Question Functouch OS 11 vs Functouch OS 12 - iQOO 7

Hi Fellow Android users,
Some background to my experience recently.
Lately I got my touch digitizer suddenly die on me without any physical or liquid damage. I had to visit VIVO / IQOO service center to get it repaired. Due to my repeated requests stating that it's not a software bug that lower half of the screen randomly died, they still flashed my phone and formatted my data. Since I was already prepared for this as Indian technicians and mobile repair guys are no better than roadside puncture guys, it didn't affect me.
Once they were done formatting they obviously tried to prove it to me that see now it's working fine which they themselves were not confident about and I didn't have to argue much.
They gave in and replaced the touch digitizer and since then the phone is back to normal.
Though to my surprise they flashed Funtouch OS 11. I had already updated to Funtouch OS 12, this was a surprise for me since I couldn't find a way to revert back to OS 11 due to plethora of issues OS 12 brought.
Since then I've been staying on OS 11 and have refused to update to OS 12 as personally I find bugs to be liveable as compared to OS 12.
Hence this poll is created.
Share your thoughts and let's try to raise this to users who might get attracted by hardware that the software isn't as great as it could and should have been.

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Any Luck With Level 2 Remote Assistance?

I'll give a quick background. I ordered my OnePlus on 5/5/2015. In December 2015, I noticed that a whole section of my screen was dead so I went through the RMA process. I won't give full details, but I received a replacement/refurbished OPO in May 2016 (not a typo). In January of 2016, I purchased a Nexus 5X as I had really given up hope on having a working OPO. Used my refurbished OPO as a WiFi device at home when I received it, had been working fine.
I was one of the many Nexus 5X folks that received the bootloop of death after upgrading to Nougat so I started using my OPO as my primary a couple weeks ago. Now my OPO has been experiencing random reboots throughout the day. I upgraded to the latest CyanogenMod stable and that didn't fix it. So I put Oxygen OS on it yesterday and it still happens, but with less frequency (5 times a day).
Finally, my question. OnePlus is wanting to do a remote session in which I turn over controls of my computer to them with my phone hooked up. From the ticket it looks like they are just going to wipe & put Cyanogen or Oxygen back on my device. As I have no faith this will work, and I am not real keen on having them access my computer remotely, I am wondering if anybody else has had any luck with the remote session? They also told me the refurbished unit goes back to purchase date of my original phone for warranty purposes so I am out of luck there. Has OnePlus been known to issue a credit for purchase of a new phone ever? I would consider purchasing a 3T, but based on my experience I am a bit hesitant. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

EMUI 5 Nougat upgrade is good or not?

Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in emui4.1
Rommco05 said:
Which issues you mean?
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I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
bala1701 said:
I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
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All are good
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
Zero issues in B389, battery a tad better the MM versions. Never charge device more than 1x/day, sometimes 1x/1.5 day.
Dominikrod said:
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
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Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
Rommco05 said:
Performance is higher how on Marshmallow and with battery I don't have any problems, this can be related which model you have and which firmware you are able to install. Gyroscope issue... I don't know
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Mine is Indian version
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
venugopalu007 said:
Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
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You mean nougat update for FRDL02 has no battery issues? But at top of this thread you also mentioned this :
"Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in EMUI4.1"
Im confused..
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Use i am also saying that emui 4.1 sucks less compared to 5.0 . Emui 4.1 is the best for battery but we want the new version of Android should have to leave the old one
Also in emui 5.0:
In lockscreen clean up disable apps to run in back ground . U can also get 6+
Rommco05 said:
Anyway if compare look betwen EMUI4 and EMUI5, emui5 is much better, looks a bit more stable and fast. Google security patches is newest how on emui4 and in future if want upgrade to Andoid O (hopefuly we got it) u will must anyway upgrade first to emui5 Nougat. Emui5 have lot of settings which can help improve battery life
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I can't get security patches on MM Emui 4 unless I upgrade and that's sad. But the performance with EMUI 4 on H8 is truly amazing. I have never had a single instance of lag or slowness in the two months I have had this. Truly flagship device. Buttery smooth and I'm thoroughly enjpyong this beauty. I'm afraid this will not be the case once I upgrade. So let me stay with this till we get the news on Android O.
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
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There are still some minor bugs, which you will never notice (maybe). But I would like to say its 96% stable. :fingers-crossed:
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? ...
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Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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bala1701 said:
Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
Saeem said:
Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Yes sure I will definitely give it a try in the future. But as of now I am at peace with EMUI4.1/MM
@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
Cool_Man99 said:
@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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I didn't know that. But thanks :good:

Android 10 obliterated my phone.

As the title says.
My phone has no longer been the absolute powerhouse that it once was since Android 9.
I'm aware many of you will spout that "U shld downgrid bak 2 vershion nooin?!?!"
Believe me I have.
The issues are still present.
So my issues are as follows:
My camera app is completely broken on version 10.3.3 (downgrading fixes this stupid issue / rooting removing and replacing the app)
Light sensitivity / screen rotate module is broken / turned off as most apps are telling me that it's non existent / not plugged in. (Downgrading / rooting / custom ROM does NOT fix this issue) I've tried all the usual crap with this case.
The keyboard issue
The stupid bar at the bottom that we can't utilise as we AREN'T PIXEL DEVICES ONEPLUS. I've heard a few people say to me that it's there for additional features and that we should get used to it. Well contrary to that information is the fact that the OnePlus team "fixed the keyboard bar" on the latest Beta ( which is now redundant ((cheers onepiss))
Battery related issues (Which can be fixed with downgrade / ROM)
To me it just seems like the Dev team gave up trying to optimise every OnePlus 6 phone they have out there as I seem to be a very specific case. I wanted this phone to last me at least four years but it feels like the dodgy updates are ensuring my regrets with buying a OnePlus phone.
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By mistake i did try it....
Aplications crash.....freeze.......
In resume:
I nuke it, and return to 9.0.9 full rooted and unlocked.
My best mode at this time would be a new physical battery....
Glad I'm not the only one!

Lenovo table yoga yb1-x90f EOL but maybe not

Lenovo has stopped all updates to android tablet yb1-x90f several years ago. It's a non-phone, wifi tablet. Machine is nice, has great screen display, keyboard is nice, and works well but software is now getting 3-4 years old.
I recently dissambled it to replace battery. Broke keyboard in removal process but got a new one installed. All works well (new battery and keyboard) but would like to update software.
I'd like to resume system android updates or, perhaps, even remove android and replace with linux if it will work. I have a pinephone that I am getting to finally work decently.
thanks for any knowledgeable ideas. tom kosvic
Updates ( read: patches to existing OS ) only get rolled by OEMs if they deem it necessary.
Yes, lenovo discontinued updates but can I restart them in some manner or even replace OS with linux?

Oxygen OS 11.0.7.1 OTA Broke my camera (torch - camera in use) fixed only by downgrading to OxygenOS 9.5.11

tl;dr: I flashed to 11.0.7.1 which rendered the camera/torch unusable, only 9.5.11 should I try flashing back to the latest OxygenOS or rather use some custom ROM?
I was using the OnePlus 7 Pro I got a few months back used for ~200 EUR quite happily, except the front camera wasn't working (it pops up but the software freezes, keeps popping back and forth until I quit the camera app), which was probably somehow damaged by the previous user. We didn't discuss it, as he also didn't say anything about quite noticeable AMOLED Burn-in, cause he used the always-on navigational buttons... Something everyone should check when browsing through used deals.
I guess I was using the latest 11.0.6.1.GM21BA without issue, then the security patch and a few people on Reddit said their battery life improved, so I tried it.
All seemed fine, but the camera app has just thrown an error that the camera is damaged and I should go for repairs, torch in the quick menu said "Camera in use" so I did a backup and factory reset, which I recall I had to do in the previous update as well. But that didn't help. So in the angry rush, I said to hell with Oxygen OS and flashed cDroid, but there was the same issue there.
Finally using this great guide I managed to reflash to OxygenOS 10, but the issue still persisted. But with OxygenOS 9.5.11 finally, the camera works again. I didn't even put the phone online and I wanted to try upgrading to the latest OxygenOS 11 again, but I fear the issue will happen again.
Maybe OS9 somehow made the camera unstuck and unless I install the 'corrupting OxygenOS 10/11' and install rather some custom ROM it might be fine?
I will try later, I wasted too many valuable hours on this crap.
Googling in rage and reading other posts I see a similar camera issue happened across multiple OnePluses from 6 to 8. This really disappoints me and I'm sure I won't be looking for a used OnePlus ever again. Good thing I got a spare older OnePlus 5 for now.
Thanks for your testimony.
I indeed have this issue too. It appeared on June 10th. I tried to factory reset my phone yesterday and nothing changed.
I will also add that my front camera isn't working anymore since April. Can't figure out if this is software or hardware related
I really don't want to downgrade to OOS 9 but until the contrary is proved (by a fix or a comment by OnePlus), I would call it a case of planned obsolescence.
From now on I will keep my distance with this brand. Quite sad to admit because I was fond of their phones, but the management of issues / updates for the more dated ones isn't an example to follow anymore
klediouron said:
Thanks for your testimony.
I indeed have this issue too. It appeared on June 10th. I tried to factory reset my phone yesterday and nothing changed.
I will also add that my front camera isn't working anymore since April. Can't figure out if this is software or hardware related
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Has your front camera stopped working after an update or during normal use?
It would make "sense" for OS 10+ to check if there is an issue with the front camera to disable all cameras altogether. Even if only to rush you into a repair shop...
I requested a repair which is in neighboring Poland, but they didn't wait for confirmation and requested UPS shipping from me right away.
I will check with them if the price would be within 50 EUR (from other posts not sure where in the world it was ~ 30 EUR if I recall correctly), then I'll get it repaired.

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