more reliable.
Krystyna said:
http://www.thlmobilestore.com/ is the official website? I want to buy it at the official website, more reliable.
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No, I don't think so. I think ThL itself doesn't have an "own" webshop. This should be the official english ThL website (for the T6S):
http://en.thl.com.cn/product/t6s.html
They simply list other resellers, like for example the Antelife Shop where I got mine from.
Any custom roms yet for our t6s? Anyone know how to change the battery icon to anything else?
squall458 said:
Any custom roms yet for our t6s? Anyone know how to change the battery icon to anything else?
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No, I don't think that there are any Custom ROMs for the ThL T6S yet. But there are some apps, with which you can "overlay" your battery icon with a custom one I think, like for example this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kovit.p.alwaysbattery
Thanks for the link and reply! Gave you thanks! Yea too bad no custom roms for us yet. Im guessing you own a THL t6s too? White or black? The battery life is pretty awesome so far. I love this phone! Wish there were more accessories and a custom rom for us! The battery overlay is cool except I cant find one that looks half decent.
The black one, but just trying the improved version, the ThL T6 Pro in white. Will post a review on that soonish . Hmm, I actually think the normal Android battery sign doesn't look too bad .
Hello all. i im here to ask you a couple of think.
i want to buy a phone and i can't decide between Huawei P8-lite (kirin or qualcomm processor). alcatel idol 3 5.5", huawei honor 5x, blu life one x (2016), oneplus X.
all the phone are the best i found for around 200$.
i am here to ask about idol 3 obviously LOL
the only problem i see is the laggy. i read about this phone have lag on all. Second i want to have officially android M and i don't know if this phone recibe that.
thats all. thank you
If you can wait a month before your purchase and Marshmallow still isn't on the Idol 3 (or officially announced) then I think it is a safe bet that it won't be coming to the Idol 3.
Personally, I think most of the lag issues were resolved with the early software updates but I can only speak for myself and I may not have the same attention to detail as some of the tech people on the internets. You might be able to get a better response if you tell us what features interest you the most for a new phone as well (IE: Gaming, screen brightness, speaker volume, battery life, etc)
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If you can wait a month before your purchase and Marshmallow still isn't on the Idol 3 (or officially announced) then I think it is a safe bet that it won't be coming to the Idol 3.
Personally, I think most of the lag issues were resolved with the early software updates but I can only speak for myself and I may not have the same attention to detail as some of the tech people on the internets. You might be able to get a better response if you tell us what features interest you the most for a new phone as well (IE: Gaming, screen brightness, speaker volume, battery life, etc)
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@macallik thanks for your response i hope more idol users response to. And.... Im not searching something special like sound or camera. I just want buy the best phone for 200$. 13Mpx. 2-3Gb of ram.. octacore preffer qualcomm. Android 6. 4.5-5.5 inches screen...
One plus x will be my fav. It's sleek beautiful also compact with amoled screen and decent performance. No big 5.5 screen, no excellent speakers and no big battery but it's your choice.
Nikola Jovanovic said:
One plus x will be my fav. It's sleek beautiful also compact with amoled screen and decent performance. No big 5.5 screen, no excellent speakers and no big battery but it's your choice.
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@Nikola Jovanovic but its a 801 quadcore from 2014 and dont have Android 6. Its not old?
Understand that but it's still little bit faster than 615 cpu, and our idol 3 doesn't have Android M yet on it. Who knows when will it come. I've heard about end of the May, with the deadline to middle of the June but as I have said previously, who knows..
I have the I3 5.5 in stock rom since 10 months now and I can assure you that it's a great phone for the price!
First, it's a very good looking phone, well built, plastics are not cheap.
Then we've got several updates wich fixed the majority of the problems encountered. If you optimize it the lags almost completely disappear.
For example I deactivate the animations in développer mode and lots of little things like that. We all know that the snapdragon 615 is not a high end processor but it's powerful enough to rule multi-application decently and to play most of games of the play store in quite good conditions (RR3, the Room, Modern Combat etc..).
The screen is awesome very brightly in sunny day, you have no problem to read it.
For the music the speakers are really really good, sharp and powerful.
Camera is quite good too thanks to the updates.
The battery once calibrated is good, with a very moderate usage I almost stand two days with it. So normally you'll have no problem to have a very long day with it. If you are are a gamer don't hope to stand more than an normal day.
The only thing I can tell against this phone that it's far away from a rugged phone. So my advice if you buy it, it's to buy at the same time a tempered glass and a silicon protection and use them since the first day. That's what I've done and I've got no problem. And don't put it in you're trouser's pockets! It don't like twisting.
One last thing, we are still not sure to have MM on it. Some say for June, but the idol 4 will be here at this time. I would be very surprised that Alcatel (Tcl) give the update while they are selling a new model more expensive wich become less attractive if the Idol3 is under Marshmallow. Perhaps we'll got it in August... I hope so.
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Hello the Idol3 have the Marshmallow update confirmed, and the first impressions after the update are really good. It was a really good phone under lollipop, now it will be a great phone.
il y a 10 types de personnes dans la vie, ceux qui comprennent le binaire et les autres.
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Hey whats up , just looking for advice /opinions from p40 pro owners
Ok got me the oneplus 8 pro on (H3G) UK and well that was a big let down in the camera department and battery life not to mention display issues , anyway within my 14 days I can exchange to pretty much any phone they have so camera is pretty important so I toy'd with idea of p40 pro but without Google was a bit off putting so I decided on the S20 Ultra and well let's say I'm not blown away with the camera on that,
has just been updated and is kinda beta especially auto focus was main issue at the time , so my question is should I while I'm still in my 14 days retun S20 ultra for the P40 pro as s20 ultra 100x zoom is well waste of time I know anything pretty much past 30x is a blurr but over all watching YouTube video although samsung looks more natural colour's the detail of the p40 pro can be slightly better its very subjective in most comparisons I can get over the fact there's no Google but should I switch or stick with the ultra and hope samsung can improve further anybody actually switched from s20 ultra to p40 pro and regret it or are you much happier , I know on paper s20 ultra spec wise display ok 120hz at 1080p isn't ideal but display is beautiful and 12gb ram and stereo speakers and tech better front facing cam ,again subjective . I just don't know want to do , thanks for reading hope you can help decide , Lol stay safe [emoji4]
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Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
kyero985 said:
Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
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Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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DoobyDroid said:
Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
kyero985 said:
The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
kyero985 said:
If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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OP8P's camera is a solid performer, but it's far from a flagship champion in the photography department in my opinion since the P40P is superior in both hardware and software.
Another reason why The P40P is also great in the battery life department is because there aren't any Google Play Services and other Google-related processes running in the background 24/7. I can disable most of Huawei's app services whenever I want, including their App Store, HiCare, HiSearch and their other apps quickly and easily. Yes, even though the battery capacity is only 4200mAh, Huawei has great RAM management and it's not as bloated anymore with other unwanted apps (at least the global version is pretty clean).
I have both the S20U and P40P, i have to say the Huawei is the better device hardware/software wise i u set it up properly HMS/GMS/ICE BOX. I previously had a P30P and i loved it thought i would go Samsung but honestly they are not top of the crop even if the price is.
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I'm really into the Hardware and aesthetic of the phone, and I think the P40 Pro is the best on the market in that aspect. It really feels premium and worth the price. It's the perfect size and weight and the materials are top notch. The Samsungs S20's just don't feel their price which is the first thing that lets it down to me (the Note 10's were much better in that respect).
If you have some patience and are good with technology and can side load GMS on the P40 Pro I'd definitely recommend it. It's the first phone out of the recent flagships that I want to keep for the next 12 months.
Another option I'd suggest is the Oppo Find X2 Pro. ColourOS I actually find I prefer to Oxygen OS. The camera is excellent and the phone feels and looks quality.
Thanks good to hear , yes had p40 lite briefly had issues getting GMS working on that but alot of the vids aimed at the p40 pro gave up with it in the end , hope to have more success with p40 pro just to be on safe side and to get my Google fix I've also ordered a oneplus 8 12GB green so will have the best of both worlds preferred it over the pro having the p40 pro as main camera phone dont see the point in getting another pro as well Roll on Monday and good buy Ultra [emoji3]
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I was going to move from.iphone to p40 pro however my banks have said they are unlikely to ever support the huawei system so am looking at something different than for example Samsung
I have seen the oppo find x2 pro and the headphones offer is definitely tempting me
I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
Also is the camera good (other option is the xperia 1 Mark 2 as I've a massive photographer)
Thanks in advance
mancuk29 said:
I was going to move from.iphone to p40 pro however my banks have said they are unlikely to ever support the huawei system so am looking at something different than for example Samsung
I have seen the oppo find x2 pro and the headphones offer is definitely tempting me
I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
Also is the camera good (other option is the xperia 1 Mark 2 as I've a massive photographer)
Thanks in advance
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My find x2 pro has the june security patch but i think other carriers already have the july update and with each security update they always have other things in the updates not just security patches like samsung do, also the camera in my opinion is better than samsung , samsung photos always seem quite grainy and the 120hz + QHD+ run at the same time unlike samsung and 1 billion colour display on the find x2 pro make things looks way smoother in terms of the colour spectrum/range.
Plus this phones charges up from 0 to 100 in like 35 mins.
Brilliant thank you as long as it's not months behind I'm happy...
mancuk29 said:
Brilliant thank you as long as it's not months behind I'm happy...
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The Find X2 Pro is fairly recent however I'm on the June security patch now which is the latest for my region, July incoming soon I believe.
Additionally this phone outclasses any Samsung on the market & will continue to do so even when the Note 20 comes out next month because Samsung cripple us with their lackluster Exynos chipsets.
Camera quality is amazing, I came from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro and don't regret it whatsoever, the custom built sensor is outstanding and has amazing colour accuracy.
As for the display, 3K, 120hz, HDR certified, with 1 billion colours, & calibrated to perfection by Oppo, even outclassing the likes of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
Need I say more?
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The Find X2 Pro is fairly recent however I'm on the June security patch now which is the latest for my region, July incoming soon I believe.
Additionally this phone outclasses any Samsung on the market & will continue to do so even when the Note 20 comes out next month because Samsung cripple us with their lackluster Exynos chipsets.
Camera quality is amazing, I came from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro and don't regret it whatsoever, the custom built sensor is outstanding and has amazing colour accuracy.
As for the display, 3K, 120hz, HDR certified, with 1 billion colours, & calibrated to perfection by Oppo, even outclassing the likes of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
Need I say more?
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You made it sound that good i want to buy another one lol
Hi I just recently returned the Xperia 1ii and decided to try the Oppo Find X2 Pro
First impressions have been positive. The camera does seem to be better than the Xperia and that is me using the Manuel modes with photo Pro on the Xperia
Screen is just as good and I like what Colour OS has built into its software.
Xperia had issues with video recording as it was causing a hissing sound so it was a big deal breaker.
Enjoying it so far and hope I will continue to do so
I read a few horror stories about the xperia 1 ii I loved the advance software for camera but rubbish front camera and also issues with software so glad have ordered the oppo one it's landing tomorrow can't wait
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I read a few horror stories about the xperia 1 ii I loved the advance software for camera but rubbish front camera and also issues with software so glad have ordered the oppo one it's landing tomorrow can't wait
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get some type of lens hood for it. it suffers a lot from lens flare
sirTAVARES said:
get some type of lens hood for it. it suffers a lot from lens flare
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@mancuk29 bare in mind this could just be select devices, not a widespread issue
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@mancuk29 bare in mind this could just be select devices, not a widespread issue
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from the 100 telegram users that have the phone i'd say 80% have that and the other 20% don't know how to replicate it.
And customer support is the worst i've seen.
everything else is pretty good.
Is that on the Sony and not the oppo ? please tell me it's the sony
Oppo just released another update today A30, waiting on a download file or try and vpn it
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I've never had an oppo before what are they like in firmware updates? Do you wait for ever or are they quite prompt for example what month security are you all on??
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July security patch received this morning
Is that UK as I'm only showing June patch so far (updated this morning)
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Is that UK as I'm only showing June patch so far (updated this morning)
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Yes I'm on EE in the UK, if you haven't received it yet, others are reporting that using a VPN & setting it to Italy will find the update
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Yes I'm on EE in the UK, if you haven't received it yet, others are reporting that using a VPN & setting it to Italy will find the update
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Thanks that worked when I connect to Italy VPN.
I'm on O2 network
Hello, anyone else with this problem? Apparently months have passed and Google has turned a blind eye and negative comments rain down on the forums and channels!!! and to play, don't even mention it, it looks like a 300 dollar phone of the worst quality
Not sure what is the problem?
¡Mira el video que publiqué aquí! este panel esta muy mal calibrado....
Mod translation: Check out the video I posted here! this panel is very poorly calibrated...
Don't know anyone with that scrolling issue. Also looks like the person scrolling on the Pixel 7 Pro isn't really scrolling. I find that video sus.
Nope, no issues here