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I am running Dman's rooted stock UCLB3 with Entropy's DD and Voodoo Lagfix. I love the setup but one this is really bothering me: I can't set the screen security time. I like the screen to go off in 15 - 30 seconds, but I want to be able to decide how long it will be until I have to use the security unlock. Now, there used to be a setting for this under Location and Security, but for some reason it is no longer there. Is it this ROM or is this missing from all 2.3.6 builds (i.e. stock)?
In case you aren't following me, I am attaching two screenshots, one from Samsung's website, the other from my phone. As you can see there is no "Timeout" menu on my phone. Was this somehow stripped from Dman's ROM (not impossible since the android.policy.jar file - the one that I believe is related to this menu - sometimes encounters issues from deodexing) or is this feature just gone from the phone? If it was stripped, how might I go about getting it back?
This is driving me mad right now, so I'd love to hear a definitive answer.
The setting that you are looking for can be found under Settings / Display. It wasn't stripped, you're just not in the correct menu.
No, that is a different setting. You'll notice that the display setting is to determine when the display will go to sleep (when it will automatically turn off), the setting I am talking about determines when the screen will lock after the screen turns off.
There are two programs with similar functions: Delayed Lock and JuiceDefender Ultimate. However, I suspect that the phone setting is still partially alive somewhere because both programs seem to wreak havoc with whatever settings are now default.
Oh, okay, now I understand. That feature isn't available in stock UCLB3, and there were no issues when deodexing.
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Thanks. That's basically the answer I wanted. I've been poking through the guts of both the stock and rooted builds trying to find out what happened. It is really irritating that it's not there (well, for me it is!) because the security screen seems to have a mind of its own, particularly if you introduce alternative lockers into the mix.
For anyone who may be interested, you may be able to set the timeout by editing values in the android.policy.jar file in framework folder. Search around, you'll find instructions. I haven't tried this.
The two apps I have found that enable this functionality are Delayed Lock and Juice Defender Ultimate. However, neither app works well with 3rd party security locks such as Go Locker. The lock delay apps trigger the system security screen lock so you may have to go through as many as 3 screens before you get to your home screen.
Sorry, there is one other app: Password Delay. I did not try this because I want to use a pattern lock. PD does not work with patterns.
Yeah, join the club lol. I just learned to deal with it after a while. But I hear you. Tried looking for some alternative ideas... and I just kept unlocking everytime.
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Thing is, I made an alarm clock app that forces user to do some stuff before turning off alarm - classic.
But for some time now, I have been receiving mails from users asking me to add feature that won't let them (quickly) turn off alarm while it is playing, that including force stop or uninstalling with Applications Manager, or turning phone off with power off button.
For some time I got off asking how would I stop them from just taking battery out, but some stated it is not about completely blocking option to stop app, but to make it so time consuming or complicated, that doing it will wake them up anyway (some turn phone off without opening eyes).
Quick ways of stopping application that I have found and that I need to block, are:
- power off phone
- go to Applications Manager and use Force Stop
- other, ROM added ways - as for example, one user wrote, that his ROM lets him quickly stop running apps by long pressing back button
From what I know, blocking any of above is officially impossible. But is it possible with root access?
After doing some research, I didn't found any way to just block application from being stopped/uninstalled, so I have to ask
(ACTUAL QUESTION)
Is it possible (with root access or not) to block user from stopping app in any way? Or at least making it really timeconsuming?
Any help appreciated!
Kogerro said:
First some backstory (skip it if not interested)
Thing is, I made an alarm clock app that forces user to do some stuff before turning off alarm - classic.
But for some time now, I have been receiving mails from users asking me to add feature that won't let them (quickly) turn off alarm while it is playing, that including force stop or uninstalling with Applications Manager, or turning phone off with power off button.
For some time I got off asking how would I stop them from just taking battery out, but some stated it is not about completely blocking option to stop app, but to make it so time consuming or complicated, that doing it will wake them up anyway (some turn phone off without opening eyes).
Quick ways of stopping application that I have found and that I need to block, are:
- power off phone
- go to Applications Manager and use Force Stop
- other, ROM added ways - as for example, one user wrote, that his ROM lets him quickly stop running apps by long pressing back button
From what I know, blocking any of above is officially impossible. But is it possible with root access?
After doing some research, I didn't found any way to just block application from being stopped/uninstalled, so I have to ask
(ACTUAL QUESTION)
Is it possible (with root access or not) to block user from stopping app in any way? Or at least making it really timeconsuming?
Any help appreciated!
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With root most things are possible but I would think it would be something that could easily be done..otherwise every malicious app out there would use it to make it hard for the user to stop it from doing what have malicious thing its doing
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With root most things are possible but I would think it would be something that could easily be done..otherwise every malicious app out there would use it to make it hard for the user to stop it from doing what have malicious thing its doing
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I guess that you meant "I would think it wouldn't be something that could easily be done"
I don't really know much about possibilities of rooted devices etc., but isn't it that every app has to get some kind of "root persmissions" to perform such tasks? So first any malicious app would need to receive that permission from user.
I am currently having hard time trying to find a way to copy behaviour of (default) Maps application - when it gets Force Stopped (in All tab of Applications Manager) with also stopping all of its services (in Running), it will start running after some time anyway. Anybody knows how thats possible?
Anyway - my real question is - is there some place (like wiki or faq) that one could read about possibilities opened by device rooting? What services, config files etc. can be used or is it that everyone trying to do some knew just have to try everything on his own?
I have been looking around for the exact same thing for a few hours now but unsuccessful. I know its possible to do it without root because an app in the play store called "App Lock" is able to do it. I'm not 100 percent sure but I believe its some sort of broadcast they are filtering. I just dont know which
in app juice defender ultimate you can choose applications which you won't kill
I would try to move the app to /system/app folder and set the permissions to rw-r--r-- using an app like ES File Explorer. Or use Titanium backup and long press and scroll down to 'convert to system app', and make sure to clear data afterwards.
any update on this, i have managed to kill my alarm several times this week. and being late for work is never popular.
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
ApTeM said:
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I too cannot believe this was left as a feature... I was hoping that would be fixed in the final version.
Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
ApTeM said:
Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
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I agree but there's nothing in android. 3rd party lock screen is the only way.
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
cluster78 said:
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
simms22 said:
does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
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But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
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But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
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even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
simms22 said:
even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
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If i do that it prompts to unlock the phone
Heck, I'm not even worried about the security situation with this, I just want to disable it because I think it is extremely poorly executed!
It offers nothing that power toggles doesn't, and is not even configurable for what options are present. I never use auto-rotate, cast screen, invert colors, etc, and yet, those options are available instantly!
cluster78 said:
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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They can also just remove the sim card or turn it off.
What I am looking for, is for the only possible thing you can do, while the phone is locked, is enter the password. Is there a way to set that up? Not be able to toggle any settings at all or remove the quick settings(I am ok with the emergency calling and camera widget, since you can't access the pictures on the phone until entering the password). I know they could still remove the sim or power off the phone but at least it might buy some more time if your phone gets stolen for you to track it or snap a pic of the thief. It would be nice if you could also disable the power menu and volume buttons while on the lock screen.
For now, until other solution is found or developed, you can go to notification settings and in 'When device is locked' change the setting to 'Hide sensitive notification content'. This disables access to quick settings from the lock screen but also hides titles of notifications, so you will see the notifications for emails, texts etc., but their content will be hidden.
This doesn't work. Well, if you have root and xposed you can install "Advanced Power Menu" to control the power menu on lockscreen etc and with GravityBox you can control the items on the quick settings. But I still couldn't figure out a way to totally disable it on the lockscreen.
As I remember the "X posed" Module "Notification Mod" could do exactly this. Problem is: It seems that development is discontinued and the stable ver1.2 doesn't (on my lollipop custom rom) work on 5.x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-notification-mod-t2501926/page23#post62958859
I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
No way to disable access to quiick settings on lock screen on unrooted Android M....
Try the Market anyway,
One solution for me on Android 6.01 was to disable WiFi, Bluetooth, Airplane Mode, Mobile Data from Quick Settings using Systen UI Tuner in Settings then downloaded Settings Extended app at the Market and moved all mentioned in SE's Notification Shortcut. Don't forget to enable "HIDE LOCK SCREEN NOTIFICATION" in Preferences which is the objective of all this anyway. So don't forget to ｃｌｉｃｋ this.
You can even disable everything in Quick Settings and instead put them all in SE Notification as Shortcuts. What's great about SE is that its Notification gets the icon color/shade/background color/color when toggled etc. perfectly in Android 6. Exactly the same. It looks like its really part of the Notification Screen except that there's that horizontal gap that separates the notifications and makes the screen fiddle faddle.
Try it anyway. It might be your only hope against lock screen vulnerability in unrooted Android 6.0 phones.
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I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
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I have the same problem with my S7. Its weird that you cant change the wifi or bluetooth without unlocking the phone but when you select mobile data or airplane mode you can turn that off from the lockscreen so when your phone gets stolen, the thief can so easy turn that off that there is no way to trace your phone. Why do they even call this a smart phone while its so dumb?
ApTeM said:
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I must apologise first, I’m not a nerdy-head about android, but I was thinking about my new phone (upgraded to A7) and your question is one that I sought out for answers.
In Nougat, I logged in as Guest and used a pin for the user so that a ‘guest’ can’t access the Guest account without my permission.
Then comes you’re question.
You can remove all the worrisome quick start icons from your quick settings (probably leave flashlight). Then use a 3rd party app (Notification Toggle is mine) which isn’t available to a user from a protected login.
As I’ve never had a lollypop viable phone I’m afraid another user might need to help you with a more detailed method for A5.
Hope it helps somewhat. As an old 8080 machine code programmer, it was always about solving problems and then working the bugs out. I'm not even sure how to post on these - socially thingy’s.
This issue it's still there in Nougat, so before it is passed on to Android O, we have to POPULARIZE this issue so they(Android developers) know how big of a pain in the ass it is. I'm posting the complaints to every forum, magazine, fan page, etc. When it's on the social media, they have to do something. This issue has survived because people don't want their friends to know about it, coz it's partly embarrassing...
I received the phone and have been using it since 2/10. I have the 8/256gb version with the Chinese ROM. The phone is awesome with regards to build quality and so on, but I'm extremely frustrated with the issues that I'm seeing daily. I'm ready to ditch it and return to my Xiaomi Mi Mix.
Notifications are all turned off by default and every app notification must be turned on individually. So every new app needs this manual step.
Notifications, even if enabled correctly, lock screen, does not show up on the lock screen
Various apps do not receive new "data" such as emails until opened. (runs in background, just noticed the application freeze option, and turned that off)
Device Administrator removes MS Outlook as device admin regularly, used to be daily. (required by work)
When plugged into USB-C for Android Auto, must change setting to Transfer files, every time in order to activate Android Auto.
Resets Assistive Voice App nightly, removes Google Assistant and elects none, not even breeno voice.
Depending on task, it switches to use the Breeno Browser instead of Chrome as an intermediary and therefore does not fully like to the next task.
Swiping down on home screen brings up breeno search via breeno browser.
Cannot activate Location Sharing Services even if Location is turned on. I think this has to do w/ limitations on the "Region"
Things that I know does not work
Cannot use 3rd party messaging app. Once 3rd party app is set as default, it switches back to Oppo msgs app due to "security"
Cannot use another Launcher.
Cannot use Google Assistant wake up phrase
Can anyone else confirm if you're also experiencing the above? I'm willing to reset the phone but I think these are "defaults" and not like a choice I made during set-up to cause these issues. Thanks for reading.
The issues you mention are common and are part of the challenge of owning a phone with a Chinese rom. The trade-off is that you own a unique phone with awesome hardware.
I have been able to get all notifications to work though adjusting the notification options as you say, but you can also adjust the power saver and start-up options. You can also lock apps in the recent tasks screen.
You can also uninstall some of the built-in Chinese apps via adb. See the thread in the Find X forum. For example I have uninstalled the browser so it never comes up. I have not uninstalled the launcher as I am ok with the Oppo one.
Issues I have not been able to resolve: changing the default messaging and assistant apps for the long term.
For me, I know the experience of buying a phone with a Chinese rom is never going to be as smooth as a pixel or Samsung in terms of usability, but I love the fact that it is unique and appreciate the hardware (eg charging speed).
Unfortunately, the uniqueness of the phone does not overwhelm these limitations that causes daily resetting of certain defaults for me.
I'm ok w/ not using the Launcher and some other items like google assistant. However, other limitations really create barriers that can't be looked past for me.
I think I'll look for an opportunity to get the Xiaomi Mi 10 pro when possible and sell the Reno Ace.
When I use facial recognition to unlock and app, after my face is recognized, before I can go into the app, I get a screen that is showing a message: "Verified. Tap confirm to continue". I am trying to get rid of that message and avoid the unnecessary extra step to press the confirm button before I can access the app. I am told by an app manufactured that it is a setting on my Samsung S22 Ultra with Android 12. But I am coming from an old Pixel phone and cannot find this setting on my new 22Ultra. Can someone direct me to the setting to turn off that extra step after facial recognition works? Thanks!
Sounds like you've installed some 3rd party app that does this. The default S22 behaviour doesn't show this message.
I can see you asked on other fourms, and they suggested things I was going to say. But it seems like some third party app is either doing this, or enforcing it.
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Sounds like you've installed some 3rd party app that does this. The default S22 behaviour doesn't show this message.
I can see you asked on other fourms, and they suggested things I was going to say. But it seems like some third party app is either doing this, or enforcing it.
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Yes I posted on another forum but no solution there yet, just a few good suggestions that don't work. I don't have any other apps that enforce this behavior though. And I pressed support at RoboForm pretty hard about it and they insist it is not something in their app even though RoboForm is an app that it happens in. I am thinking it is when certain 3rd party apps are opened using face recognition, the Android system does not acknowledge those apps for some reason and pops up the message to do a 2nd confirmation before it will allow the apps to open. Thanks for the reply.
Have you tried unistalling Roboform to test if that fixes it?
I have found a few other apps that call up the exact same message so it is not just Roboform. I did uninstall and reinstall Roboform today for another reason and called up a health record app that does the same thing. It happened in the health app even with Roboform uninstalled.
I think we have determined that it is a system message. An app may call it up or trigger it when using face recognition but it is not generated by the app itself. If we knew what it was called then it would be easier to track it down. within Android or the Samsung settings. if it is even in the settings somewhere.
Yea, it's likely going to be a system message, that is called by certain apps in certain circumstances. But the only way you'll find it is to remove apps a few at a time until it stops appearing.
I get the same message and have looked everywhere for a setting. It doesn't exist. Pretty stupid behavior for sure.
Is there a solution? I have the same thing with Microsoft apps. So stupid..
Try: Settings, Biometrics and Security, Face Recognition, And untick: Stay on lockscreen until swipe.
For me, double tapping the screen or using the power button to wake the phone, triggers the face unlock which then quickly unlocks the phone with no other input.
Is this just one app, or all apps?