Question [INDIA] Galaxy S22 Ultra news + discussion thread. - Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra

Looks like India might be getting the Snapdragon this year. How many of you are going to upgrade? I've already sold my S21 Ultra in anticipation for the S22 Ultra.

For me, it's too early to decide based on rumours and conjecture alone. Will wait for a month after the device is out in people's hands before making the decision. I stayed back on A11 on my S21U so phone performance is still very good. Thankfully, i downgraded from A12 before the bootloader update so I was able to roll back. If A12 performance on S22U is similar to the S21U, I would stay clear of it.
As far as chipset is concerned, I don't really have an issue with the E2100. Unlike previous Exynos SoCs, I quite liked the E2100. It's very comparable to the SD888 performance, really closing the gap this year. In some aspects I actually prefer the E2100, especially is thermal performance and stand-by battery drain, when compared to the SD counterpart.
The S22U isn't offering anything more than an inbuilt stylus and a generational chipset upgrade. Not sure if the increase in performance will justify the extra cost of upgrading.
The phone has got to be something really special and miles ahead of the S21U for me to spend another 60-70k (assuming S21U exchange discount, bank offers etc). If I was upgrading from S20U to S22U, I could justify it, but from the S21U, only time will tell if it's worth the money.

Yes this is pain as no one yet know what version release in India
According to some reports southeast countries will get SD so according to this we may get Exynos
I am planning to buy but want to go with international version, as its useless if you develop and no audience there. Let's see.

dr.ketan said:
Yes this is pain as no one yet know what version release in India
According to some reports southeast countries will get SD so according to this we may get Exynos
I am planning to buy but want to go with international version, as its useless if you develop and no audience there. Let's see.
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Looks like it is almost confirmed to be Snapdragon in India.

enigmaamit said:
For me, it's too early to decide based on rumours and conjecture alone. Will wait for a month after the device is out in people's hands before making the decision. I stayed back on A11 on my S21U so phone performance is still very good. Thankfully, i downgraded from A12 before the bootloader update so I was able to roll back. If A12 performance on S22U is similar to the S21U, I would stay clear of it.
As far as chipset is concerned, I don't really have an issue with the E2100. Unlike previous Exynos SoCs, I quite liked the E2100. It's very comparable to the SD888 performance, really closing the gap this year. In some aspects I actually prefer the E2100, especially is thermal performance and stand-by battery drain, when compared to the SD counterpart.
The S22U isn't offering anything more than an inbuilt stylus and a generational chipset upgrade. Not sure if the increase in performance will justify the extra cost of upgrading.
The phone has got to be something really special and miles ahead of the S21U for me to spend another 60-70k (assuming S21U exchange discount, bank offers etc). If I was upgrading from S20U to S22U, I could justify it, but from the S21U, only time will tell if it's worth the money.
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IMO, i feel the S21U will get atleast 65 to 75K easily in exchange because,
1. S21 Ultra is out of stock at most places
2. S21 Ultra prices, new at places with stock may not go down
3. S22 Ultra won't be much of an upgrade so people may opt to buy S21 Ultra at a lower price

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Sukrith said:
IMO, i feel the S21U will get atleast 65 to 75K easily in exchange because,
1. S21 Ultra is out of stock at most places
2. S21 Ultra prices, new at places with stock may not go down
3. S22 Ultra won't be much of an upgrade so people may opt to buy S21 Ultra at a lower price
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I agree, I sold my S21 Ultra for 65k but it took sometime for me to find a buyer. The prices should be in the 55k range for S21 Ultra after the release of S22U. But regardless of that with all the goodies they will give (hopefully), the nett cost shouldn't be more than 30-35k. The nett cost for my Note 20U to S21U transfer was 10k.

Eagerly waiting for S22U/S22+. Will be looking to pre-order from corporate website with +ve news of SD version, 4 major android version is confirmed. Just waiting for prices & offers. Will be upgrading from OP7T, so it should be big upgrade. Looking at the specs s22+ can be dark horse this year.
With SD version being released in more areas, there's high probability of good custom ROM scene.
Has anyone tried Samsung exchange program ? Any experience to share ?

amit_sen said:
Eagerly waiting for S22U/S22+. Will be looking to pre-order from corporate website with +ve news of SD version, 4 major android version is confirmed. Just waiting for prices & offers. Will be upgrading from OP7T, so it should be big upgrade. Looking at the specs s22+ can be dark horse this year.
With SD version being released in more areas, there's high probability of good custom ROM scene.
Has anyone tried Samsung exchange program ? Any experience to share ?
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From what i know, SD versions of Samsung devices have been locked down since the beginning with all the custom rom things happening for the Exynos.

Sukrith said:
From what i know, SD versions of Samsung devices have been locked down since the beginning with all the custom rom things happening for the Exynos.
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That's only with US version, not CH & Hongkong so it will be interesting to know which version of SD will be launced in india.
Model number ending with '0' shoule be rootable but U won't. e.g. 'S9080' can be rooted "S908U" can't.
exynos model usually ended with "B" (in case 5G ) e.g "S908B"

"Note" worthy, with minimal improvements,
For S21U users,
This isn't gonna be an upgrade.
It'll be a "next version released, so buying it" thingy.

Do we think we will have issues with BL unlock disabling cameras?

fkofilee said:
Do we think we will have issues with BL unlock disabling cameras?
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It shouldn't. Still need to know which version they are releasing in India.
Camera restriction they have applied on Fold3 but later with oneui 4.0 no more issue, so I don't think they will implement again

Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?

Virgo_Guy said:
Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?
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I think they will mention bank and other offers when they start taking pre-order this is just prereserve

Virgo_Guy said:
Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?
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I don't think the actual cashback and accessory discount offers will be displayed till the price has been announced and deals struck with banks (most probably HDFC again).

Isn’t it odd that India still doesn’t have pricing or preorder date or retail launch announced even 24 hours past the global launch? Been buying every S flagship day 1 preorders and I can recall all the way back to 7 years when we started getting pricing and preorder info immediately. Anyone knows if pre-reserve can be clubbed with preorder when it opens up later? Last year I didn’t bother with pre reserve but did preorder directly from the Samsung India website for the ultra.

twisted_mind said:
Isn’t it odd that India still doesn’t have pricing or preorder date or retail launch announced even 24 hours past the global launch? Been buying every S flagship day 1 preorders and I can recall all the way back to 7 years when we started getting pricing and preorder info immediately. Anyone knows if pre-reserve can be clubbed with preorder when it opens up later? Last year I didn’t bother with pre reserve but did preorder directly from the Samsung India website for the ultra.
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They have done it before too, pre-reserve is just there way of keeping the hype active. Pre-reserve will club with Pre-order as usual. There partner is going to be HDFC or ICICI only as they are with most bankable users who have proven record of buying Samsung Devices.
Yet we don't get the price level of US. There they are giving 512gb for price of 256gb & 256gb for 128gb. We wont have 128gb & base will be 256gb. Pricing may start 1L+ uptil 1.2L

anil84 said:
They have done it before too, pre-reserve is just there way of keeping the hype active. Pre-reserve will club with Pre-order as usual. There partner is going to be HDFC or ICICI only as they are with most bankable users who have proven record of buying Samsung Devices.
Yet we don't get the price level of US. There they are giving 512gb for price of 256gb & 256gb for 128gb. We wont have 128gb & base will be 256gb. Pricing may start 1L+ uptil 1.2L
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Yeah not worried about price. And 256 is what I anyways have on the 21 ultra so will go for 256 again. But the nation wants to know when the pre orders begin?

twisted_mind said:
Yeah not worried about price. And 256 is what I anyways have on the 21 ultra so will go for 256 again. But the nation wants to know when the pre orders begin?
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anytime before 21st feb

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Galaxy note 3 indian users thread

Galaxy note 3 and galaxy gear India availability dates confirmed as 25th September .
Eagerly waiting to replace my htc one with note 3
Though htc one was a good phone I still find samsung phones better in terms of usability
Source:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/samsung-...oming-to-india-on-september-25/420615-11.html
What do you think the price will be?
I am interested in this phone but only at a price of around 35k. Unfortunately I am guessing the opening price will be more like 45k and it will take at least six months to fall to 35.
Strategist said:
What do you think the price will be?
I am interested in this phone but only at a price of around 35k. Unfortunately I am guessing the opening price will be more like 45k and it will take at least six months to fall to 35.
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This is all rumors every Google search about the "Note 3 Price In India" info i got from the web. So take this post with a grain of salt.
Well it's gonna be over 45k not less than 60k at official launch because of high end specs,32\64GB Variants.
When will we see the official update well rumor has it that there might be an Note 3 launch event taking place in New Delhi on 17th September
after that we might see the exact pricing and pre-ordering. For more check this out -->http://www.igyaan.in/58585/exclusive...7th-september/
If your thinking about getting the Note 3 under 45 think be sure to read this: http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-gala...y-8mp-camera-variant-release-emerging-markets
According to them "Samsung would release LCD and AMLOED display variants of the Galaxy Note 3 in order to avoid supply shortages of its AMLOED displays the ET News article indicates that this LCD/8-megapixel camera variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 would likely account for 30 percent of the device’s initial production volume. There's no word on exactly which countries would receive this variant, but China, India and Brazil all qualify as emerging markets. Perhaps we may see Samsung orchestrate this component breakdown similarly to how it does with its processor variants, in which case more Asian, African and Middle Eastern countries would receive the LCD display and 8-megapixel camera variant of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. And European and North American countries would receive a variant with a different type of display, likely an AMLOED screen of some sort and a 13-megapixel camera."
So i guess the Note 3 16GB mini variant with 8 MP and LCD will be priced under 50k which of course is meant to target the Indian market. I mean come on do you think people in India would shell out 50 k for a phone excluding the super rich.
Again these are all rumored so don't be disappointed just yet.
Most likely by marketing strategy price would be somewhere between 45k to 50k
Galaxy s4 is already trading at 36 37k so the price at the most will be 50k and with the rupee easing now they should comprehensively price it at around 50k
IPhone 5s an epic fail.same as iPhone 5 with a finger print scanner which the whole world can get access to.
Hardly an app to make use of 64 bit architecture
But what does note 3 has to do with iFail
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doccrow said:
Most likely by marketing strategy price would be somewhere between 45k to 50k
Galaxy s4 is already trading at 36 37k so the price at the most will be 50k and with the rupee easing now they should comprehensively price it at around 50k
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I have already putted in Note 2 Forum that Box MRP is 54999 in India. No more details given by insider. Hopefully the darkness will get away at launch event on 17th.
iFail will never be able to make #Notefail.
I am impressed with note 3 after being a note 1 user for like 8 months... so yeah Note 3 for me on Diwali, which will complement my s4, and iPhone too
Lauch date is 17th and availability date is 25th?:what:
I think, it will be launched in price range near 42k - 43k. As all samsungs phones are launched at this price.
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Rumors of the price such high(45k above) are utter crap...
The device will carry an MRP of rs 42500 or 43200 and nothing else after a week or so...
All the blog posts are stating that price because they think the minimum storage of the device is 32gb(high price)... That's crap... They don't realize that 32gb is becoming a norm.
Plus, the price of dollar doesn't even have a say in the price of the device. Dollar is not responsible for the imports from an Asian country. :silly:
Its not the Indian rupee that has fallen against dollar, its the whole Asian currency that's falling.
after using n7000 and flashing many roms, i am hell sure that i am gonna buy N3.
damn look at those spec. :angel: heavenly.
if the battery gave me 4-6 hrs of onscreen time, then it is enough for me.
lets see...
:fingers-crossed:
i agree..it will probably be priced in the 42-45K range.
very impressive device, and was on my wishlist as soon as i heard about it...however, one of the major selling points for me...the fact that it could shoot 4K...is not going to be on the model released in india (4K is a feature of the snapdragon chip which is not being offered here). So it'll be just a speed and screen size upgrade over the note1 which i own currently...so i'll wait for 6 months rather than jump in immediately
an123 said:
i agree..it will probably be priced in the 42-45K range.
very impressive device, and was on my wishlist as soon as i heard about it...however, one of the major selling points for me...the fact that it could shoot 4K...is not going to be on the model released in india (4K is a feature of the snapdragon chip which is not being offered here). So it'll be just a speed and screen size upgrade over the note1 which i own currently...so i'll wait for 6 months rather than jump in immediately
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Anyway way we could get the snapdragon one in India?
if yes then i will surely try to buy that..
otherwise waiting for 6 -7 months is the only appropriate thing we could do. and also the plus point is that the prices will be reduced too
LeviathanAP said:
Anyway way we could get the snapdragon one in India?
if yes then i will surely try to buy that..
otherwise waiting for 6 -7 months is the only appropriate thing we could do. and also the plus point is that the prices will be reduced too
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I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
uv.mrcool said:
I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
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lets wait..
I'm probably gonna wait for months.
and see the first batch of productions. Till all the bugs and glitches will also be sorted.
well lets hope for the best.
N3 is gonna rule \m/
uv.mrcool said:
I think new octa would be better than snapdragon.
with 2.5x gpu and 20-30% increase in cpu power from the previous version.
HMP is a huge plus too.
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And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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MBariya said:
And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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that is the only reason i am preferring the snapdragon one.
thinking abt importing one.
MBariya said:
And it's back cover become like hotplate. Ready to make omelets on it.
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rofl
Samsung should have fixed it by now in the new revision
atleast we can hope
I think that it will be minimum 45k..this it because there was an increase of 5k from note 1 to note 2..and note 2 was available for 40k when it came out
XDA HellHound said:
I think that it will be minimum 45k..this it because there was an increase of 5k from note 1 to note 2..and note 2 was available for 40k when it came out
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I don't think that will be the case... Samsung is not gonna increase 5k on every iteration of the note series.
increasing 5k on every new device means we will be buying it in 1L some day. That's not gonna happen
S3 was also inflated in price according to S2, but S4 was launched with the same price as S3.
Same will be the case with Note 2 to Note 3 :good:
Tip: Don't buy the device in the first week of launch.

No Smartphones bigger than 5.7 inches in the U.S?

Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
cryingthug said:
nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.
As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
Better For The Eyes
mikkej2k said:
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
nathanotis said:
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
omniphil said:
The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
nathanotis said:
How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )
shdwphnx said:
The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Slbtrb79 said:
Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.
Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.

Who is getting one?

Not much hype around here yet but I'm getting excited. I've been strictly OnePlus 8 pro for the last 2 months or so and am ready to move on. I hope this is a worthwhile upgrade fror my Note 10 Plus or I'll hold out for the fold 2 this year. The next pixel is a no go with the slower processor and I'm sure they haven't improved storage capacity either. Such a shame.
As long as they offer solid trade in value for my Note 10+ I'm getting it.
I am expecting (hoping) for at least $600 in trade for my S20 Ultra. Assuming that happens, I will be buying a new Note 20 Ultra - Pre-Order and can't wait.
In all honesty, the bugs that the S20 Ultra Camera had (focus) are pretty much behind me now and the the S20 Ultra has been an awesome phone - but based on what I hear and have read, the new Note 20 Ultra will be a decent upgrade. Looking forward to seeing the Roll Out -
Nah, I'm getting Pixel 4a this time around to be my daily runner and I'll keep my N10+ for heavier tasks until the Note gets integrated 5G system so, probably 'til 2021/22.
Right now 5G is still not much relevant in my area, why pay more for unneeded hardware? I'm very happy now with Note 10+, after that annoying hit-or-miss fp sensor problem got resolved. Ironically, that problem wasn't fixed by Samsung but rather by inquisitive user – kudos to him/her.
Actually am getting very excited about that Pixel 4a, it has all the goodies I need and for only $350, like NFC, headphones jack and also Titan M Security Module, good camera/processing etc. A good pocket phone, something I really miss since I've had S10e before N10+. Similar overall size to 10e, plastic is fine with me for a pocket phone.
As long as I keep it in front, not the back pocket)
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chetly968 said:
I hope this is a worthwhile upgrade fror my Note 10 Plus or I'll hold out for the fold 2 this year. The next pixel is a no go with the slower processor and I'm sure they haven't improved storage capacity either. Such a shame.
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They have, it's 128GB now, ufs 2.1
I'm looking forward to see how well the Surface Duo will stack against the Note 20 in terms of productivity.
Note 20 Ultra or bust for me. Im ready!!!!
I'm definitely coming aboard
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I am expecting (hoping) for at least $600 in trade for my S20 Ultra. Assuming that happens, I will be buying a new Note 20 Ultra - Pre-Order and can't wait.
In all honesty, the bugs that the S20 Ultra Camera had (focus) are pretty much behind me now and the the S20 Ultra has been an awesome phone - but based on what I hear and have read, the new Note 20 Ultra will be a decent upgrade. Looking forward to seeing the Roll Out -
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I was given $700 off for my Note 10+ when it was traded for the S20 Ultra so it seems a fair value again given the cost of the device.
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I'm looking forward to see how well the Surface Duo will stack against the Note 20 in terms of productivity.
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Forgot about this one. I heard it may only pack the Snapdragon 855. Can't rememeber who said that. It's on my list for sure.
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Forgot about this one. I heard it may only pack the Snapdragon 855. Can't rememeber who said that. It's on my list for sure.
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I've heard about the Duo getting the 855 too (MAYBE the "+"?) either way, IMO MOST people would be really hard pressed to be able to tell a difference between the 2, if they aren't sitting in a side by side comparison. I think the biggest difference that will absolutely be noticeable, is the 120hz display on the N20U. I'm really looking forward to seeing that.
I think the Duo is an amazing concept that gets away from the form factor that is not really changing too much any longer. It's a refreshing change in direction and isn't a Galaxy Fold
Edit - Some rumors are saying that the device may ship with the 865
I'm getting one. But what about all these half/value tradein offers? Are any of those worth it rather than buying up front? I got burned by diminishing value on Samsung products years ago but they seem to hold value pretty well now.
I was really hoping the Note Ultra would fix what the S20 Ultra couldn't, being able to use WQHD+ with 120hz. Thats really a let down and kinda makes me want to skip this year.
Just pre-ordered Unlocked White 128GB Ultra
I was on a Note 9 and am a Veteran. I just preordered the Copper rather than the glossy Black. Samsung offered a $550 trade in on the Note 9 plus $200 in freebie accessories . I'll get the new buds and a case. It was too good for me to pass up. I just hope it isn't a dud like the Note 7.
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I was really hoping the Note Ultra would fix what the S20 Ultra couldn't, being able to use WQHD+ with 120hz. Thats really a let down and kinda makes me want to skip this year.
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no,is only 60hz
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Just pre-ordered Unlocked White 128GB Ultra
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I signed up for the Pre-order but the guy said that we won't be able to actually buy the "pre-order" until tomorrow (and the Note 20 should arrive by 8-21)
Did you actually buy the pre-order? Can I ask where? Just curious.....
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Also reserved the white 128gb Note 20 Ultra and trade in my blue Note 10+. I wish Samsung has the 512 options in white color, oh well.
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I signed up for the Pre-order but the guy said that we won't be able to actually buy the "pre-order" until tomorrow (and the Note 20 should arrive by 8-21)
Did you actually buy the pre-order? Can I ask where? Just curious.....
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I was able to buy the pre-order directly from Samsung https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-note20-5g/buy/ With a 8/21 ship date.
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no,is only 60hz
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Right, which is why I am skipping the 20 Ultra and staying with the Note10+.
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I was able to buy the pre-order directly from Samsung https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-note20-5g/buy/ With a 8/21 ship date.
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You arent actually buying anything, you dont enter any credit card info. This simply adds you to an email chain for tomorrows pre-order.
I put my preorder in for the White 128 but I may be hard pressed to make it my DD. I LOVE face unlock on my Pixel 4 XL and all the other Googly things that come with the Pixel phone. My Note 10+ got very little time with the SIM card in it after I bought the Pixel last fall. I do like the larger canvas of the Note, maybe the latest rumors are true and Google might release a large screen premium phone later in the year?

Tcl 10l 128gb @ $190

So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor balcony and got destroyed, talk about luck and number 13 ?, thank god I had a complete cloud backup of my phone's data and It was just a couple of days old, so no data was lost.
I'm using an ancient backup phone I had just for now until I decide what phone will I buy, but of course, I'm not going to buy a new Note, I plan to buy a mid-range phone so that I can do all my daily tasks, I use my phone a lot at work especially when I'm out of the office for calls, emails, PDF viewing, WhatsApp and Skype besides that there's social media consumption, web browsing, some amateur photography (I'm not a professional), music streaming, youtube, 9gag and light gaming like Egg Inc. and wait for the S21 or whatever Samsung decides to name it.
So I've found out that the TCL 10L 128GB is up for $190 where I am right now so I thought that it's a good idea to buy this one considering the specs and the price.
So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?
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So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor
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So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?
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For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.
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For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.
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Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L offer because is very inexpensive considering the other phones with the same specs.
And since I need a phone ASAP and won't be using it for more than 4 months I thought it would do fine.
So If the X3 is out will the 10L do fine handling my tasks for the time being considering the price.
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Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L
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for the time being considering the price.
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Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.
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Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.
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Great, thanks for the help.

Question Disappointing U.S. trade-in offers for S22 Ultra to upgrade to S23 Ultra

Last year, when I traded in my Galaxy S21 Ultra to get an unlocked Galaxy S22 Ultra on Samsung.com, I got a $1,000 trade-in pre-order deal, which meant I only paid about $250 for my Galaxy Ultra S22. The S23 series was just announced, so I looked at the Samsung site to see what trade-in deals they had for an unlocked S23 Ultra. Pretty underwhelming. Only $500 for an S22 Ultra, which would bring the cost to about $700. Sure, you get 512 GB for the price of 256 GB, but I don't really care about that (256 GB is plenty for me). If I could upgrade to S23 Ultra for about $250 to $300, I'd pre-order it in a heartbeat, but not at $700.
Bummer! (I know, first-world "problem"... ).
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Last year, when I traded in my Galaxy S21 Ultra to get an unlocked Galaxy S22 Ultra on Samsung.com, I got a $1,000 trade-in pre-order deal, which meant I only paid about $250 for my Galaxy Ultra S22. The S23 series was just announced, so I looked at the Samsung site to see what trade-in deals they had for an unlocked S23 Ultra. Pretty underwhelming. Only $500 for an S22 Ultra, which would bring the cost to about $700. Sure, you get 512 GB for the price of 256 GB, but I don't really care about that (256 GB is plenty for me). If I could upgrade to S23 Ultra for about $250 to $300, I'd pre-order it in a heartbeat, but not at $700.
Bummer! (I know, first-world "problem"... ).
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If you're ordering from the US, there's an additional $500 instant discount, not sure if this is available in other countries or, how long the offer is in effect.
I guess it's Samsung's way of pushing people to pull the trigger, FOMO on the $500 instant discount. Yeah, I agree, those trade in offers on their own are pathetic, you're better off checking out a carrier model vs unlocked direct from Samsung.
If you want 12GB RAM, moving up to the 512GB (or 1TB) storage option is necessary, as the 256GB storage option only has 8GB RAM.
No kidding. This really pissed me off. I thought I had missed something. Now not so sure I will switch up.
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If you're ordering from the US, there's an additional $500 instant discount, not sure if this is available in other countries or, how long the offer is in effect.
I guess it's Samsung's way of pushing people to pull the trigger, FOMO on the $500 instant discount. Yeah, I agree, those trade in offers on their own are pathetic, you're better off checking out a carrier model vs unlocked direct from Samsung.
If you want 12GB RAM, moving up to the 512GB (or 1TB) storage option is necessary, as the 256GB storage option only has 8GB RAM.
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Where is the $500 instant discount
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Where is the $500 instant discount
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It'll be applied once you select color/storage/trade-in. (on unlocked models only, you'll see the message right above where you select Yes/No for trade-in). The carrier models have a different trade-in allowance, you'll see different messaging in the same spot.
You'll see the pre-tax price at the bottom of the screen before you check out.
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It'll be applied once you select color/storage/trade-in. (on unlocked models only, you'll see the message right above where you select Yes/No for trade-in). The carrier models have a different trade-in allowance, you'll see different messaging in the same spot.
You'll see the pre-tax price at the bottom of the screen before you check out.
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It's the same $500 trade in price that they're referring as "total instant credit". There's no additional $500 discount other than the trade in discount reflected in the pre tax price.
it is really amusing for me to read about people complaining about things as op does, I have always paid the full price for all my devices, looking for those trade in, or signing never ending contracts looks to me like a pain the ass, better, you pay for your phone, walk out of the store, and that's it
It's not a $500 instant discount. I'd get a $500 trade-in discount for my Galaxy S22 Ultra to get an unlocked Galaxy S23 Ultra straight from Samsung. That's way worse than last year, when I got $1,000 to trade in my Galaxy S21 Ultra to get the Galaxy S22 Ultra. I'd have to pay about $700 now to trade in my Galaxy S22 Ultra for the S23 Ultra. That's simply not worth it to me. Had it been $300 or so, like last year, I would have done it, but not $700. Ah well, would have been nice, but my S22 Ultra is still a great phone.
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It's the same $500 trade in price that they're referring as "total instant credit". There's no additional $500 discount other than the trade in discount reflected in the pre tax price.
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Yeah, we're talking about the same thing,$500 + whatever device you're trading in for an unlocked model.
I'm guessing the $500 instant credit isn't going to be around much longer, if at all, past the pre-order period that ends on 2/17/2023.
My apologies if my choice of words led anyone to believe there was any other additional $500 discount.
winoles said:
it is really amusing for me to read about people complaining about things as op does, I have always paid the full price for all my devices, looking for those trade in, or signing never ending contracts looks to me like a pain the ass, better, you pay for your phone, walk out of the store, and that's it
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I'm curious what you do with your older phones if you're not trading them in. Samsung for the most part (not including this year) offered great values for trade ins in good working condition which means less headaches and hassle which is normally the case when you try to sell it yourself. Unless you're the exception and rock multiple phones as your daily driver.
winoles said:
it is really amusing for me to read about people complaining about things as op does, I have always paid the full price for all my devices, looking for those trade in, or signing never ending contracts looks to me like a pain the ass, better, you pay for your phone, walk out of the store, and that's it
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What never-ending contracts? This isn't about contracts, simply the phone itself. I'm specifically talking about buying an unlocked phone straight from Samsung, not tied to any carrier. That's basically the online version of "pay for your phone, walk out the store, and that's it" like you do. Use it with any carrier. I, for one, prefer to pay as little as possible for a phone, so if I can get a great trade-in discount like last year, I'm all in.
I was simply comparing this year's S23U trade-in offer to last year's S22U, and it's way worse than last year. Last year, I got way more for my phone as a trade-in than I would ever be able to get selling it on Craig's List or OfferUp. That's definitely not the case this year. I'll hang on to my S22 Ultra longer, which is totally fine with me.
you got it wrong, I spoke in general, about you, I was referring about the cumbersome procedure of sending the phone, waiting for them to judge for what ammount they assess it, etc. I just pay for the phone at the store and presto! , I never sell the phones I have used, I use them 2 or 3 years
yeah I`m with GoogleFI and I preordered through there, 600.00 instant discount and free upgrade to 512gb storage for the same price as the 256gb just like what samsung doing on there webiste, all I have too do is keep it activate on GooglefF for 120 days, so it was $635.99 total for the 512gb green color.
Edit: also the samsung phones on google fi are the unlocked versions.
dutch_in_seattle said:
Last year, when I traded in my Galaxy S21 Ultra to get an unlocked Galaxy S22 Ultra on Samsung.com, I got a $1,000 trade-in pre-order deal, which meant I only paid about $250 for my Galaxy Ultra S22. The S23 series was just announced, so I looked at the Samsung site to see what trade-in deals they had for an unlocked S23 Ultra. Pretty underwhelming. Only $500 for an S22 Ultra, which would bring the cost to about $700. Sure, you get 512 GB for the price of 256 GB, but I don't really care about that (256 GB is plenty for me). If I could upgrade to S23 Ultra for about $250 to $300, I'd pre-order it in a heartbeat, but not at $700.
Bummer! (I know, first-world "problem"... ).
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Exactly my feelings and situation right now. Pathetic game by Samsung. I was waiting all these days for the launch and willingness to upgrade. With just $500 for my s22u this doesn't make a sense at all to switch. S22u is so fast that any faster won't matter. It clicks good images too. With 700 plus taxes its not a worthy upgrade. Had it been around 350 usd i would have jumped into the wagon
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Exactly my feelings and situation right now. Pathetic game by Samsung. I was waiting all these days for the launch and willingness to upgrade. With just $500 for my s22u this doesn't make a sense at all to switch. S22u is so fast that any faster won't matter. It clicks good images too. With 700 plus taxes its not a worthy upgrade. Had it been around 350 usd i would have jumped into the wagon
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What particularly irks me is that you get a higher trade-in discount for a previous-generation iPhone 13 Pro Max than their own Galaxy S22 Ultra. Awesome way to reward brand loyalty.
The S23 will be just like all other phones.. People will buy them. Then not long after haveing it, they will complain about how bad the camera is. Or O Samsung dropped the ball, this phone is no differnet than bla bla bla before it.. I prchase my S22 Ultra back in April of last year.. I paid in full $1400. It does what I need it to do, Call, Text, Surf, email.. That is all I need it for.. Unless the phone can do the following 1. Brush my teeth, 2. flush the toilet, or 3. cook me dinner.. I will not be purchasing a new phone until at least this one dies.
BTW Iphones are like Toyota's they hold their value.. Samsung is like American cars. Pay high price, then watch the value drop, one you leave the store.
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The S23 will be just like all other phones.. People will buy them. Then not long after haveing it, they will complain about how bad the camera is. Or O Samsung dropped the ball, this phone is no differnet than bla bla bla before it.. I prchase my S22 Ultra back in April of last year.. I paid in full $1400. It does what I need it to do, Call, Text, Surf, email.. That is all I need it for.. Unless the phone can do the following 1. Brush my teeth, 2. flush the toilet, or 3. cook me dinner.. I will not be purchasing a new phone until at least this one dies.
BTW Iphones are like Toyota's they hold their value.. Samsung is like American cars. Pay high price, then watch the value drop, one you leave the store.
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totally agree with you, even my beloved galaxy note 7 performed very well after 4 years of use, when somebody stole it from my son, the things is, some people have unrealistic expectations about the latest premium devices, I try to get all the pertinent info before buying , I have had Sammsung devices since the S3, after, I moved to the note series, now I returned to the S, just because the ultra model is the new note
Watching this thread, looking for best deal??? Yeah, Samsung is not giving any good deals when I looked. Better yet, I have tmobile, when I went to see what trade in was for my s22 ultra was. unbelievable $150!!!!! Are they nuts??????
Ken
Yep not a very good deal on Samsung website. Even with my perkspot discount I will end up paying around $700 for 512 GB. But then I saw email from my carrier, Google Fi. They are giving me 512 GB version for $600 plus $300 trade-in value for Galaxy S22 Ultra. So, I guess it's pretty good deal for me through Fi. In the end I'll only end up paying $300.
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Watching this thread, looking for best deal??? Yeah, Samsung is not giving any good deals when I looked. Better yet, I have tmobile, when I went to see what trade in was for my s22 ultra was. unbelievable $150!!!!! Are they nuts??????
Ken
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That's why, if it still works, and if the S23 does not have anything breath taking comepared to the S22. Then why in the world would people want to get a new phone.

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