General Google Fi does not support the Galaxy Watch 4 eSIM - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

Sadness :'(

Yeah super bummed too. May have to send it back and wait for Pixel watch, which if it does have an LTE version will most likely support Fi

Having this issue right now i just got my watch today from pre order cant get den app to work also got told by google fi rep that its not supported right now he forwarded it to the team

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Project Fi

I have ordered a SIM kit for Project Fi and it will be arriving tomorrow. I know Google says only Nexus Devices are supported and I have one on order, but I saw a video on Youtube where someone put the Project Fi SIM in his T-Mobile Galaxy S6 and it worked.
Curious if anyone has tried doing the same with a Verizon Galaxy S6?
bretrick30 said:
I have ordered a SIM kit for Project Fi and it will be arriving tomorrow. I know Google says only Nexus Devices are supported and I have one on order, but I saw a video on Youtube where someone put the Project Fi SIM in his T-Mobile Galaxy S6 and it worked.
Curious if anyone has tried doing the same with a Verizon Galaxy S6?
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According to wikipedia, T-mobile uses bands 2, 4 and 12 while Sprint uses 2, 25, 26 and 41.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Verizon says the VZW S6 only supports bands 4 and 13.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s6/
So with that I would say no but doesnt hurt to give it a shot :good:
Let us know if it works. I'm curious too.
Give it a shot
Definitely interested to see if would work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/project-fi-galaxy-s6-t3214680
Still, best of luck to you.

3g version coming; will it work with non Samsung phones?

The 3G version of this watch is coming in the next 2 weeks or so, and I am unable to find anything about whether or not you can use it with a non samsung phone..
I know the "non 3G" version works with most modern Android phones, and I know it will work with my Nexus 6..
My question is, does any one know for certain if I can use the 3G version, when it comes out, with my Nexus 6, or will the 3G version only work with Samsung phones?
I'm going to call Samsung tomorrow and ask, but I trust the folks here on XDA to know alot more than someone on their CS line will
Thanks!
It works just as the Bluetooth version does with compatible other phones.
do you have a link to the owners manual for the 3G model?
thanks
will it be able to connect blue tooth . i am on cricket wireless so not sure if i can add it to my plan
Anyone hear on the tmobile version tmobile hasn't sent the email out or Twitter or anyone from tmo will confirm
supposedly, you can call in today and order it, and stores in my area,(chicagoland) all say they should have them to sell Monday
Finely found a store that had it after 3 stores I got it
I called at least 6 stores, and none had it in suburban chicago; a couple said they should have them Monday, but I played it safe and ordered over the phone from T-Mo
Free over night shipping, and, you get 20 days to decide if you want to return it, vs 14 days when you buy in store..
I can wait one more day, at this point!
Yea messed up my account tho they cancelled my gear s for some reason I didn't want to add the new s2 yet because my gear s is at samsung for repair and didn't know if I wanted to keep the service on the gear s or s2 yet also they still charge u 15 for a sim when there's not even a sim in the damn thing
Works with some voice connection issues on N6P with Verizon.
ocjelf said:
Anyone hear on the tmobile version tmobile hasn't sent the email out or Twitter or anyone from tmo will confirm
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its already out
smooth6652 said:
its already out
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Thanks I figured it's sitting on my wrist also look at the date I posted it have a good day
works perfectly on my rooted Nexus 6 with a custom rom on T mobile

Gear S2 and samsung pay not working

I just recently bought the samsung gear s2 because i wantef samsung pay in my watch. I saw there was an open beta for it. I go into Samsung Gear manager on my phone and yes its it the latest update 2.2.1 and my watch is updated as well, but samsung pay is not there. I saw that the update for samsung pay beta is in the next update past 2.2.1, but it keeps yelling me im in the lastest verson of the app. Its now augest 11th 2016 and the update was in july. I have att service if that makes a difference. Can anyone help or explain why its not there?
Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the Samsung Pay Beta only works with the WiFi versions of the Gear S2 and it isn't currently available for the Cellular versions.
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Also you have to have a Samsung phone
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The beta is now opened to 3G S2 watch models..... Although I can't get mine working.... Installed fine, loaded cards but fails to work....
I now have this same problem. Samsung pay was working, I updated the watch on 02-12-2017 now pushing the back button and holding does nothing.
At least you got cards to load, what phone are you using. i have the 3G model, and i have tried loading about 6 different cards, i even ask friends that use apple pay with their cards if i can try and load it, and then delete if it does, and cant get it to take a card. And EVERY card i have tried is on the list that it is available to be loaded.
I have the S2 classic Tmobile with Note 5. I've found that Samsung Pay works hit or miss, depending on where you are trying to use it. Not sure if it's specific store's equipment issues or what.
BPRN said:
I have the S2 classic Tmobile with Note 5. I've found that Samsung Pay works hit or miss, depending on where you are trying to use it. Not sure if it's specific store's equipment issues or what.
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Try processing the transaction as credit instead of entering a PIN. I've found that works much more reliably. I use SPay on my S3 almost exclusively (keeping a physical card only for backup) with success 9 times out of 10.
Edit: I don't know for sure, but parameters set by the financial institution may also impact reliability.

Question eSim on Google Fi in the US?

I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
Thanks,
Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
entropism said:
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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twistedumbrella said:
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
chompx2 said:
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
Markeee said:
I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.​
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.​
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
chompx2 said:
Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.

Question Getting a Verizon data plan for the Galaxy Watch 4 with OnePlus 9 Pro Phone

I just got the Galaxy watch yesterday and trying to set up a data plan for it through Verizon. Does anyone have an idea if that's possible with the OnePlus 9 pro phone? Verizon tech support said it's not possible, but I have a feeling that it can be done. Please let me know if you have any suggestions for me.
If it is LTE and is compatible with Verizon's network, then yes. It would be a separate data only line on your account. You need to talk to Verizon's sales support not tech support.
I haven't checked. Still im 99% sure Verizon offers esim. What company DOESNT offer esim in 2022?
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If it is LTE and is compatible with Verizon's network, then yes. It would be a separate data only line on your account. You need to talk to Verizon's sales support not tech support.
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Verizon does not offer a stand alone plan for the GW4. They did for the Active 1 and Active 2.
With the GW4 they only support "number share". To use number share you must have a Verizon phone.
Same situation here. Have a GW4 and a OnePlus 9 Pro and cannot use the LTE in the watch.
There is no technical reason why the GW4 won't do standalone. There is also no reason why a OnePlus 9 Pro can't do number share.
The decision were made by bean counters.
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Verizon does not offer a stand alone plan for the GW4. They did for the Active 1 and Active 2.
With the GW4 they only support "number share". To use number share you must have a Verizon phone.
Same situation here. Have a GW4 and a OnePlus 9 Pro and cannot use the LTE in the watch.
There is no technical reason why the GW4 won't do standalone. There is also no reason why a OnePlus 9 Pro can't do number share.
The decision were made by bean counters.
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Are you a Verizon customer? I am. You have to add a line, it is a data only line. I know this because I just checked with Verizon.
If the OP's watch is compatible with Verizon's LTE, all he needs to do is add a line to his account for the watch. He has to talk a sales rep, not a tech support rep.
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Are you a Verizon customer? I am. You have to add a line, it is a data only line. I know this because I just checked with Verizon.
If the OP's watch is compatible with Verizon's LTE, all he needs to do is add a line to his account for the watch. He has to talk a sales rep, not a tech support rep.
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I have been a Verizon customer since it was called GTEMobilnet (look it up).
You are right all you do is add a line and specify that line for "number share". They will not allow a standalone plan for a Galaxy Watch 4.
Number share does not work for a OnePlus 9 Pro. I have been down this road with Verizon multiple times when the watch was released. I have the exact problem that OP has.
It is not solvable unless Verizon changes it's policy for the Galaxy Watch.
Repeat after me; "It is not possible right now and may never be."
You can also look at reddit and see how frustrating it is to others.

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