OnePlus 8T vs. Pixel 5 - OnePlus 8T Questions & Answers

Hi guys! Saw this post from AndroidAuthority and thought I get some insights. I'm coming from the OnePLus 6T...
Wondering if anyone had any thoughts on either phone

kreizyidiot said:
Hi guys! Saw this post from AndroidAuthority and thought I get some insights. I'm coming from the OnePLus 6T...
Wondering if anyone had any thoughts on either phone
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Add S20 FE in the competition

I hear that Facebook can not be uninstalled from op8. I am on an OP6 and that fact pushes me more towards the pixel... ? I would prefer to stay with op as their phones did me well in the past but I really don't want Facebook at this point.

drakenabarion said:
I hear that Facebook can not be uninstalled from op8. I am on an OP6 and that fact pushes me more towards the pixel... ? I would prefer to stay with op as their phones did me well in the past but I really don't want Facebook at this point.
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You can uninstall it with ADB.

Pixel 5

jcsww said:
You can uninstall it with ADB.
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OK good, thanks.
Hopefully it would remove all parts of it from the phone and not just disable it.
(although no 3rd party apps was a very big selling point for OnePlus to me. Not sure I like their recent direction).

drakenabarion said:
OK good, thanks.
Hopefully it would remove all parts of it from the phone and not just disable it.
(although no 3rd party apps was a very big selling point for OnePlus to me. Not sure I like their recent direction).
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It removes it from being installed. It is still in the back up factory image that is used to restore the device. Facebook has 3 to 4 components that you will want to remove. An app, such as, Package Info, will show you the names of the Facebook apps installed so you can remove them with ADB.
Edit: This is essentially what you want to remove. Not all of these might be present, but three of them at least probably will be. The pm uninstall -k --user 0 is the command and the rest is each package name.
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.facebook.system
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.facebook.appmanager
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.facebook.katana
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.facebook.services

tabish84 said:
Add S20 FE in the competition
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If it's the UK / EU version I would not add it to anything but the toilet.
Exynos is to be avoided.
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kreizyidiot said:
Hi guys! Saw this post from AndroidAuthority and thought I get some insights. I'm coming from the OnePLus 6T...
Wondering if anyone had any thoughts on either phone
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OnePlus will have a better battery, pixels seem to have tiny batteries for some reason.
I've got the 8 pro and it's a decent device. Cannot fault it.
Pixel has a weaker Processor and GPU, if the price is swollen like it has been the last few years then it's an obvious choice
But tbh neither of those phones will disappoint.
For me the OnePlus is the better out of the two, personal preference, plus I'd prefer the faster phone, would be the 8 pro or the 8T.
Bit shameless to not have the latest processor in a pixel.

The only con to OP8T IMO is the humongous size (again, it's a personal preference). Would love a smaller oneplus flagship (not a nord device)!

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The only con to OP8T IMO is the humongous size (again, it's a personal preference). Would love a smaller oneplus flagship (not a nord device)!
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WOW! I think the 8T is too small. I would like a 7" flagship from OnePlus without a notch or hole in the screen.

I was very disappointed with the launch event! Not having an SD865+ isn't a huge deal, but the $749 USD price tag for a device that has less than the Samsung S20 FE 5G really is disappointing. Filling it with all of this bloated Bitmoji and other unwanted junk sure doesn't help either. 12GB/256GB is really the only way it improves over Samsung's cheaper offering that I personally care about. Only two colors as well, is another really disappointing choice by OnePlus. Red should always be a color option for them but the green and grey really don't look too appealing to me.

Why no one is talking about the front facing camera??.does anyone have specs on it? Is it the same as other OnePlus phones?

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Why no one is talking about the front facing camera??.does anyone have specs on it? Is it the same as other OnePlus phones?
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The front-facing camera doesn't sound like anything special, at least in my opinion. GSM Arena has a hands on review of the device that seems fairly in-depth.

Whilst having much better specs, I prefer the Pixel's form-factor and at this moment in time, I have more confidence in Google as a company.

So I ordered the Pixel 5 just because of the BOSE headphones

aydinbahadir88 said:
So I ordered the Pixel 5 just because of the BOSE headphones
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What do you mean?
You get free headphones?

dladz said:
If it's the UK / EU version I would not add it to anything but the toilet.
Exynos is to be avoided.
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OnePlus will have a better battery, pixels seem to have tiny batteries for some reason.
I've got the 8 pro and it's a decent device. Cannot fault it.
Pixel has a weaker Processor and GPU, if the price is swollen like it has been the last few years then it's an obvious choice
But tbh neither of those phones will disappoint.
For me the OnePlus is the better out of the two, personal preference, plus I'd prefer the faster phone, would be the 8 pro or the 8T.
Bit shameless to not have the latest processor in a pixel.
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The 5G S20 FE with the SD865 is also available in the UK/EU. Going by storage parity, the 8/128 8T is around €100 cheaper, though.

Price notwithstanding, here is my list of pro's and con's
Pixel 5 pro's:
- Stock Android
- 90 Hz Oled
- Better camera
- Wireless charging (do not care personally)
- Gobal 5G support (I very much like that)
- 3 years updates
- Smaller phone that will fit into most pockets
- Batter life is probably good this time (still waiting for the gsmarena review though)
- IP rating
Pixel 5 con's:
- No high end CPU/GPU
- Tinny speakers
- Only 18W charging
- No unbrick tool floating around
- No alert slider
OP8T pro's:
- 65W charging
- Good stereo speakers
- Alert slider
- 120 Hz Oled
- unbrick tool available (just a matter of time)
- High end CPU/GPU
- Likely good battery life as usual
- They no longer install Facebook
OP8T con's:
- Sometimes too big to lug around
- Mediocre camera (a few utterly useless one's too)
- No longer stock Android
- They ditched some native apps like the phone app, nuking my favourite call recorder app along with it
- Only regional 5G support
- No wireless charging
- No official IP rating
- They still install Netflix

Levi4cyber said:
What do you mean?
You get free headphones?
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yes there was a pre-order campaign with BOSE headphones

Why is everyone so sure the pixel 5 camera is better than the OnePlus 8T.
I mean the pixel 5 still uses a 5 year old sensor!!!

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Op 7 pro vs galaxy s10

I m using galaxy series from galaxy 2 can i shift to oneplus 7 pro or go for latest s10.... need help
Bro get the Op 7
Op7 Pro for the win...
Oneplus 7 Pro will destroy the S10 series.
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Oneplus 7 Pro will destroy the S10 series.
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On some levels Id say OP7 pro is better for sure. Faster internal storage, faster overall user experience, faster updates, no camera hole, 90 hz screen. Its definitely cheaper as well if that matters
But the cameras (front and rear) won't match the S10, no external storage, only 256gb of internal storage compared to 512 and 2tb on S10. No wireless charging, no IP rating (bucket of water hardly counts) lol.
It will certainly not destroy the S10 that's for sure.
Samsung wins in the camera department by far
Now it depends what do you prefer
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On some levels Id say OP7 pro is better for sure. Faster internal storage, faster overall user experience, faster updates, no camera hole, 90 hz screen. Its definitely cheaper as well of that matters
But the cameras (front and rear) won't match the S10, no external storage, only 256gb of internal storage compared to 512 and 2tb on S10. No wireless charging, no IP rating (bucket of water hardly counts) lol.
It will certainly not destroy the S10 that's for sure.
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Yes I agree, The camera part of the Oneplus is a bit weak compare to the S10 series.
TL;DR: Go for OnePlus 7 Pro. Easy choice.
Personally I think Samsung's flagship devices are a waste of money. Before you read on! I'm not fully updated on all of what I'm going to complain about, so it might've changed!
To me, Samsung has nothing unique to offer, yet their devices are almost as expensive as an iPhone. Which in my opinion is insane. Samsung offers a ****ty version of Android that looks **** (think it actually looks better now than it did before), full of bloat; it doesn't even let you uninstall Instagram. Personally I'm not a huge fan of their self-made apps either. In my opinion, it would be better to spend that money on an iPhone, which at least offers something unique (being iOS).
When it comes to OnePlus. They seem to have a great vision when it comes to how they do things. One of the things I really like with them, is that you're allowed to root the phone, and you won't void warranty. Though, to lots of people, rooting isn't very major. However, their version of Android is very nice. It is close to stock Android, has close to no bloat. The bloat that it has, you can uninstall (with root). Their hardware is very nice, and now more than ever with their new OnePlus 7 Pro (OP7P). Then the price you pay is less than any other phone with same specs.
When it comes to camera, there might be better options. However, OP7P has a very decent camera, and when someone ports the Pixel camera app to work on OP7(P), it will (probably) improve the camera greatly.
I own both the 7 Pro and the S10+
This is coming from someone who hasn't owned a Samsung since the Note 4 and has owned almost every OnePlus device.
While the 7 Pro is a really good phone the S10+ is just better. The only things better on the 7 Pro is the screen scrolling, OnePlus gestures (best Android gestures hands down), UFS 3.0 storage, and screen off gestures.
The fingerprint reader is faster on the 7 Pro but the fingerprint reader on S10+ works when your fingers are wet, and you don't need to wake the screen to use it.
I do like the size of the 7 Pro (I like bigger phones) but in-hand the S10+ feels better, 7 Pro is thicker than the S10+.
Samsung's new One UI is nothing like the old Touchwiz. The S10+ has so many customization option it's not even funny. I have found no reason to want to root the S10+ (coming from someone who has rooted every single phone they have owned).
7 Pro camera is ok but the camera on the S10+ is good if not great (not Pixel great).
I had the s10 and returned it. The finger print sensor on it was not working consistently. Samsung has too much bloatware for me and didn't see a major difference from my pixel 2 xl. Only good thing about Samsung is Samsung pay. Op 7 so far I'm loving it. It depends on what you are looking for. I don't really care for camera and I'm not worried about getting some water on the phone. Also i don't use wireless charging. The specs on op7 are ridiculous for the price. Plus op7 will get the latest updates including Q faster than Samsung phones.
I have a one question.which the op7 display quality compare the s10+?
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I had the s10 and returned it. The finger print sensor on it was not working consistently. Samsung has too much bloatware for me and didn't see a major difference from my pixel 2 xl. Only good thing about Samsung is Samsung pay. Op 7 so far I'm loving it. It depends on what you are looking for. I don't really care for camera and I'm not worried about getting some water on the phone. Also i don't use wireless charging. The specs on op7 are ridiculous for the price. Plus op7 will get the latest updates including Q faster than Samsung phones.
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OP7 is water proof though, they just didn't care to pay for the IP-certification.
I have the ceramic 10+ it is lovely but I will say that the 7 pro looks terrific, Oxygen OS and the fast updates are tempting and I am not expecting Q anywhere near the 10+ until 2020. The camera edge is probably still just with the 10+ and the expandable storage too but other than that the 7 pro is a compelling package for sure, well almost…..
….For me though an always on display and wireless charging are important features, I could probably do without wireless charging but with them marketing it as a pro model it really should have been included IMO. As for the always on display with so many OEMs offering this now that there is no reason for me to consider OP until they do too. I get that some people do not rate this feature but me it has fast become a must-have.
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I have the ceramic 10+ it is lovely but I will say that the 7 pro looks terrific, Oxygen OS and the fast updates are tempting and I am not expecting Q anywhere near the 10+ until 2020. The camera edge is probably still just with the 10+ and the expandable storage too but other than that the 7 pro is a compelling package for sure, well almost…..
….For me though an always on display and wireless charging are important features, I could probably do without wireless charging but with them marketing it as a pro model it really should have been included IMO. As for the always on display with so many OEMs offering this now that there is no reason for me to consider OP until they do too. I get that some people do not rate this feature but me it has fast become a must-have.
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How does the 10+ camera compare to your Pixel 2 XL? I've just come from a Pixel 2 XL to the 7 Pro and the difference is huge, there is a lot of hope riding on GCam turning this camera around - i've got a 15 day window to return the 7 Pro and it will be going back if there isn't progress on the camera front (and then possibly going the S10+ route if the camera is any better).
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How does the 10+ camera compare to your Pixel 2 XL? I've just come from a Pixel 2 XL to the 7 Pro and the difference is huge, there is a lot of hope riding on GCam turning this camera around - i've got a 15 day window to return the 7 Pro and it will be going back if there isn't progress on the camera front (and then possibly going the S10+ route if the camera is any better).
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Well the main sensor is pretty good on the 7 pro, we don't know about the other sensors (wide, tele) though. It might get better in the future, because the main sensor is pretty good and the weakest part seems to be the software for now. Also, you can't film with the wide angle lens on the 7 pro, and we don't know if that will be possible in the future. That's the reason why I will wait 1 more month until I decide which phone I will buy. The worst case: I have to wait until Google releases their pixel 4 because I can't stand the design of the pixel 3 XL.
I have the S10+ and have a OP7 in the box right now, probably switching over.
S10+ still lags if not rebooted every couple of days for me.
Exynos camera is meh and so is standby time.
I like the S10 but it didn't live up to the hype, want a phone I don't have to baby
Snapdragon is a different story from what I've read
The OS and notchless screen are huge selling points for me.
Won't really miss wireless charging too much, don't use the SD slot as I have 2 Sims.
Agree, being shortchanged with the exynos has left a sour taste this year.
I'm just not sure I could lose an AOD, especially as the is no led. I tried before and it bugged the hell out of me. I am though still very tempted!
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How does the 10+ camera compare to your Pixel 2 XL? I've just come from a Pixel 2 XL to the 7 Pro and the difference is huge, there is a lot of hope riding on GCam turning this camera around - i've got a 15 day window to return the 7 Pro and it will be going back if there isn't progress on the camera front (and then possibly going the S10+ route if the camera is any better).
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S10 is more versatile but the main camera in the 2xl is imo better.
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I caved and purchased the OP 7pro so now have both and 2 weeks in and I am conflicted on the OP7 vs the S10+.
The OP is a beast and I have found it more of a burden to carry and use than my S10+, it also makes an iPhone Xs max look small! I have also missed the always on display, wireless charging a little but no big deal. I’d also say that outside the extra brightness of the Samsung makes it easier to see, again no biggy. I prefer pretty much everything else about the OP7 Pro though and one thing I have noticed (and have posted this over on the S10 forum) is how much better the radio performance is on the OP7, I think this may be more down to the S10+ being bad than the OP7 being really good but at my work for example the S10 clings to 1 bar of 4G and often drops to 3G whereas the OP7 is rock solid on 3 or 4 bars of 4G all day. I have also installed Gcam and it works really well.
I won’t comment too much on the FPS, both work ok with the OP being quicker and the S10 being maybe more convenient on account of not having to wake the screen first. I do though still prefer a rear mounted sensor like the Pixel which is IMO just a better, quicker and easier option.
Re the AOD I read that OP have said they are working on this but are still citing battery concerns, given how good and polished oxygen OS is I just do not get why OnePlus are finding it so hard to provide a proper always on display? Lots of other OEM’s have managed it, LG even managed it on an LCD screen. Anyway fingers crossed they are at least on the case now.
So overall it is a seriously good device, I do though wish it was just not quite so big.
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Nozemi said:
TL;DR: Go for OnePlus 7 Pro. Easy choice.
Personally I think Samsung's flagship devices are a waste of money. Before you read on! I'm not fully updated on all of what I'm going to complain about, so it might've changed!
To me, Samsung has nothing unique to offer, yet their devices are almost as expensive as an iPhone. Which in my opinion is insane. Samsung offers a ****ty version of Android that looks **** (think it actually looks better now than it did before), full of bloat; it doesn't even let you uninstall Instagram. Personally I'm not a huge fan of their self-made apps either. In my opinion, it would be better to spend that money on an iPhone, which at least offers something unique (being iOS).
When it comes to OnePlus. They seem to have a great vision when it comes to how they do things. One of the things I really like with them, is that you're allowed to root the phone, and you won't void warranty. Though, to lots of people, rooting isn't very major. However, their version of Android is very nice. It is close to stock Android, has close to no bloat. The bloat that it has, you can uninstall (with root). Their hardware is very nice, and now more than ever with their new OnePlus 7 Pro (OP7P). Then the price you pay is less than any other phone with same specs.
When it comes to camera, there might be better options. However, OP7P has a very decent camera, and when someone ports the Pixel camera app to work on OP7(P), it will (probably) improve the camera greatly.
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Why does it have to be unique, I don't care about that? I care about it being a good phone, a well rounded one at that. It's hard to pack a lot of features into a cheaper phone, and often results in some corner cutting and that's what happened. The pop up camera is a DISASTER and all over China one plus has had to offer an apology and a slightly extended warranty, I'd never trust that and it collects a whole lot of dust around the top of the camera port when sitting in your pocket and such, regardless of the waterproof red ring on the top.
One UI is great, I bought the s10+ and never received Instagram, and not much bloatware at all, oneUI has almost no issues besides Bixby, which Samsung even lets you disable. OneUI has been garbage, but its great in this new phone, just look at what most reviewers have to say. The s10+ is way more well rounded then the op7 pro, which has some standout features but some pitfalls top. 90HZ is great but still isn't a huge difference and the battery life is quite poor on the OP 7 pro, I went to t-mobile and didn't notice much of a difference if at all, I did notice a difference with the 120hz razor phone though, maybe if you slow the phone down by 5x the 90 hz will have a big difference.
And you're acting like iPhones are a similar value, the hardware of iPhones in general doesn't even compare to Samsung, they're GARBAGE. Unlocked right now is a s10+ and a XR for around the same price, 880p LCD vs 1440p 4k OLED display, 18 watt vs 5 watt charger, 4100 mah battery vs 3200 mah, wide angle + telephoto lens, no giant notch and a bigger screen, slightly curved edges, headphone Jack, expandable storage, way more ram AND storage. Gtfo saying these phones are close in that regard, apple is only for iOS, why would you rather buy an iPhone. Without nova launcher, Samsung offers LOADS of customization. Also real world pricing is 29$ for a OP 7 pro a month with t-mobile which is the only seller in the US, sprint is 25$ for a s10+ with upgrade plan and all, which makes a lot more sense then spending way more to buy a phone outright vs only paying half price then upgrading to the latest and greatest phone of your choosing, keep in mind most people use carrier plans so this is the more realistic example. Oh and no wireless charging with the OP 7 pro, IP rating, headphone Jack, expandable storage, etc.
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S10Ben said:
Why does it have to be unique, I don't care about that? I care about it being a good phone, a well rounded one at that. It's hard to pack a lot of features into a cheaper phone, and often results in some corner cutting and that's what happened. The pop up camera is a DISASTER and all over China one plus has had to offer an apology and a slightly extended warranty, I'd never trust that and it collects a whole lot of dust around the top of the camera port when sitting in your pocket and such, regardless of the waterproof red ring on the top.
One UI is great, I bought the s10+ and never received Instagram, and not much bloatware at all, oneUI has almost no issues besides Bixby, which Samsung even lets you disable. OneUI has been garbage, but its great in this new phone, just look at what most reviewers have to say. The s10+ is way more well rounded then the op7 pro, which has some standout features but some pitfalls top. 90HZ is great but still isn't a huge difference and the battery life is quite poor on the OP 7 pro, I went to t-mobile and didn't notice much of a difference if at all, I did notice a difference with the 120hz razor phone though, maybe if you slow the phone down by 5x the 90 hz will have a big difference.
And you're acting like iPhones are a similar value, the hardware of iPhones in general doesn't even compare to Samsung, they're GARBAGE. Unlocked right now is a s10+ and a XR for around the same price, 880p LCD vs 1440p 4k OLED display, 18 watt vs 5 watt charger, 4100 mah battery vs 3200 mah, wide angle + telephoto lens, no giant notch and a bigger screen, slightly curved edges, headphone Jack, expandable storage, way more ram AND storage. Gtfo saying these phones are close in that regard, apple is only for iOS
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Biased much?

Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate?

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:
Cmon, u really run already.
All will be good again in one way or another [emoji1787][emoji23]
ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.
Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.
I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.
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I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.
All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.
Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.
I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.
I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php
Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)
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Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios
Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

OnePlus 7 Pro or Pixel 3a XL

Hi guys,
I'm currently using OnePlus 3T and after almost 3 years it's about time to buy new phone.
I'm not a gamer and I mainly use the phone for taking pictures, web and navigation.
Picture quality is the first thing I look for - it must be superb
I know that this is OP thread but I believe many of the users here switched from pixel to op.
what phone would you recommend? pixel 3a spec are outdated but maybe its still good enough for my usage for the next 2-3 years.
Do you think that OP can improve the software to match the quality of the pixel?
I've heard about the gcam porting but still the picture quality is not as good as taking photos with the pixel.
Or maybe should I wait to October where Google announces the pixel 4 and maybe the pixel 4a
Your help will be highly appreciated
Thanks
Go for OnePlus
OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
pixel 4 would cost x1.5 for sure, don't want to spend too much
I really like the OP 3T so upgrading to 7 plus seems like the right choice.
What do you think about 7 vs 7 plus? the plus worth the extra penny?
Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience (plus wanting more RAM so I can e.g. keep Pokemon Go from being closed so much) is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
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Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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Yeah I can't justify paying an extra £150 for 90Hz (which I don't want to get addicted to as then other screens will look bad to me and it'll end up restricting my tech purchases), telephoto lens (with so many megapixels these days, cropping or variations of AI digital zoom should be good enough for me) or wide angle lens (this I want the most and was agonising about last night, but... 150 quid.... and I can get a clip on). Other than that it's about the same device? Slightly faster charging which I'm not bothered about as Dash Charge is super fast already.
I can actually think of a couple of advantages to the non-Pro IMO. One being that the Pro apparently has quite 'aggressive' curves to the display. Now, I have an S9 currently and to be fair I think the curving on that looks quite nice and rarely notice any distortion, but from what I've seen of the 7Pro you get a more noticeable version of the greenish tint that appears from indirect viewing angles, I think it'd possibly bug me, not sure without seeing one in person.
Another being no moving parts. I'm sure the selfie camera is very well tested, but I'd rather not.
Plus... well no smartphone these days is good for one handed use, but let's say it's slightly less bad
And despite absolutely loathing notches initially, they've had this weird effect of growing on me (just as the industry is finding ways to get rid of them, lol). The teardrop actually looks quite 'cute' in my eyes.
Plus one sort of 'political' reason: I don't want to encourage OP to keep hiking prices up, or come next year they'll just be yet another manufacturer of smartphones that cost over a grand. I want to support their mid range flagship killer business.
OnePlus 7 Pro or Pixel 4. The Pixel 3a can't even compete. It also depends on how much you'd like to spend.
Google's stock OS is lacking behind OOS. It lacks any real innovations as Google is afraid of change, evidence by the lack of dark mode in apps and OS until now (5 or 6 years after it's been available in custom ROMs).
The 3xl just can't compete with the OP 7 pro. The 7 pro is faster, another, 90hz screen faster charging, larger screen and the specs are outdated in comparison (SD855, 6/8/12 gb ram and minimum of 128gb storage). The battery in mine lasts all day with heavy use and I'm averaging 9+ hours of sot.
The pixel has a slightly better camera in low light but day time shots there is no discernable difference between the 2. It also gets updates faster but 4-6 weeks difference is nothing compared to phones like Samsung which can take 6 months or longer.
So the only reasons you should buy a 3xl is the low light camera is the most important feature you can settle for or for some reason you feel that security you're are a must the instant they are out. Or you're penny pinching and can get the 3xl cheaper.

OnePlus 7T or OnePlus 7 Pro which is better?

Hello everyone, I want to buy a OnePlus phone & have to choose between OnePlus 7 Pro vs OnePlus 7T which should I pick? Please help me decide.
It all comes down to your personal preference.
Do you prefer a curved display or a flat one.
You want more battery capacity or you think the new warp 30t charging tech can make up for having a smaller battery..
Do you prefer a notch or you want to wow people with a pop up selfie camera.
Do you feel the slight improvement that the 855+ has is better for you..
Other than those things. Battery capacity, display, notch/pop up.. and charging tech the phones are almost the same and yeah that macro lens..
I'm on the fence on which to buy myself..
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If you haven't seen this review it might help.
https://youtu.be/VWvc_JjefNM
I just want to know how good is OnePlus 7pro's QHD display over OnePlus 7T's full HD?
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I just want to know how good is OnePlus 7pro's QHD display over OnePlus 7T's full HD?
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7 pro's display is hands down one of the best display in the market right now.
If you want 256GB of storage you have to get a Pro. 7T maxes out at 128GB. Also the 7 Pro can be had with 12GB of RAM.
I would also add aesthetics...for me anyway...that back camera circle thing is just plain-ol-UGLY! The 855+ is a non-issue as I highly doubt you will ever see, or experience anything that shows one over the other. All the other arguments previously mentioned may be valid.
P.S. I have the 7 Pro and despite many who disagree with me online...I have tried both screen resolutions, as well as 90 vs 60 refresh rate....and there is just NO difference to me at all! (Let me get my flame suit zipped up here...) I am running all the latest software updates, I have had the phone for several weeks now, I have swapped the various screen settings many times with different apps....and...NO discernible difference!
I have wondered if by some chance the settings do nothing??? Maybe the screen is set to its highest available DPI and refresh rate and switching to the lower settings is not doing anything???
Or, maybe it is the other way around??? That the screen is set on the lowest settings and switching it to the higher settings does not really change anything??? YMMV
But I am telling you that the 7 Pro flies through anything and everything I throw at it. (I do not play games though) So, it is up to you! Boy it sure is getting warm in here.
Also, according to jerryrigeverything, the 7T suffers structural weakness for that ugly camera circle, the 7t he was testing cracked on the first stress test. While i am in no way a fan of the curved screen, i do appreciate a notchless QHD display.
One more thing which may, or may not be an issue for some...the notification slider button is smaller on the 7T than on the 7 Pro.
I would say for now the OnePlus 7 Pro for the win!
I have both. Right now I'm using the 7T as my daily driver. I like the flat edges but the notch is a little annoying since the apps cant use that space.
I would get the 7 pro. The curved edges and bezel less screen is amazing. 7t has an ugly back.
7 Pro also has a better display in terms of resolution.
I bought the 7 Pro about a month ago coming from a pixel 2 XL. The phone is great in every respect. The only thing that bothers me is the weight. This thing weighs a lot. ?
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I bought the 7 Pro about a month ago coming from a pixel 2 XL. The phone is great in every respect. The only thing that bothers me is the weight. This thing weighs a lot. ?
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Hit the gym buddy
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Hit the gym buddy
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Trade Oneplus 7 Pro to Xiaomi Mi 10 worth it?

Hi, im thinking to trade my Op7P with a Xiaomi Mi 10, What u say ppl? Worth it that trade?
I would say yes if 90hz is a must. I almost did the same thing but settled on the Poco F2pro which only has 60hz frame rate but a higher touch sampling rate which is very noticeable, no notch or punch hole, flat screen, SD865, 8gb ram, 256gb storage for $465. The camera alone may be enough justification for the Mi 10 upgrade. I still have my 7pro as a backup/kids game phone until I find a buyer.
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Hi, im thinking to trade my Op7P with a Xiaomi Mi 10, What u say ppl? Worth it that trade?
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Sure, if you don't mind that the crappy ads built into the OS, almost every install or uninstall is filled with app upselling, if you don't mind (in the grand scheme of things) the Chinese govt learning something about you etc etc...go ahead have fun with Xiaomi! This is not say the OnePlus is a saint in anyway but I'd say it's lesser devil of the 2
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Sure, if you don't mind that the crappy ads built into the OS, almost every install or uninstall is filled with app upselling, if you don't mind (in the grand scheme of things) the Chinese govt learning something about you etc etc...go ahead have fun with Xiaomi! This is not say the OnePlus is a saint in anyway but I'd say it's lesser devil of the 2
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As long as OP unlocks bootloader and installs a pruned rom like xiaomi.eu ads won't be an issue. Hell even oneplus needs a custom rom to be bearable. It's just the meta these days I'd say.
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Hi, im thinking to trade my Op7P with a Xiaomi Mi 10, What u say ppl? Worth it that trade?
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I'm kinda on the fence for a similar trade myself but I want a Mi9 instead of Mi10. Sadly it seems Mi9 was such an awesome phone no one wants to sell / trade theirs around here. Currently running miui 11 rom on my OP7P and it's okay, only issue is battery life but otherwise everything I use works flawlessly.
If it wasn't for that damned hole punch camera, I'd find out who you were trying to trade with and offer my op7pro instead.
Source: (https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10082&idPhone2=9689#diff-).
you are losing:
- 1440p
- 90 hz
- uninterrupted screen
- a better ultrawide sensor/lens combo
- a better zoom sensor/lens combo (way better because the mi 10 doesn't have one)
- ois in the main camera
- ois on the zoom camera
- af on the ultrawide
- a more stock android exp
- better community support / official LOS support
- first class gcam support
- usb-c 3.1
- slightly better loudspeaker
you are gaining:
- batter CPU
- better GPU
- 5g
- that sweet sweet 108mp camera
- 1% better screen to body ratio
- wifi 6
- 19.5% bigger battery
-wireless charging
- reverse wireless charging
It really is hard to decide!

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