So you got the Edge S and want GApps? Basically you unlock your bootloader, root with Magisk, then install MagiskGApps.
DISCLAIMER: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS IN THIS GUIDE MAY RESULT IN DAMAGE/BRICKING YOUR PHONE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Unlock the bootloader: that should be doable with their global bootloader unlock website here.
2. Download Lenovo Motoroa Smart Assistant (Rescue and Smart Assistant), and follow its instructions to "rescue" your device. It will lead you to boot into bootloader mode and download the firmware. Find the firmware file via the LMSA's downloads (should have a "show folder" button). You'll need the boot.img file for Magisk.
3. Download Magisk, then follow its instructions. You'll have to copy the boot.img to your device, then use Magisk to patch the boot file, then copy the modified one to your PC.
4. You'll need fastboot. If you don't have it already, you can download the Android SDK platform tools here. Then go into the folder, Shift+Right Click the folder, then "Open Command Prompt" or "Open PowerShell," you should have something close to one of those two. Copy your Magisk modified .img file to that folder, then you'll want to input:
fastboot flash boot [modified .img file]
Once that completes, you should see in large text, "Start" on your phone next to the power button. Press the power button, and it should boot, and you should have root now.
5. Download MagiskGApps to your phone, open Magisk on your phone, click the button that looks like a puzzle piece at the bottom of the screen, "Modules." Click "Install from storage," locate the MagiskGApps file, and install it. After that it will ask you to restart your phone, do that, then you'll just have to be patient as it takes time once its restarted to load everything. You also may need to update some or all of the apps, then you should be able to use the notification to finish setting up the phone with Google Setup.
Thanks to Motorola for making it easy to unlock their bootloaders
Thanks to the whole Magisk team for making an easy, awesome root (and more!)
Thanks to Wacko1805 (and team?) for making MagiskGApps. This is really awesome.
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
kimker said:
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
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Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
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yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
kimker said:
yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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That's not good. Hopefully they can restore it back somehow. With this guide to unlock and flash gapps why would you need to flash G100 though? This seems to be itright now without one of rom developer's releases to get root & apps. For me this is all i would look for. Titanium backup on it and restore.. done until PE rom comes out.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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thank you. They did not ask for help. It seems that the lock BL is a self-verification switch, and then performs a verification system integrity.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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I had the same issue, you need to factory reset WITH your sim card in the phone, this will let you open the OEM unlock slide thing in the dev mode.
Then once its done you can fastboot and unlock the bootloader.
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
kischde said:
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
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On my OG Pixel XL, I had to wait 7 days for the slider to become normal. By the time I got around to do it on the Edge S it was about the same time.... could be related
Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Make sure your on the latest OTA, Lenovo made a mistake on previous versions with the OEM Unlocking function not being enabled. They fixed it in latest ota.
RSA tool said the file I uploaded yesterday is the latest one available (and it's exactly the same as the installed version).
The device was released just a few days ago in Europe. Perhaps they fixed the unlock switch in other regions and still need to fix it in Europe..
Will wait until weekend if they come up with a solution. If not I'm afraid I have to return the device as I need it personally AND professionally, too - I'm field agent, so.... :/
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
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The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
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Ouch...
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
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I would assume so, but I don't really know why anyone would want to relock.
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Want to buy this phone. Need it rooted to do a couple things. Has anybody gotten TWRP and root on it yet?
You can root it by first unlock the bootloader then install magisk via patch boot image method.
How should I get the boot image to actually use that method?
You can download the firmware here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/foles/official/RETUS/
Inside zips, find boot.img
Does anyone know anything about custom recovery TWRP yet that's what I'm looking for
there is no custom recovery
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You can root it by first unlock the bootloader then install magisk via patch boot image method.
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What is the way to unlock the bootloader? I don't believe Motorola officially released it for the phone yet. Have you rooted this phone?
Thereplierbro said:
What is the way to unlock the bootloader? I don't believe Motorola officially released it for the phone yet. Have you rooted this phone?
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Official unlock from Motorola is available, as long as you aren't referring to the Verizon version.
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Official unlock from Motorola is available, as long as you aren't referring to the Verizon version.
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Does the Verizon one have a greyed out "OEM Bootloader unlock"
Because I bought one off offer up that had the button available but it was purchased from Verizon
Also I asked Motorola for the unlock website an they said they haven't released it yet for Moto z4
Can't say for sure myself, I got the carrier unlocked version. But I believe that button in the options is there no matter what, I remember it on my original Z Force Droid (Verizon only version, no bootloader unlock, official or not).
I would bet that, if it was bought at Verizon, then there won't be a bootloader unlock available - ever.
Dunno what that last part is supposed to mean... Never saw a device-specific Moto Bootloader Unlock page, going all the way back to the original Moto X. There's the page explaining the unlock process, a disclaimer ("anything you do from here isn't our fault, or responsibility to fix" basically), and a link to the next step (with a "log in to Moto" in between). After login, it brings you to instructions to get a code to put in, and the button to check if the device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.
I would include a link to the first page if I could. Almost there, just one more post...
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Official unlock from Motorola is available, as long as you aren't referring to the Verizon version.
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Can't say for sure myself, I got the carrier unlocked version. But I believe that button in the options is there no matter what, I remember it on my original Z Force Droid (Verizon only version, no bootloader unlock, official or not).
I would bet that, if it was bought at Verizon, then there won't be a bootloader unlock available - ever.
Dunno what that last part is supposed to mean... Never saw a device-specific Moto Bootloader Unlock page, going all the way back to the original Moto X. There's the page explaining the unlock process, a disclaimer ("anything you do from here isn't our fault, or responsibility to fix" basically), and a link to the next step (with a "log in to Moto" in between). After login, it brings you to instructions to get a code to put in, and the button to check if the device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.
I would include a link to the first page if I could. Almost there, just one more post...
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All other phones, if the button is not greyed out and you can press the option (and it asked for your password) then it's unlockable. I know because I got a few freaking pixel phones with non usable Bootloader. Wasted about $1,000 looking for a cellphone to use with Sprint that I can root. Every one of them is Verizon.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/solution/ms87215
DM Verity disabled too?
What about DM verity? Has anyone figured out how to disable that? I need to add a couple of lines to the build.prop file, but can't seem to change the write permissions even with root; any edits made directly on the phone using an editor with root permissions, don't persist after a system reboot. Edits made to the build.prop file externally, and pushed pre-boot via ADB, result in boot loop due to DM verity failing.
(For clarity, I do not have this phone, yet, I have a Z2 Play, but I faced these challenges with that device too)
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What about DM verity? Has anyone figured out how to disable that? I need to add a couple of lines to the build.prop file, but can't seem to change the write permissions even with root; any edits made directly on the phone using an editor with root permissions, don't persist after a system reboot. Edits made to the build.prop file externally, and pushed pre-boot via ADB, result in boot loop due to DM verity failing.
(For clarity, I do not have this phone, yet, I have a Z2 Play, but I faced these challenges with that device too)
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I hope a real dev jumps on board to this cellphone. It's pretty decent for what it is honestly
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I hope a real dev jumps on board to this cellphone. It's pretty decent for what it is honestly
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One of my main reasons for waiting to get one
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One of my main reasons for waiting to get one
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It's basically useless until then
Could I get a little guidance on how to patch and flash the boot image? I have ADB/Fastboot setup as well as the XT1980-4 firmware downloaded.
Do I just place the boot.img file on my phone, patch it in Magisk Manager, and flash with fastboot? Anything I need to be careful of?
Also, how should I go about backups here? I've only messed with this stuff when I had a Galaxy S4, everything was super simple with easy bootloader unlock and custom recovery.
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Could I get a little guidance on how to patch and flash the boot image? I have ADB/Fastboot setup as well as the XT1980-4 firmware downloaded.
Do I just place the boot.img file on my phone, patch it in Magisk Manager, and flash with fastboot? Anything I need to be careful of?
Also, how should I go about backups here? I've only messed with this stuff when I had a Galaxy S4, everything was super simple with easy bootloader unlock and custom recovery.
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What you said was correct. That's how you patch and flash. Nothing particular to be careful. The only thing would be in order to receive future OTA, you should not modify you /system and /vendor partition during your use of the phone.
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What you said was correct. That's how you patch and flash. Nothing particular to be careful. The only thing would be in order to receive future OTA, you should not modify you /system and /vendor partition during your use of the phone.
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Dug a little deeper and bootloader is locked tight, no flashing for me. Returning and buying a secondhand LG V30 for cheap. It's unfortunate that carriers love their walled gardens.
See, this is why I was asking about DM Verity. You need to disable that first before flashing anything via ADB/Fastboot.
With DM Verity on, at system startup, the device generates a hash of the /system and /root directories. If the hash does not match the one from the factory, due to changes pushed via ADB or Fastboot or patching other system files with something different, the system reboots, again and again.
I had this same issue with my Z2 Play, which is why I brought it up here.
Rooting these devices is useless, unless you also disable DM Verity.
I tried to follow this method and ended up flashing the wrong boot image (I did go to the right software variant but it was outdated) so i had to go through and try all the images they had and none of them worked so i had to look elsewhere.
After some digging i found a VERY handy tool made by lenovo themselves that lets you update and recover the firmware.
If you use the rescue option and enter your phones info (it seems to verify your phones info so you can only download for devices you have) and it'll download the latest zip for you so you can get the boot image.
Here's the link to the smart assistant
TL;DR Open smart assistant, click flash, click "Go rescue", Click "Moto Phone", enter your phone's info (make sure your phone is connected in fastboot mode), click the download icon next to the file name.
Make sure you DO NOT click the rescue button when the download is finished as that will factory reset your phone, just copy the zip or boot image and close it
I posted a thread on this, commented on a couple other threads, posted on Reddit, and I simply cannot get straight answers across the board. All the feedback I'm getting is different. I am willing to PayPal friends and family $5 to the first person that can answer my questions with links to sources just so I can ensure the information I'm getting is correct. I haven't rooted a phone since my 1st Gen Moto X so I'm out of the loop, but have a understanding of everything.
I have a GM1915 OnePlus 7 Pro that is T-Mobile SIM unlocked. I followed the tutorials HERE and HERE to flash the global firmware and all went well. Only issue I had was my SIM was being detected but no service, so I did an OTA update to 10.0.3 and my service is working fine now. Here are where my questions begin:
1. Now that I have installed the international firmware I don't need to get a bootloader unlock from T-Mobile/OnePlus, correct? I can just use the OEM unlock option and unlock via fastboot?
I have had people tell me I am good to enable OEM unlocking and use fastboot oem unlock, others have told me I still need to request a unlock, others tell me to downgrade to SP3. I just need a straightforward answer: Can I use OEM unlocking or do I need to request an unlock from OnePlus?
2. I know bootloader/root can sometimes cause certain applications to not function, but I've also read Magisk has a setting to correct this. I'm mainly just concerned with Google Pay, is there a method for it to still function with root?
Again, I've had some people tell me I can't use Google Pay, Netflix, or anything like that at all, others tell me Magisk Hide and SafetyNet will fix this issue. I also had an individual state "However, recent changes coming might thwart this.". Again, can I use Google Pay or can't I?
3. Part of me would actually like to use the phone stock for a week or so to see if I even feel like I need root access. I am currently on OS 10.0.3, if I update to the newest OS (looks like 10.3.1 is the newest) will I still be able to root with Magisk and flash TWRP? I would assume yes since you can do an OTA update and keep Magisk, but I just wanted to verify.
So if I update to 10.3.1 can I still follow the same tutorial listed under question 1 and it will work? Doesn't the most recent version of TWRP/Magisk support 10.3.1? Or will I need to use MSM and go back to 9.5.X (can't remember the exact version, but it's the OS it puts you on when you follow the steps for international firmware flashing)? Can I even go back to 9.5.X after updating to 10.3.1? I see release notes for TWRP that state is now have Android Q support but I just want to ensure it's compatibile with 10.3.1 or whatever the newest OS is.
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I know regardless my phone is going to get wiped, I just want to be prepared on what I need to do if I decide to root.
I don't need links to tutorials, there are plenty of them and I understand how flashing TWRP and Magisk works, I just need my above questions answered with sources. I have searched around for a couple days and cannot get straight forward answers for any of these. First to answer every question with sources I'll send $5 PayPal.
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I posted a thread on this, commented on a couple other threads, posted on Reddit, and I simply cannot get straight answers across the board. All the feedback I'm getting is different. I am willing to PayPal friends and family $5 to the first person that can answer my questions with links to sources just so I can ensure the information I'm getting is correct. I haven't rooted a phone since my 1st Gen Moto X so I'm out of the loop, but have a understanding of everything.
I have a GM1915 OnePlus 7 Pro that is T-Mobile SIM unlocked. I followed the tutorials HERE and HERE to flash the global firmware and all went well. Only issue I had was my SIM was being detected but no service, so I did an OTA update to 10.0.3 and my service is working fine now. Here are where my questions begin:
1. Now that I have installed the international firmware I don't need to get a bootloader unlock from T-Mobile/OnePlus, correct? I can just use the OEM unlock option and unlock via fastboot?
I have had people tell me I am good to enable OEM unlocking and use fastboot oem unlock, others have told me I still need to request a unlock, others tell me to downgrade to SP3. I just need a straightforward answer: Can I use OEM unlocking or do I need to request an unlock from OnePlus?
2. I know bootloader/root can sometimes cause certain applications to not function, but I've also read Magisk has a setting to correct this. I'm mainly just concerned with Google Pay, is there a method for it to still function with root?
Again, I've had some people tell me I can't use Google Pay, Netflix, or anything like that at all, others tell me Magisk Hide and SafetyNet will fix this issue. I also had an individual state "However, recent changes coming might thwart this.". Again, can I use Google Pay or can't I?
3. Part of me would actually like to use the phone stock for a week or so to see if I even feel like I need root access. I am currently on OS 10.0.3, if I update to the newest OS (looks like 10.3.1 is the newest) will I still be able to root with Magisk and flash TWRP? I would assume yes since you can do an OTA update and keep Magisk, but I just wanted to verify.
So if I update to 10.3.1 can I still follow the same tutorial listed under question 1 and it will work? Doesn't the most recent version of TWRP/Magisk support 10.3.1? Or will I need to use MSM and go back to 9.5.X (can't remember the exact version, but it's the OS it puts you on when you follow the steps for international firmware flashing)? Can I even go back to 9.5.X after updating to 10.3.1? I see release notes for TWRP that state is now have Android Q support but I just want to ensure it's compatibile with 10.3.1 or whatever the newest OS is.
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I know regardless my phone is going to get wiped, I just want to be prepared on what I need to do if I decide to root.
I don't need links to tutorials, there are plenty of them and I understand how flashing TWRP and Magisk works, I just need my above questions answered with sources. I have searched around for a couple days and cannot get straight forward answers for any of these. First to answer every question with sources I'll send $5 PayPal.
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Firstly I can't give you a reputable source, and I don't want any money. I actually recently bought a Renewed Oneplus 7 Pro from amazon when it was 420, its the Black 8GB 256GB T-Mobile GM1915 model. So here is what I found out , and currently running Ill post some pics to show you
1. If you followed the guides above exactly and everything went smoothly your pefectly fine to use OEM Unlock, it basically installs a version of the firmware that doesn't check for a boot loader unlock token. I had originally requested one as well than found this nifty guide and it worked amazingly.
2. Yes it will work perfectly fine with Magisk, just use the Hide Magisk , it will resintall under a new name. Than you can even go further and use magisk hide to hide it from each app independently. As for google pay I have mine setup and it worked fine. I haven't actually been able to go into store and use it as we are very closed off in home now, but It allowed me to add my card fine, verify with my bank and all that good stuff. As for netflix yes it will work but since you unlocked bootloader you lose the Widevine DRM L1 certification and thus can't watch in HDR anymore. It still works fine though and honestly looks alright to me.
3. I had updated my T-Mobile OS all the way to latest version forget what it was at the moment, and than I did the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and flash twrp/magisk/rom. It worked out perfectly fine so you should be fine as well. What I would do is use the tutorial above unlock bootloader, because that version of the OS doesn't check for unlock token, than flash a stock Global rom 10.3.2 is avaliable now. and enjoy it for awhile and when your ready install a custom rom and magisk.
I'll add some pictures of things you asked about. Sadly I can't show my model number in system due to rom but i showed it connected to my pc.
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Firstly I can't give you a reputable source, and I don't want any money. I actually recently bought a Renewed Oneplus 7 Pro from amazon when it was 420, its the Black 8GB 256GB T-Mobile GM1915 model. So here is what I found out , and currently running Ill post some pics to show you.
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This was more than helpful, and a first hand account. I know you said that you didn't want any money but I am prepared to send it, if you don't want it I will donate to a charity of your choice.
3. I had updated my T-Mobile OS all the way to latest version forget what it was at the moment
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When you say this, did you update your firmware OTA on the T-Mobile firmware, or the Global/International firmware using OTA? I don't want to skip any incremental updates and cause issues so I might update using OTA to the newest it provides than use Oxygen Updater to get to 10.3.2. As long as I can be on the newest firmware and still unlock my bootloader and flash TWRP I'm fine. I mainly got this phone because it ticks every feature box I want and it can be rooted, but I'm up for using it stock for a while to see if I even want root.
Edit: I reread you post and think I looked over something about unlocking the bootloader. So the specific version of the firmware you flash to to swap to the international firmware doesn't require an unlock token, so if I wanted to use the OEM unlock I'd need to be back on that version, but if I wanted to unlock after I update to 10.3.2 I'd need to request a token. Am I understanding that correctly?
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This was more than helpful, and a first hand account. I know you said that you didn't want any money but I am prepared to send it, if you don't want it I will donate to a charity of your choice.
When you say this, did you update your firmware OTA on the T-Mobile firmware, or the Global/International firmware using OTA? I don't want to skip any incremental updates and cause issues so I might update using OTA to the newest it provides than use Oxygen Updater to get to 10.3.2. As long as I can be on the newest firmware and still unlock my bootloader and flash TWRP I'm fine. I mainly got this phone because it ticks every feature box I want and it can be rooted, but I'm up for using it stock for a while to see if I even want root.
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It was the T-Mobile firmware. 10.0.3 version. I had done it before I was even thinking about unlocking bootloader and flashing. Than when I saw the custom ROMS + Kernels where you can gain massive performance gains or optimize battery like mad I was sold on it. Plus the ugly t-mobile boot screens annoyed me. It is an amazing phone and prices can be had at its a steal. Also their is a TWRP that lets you dual boot and use shared data partition. So you could have one boot as a custom ROM, and another as stock and have the data shared in a common partition. Get a little of both ^_^
Like I have two profiles and one is more performance / battery Optimized
This other was more for fun on seeing how far I can push scores I am bored during this lockdown lol
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It was the T-Mobile firmware. 10.0.3 version. I had done it before I was even thinking about unlocking bootloader and flashing. Than when I saw the custom ROMS + Kernels where you can gain massive performance gains or optimize battery like mad I was sold on it. Plus the ugly t-mobile boot screens annoyed me. It is an amazing phone and prices can be had at its a steal. Also their is a TWRP that lets you dual boot and use shared data partition. So you could have one boot as a custom ROM, and another as stock and have the data shared in a common partition. Get a little of both ^_^
Like I have two profiles and one is more performance / battery Optimized
This other was more for fun on seeing how far I can push scores I am bored during this lockdown lol
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Thanks for all the replies. Would you care to answer this question below? And if you do not want the cash what charity would you like it donated to?
Edit: I reread you post and think I looked over something about unlocking the bootloader. So the specific version of the firmware you flash to to swap to the international firmware doesn't require an unlock token, so if I wanted to use the OEM unlock I'd need to be back on that version, but if I wanted to unlock after I update to 10.3.2 I'd need to request a token. Am I understanding that correctly?
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Thanks for all the replies. Would you care to answer this question below? And if you do not want the cash what charity would you like it donated to?
Edit: I reread you post and think I looked over something about unlocking the bootloader. So the specific version of the firmware you flash to to swap to the international firmware doesn't require an unlock token, so if I wanted to use the OEM unlock I'd need to be back on that version, but if I wanted to unlock after I update to 10.3.2 I'd need to request a token. Am I understanding that correctly?
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You know I am honestly not sure on this part, I did the bootloader unlock right after I followed that tutorial with the MSM tool. I am pretty sure its just the t-mobile firmware that blocks you from doing OEM unlock with out token. Not the global. But one way to find out be enable OEM unlock in developer settings, and run the fastboot oem unlock cmd. See if it works. If not you have your answere and will have to go back to other version. If you want you can always relock bootloader. I would test this but as I've already unlocked , re-locking and unlocking probably not give proper answer. But if you want I can install 10.3.3 lock bootloader and try to unlock it again lol.
EDIT: a test in sues.
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You know I am honestly not sure on this part, I did the bootloader unlock right after I followed that tutorial with the MSM tool. I am pretty sure its just the t-mobile firmware that blocks you from doing OEM unlock with out token. Not the global. But one way to find out be enable OEM unlock in developer settings, and run the fastboot oem unlock cmd. See if it works. If not you have your answere and will have to go back to other version. If you want you can always relock bootloader. I would test this but as I've already unlocked , re-locking and unlocking probably not give proper answer. But if you want I can install 10.3.3 lock bootloader and try to unlock it again lol.
EDIT: a test in sues.
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So I tried fastboot oem unlock after updating to 10.3.1 and it asked me if I wanted to unlock without prompting for an unlock token. I didn't choose the option to unlock, I kept it locked, but I think if I can get that far I should be able to unlock without a token on 10.3.1
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So I tried fastboot oem unlock after updating to 10.3.1 and it asked me if I wanted to unlock without prompting for an unlock token. I didn't choose the option to unlock, I kept it locked, but I think if I can get that far I should be able to unlock without a token on 10.3.1
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I can confirm now officially. After locking my bootloader, using MSM tool to go back to T-Mobile updating to 10.0.3 and trying to unlock bootloader it wouldn't work as I thought.
When using the MSM tool to go to international version and updating all the way to 10.3.2, it worked perfectly fine. So you can be on global rom and not worry about being able to unlock bootloader later due to updates Very awesome can get on global rom and not compromise bootloader so can have all security in place
Kireyev said:
I can confirm now officially. After locking my bootloader, using MSM tool to go back to T-Mobile updating to 10.0.3 and trying to unlock bootloader it wouldn't work as I thought.
When using the MSM tool to go to international version and updating all the way to 10.3.2, it worked perfectly fine. So you can be on global rom and not worry about being able to unlock bootloader later due to updates Very awesome can get on global rom and not compromise bootloader so can have all security in place
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You are the GOAT. Not only does this help me but hopefully some other members of the community that wish to update and try stock before unlocking the bootloader.
Kireyev said:
I can confirm now officially. After locking my bootloader, using MSM tool to go back to T-Mobile updating to 10.0.3 and trying to unlock bootloader it wouldn't work as I thought.
When using the MSM tool to go to international version and updating all the way to 10.3.2, it worked perfectly fine. So you can be on global rom and not worry about being able to unlock bootloader later due to updates Very awesome can get on global rom and not compromise bootloader so can have all security in place
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Just as verification that I wasn't using the PayPal reward as a ploy to get someone to respond and bail, Kireyev declined payment so I made a donation to ExtraLife in his name. Thanks again for your help to me and the community.
https://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=donorDrive.participant&participantID=408732
Kireyev said:
I can confirm now officially. After locking my bootloader, using MSM tool to go back to T-Mobile updating to 10.0.3 and trying to unlock bootloader it wouldn't work as I thought.
When using the MSM tool to go to international version and updating all the way to 10.3.2, it worked perfectly fine. So you can be on global rom and not worry about being able to unlock bootloader later due to updates Very awesome can get on global rom and not compromise bootloader so can have all security in place
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hey thank you both for this thread but admittedly i am a little lost and i really do not want to brick this device, ive rooted devices in the pas, some even requiring hardware modifications to do so. but i just want to make sure i do everything right
im on a sim unlocked t-mobile 10.0.3.gm31cb right now
what are the exact steps i need to follow to unlock bootloader, and get on the latest rom ?
Outta said:
hey thank you both for this thread but admittedly i am a little lost and i really do not want to brick this device, ive rooted devices in the pas, some even requiring hardware modifications to do so. but i just want to make sure i do everything right
im on a sim unlock
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If you follow the main guide on xda exactly you're going be fine. Once on global your essentially done because than you can flash a twrp through fastboot and install any rom, kernel you want. As well as magisk. The most important part is that msm guide. Now if you want to be more official get an unlock token and do it the regular way through fastboot with the unlock token. It took about a week in a half to get mine. But the msm guide works perfectly. Also I've gotten my device stuck in multiple fastboot loops and stuff their is always a way back.
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If you follow the main guide on xda exactly you're going be fine. Once on global your essentially done because than you can flash a twrp through fastboot and install any rom, kernel you want. As well as magisk. The most important part is that msm guide. Now if you want to be more official get an unlock token and do it the regular way through fastboot with the unlock token. It took about a week in a half to get mine. But the msm guide works perfectly. Also I've gotten my device stuck in multiple fastboot loops and stuff their is always a way back.
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Exactly which guide, at least 5 have been discussed lol what are the exact steps to take to go from stock be tmo to bootloader unlocked and rooted on latest stock rom.
I also don't mind sending you a monetary gift for your help. Thanks in advanced.
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Exactly which guide, at least 5 have been discussed lol what are the exact steps to take to go from stock be tmo to bootloader unlocked and rooted on latest stock rom.
I also don't mind sending you a monetary gift for your help. Thanks in advanced.
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This guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
Once you follow this you will be off TMobile stock and on global stock. Here you can choose to unlock bootloader or not. You don't need to root and install twrp to be on global rom. Just basically do the msm guide than. Update through the oxygen updater app to latest.
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This guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
Once you follow this you will be off TMobile stock and on global stock. Here you can choose to unlock bootloader or not. You don't need to root and install twrp to be on global rom. Just basically do the msm guide than. Update through the oxygen updater app to latest.
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just bricked my phone at this part:
3) Hold both volume buttons for 5 seconds then plug in the USB cable. OR In ADB type "adb reboot edl".
phone turned off and wont turn back on, any idea what tro do now?
Outta said:
just bricked my phone at this part:
3) Hold both volume buttons for 5 seconds then plug in the USB cable. OR In ADB type "adb reboot edl".
phone turned off and wont turn back on, any idea what tro do now?
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Yep your in download mode, its not bricked no worries. just hold volume up and power button for awhile you well feel a vibrate and than it will reboot
Kireyev said:
If you follow the main guide on xda exactly you're going be fine. Once on global your essentially done because than you can flash a twrp through fastboot and install any rom, kernel you want. As well as magisk. The most important part is that msm guide. Now if you want to be more official get an unlock token and do it the regular way through fastboot with the unlock token. It took about a week in a half to get mine. But the msm guide works perfectly. Also I've gotten my device stuck in multiple fastboot loops and stuff their is always a way back.
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Yep your in download mode, its not bricked no worries. just hold volume up and power button for awhile you well feel a vibrate and than it will reboot
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Thanks again, saved, do you have any idea what my issue is, why isn't msm seeing my device? Adb does..
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Thanks again, saved, do you have any idea what my issue is, why isn't msm seeing my device? Adb does..
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strange all you really need do is hook it up to pc, enable usb debugging which u've done. type adb reboot edl, wait for it and have msm open and it should connect. My only thing to suggest would be try another cable or another port on the pc. sometimes i've also noticed fastboot can be odd for me and I have to reboot the computer for it to notice my phone . I'd suggest try those things. Did you check your system model and see if it was the 1915 model with the GM31CB?
dont know if you got it or not but heres link to the commands https://droidfeats.com/unlock-bootloader-oneplus-7-pro-t-mobile/
Sorry for making another thread so soon, but I've got new issues now. TL;DR, I'm just trying to get my Moto G7 Power to detect my sim card at *all* anymore. I've been told that installing an OTA will make the phone detect the sim card again, but... I can't re-lock my bootloader.
I've spent pretty much all day looking for ways to re-lock it, but not a single one has worked. I always get the same "Still waiting for signed boot.img" message, even when I try fixes that worked for others. At this point, I give up on trying to re-lock. I just rooted using a guide here and connected to WiFi.
The next best thing would be for me to find another way to install OTAs. I've heard Magisk used to be able to hide your bootloader status and let you do that, but can't anymore, so...
1. Is there a way for me to install official android updates manually? If so, how?
2. If there is, *where* do I find the updates?
T-Mobile [PCO29.114-54-2]
XT1955-5
Tsukomasi said:
Sorry for making another thread so soon, but I've got new issues now. TL;DR, I'm just trying to get my Moto G7 Power to detect my sim card at *all* anymore. I've been told that installing an OTA will make the phone detect the sim card again, but... I can't re-lock my bootloader.
I've spent pretty much all day looking for ways to re-lock it, but not a single one has worked. I always get the same "Still waiting for signed boot.img" message, even when I try fixes that worked for others. At this point, I give up on trying to re-lock. I just rooted using a guide here and connected to WiFi.
The next best thing would be for me to find another way to install OTAs. I've heard Magisk used to be able to hide your bootloader status and let you do that, but can't anymore, so...
1. Is there a way for me to install official android updates manually? If so, how?
2. If there is, *where* do I find the updates?
T-Mobile [PCO29.114-54-2]
XT1955-5
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Retus one u need to flash do u have the bat file? Try flashing the modem non -hlos.bin in fastboot mode
You can install OTAs with unlocked bootloader, but you'll need to unroot your device first
Sorry for being 2 weeks late, but you look like you're in the exact same position I once was. Flashing an official update for my channel, available at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/ was what solved it for me, for whatever reason. (my SIM also wasn't recognized at all, nor did I have any IMEIs outside of bootloader. Also, the option to enable OEM unlocking never became available to me, despite instantly being available when I solved it)
We're technically able to install OTAs with unlocked bootloaders? But for some reason mine throws up an error at step 3/6 every time, so I'm dependant on Lolinet to install them.
On relocking bootloader, you had to re-flash boot.img, run the command 3 times, re-flash and run the command again or something, I was also going to try that on one of my threads, but since I couldn't enable OEM unlocking.
Hyoretsu said:
Sorry for being 2 weeks late, but you look like you're in the exact same position I once was. Flashing an official update for my channel, available at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/ was what solved it for me, for whatever reason. (my SIM also wasn't recognized at all, nor did I have any IMEIs outside of bootloader. Also, the option to enable OEM unlocking never became available to me, despite instantly being available when I solved it)
We're technically able to install OTAs with unlocked bootloaders? But for some reason mine throws up an error at step 3/6 every time, so I'm dependant on Lolinet to install them.
On relocking bootloader, you had to re-flash boot.img, run the command 3 times, re-flash and run the command again or something, I was also going to try that on one of my threads, but since I couldn't enable OEM unlocking.
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Every OTA zip first verifies your entire system by checksums. Is there any modified partition the verifier fails and the update process ends with an error.
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Every OTA zip first verifies your entire system by checksums. Is there any modified partition the verifier fails and the update process ends with an error.
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Probably my Magisk then, but meh
First of all:
I'm no Dev...just someone who likes to play lego.
From this point of view everything I post here is taken from somewhere else in the Internet and used by your own risk.
I've read a good startup here.
Hopefully this makes this thread clear enough so that i dont need to describe the whole procedure step by step.
(https://www.naldotech.com/root-samsung-galaxy-z-flip-3-5g-magisk/)
(1.OEM-Unlock,2.BL-Unlock,3.extract boot.img,4.patch boot.img via magisk on the unrooted mobile,5.patch boot.img.tar to AP&BL via Odin, 6.pray)
Anyways...here are maybe small hints to avoid a few traps.
a) Just do the oem-unlock in the dev-options (enabled by tapping buildnumber 5 times) is just half of the rent.
Afterwards i had to go in Download-mode (switch of mobile, press volUp+volDown and connect PC-cable.)
There appears a possibility of choice.
Press VolUp short: get the mobile on standby to flash the rom via odin.
Press VolUp LOONG: get the mobile to the menu where the bootloader can finally get unlocked. (Otherwhise every try to patch a rooted img will be blocked by bootloader-protection.)
Of course this can possibly be done via adb/fastboot commands.
Funny side note: OEM-Unlock-option will completely disappear from Dev-options and waranty is lost. Also the mobile stops to get Updates OTA which means that you have to update manually whenever a new version will appear in the net.
b) patching boot.img via magisk should work as described in many other magisk-rooting-manuals.
Flashing the tar back to the mobile via odin was little bit tricky.
It doesnt reach out just to provide the magisk_patched.tar to Odin just on the AB-line.
I had to patch it to BL too.
Cheers
MikGx
When you boot into bootloader after unlocking, is the message something about "a custom OS can cause critical problems"?
As it stands now, the only reason I have to believe the US bootloader can't be unlocked (or isn't already) was the lack of an OEM unlock button and some cranky kid on the internet saying it hasn't been possible since the S7.
It doesn't make sense why I would have a warning about a custom OS if there is no possible way to install one, though.
@boot into bootloader after unlocking it...:
Yess you are right. Thats exactly the message.
Then you can enter the Device unlock mode again (long press VolUp) to lock bootloader again (then it resets automaticaly to factory-defaults and all work is gone.)
or
continue to flash something (short press VolUp).
Dont know about the US versions. Could be that there is a difference to my EU-models.
But either i rooted nearly every every mobile since the S2
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@boot into bootloader after unlocking it...:
Yess you are right. Thats exactly the message.
Then you can enter the Device unlock mode again (long press VolUp) to lock bootloader again (then it resets automaticaly to factory-defaults and all work is gone.)
or
continue to flash something (short press VolUp).
Dont know about the US versions. Could be that there is a difference to my EU-models.
But either i rooted nearly every every mobile since the S2
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I think you misunderstood what I was asking, but ended up answering it anyway.
It seems the message about installing custom OS versions may be a boilerplate for the bootloader, not any indication that it's possible.
naldotech.com, the link you provide is pretty clear about the process. What it doesnt say is what to do at the end. When you untick "reboot" in odin, and you finish flashing, your phone will stay in download mode. Then what to do?. Press power and volume down to leave and restart the phone? or, power and volume down, screen goes black imediately power and volume up, enter recovery and restart from there.? please someone ?
Press the power and volume down buttons for about 7 seconds and it will reboot
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Press the power and volume down buttons for about 7 seconds and it will reboot
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I did as you mention but it didnt work. It made me reset the system. But I Fallowed the naldotech.com guide. At the end, being in dawnload mode, I pressed power and volume down, when the screen got black I pressed power and volumen up, I entered recovery mod, cleared cache and re- started the system: Voila my phone is rooted
Hello.
Can someone pleas provide a working link for frija download? The one referring from naldotech seems to be broken (https://www.naldotech.com/download-samsung-galaxy-stock-firmware-frija-tool/)
Update: Found a link via google -> https://technastic.com/odin-download-samsung-latest-all-versions/
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When you boot into bootloader after unlocking, is the message something about "a custom OS can cause critical problems"?
As it stands now, the only reason I have to believe the US bootloader can't be unlocked (or isn't already) was the lack of an OEM unlock button and some cranky kid on the internet saying it hasn't been possible since the S7.
It doesn't make sense why I would have a warning about a custom OS if there is no possible way to install one, though.
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The USA version (snapdragon soc) can't be rooted as far as I know. There is no way to unlock the bootloader in dev options, at least on Verizon and that holds true even if you bought a unlocked phone. As soon as you insert a Verizon sim and the phone updates it's all over.
I had the same issue with the original Pixel. I bought it unlocked but before rooting it I allowed it to update like a fool. Luckily my son wanted the same phone so I gave him mine then rooted and installed TWRP before putting a Verizon sim in.
Back to Samsung...as far as I know you haven't been able to root the USA version since the note 8. The rest of the planet gets the Exynos SOC but we get the snapdragon and no root method works. My note 9, 10+ and z Flip3 didn't have an unlock bootloader option even before putting a sim in it.
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The USA version (snapdragon soc) can't be rooted as far as I know. There is no way to unlock the bootloader in dev options, at least on Verizon and that holds true even if you bought a unlocked phone. As soon as you insert a Verizon sim and the phone updates it's all over.
I had the same issue with the original Pixel. I bought it unlocked but before rooting it I allowed it to update like a fool. Luckily my son wanted the same phone so I gave him mine then rooted and installed TWRP before putting a Verizon sim in.
Back to Samsung...as far as I know you haven't been able to root the USA version since the note 8. The rest of the planet gets the Exynos SOC but we get the snapdragon and no root method works. My note 9, 10+ and z Flip3 didn't have an unlock bootloader option even before putting a sim in it.
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twistedumbrella said:
I think you misunderstood what I was asking, but ended up answering it anyway.
It seems the message about installing custom OS versions may be a boilerplate for the bootloader, not any indication that it's possible.
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I have to be a little skeptical when my rooted Note 8 came out a year after the S7. There are other reasons, but they tend to make the trolls restless. We'll skip them.
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I have to be a little skeptical when my rooted Note 8 came out a year after the S7. There are other reasons, but they tend to make the trolls restless. We'll skip them.
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Ok I might be off by a year or 2 but I can say with 100% certainty that the note 9, 10, 10+ and flip3 don't have an unlock bootloader option.
I bought all 4 from Samsung all unlocked and not tied to any carrier. First boot with no sim I checked dev options and there was no option to unlock the bootloader. My note 9 might have had the option in the menu but it was grayed out and I couldn't find anyway to make it work.
A quick Google search for rooting the snapdragon version of any of these devices essentially says "NOPE".
The only way to root one is to buy a non US version. If it has a snapdragon soc you're out of luck.
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Ok I might be off by a year or 2 but I can say with 100% certainty that the note 9, 10, 10+ and flip3 don't have an unlock bootloader option.
I bought all 4 from Samsung all unlocked and not tied to any carrier. First boot with no sim I checked dev options and there was no option to unlock the bootloader. My note 9 might have had the option in the menu but it was grayed out and I couldn't find anyway to make it work.
A quick Google search for rooting the snapdragon version of any of these devices essentially says "NOPE".
The only way to root one is to buy a non US version. If it has a snapdragon soc you're out of luck.
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You got where I said "I guess the disclaimer is misleading" right?
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You got where I said "I guess the disclaimer is misleading" right?
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I didn't see that sentence in any of the posts but perhaps I just missed it.
It doesn't change anything either way. Anything is possible, even you somehow getting a device with this setting. That being said you also seem to be the only person ever to receive a USA device with said option.
It's hard to believe because it would mean the wrong firmware was installed (which makes no sense in itself) but with that firmware the device should have been a brick. The soc is completely different. It would be somewhat like trying to use Nvidia drivers on an AMD GPU... It just wouldn't work.
I dunno... I don't disbelieve you but I don't believe you either. It's just so far fetched for many reasons
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I didn't see that sentence in any of the posts but perhaps I just missed it.
It doesn't change anything either way. Anything is possible, even you somehow getting a device with this setting. That being said you also seem to be the only person ever to receive a USA device with said option.
It's hard to believe because it would mean the wrong firmware was installed (which makes no sense in itself) but with that firmware the device should have been a brick. The soc is completely different. It would be somewhat like trying to use Nvidia drivers on an AMD GPU... It just wouldn't work.
I dunno... I don't disbelieve you but I don't believe you either. It's just so far fetched for many reasons
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Lucky? I dunno. Had I known it would cause this much trolling, I wouldn't have bothered to mention it.
I have a general question. I am unfamiliar with rooting/unlocking bootloader on Samsung devices. Is it possible to revert unlocking the bootloader and going back to stock traceless?
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I have a general question. I am unfamiliar with rooting/unlocking bootloader on Samsung devices. Is it possible to revert unlocking the bootloader and going back to stock traceless?
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Partially. I just did that: I have AfWall running on my old phone, tried to unlock the Flip with this manual here in order to use the firewall there, did something wrong - and stumbled upon Netguard while searching what might have happened and decided to give it a try first. (Unless there is a custom ROM for the phone available, I have no other need for root or an unlocked bootloader.)
From what I could find on my Flip 3, you can unlock and relock the bootloader as you like - but as soon as you install a non-genuine bootloader (i.e. one chnaged by Magisk) you will trip Knox - and this cannot be reverted.
In such a case you can still re-lock your bootloader and unlock it later (on my phone, that "7-day-no-switch-indeveloper-options" routine kicked in, but you can circumvent that) - but Knox will stay in its state. From what I read this means some things will not work such as Samsung Pay, but I do not know the details (yet) apart from that it does not bother me ;-), and the nag screen during boot is gone.
Thanks for your reply. Kinda sucks. Never had problems with my former mobiles to get back totally to stock without traces. Guess I disregard rooting for now
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Thanks for your reply. Kinda sucks. Never had problems with my former mobiles to get back totally to stock without traces. Guess I disregard rooting for now
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Well, it's better than my Sony - there it is "once unlocked, always unlocked" with no way back at all
But I have to admit I understand the logic why the manufacturers do that, at least to the degree that they trip a fuse as Samsung does.
By rooting the phone, you shift the responsibility for the software state of the phone from the manufacturer to the user, so I think it is okay to implement something to make it clear to possible future buyers that it is or has been in that state.
(This does not include however all the other stones they put in the way of people wanting to develop or use custom ROMs!)
I remember I also had a Xperia Z3 compact.
Main reason for me for rooting, is the ability to use tools like tasker without non root restrictions or just trying customs roms without bloat, but usefull features. Guess u shouldn't have bought a Samsung lol.
david.siebauer said:
I remember I also had a Xperia Z3 compact.
Main reason for me for rooting, is the ability to use tools like tasker without non root restrictions or just trying customs roms without bloat, but usefull features.
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Oh, trust me - as soon as I hear there is a custom ROM that works as a daily driver I will root mine as well. I really hope that there will be one for this phone
david.siebauer said:
Guess u shouldn't have bought a Samsung lol.
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Sadly there is no Fairphone mini or Fairphone Flip - or would it be Fairfliphone? ... Flipfairphone?... - yet (if ever), so the only current alternative would be Motorola. And the price tag for the Razr is simply too much, even if I personally think it looks better than the Samsung. Additionally, I do not know if they are in any way better when it comes to rooting or loading custom ROMs.
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
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Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Connorsdad said:
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
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Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device.
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Huh, learn something new every day I guess...
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
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Awesome, thanks a lot for your reply, much appreciated.
never ever* lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
* exception
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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And you can't flash a factory image to fix a phone on your own when it's soft bricked. It might have to go to a shop for repairs.
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
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AFAIK, relocking the bootloader requires wiping the device -- much like unlocking does -- and if you're unwilling to set everything (including anything on your /sdcard internal storage, not to mention all apps and their settings & system settings) back up from scratch (as any good complete backups require root access), this might not be what you wish to do.
And, if you had managed to successfully relock the bootloader, you could simply run the in-system update (OTA) that would update without wiping -- or even manually applying OTA from the recovery.
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it) -- even if one was to a paranoid degree of security; which is the only major reason to (I can point you to the discussions that had taken place on it here, if you wish). If you don't want to run into any issues, you could simply run the stock ROM without root and be hardly impacted by it; with the added benefit of having the option to advanced recovery options and/or rooting options open to you in the future if need be...
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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*it just occurs to me you meant to never lock bootloader because it limits options; not the risk of hard-bricking the device -- in which I wrote the following with that assumption. I'll leave the following comment as it is still sound advice, but I apologize in advanced that it doesn't quite relate to what you meant...
I mean, I feel doing Google's official Android Flash Tool is a safe enough method; it wouldn't do well if Google's own tool bricked their devices using their tool...at the very least the tool ensures that the stock factory firmware flashed matches the bootloader version and automates the fastboot commands so when re-locking the bootloader, it has the least potential to brick the device...
Exactly. there is no official flash tool from google, that's why I personally won't recommend to keep bootloader locked. If it's bricked with no working recovery mode, not even repair shop can fix it. all you can do is RMA to google get new device. no edl mode or anything else will help, fastboot is the official flashing method.
If you're referring to the "Android Flash Tool" that's no flash tool at all. I haven't tested it, but to me it looks like a WebUSB browser plugin. Reading the requirements it works with adb commands, usb-debugging and fully booted android is required. Therefore cannot unbrick devices.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
iRhyiku said:
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
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I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
Trippyy Doee said:
I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
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Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
iRhyiku said:
Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
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That's of course another aspect. Good point. If you rely on SafetyNet or it's successor Play integrity, do not unlock bootloader. AFAIR the latter one can't be cheated.
simplepinoi177 said:
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it)
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There are some benefits like some banking apps, streaming apps and games beginning to work. So it really depends on what is important for the user. I don't like flashing random mods to make apps work on rooted/ bootloader unlocked devices, primarily banking apps.