Hi all
Can someone kindly check which bands are supported? There seems to be no official information from Samsung which is a bit odd. Makes me think the Exynos version supports a fair few less bands vs the Snapdragon version. I also asked Samsung support and noticed in their reply following bands are missing:
B18, B19, B25, B26, B32, B38 and B66
I haven't fact-checked it but Techwalls has a rundown: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s21-plus-5g...
@C0derbear it does look more plausible vs. what Samsung support says (sigh they can be so clueless but I keep thinking it must be a lousy job and don't blame them). Do you own a S21+? We can probably cross check using a dial code or a tool (no root required AFAIK)
I do have one, I have a US unlocked (direct from samsung) with a Verizon SIM card at this time.
Oh I see. I need someone with an Exynos. They can try this:
and post some screenshots.
I've been using the exynos s21 ultra on t-mobile and it supports all the lte bands plus one 5g band. You don't get a 5g symbol on the status bar, instead you get a 4g+ symbol. I've tested the speeds between this phone and the t-mobile plus 9 pro and they're exactly the same. The only difference is that calls take up to 5 seconds to connect compared to the one plus which is instant. I hope this information helps anyone on the fence about purchasing an exynos variant.
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Hello everyone. As many of us first posters here, I have a problem:
I've bought an north american J327U from someone I know, and that person only used it at home with their wi-fi. It's got an Exynos chipset, and no support for the LTE bands from where I live in (which are completely different from the USA's LTE bands).
After quite a bit of research, I found here and elsewhere methods to change LTE support for Qualcomm devices, but had no luck finding any for Exynos devices. Is there any way to do the same thing for devices with Exynos chipset, or am I stuck with no LTE? I also know it deppends on the hardware support for that, in my case I would need support for bands 3 (1800mhz), 7 (2600mhz) and 28 (700mhz). The phone covers none of those.
My device is not yet rooted, but I'm fine with doing so if needed.
Thanks in advance for any help.
I don't think you can physically change the bands unfortunately.
So after searching around the internet and forums and discovering the 5G model is basically not receiving the same attention as the 4G I was wondering if any developers could answer me this, is it possible to convert the phone somehow? Of course I aren't expecting to use 5G if it is possible ( it's the only model EE offer) so had no choice but after reading that updates are none existent and there is no custom ROM support nor are we eligible for android beta programs ??*
In short: No.
I've seen it smart 5g but modem is the question best to ask a Dev who builds kernel 5g has a ways to go by next OnePlus release trade up is best way
Not really, no. AFAIK (I've done zero research on this so I can very possibly be wrong), the SOC in the 4G version is different from the 5G version because the SOC of the 4G version (System on Chip/Card, basically the CPU etc) does not support a 5G modem and antenna.
As I understand it, the difference between the 4G and 5G variants is similar to the difference between a Snapdragon and Exynos Galaxy S8,9, etc.
Again, I could be wrong about this and it's just how it was explained to me prior to the phone being released when I asked if it's possible that the 4G version could have the hardware for 5G and just not be enabled until 5G is available in your area, because there was a time when OnePlus was making a blanket statement that the OP7 Pro would be 5G, and said nothing about a 4G variant even being a possibility.
Hello, I'd buy Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra with Snapdragon chipset. But now is complicated. I don't know which one is better to buy N986U1 or N9860? I'll not root phone, even if I'll root than no problem with USA variant to unlock bootloader (xda-developers I read one thread samsung pwned). Other thing is 5G. Will it work in UK or not? I read tutorial how to enable all bands on LTE, 5G via service menu, so maybe will work. I'll be happy if FM radio works.
N9860 (TGY - Hong Kong) should work with 5G on the Three network in the UK, probably also with Vodafone. Definitely not with EE. Not much feedback about O2.
But the N9860 is getting appalling support from Samsung. No Android 11 yet and still stuck on November security updates. When updates are released they can undo service menu changes required to enable 4G+.
I can't comment on how the experience might be in the UK with the US versions, but so far I'm not impressed with Samsung and this phone. The hardware is great. The imported software support is a scandal. I would probably not risk importing again.
Thanks for repley. Maybe now doesn't makes a sense between Snapdragon and Exynos variant. Most S10 Plus, Note 10 Plus previously been imported from USA. But for Note 20 Ultra is absolutely different more from China. What is the reason for it. Because bootloader vy default can be unlocked or something specific. I'm using EE. So if 5G doesn't work I'll not worry so much.
I get up to 200 Mbps on EE with 4G+ and I'm really not sure whether the 5G coverage extends to my neighbourhood, so I'm not fussed that 5G does not work for me. I tried to find signal where it is claimed to exist and got nothing. 4G+ coverage is very good for me though, so happy days.
I don't know why it does not work. The required bands are supported and I've tested with 5G SIMs from EE, 3 and Voxi. I've contacted EE support and Samsung (UK) support and nobody gives a **** as the phone is imported.
My only real beef is the complete lack of updates. My S10+ is more up to date than this N9860. I have no idea why Samsung are dragging their feet over this specific model.
I will say this the N986U1 do get updates frequently and I'll the specs far as signals in your area
dallen5 said:
I will say this the N986U1 do get updates frequently and I'll the specs far as signals in your area
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Thanks, I had Note 10 Plus with Snapdragon USA for short time and coverage was very better than with Exynos. With Snapdragon signal was perfect but with Exynos was weak and many times impossible to make calls.
Nettwerk said:
Thanks, I had Note 10 Plus with Snapdragon USA for short time and coverage was very better than with Exynos. With Snapdragon signal was perfect but with Exynos was weak and many times impossible to make calls.
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Yea I had the Exynos Note 9 and the signal sucked in the US
Thanks for repley, so, I bought Note 20 Ultra USA variant.
N9860 has got Android 11 on Feb 3rd. And it is amazing.
Phone recieved and I'm happy with it. Flashed XAA U1 and no problem at all. Only for the moment is it issue on my side or phone, but ebay app doesn't work. It says:"
Try searching for something above or tap "Reload" to try again. Rest apps works without issues.
Update: I believe it was ebay issue. eBay app working now. All is perfect.
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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Looks like 5G Bands 5 & 41, that's it, if this source is accurate:
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra: Price, specs and best deals
Here you will find where to buy the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra Global · 12GB · 1TB · SM-S908B, for the cheapest price from over 140 stores constantly traced in kimovil.com
www.kimovil.com
tripdastati0n said:
Can you explain what that means. Maybe explain like your doing it to a 6 year old so I understand
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Well, not knowing which carrier you use, I don't know what else to say.... Perhaps take a look at the source the next time you're not "Baked AF".....
No ill will intended, but, if you give the site a good look, you'll be able to figure it out.
tripdastati0n said:
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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The most reliable way to ensure your device will support 5G is aquire your Service Provider's device.
Typically with the Exynos variants you can access root but since it's a brand new version ask a Exynos user if bootloader unlock is available in developer options. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Again typlically only the Snapdragon version from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong (SM-G9080) will offer unlocking the bootloader. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Be aware OneUI 4.1 may have eliminated bootloader unlock.
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Thanks bud, what a gentleman I have tmobile in the US. So your saying if I get a tmobile exynos I can have 5g in the US no prob? And is snapdragon s22 ultra rootable or is it just the exynos version?
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The T-Mobile device is a Snapdragon variant, if that's your carrier and you need 5G it's your best option. The T-Mobile device, if it's the same as it's predecessor the S21 Ultra, can't be rooted. T-Mobile only sells Snapdragon variants.
My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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Yep, I have the SM-G9980 on T-Mobile and Network Mode displays 5G but it never connects. For me 5G is close to useless and I'd rather not have T-mobile's bloatware and prefer the unlocked bootloader. Not to mention no long term carrier commitment if you're looking for a discount on a new device.
I just bought Galaxy S22 Ultra from Samsung US website unlocked, then my work moved me to Kuwait. I purchased a 5G sim card but was never able to connect at 5G speed (my carrier is Ooredoo).
I went back to the store the the sales person took my sim card and placed it in an iPhone and the 5G worked perfectly with a speed of 750.
I called Samsung and they told me that because you have a US version, it should only works 5G in the states.
Any suggestions please on what to do?
Please note that I already checked all basic settings like selecting the 5G network and checked the APN settings for Ooredoo.
Sounds like the bands aren't compatible. What 5G bands is ooredoo using?
This is what I found
Ooredoo Kuwait
Company Overview Ooredoo in Kuwait, formerly known as Wataniya Telecom, is the second largest mobile carrier in the country, and a member of the Qatari-owned Ooredoo Group. Commercially launched in December 1999, the company provides mobile, broadband internet and corporate managed services...
halberdbastion.com
They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though
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They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though
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The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.
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The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.
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Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)
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Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)
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Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.
ElmoScarletMacaw said:
Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.
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incase you still have the phone. i just tried the tutorial on unlocking all 5g bands and it works with 5g here in kuwait. just in case you havent tried it
There are two working solutions for S22 Ultra US models at this forum:
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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Enable & Select Bands thru Dialer (S22 Fam) /CSC CHANGE (S22 & MORE)
***Tested on S908U & S908U1*** But not limited, to those specific models. S22 Family should also be compatible as well...as the NEW FOLD 4. Thanks @Abaddon BAND SELECTION: To ENABLE all bands, please do the following: (See pictures attached...
forum.xda-developers.com
Process is relatively easy, and after completing either of those two above, phone ends up with all 4G and 5G bands available