Ok Guys,
Well I finished the work on these two Versions of the Honeycomb Taskbar. I used Steves Bluedroid Taskbar as a base for these. They should work on wm 6.5 and 6.5.x. There might be smaller issues with some Roms, but they run perfectly on Elegancia Roms
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after days of working on this I can now finally share my Honeycomb Taskbar with you guys.
But first thanks to Inando and everyone else on the DreamTeam for the support and testing
It looks like this:
I am using this taskbar now for quite a few days and it works. I had some friends of mine test it. And it works perfectly on Winmo 6.5 Roms.
I myself am using a Winmo 6.5.5 Rom and it works on this Rom, too.
To tell you the truth though there is a little issue I am currently working on. But this issue doesnt influence the taskbar or the stability of your phone.
It only shows up, when you restart sense. If you do it looks like this:
But as I told you, that doesnt influence the taskbar in any matter and on the slider tabs it all shows up perfectly, only if you restart sense
I hope for the time beeing you can bear with that but be assured, that i am working on it
For the future I was planning on adding different colors
So to get this to work, just install 1sdkcert, softreset and install my Taskbar and softreset again and you are done
As I said it works on both versions, so I hope you enjoy my Taskbar and plz give me feedback, because this is my first Taskbar and its nice to get constructive feedback to further excell
If you like it, I would recommend that you take the split second to press the Thanks button
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Nordpolcamper said:
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But first thanks to Inando and everyone else on the DreamTeam for the support and testing
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You're very welcome my friend..I'm glad I could help!!! For being your very first taskbar, this thing is amazing!! We're all(xda community) lucky to have you creating/sharing your beautiful works with us!
nice
Hi, Thumbs up!!!
Very nice! Will test it because it looks realy great! Maybe later have question to you. Can i send you a PM?
Thank you for the TB!!!!!
lnando84 said:
You're very welcome my friend..I'm glad I could help!!! For being your very first taskbar, this thing is amazing!! We're all(xda community) lucky to have you creating/sharing your beautiful works with us!
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MrBeOTP2 said:
nice
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Thank you guys
Dic3ptor said:
Very nice! Will test it because it looks realy great! Maybe later have question to you. Can i send you a PM?
Thank you for the TB!!!!!
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Of course Dic3ptor
Congratulations for the Dream Team!!!
Excellent work!
One question. How could i have the task bar transparent?
TEKOSTA said:
Congratulations for the Dream Team!!!
Excellent work!
One question. How could i have the task bar transparent?
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Well its not possible to make the taskbar transparent, but if you are using CHT you can skin the Taskbar background with your Homescreen Background so that it appears to be transparent. Therefore I attached a Wallpaper with 480x800. Just go to the Set Wallpaper menu and then select skin taskbar and select the image
Hi
Just have installed your Taskbar and i have one problem!
Look here:
Any ideas?
First i have installed the 1sdkcert cab and did a softreset. Then i installed the TB and did a softreset.
Dic3ptor said:
Just have installed your Taskbar and i have one problem!
Look here:
Any ideas?
First i have installed the 1sdkcert cab and did a softreset. Then i installed the TB and did a softreset.
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Yes BHS Inspector already made me aware of that and I am looking through the files while writing. It seems to be an error on Winmo 6.5 Roms. On my device there is no such error. I hope I can solve it, plz bear with it
Nordpolcamper said:
Yes BHS Inspector already made me aware of that and I am looking through the files while writing. It seems to be an error on Winmo 6.5 Roms. On my device there is no such error. I hope I can solve it, plz bear with it
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OKay maybe on WinMo 6.5 but i have WinMo 6.5.5
But i´m sure you will solve this problem.
Dic3ptor said:
OKay maybe on WinMo 6.5 but i have WinMo 6.5.5
But i´m sure you will solve this problem.
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mmhm...then this is odd^^ I will take a look into that and get myself some help
Not Working on 6.5.
Installed the 1sdkcert.cab file, reset, installed the taskbar, reset & the taskbar was blank. And the phone locked up.
Did a hardreset. Installed sdkcerts.cab (used for other taskbars,) reset, installed taskbar & same result.
Thought you should know.
Stock HD2 ROM 3.14.405 with
Sense 2.5.2018 &
WinMo 6.5.
Steve.
I tried installing this on my T-Mobile Stock 6.5 rom and had no success. Any ideas?
Thanks,
David
ahhh man..... NPC the task bar looks great. despite its bugs.good luck in sorting them out. I know youll get there.
there was a trick I used to do to get my bottom bar to act right with the"win mo 7 series" taskbar. that did the same thing yours is doing.
installing joshoons HD mini theme seemed to fix that. (only 2 soft key buttons on bar in 6.5.x)
Working NOW fine on Artemis ROM
Dic3ptor said:
Just have installed your Taskbar and i have one problem!...
Any ideas?
First i have installed the 1sdkcert cab and did a softreset. Then i installed the TB and did a softreset.
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Dic3ptor said:
OKay maybe on WinMo 6.5 but i have WinMo 6.5.5
But i´m sure you will solve this problem.
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Nordpolcamper said:
mmhm...then this is odd^^ I will take a look into that and get myself some help
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Worked on it too and found the trick not only for "Artemists"
OK, it´s 1% off, but I can live with that
@Dic: are you still using "standard" Artemis TaskBar from Sir Sternas? Looking at your pics, it seems to me, you are using "Artemis Stock". Please Check PM
@NordPolCamper, I was right with my theory I sent you in PM
BHS Interceptor said:
Worked on it too and found the trick not only for "Artemists"
OK, it´s 1% off, but I can live with that
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Check your registry and see what you have listed for the values below. I once had it being off by 1% with a different taskbar. I went through and changed all of the images in phcanoverbmp.dll so that it would match, just to find out it is actually a registry edit . The following is what usually works for me and I what I see cooking in taskbars with 1% increments.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BatteryIconLevels"=dword:00000066
Nordpolcamper, you may want to go ahead and add the following to your cab so that people won't run into this problem. I think these settings also may make it so sdkcerts is not needed, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not sure what you used to replace the images in the dll's, but I was unable to use restorator to look at them in outres.192.dll, tapres.192.dll, and tshres.192.dll. The other files seemed to be like all of the other taskbars I've messed with, so you may want to check the files in your cab again.
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BatteryIconLevels"=dword:00000066
"BatteryIconIdStart"=dword:000003E9
"BaseDll"="phcanOverbmp.dll"
"BaseId"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\Privileged Execution Trust Authorities\Certificates\1049B790EDA3C369E9C206B44AF16B2657CC1555]
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mwalt2 said:
Check your registry and see what you have listed for the values below. I once had it being off by 1% with a different taskbar. I went through and changed all of the images in phcanoverbmp.dll so that it would match, just to find out it is actually a registry edit . The following is what usually works for me and I what I see cooking in taskbars with 1% increments....
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Hola, gracias for the info, but I already did that after checking the "off set". But I did not install it by cab anyways - used ThemeSwitcher to switch the TaskBar from SD card. And the PM to NPC was to point him to those entries and the tasBar used by Artemis ROM for it
But maybe we could exchange info´s on TaskBars for "save" switching, since so far none of the "asked" TaskBar makers would share the info
mwalt2 said:
Check your registry and see what you have listed for the values below. I once had it being off by 1% with a different taskbar. I went through and changed all of the images in phcanoverbmp.dll so that it would match, just to find out it is actually a registry edit . The following is what usually works for me and I what I see cooking in taskbars with 1% increments.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BatteryIconLevels"=dword:00000066
Nordpolcamper, you may want to go ahead and add the following to your cab so that people won't run into this problem. I think these settings also may make it so sdkcerts is not needed, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not sure what you used to replace the images in the dll's, but I was unable to use restorator to look at them in outres.192.dll, tapres.192.dll, and tshres.192.dll. The other files seemed to be like all of the other taskbars I've messed with, so you may want to check the files in your cab again.
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BatteryIconLevels"=dword:00000066
"BatteryIconIdStart"=dword:000003E9
"BaseDll"="phcanOverbmp.dll"
"BaseId"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\Privileged Execution Trust Authorities\Certificates\1049B790EDA3C369E9C206B44AF16B2657CC1555]
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\SPC\Certificates\1049B790EDA3C369E9C206B44AF16B2657CC1555]
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OK I will take a look at that Thanks for your help Its kind of bad, that only very few Taskbar work on Winmo 6.5 AND 6.5.5 and only a few of those taskbars work on all roms. Yesterday I flashed 12 Roms and tested 15 different taskbars on each one of them to find a Taskbar that would be a good basis. But unfortunatly it seems to be impossible to find ONE Taskbar that works for all Roms and at the same time for Winmo 6.5 and 6.5.5. I searched up untill 4am and I nearly threw my hd2 and my laptop out of the window -.- I am still searching. If I find a good Basis I will rework it and share it with you all. Hopefully then no errors in any way will occur.
BHS Interceptor said:
Hola, gracias for the info, but I already did that after checking the "off set". But I did not install it by cab anyways - used ThemeSwitcher to switch the TaskBar from SD card. And the PM to NPC was to point him to those entries and the tasBar used by Artemis ROM for it
But maybe we could exchange info´s on TaskBars for "save" switching, since so far none of the "asked" TaskBar makers would share the info
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Its quite hard to get all the info you need to make a taskbar. I found 2 guides and both of them just told me how to replace images inside
I havent gotten a PM BHS, the last one came yesterday 7.17PM