Differences between G970U and G970F - Samsung Galaxy S10e Questions & Answers

I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.

kcwind said:
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!

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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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Thanks for the reply. I had seen that site and the differences in bands and that's what made me ask if anyone has seen any difference in the two versions of the phone. Yes, I have either the dual sim version or the hybrid SIM, I'm not really sure since I can't find my exact model on that site. I can see that the phone was made in China and its CSC country is Panama. I can put either 2 SIM cards in the phone or one SIM card and an SD storage card (which is how I have it set up). The full model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA and that model isn't listed on the website that shows what frequencies each model can access. I was on the phone with a T-Mobile tech person when I was setting it up and she had me make a few changes to be sure I was using T-Mobile's LTE network, but I don't think she really knew much about what frequency bands I might need and not have. That's why I asked here.
I'm planning on going to my parents' next week, where T-Mobile's service isn't that great, so I'm hoping that will be a really good test for this phone. Otherwise, it seems to be working just fine for me, although it's hard for me to know if I'm getting full access in the city, where all the bands my phone has are probably supported. Maybe I should look for an app that can tell me what frequencies are available and whether my phone is able to connect, hmmmm. Anybody know of a good app like that?
Thanks so much for the reply.

I downloaded an app called Samsung Band Selection so that I could see what bands my phone actually has. When I compare the bands/frequencies that the app shows I have to what bands T-Mobile has, it looks like I'm missing two bands. One is the 4G FDD LTE band of B71(600MHz). The other band I'm missing is the 4G TDD LTE band of B46(5200). Does anyone know what issues there might be if this phone doesn't have the capability to connect to those two bands?

If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
The T-Mobile S10e models have a model number that end with TMB. I use a pre-owned, T-Mobile carrier-unlocked, Samsung Galaxy S10e.
Just my $0.02
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Nate2 said:
If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here. Maybe I don't know where to look, but so far, I'm having zero problems with this phone. Even in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have a great presence, my reception and data access was fine. I've been on the phone with T-Mobile representatives, who had me do a little tweaking when I first got the phone and I've talked to them about the 2 bandwidths that I'm missing on this phone and I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I'll check again to see if I can search out the problems you're talking about, but this phone seems to be working just fine. If I'm missing something, please point me to the right posts, though.
Thanks for the reply.

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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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Yeah, I went there after re-reading your last message. When I search for G970F, I find 4 threads which I don't think are going to be problems for me. Unfortunately, when I try to search for "international S10e", the search brings up hundreds of threads that have "internal" in it, rather than "international", so I'm unable to search for just my model. Apparently, their search algorithm isn't the greatest. It sounded like the biggest problem might be the fingerprint sensor not working so well after a recent upgrade. I don't plan on using the fingerprint sensor and it was just one person with the problem, so I don't know how widespread that might be.
Thanks again for the reply.

The G970U has an FM Radio that is enabled. I have verified that it works:
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I saw that difference online, as well. I'm not really sure where to look in order to verify, but from what little I've looked, I don't think it has the FM radio receiver. Not that I have a need for it, but someone else might, so always good to point that out, thanks. I would use the dual-sim capability more than an FM radio, so I'm willing to live without built-in radio. If you tell me where to look, I will verify for sure for others who might be interested.

My SM-G970UZBATMB (T-Mobile s10e) is on Build QP1A.190711.020.G970USQS4DTF6 now (7/2020).
Did your G970F get that update too?
See:
1. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G970U/TMB/doc.html
2. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...axy-s10e/software-updates-samsung-galaxy-s10e
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Mine updated a week or so ago to Build QP1A.190711.020.G970FXXS7CTG1. My Baseband version is now G970FXXS7CTF3.

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AT&T SGH-I337 Galaxy S4 - Discussion, Reviews, etc.

I know there are plenty of threads along this line, but as the S4 becomes available they will no doubt be splitting the forums up by Carrier, country, version or whatever. So this is specifically for the AT&T US version, SGH-I337. If that's what AT&T sticks with, it's a great model number, isn't it?
Unless things have changed, it looks good for 4/16 for pre-orders from AT&T, with actual phones coming out 4/26? :fingers-crossed:
Has anyone heard anything from Best Buy as to when they will start pre-orders? And will the 32gb version be available at first or will it come a few weeks later?
And lastly, who's going to have the first one! For bragging rights you must post a picture with receipt or some kind of proof.
theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.
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theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.
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You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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i left tmobile for at&t a month ago. i just brought my unlocked note 2 over. much better coverage and the LTE is awesome.
welcome to at&t
Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...
RTBee said:
You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...
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wont be tomorrow as i called them. just go to a at&t store.
Just figured I'd throw this in there! Here in California when you buy from at&t directly you have to pay the tax on the full amount of phone even if you are signing a new contract. But during Christmas time I bought my son the galaxy s3 from Walmart that was advertised at $139 with $100 gift card and I paid only $139 no more no less. No tax was added at all including free shipping. So im not sure if this is just the way it is or if it ws an anomaly. Oh it was purchased from Walmart online so maybe that's why. So in closing I think im going to wait to purchase from Walmart!
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Usually when buying online, you don't have to pay sales tax (it's a state thing). You're 'supposed to' enter that on your taxes at the end of the year under out-of-state purchases, paying the tax at that time. So, if you do it that way at least you can spread out your cost a bit.
S4 vs S3
Interesting comparison: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
Note the differences between level 1/level 2 cache and the use of DDR3 in the S4 to DDR2 in the S3.
It also shows the S4 as having FM radio, which I do not believe will be present in the I337, nor will the selectable operations (such as being able to turn off LTE and just use 3g). Also it shows the S4 and S3 as having gorilla glass 2, whereas I've read the S4 is getting gorilla glass 3.
Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
i found this about the Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
Expected:Release_Date: April, 2013
Project;Codename: Samsung Altius
Browse all devices under Samsung Altius codename
Dimensions: 69.8 x 136.6 x 7.9 millimetres
Mass: 130 grams (battery included)
Software;Environment
Embeddedperating-System: Google Android 4.2.2
Browse devices running this OS
Microprocessor,:Chipset
CPU:Clock: 1900 MHz
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T
Browse devices based on this microprocessor
Memory,_Storage-capacity
RAM-capacity: 2 GiB
Display
Display_Type: color Super AM-OLED , 16777216 scales
Display-Diagonal: 5 "
Display_Resolution: 1080 x 1920
Video;out: 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution
Sound
Microphone(s): stereo
Loudspeaker(s): Supported
Audio;Output: 3.5mm
Cellular+Phone
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular_Data-Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
Call:Alert: 64 -chord melody
Vibrating+Alert: Supported
Speakerphone;: Supported
Secondary;Cellular+Phone
Dual;Cellular-Network-Operation: Selectable cellular module
Secondary:Cellular:Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
Secondary:Cellularata_Links: LTE
Control-Peripherals
Positioning-Device: Multi-touch screen
Primary+Keyboard: Not supported
Directional+Pad: Not supported
Scroll-Wheel: Not supported
Interfaces
Expansion:Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, microSDXC
USB: USB 2.0 host/client, 480Mbit/s, OTG 1.3
micro-USB
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
Wireless_LAN: 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, 802.11ac
Infrared:Gate: Supported
Multimedia-Telecommunication
Analog-Radio-Receiver: FM radio (76-108MHz) with RDS
Digital;Media+Broadcast_Tuner: Not supported
Satellite;Navigation
Built-in:GPS-module: Supported
Complementary_GPS:Services: Assisted GPS, QuickGPS, Geotagging, Simultaneous GPS
Built-in-Digital:Camera
Main;Camera: 13.2 MP
Autofocus;(AF): Supported
Optical;Zoom: 1 x
Macro+Mode: Supported
Built-in+Flash: mobile light (LED)
Secondary;Camera: 2.1 MP
Additional+Details
Built-in+accelerometer: Supported
Battery: removable
Battery-Capacity: 2600 mAh
Thanks for info, I found it interesting that they're calling it Samsung Altius, I'd never heard that name used before.
I do like At&t's model name (I337) though. It will be their 'Elite' model. (in leet)
Just found this: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-altius-smartwatch-leaked-14269391/ Looks like the name Altius has more to do with an upcoming 'smart watch', not the S4.
Best Buy now taking Pre-orders
Best Buy just text they're accepting pre-orders. Only the 16gb version in black or white with no mention of 32gb. They also list the unactivated full price as being 749.99??? $100 more than At&t?? What's that all about?
This is very much unlike me, but I'm thinking I may hold off a bit and see how soon they'll be offering the 32gb versions. I like the idea of having some extra overhead on internal memory, what with having the higher hd screen and such. Right now it may not make as much of a difference, but the more apps that take advantage of the higher res screens the more memory will be required.
I love my S3, so it's not a hard wait. If it takes to long, tho... :cyclops:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
SlimJ87D said:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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It should be pretty easy I imagine?
I had the I9100M (Canadian version), which I flashed with I9100 ROMs as they were the same hardware and from then on my phone was simply an I9100.
This time around due to LTE, could we flash any I9505 ROM and then just flash our modem for our specific LTE bands? (All major Canadian network and AT&T use the same ones - However I don't know if AT&T will use 2600MHz as well like the Canadian network will).
Our phones would say I9505 in info and on boot up and not be any different aside from modem used. Or do the bands needs to be enabled both in the ROM and the modem?
SlimJ87D said:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.
RTBee said:
I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.
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The SGS3 US versions port good between them with the same hardware. The cdma versions, the tmobile version, and the remaining gsm versions kind of like how the i747 and i747m are now. When you get into different radio technologies then it seems harder to port since some hardware (radio and not just modem) should be different.
So the ATT i337 and other i9505 variants should be identical hardware wise and only have modem differences for the most part. Unless I am totally wrong here and the UK i9505 (and other European i9505's) are so different or using completely different hardware radios for different frequencies used. But we should kniw this in the next coupke of weeks for sure. I know in the past (SGS1/SGS2) that the international version and ATT version were almost identical, and close enough tbat I could flash the international version on my phone then make some necessary changes with a flashable zip to fix the modem and button configuration. Then it would work good. Both the ATT SGS1/SGS2 had the same cpu/gpu as the international version and used the SAME frequency bands for huspa and huspa+. Now I do NOT KNOW if they will be the same for the LTE bands or not, so that could be the game changer.
Now the ATT SGS3 of course was different due to different cpu/gpu compared to the International variants. But since this time around again from all I have read so far that the i9505 international variants and at least the ATT SGS4 i337 seem to be the same again hardware wise, at least that is my hope... So if this does turn out to be true this is how I see it working:
We will have subforums of the SGS4 which will include the ATT i337, the Canadian Version i337m? (Not sure if thats the name at this time), and the remaining i9505 international sharing a subforum. The Tmobile even though it is gsm but uses different frequencies for some of their bands will be seperated a bit, how much I do not know, then the cdma variants split of as well into their own subforum/s.
Just my guess here going from experience with the SGS1, SGS2, SGS3 and seeing how the sub forums played out along the way.
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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"Samsung I337 BLK 16GB PHONE"

Indians do it better?

I begin to think that there should be some misunderstanding between Motorola 's US team and the Chinese people of Lenovo...
Someone @motorola would have said something like "with MotoZ we want to do something special for Indians!".
They obviously intended their "American natives", BUT on Lenovo they made the same error of Columbus and did it for Indians of India! :laugh:
Why am I saying this?
Are facts to tell...
- Moto Z in Europe: available only in few countries, very few to none advertising for it, only single SIM version, only 32 GB version, only some LTE bands supported, quite more expensive than in US, expecially on Amazon...
- Moto Z in India: a big event on Amazon.in for the oncoming launch in all India, only DUAL SIM version, only 64 GB version, the largest list of LTE bands supported (with Europeans only too, like B20...), a price which is a fraction of European one and lower than US one (of 32 GB single SIM...) too...
Some years ago Madonna singer during a concert used a T-shirt with "Italians do it better" written on it, making it famous... @lenovo do they use to wear "Indians do it better" T-shirts?
Or do they think in Europe we are all strange & exotic people wearing rings on our noses? :cyclops:
Not only Indians... here in Mexico the free versions are the same, 64GB, double sim ready, unlock bootloader ready, carrier free and almost all include the moto mods bundle: bumper, incipio battery, moto case and JBL speakers. I bought mine in Amazon, but also if you buy yours on Motorola site, Best Buy or even WalMart you get the same. BTW the model is the 03 version.
juliospinoza said:
Not only Indians... here in Mexico the free versions are the same, 64GB, double sim ready, unlock bootloader ready, carrier free and almost all include the moto mods bundle: bumper, incipio battery, moto case and JBL speakers. I bought mine in Amazon, but also if you buy yours on Motorola site, Best Buy or even WalMart you get the same. BTW the model is the 03 version.
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Interesting...
Motorola's national web sites shouldn't ship out of country, but perhaps Best Buy or Walmart... Do you have any links to some bundles to provide to me?
EDIT: seen the bundles... very nice and very nice prices, BUT nor Motorola.com.mx, neither Amazon.com.mx & bestbuy.com.mx ships outside Mexico that product..!
-03 should be all single SIM... What do you mean with "double SIM ready"?!
Could you test by apps like Signal spy or similar what LTE bands are supported by your model?
Thanx a lot!
Is Reliance Jio VoLTE supported in Moto Z?
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Is Reliance Jio VoLTE supported in Moto Z?
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Yes!!! It is supported
enetec said:
Interesting...
Motorola's national web sites shouldn't ship out of country, but perhaps Best Buy or Walmart... Do you have any links to some bundles to provide to me?
EDIT: seen the bundles... very nice and very nice prices, BUT nor Motorola.com.mx, neither Amazon.com.mx & bestbuy.com.mx ships outside Mexico that product..!
-03 should be all single SIM... What do you mean with "double SIM ready"?!
Could you test by apps like Signal spy or similar what LTE bands are supported by your model?
Thanx a lot!
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Couldn´t find LTE bands but as he said. Here in Mexico its carrier free,OEM unlocked, 64gb, 1650-03 and double SIM
Lepezon said:
Couldn´t find LTE bands but as he said. Here in Mexico its carrier free,OEM unlocked, 64gb, 1650-03 and double SIM
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Have you personally tested with two SIM installed? Since on Motorola.mx it's not reported to be dual SIM (even if the tray probably is...).
About LTE bands, I've opened a specific topic... anyway they should be reported in bottom side of box, near IMEI and model number...
enetec said:
Have you personally tested with two SIM installed? Since on Motorola.mx it's not reported to be dual SIM (even if the tray probably is...).
About LTE bands, I've opened a specific topic... anyway they should be reported in bottom side of box, near IMEI and model number...
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Yep, fully functional with 2 SIM, ill take a look at the box
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Yep, fully functional with 2 SIM, ill take a look at the box
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Thanx a lot... This is very interesting since Motorola declare double SIM available only in China, Brazil & India.
I've found that even French version is double SIM and now Mexicans too...
When you look @ the box for LTE bands, please check if there is reported one or two IMEI numbers and the exact model version (something like SMxxxxAE7xx for black version or SMxxxxAD1xx for white one...)
enetec said:
Thanx a lot... This is very interesting since Motorola declare double SIM available only in China, Brazil & India.
I've found that even French version is double SIM and now Mexicans too...
When you look @ the box for LTE bands, please check if there is reported one or two IMEI numbers and the exact model version (something like SMxxxxAE7xx for black version or SMxxxxAD1xx for white one...)
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My box doesn't show the bands that are supported, also you can check that is double sim ready. I bought mine in Mexico Amazon, is exactly the same that Motorola is selling here. Hope this is helpful.
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juliospinoza said:
My box doesn't show the bands that are supported, also you can check that is double sim ready. I bought mine in Mexico Amazon, is exactly the same that Motorola is selling here. Hope this is helpful.
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A lot! Thank you! I will add your mod data to my model thread...
Lol that's so wrong. I live in Norway, and my Moto Z is Dual SIM and supports a large range of LTE (not that Norway is using LTE very practically, Norway is still FAR behind when it comes to LTE/4G usage and spread)-.
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Lol that's so wrong. I live in Norway, and my Moto Z is Dual SIM and supports a large range of LTE (not that Norway is using LTE very practically, Norway is still FAR behind when it comes to LTE/4G usage and spread)-.
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Interesting. Could you post your model number and LTE bands reported on bottom side of box so I will add to specific threads?
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Interesting. Could you post your model number and LTE bands reported on bottom side of box so I will add to specific threads?
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Motorola XT1650-03,RETAIL,BLK,32GB,DS,NORDICS,STYLE CAP
The DS stands for Dual Sim btw.
Here the LTE bands:
LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B19/B20/B25/B28
TD-LTE B38/B40/B41
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Motorola XT1650-03,RETAIL,BLK,32GB,DS,NORDICS,STYLE CAP
The DS stands for Dual Sim btw.
Here the LTE bands:
LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B19/B20/B25/B28
TD-LTE B38/B40/B41
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Great! Are you able to find exact product code of the phone?
I think it should be something like SM4xxxAE7xx or similar....
More: what's Motorola web site for your country? motorola.no?
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Great! Are you able to find exact product code of the phone?
I think it should be something like SM4xxxAE7xx or similar....
More: what's Motorola web site for your country? motorola.no?
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No its Motorola.com and then you select country in the bottom.
Code: SM4388AE7T1
Anyone received Nougat here?

International version with US radio/baseband? Possible?

Hello, I've recently purchased an International G7 Power (XT1955-2) and I absolutely love it. For me it is the perfect phone, BUT:
I live in the USA, and the international model does NOT support a lot of the LTE bands found here. It works fine for me with an AT&T MVNO with proper APN settings manually entered, but not having common bands (12 and 17 specifically) is a little worrying should I ever travel out of my area. Being downgraded to 3G really isnt a dealbreaker for me, the biggest problem I forsee is that the International version also does NOT support 5Ghz Wifi. What? Again, not really a huge deal, and the other positives i find with the phone outweigh those two gripes.
Why not just get a US version you ask? Well, unfortunately the US version (XT1955-5 as far as i can tell) only has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of storage. (vs 4/64 for the international) and does not have NFC. The storage *is* expandable via SD card of course, but I feel like I would really miss that extra gig of ram. So heres what I was thinking:
Would it be possible to extract the radio firmware from a US model and flash it on the international model? I would be willing to purchase a US model specifically to grab the firmware (and then promptly return it, thanks Amazon!) Can anyone give me some insight on if this would be possible? They both run the same SoC, so shouldnt the radios also be identical, just software limited? If no one can give a solid answer, I might just take the plunge and learn how to do it and try it, and I'll most definitely post the results (or the file and process for others) here. Because as far as I'm concerned, the G7 Power is the perfect budget phone, its just such a shame that Motorola decided to cripple every single version of it with a different nonsensical limitation.
Thanks!
Update: I managed to track down a few different stock firmware images for the US model (even here there are variants, depending on which carrier they were sold through). First I flashed the modem firmware, confirmed that that had been applied successfully, and it booted ok, and LTE/Wifi worked normally, but I still didnt get the LTE bands or 5ghz wifi I was looking for. Next I just went whole hog and flashed the entire -5 US firmware and can confirm, the XT1955-5 firmware WILL fully flash onto the XT1955-2 without any problem, and will NOT nerf your RAM/Storage down to US model levels. LTE/Wifi work just as they did with stock -2 firmware, unfortunately this didnt help the lack of US LTE bands or 5GHz wifi... so
Looking at the "Baseband" in fastboot and within Android, the modem firmware had indeed successfully changed to the version that is in the US firmware, yet following the correct US version numbers it still had the "LATAM....." (meaning Latin America I'm guessing, this model was meant for Mexico), so theres still something else that needs to be changed, I'm gonna do some research on other phones that may have had the same problems and software locks to get an idea on how this might be changed. As always, any insight is welcome.
If anyone wants/needs the US variant firmwares to play with, let me know and I'll get them to you, since they were nearly impossible to find. For now I've flashed back to the stock -2 firmware (I have that too if you need, although this was really easy to find online).
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.
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I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me
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Got it in the PM, thanks. According to that article, my Mexican -2 should also not have dual SIM slots which it certainly does. I wish there was a way to tell on the device itself which bands it can pick up since there's, as you said, so much conflicting information regarding this phone. I can tell you with absolute certainty that it doesn't support 5ghz wifi though, also it took a call to my carrier to get them to enable the wifi hotspot (other phones I've tested got this provisioned automatically) and wifi calling doesn't even appear as an option either.
mtlvince said:
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.
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I'll be following this thread. Keep us posted with what you come up with. Would love a dual sim with the band coverage of the US model. I have a 1955-2, works fine on Att with LTE. Tried a Verizon Sim, had LTE data but no calling.
You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/
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You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/
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Dammit, yes those are what I was after, and all the searching in the world didn't give me that site. Well, that makes it easier, Thanks!
Update: I may have gotten all LTE bands working on the XT1955-2. Guide here to try it for yourself:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power/how-to/guide-moto-g7-power-supra-enable-lte-t3925246
Another update: running "./fastboot oem hw" gives us these values. We see that RAM and storage capacity are based on "hwprobe", meaning (im guessing) that it will actually look at what's physically installed in order to determine what it should use for a value, whereas radio and NFC are based on hwid, meaning (again, im guessing) that it compares the actual hardware ID to a list (somewhere) to determine what vaules it should use for radio and NFC, suggesting that the actual hardware we're after may be present, but just software disabled due to the hwid.
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And of course, attempting to change that doesn't work since that option is locked/protected and unprotecting it is "not allowed command"
At this stage, I'm assuming we'll need to wait for a custom kernel? I've tried unpacking boot.img, but theres nothing in ramdisk\oem or ramdisk\vendor to try and play around with.
Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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Should be able to. I have flashed the US retail firmware to the international version. I did have an issue with the US firmware on the international phone using the international modem. Worked fine except for people not hearing me on calls. So there could be an issue with mixing modems and firmwares. I flashed the US modem and it was fixed.
I also flashed the US Retail firmware onto a Metro phone in an attempt to unlock it, didn't unlockit. Phone worked fine though.
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If you have the Amazon version that is subsidized by Amazon with ads, then no. Moto will not give you the bootloader unlock code for that because that would mean Amazon couldn't show you a bunch of annoying advertisements.
I have already unlocked bootloader and flashed metro firmware
Guys, this may be worth checking out. This is a confirmed method that was used to enable LTE Band 12 on the Moto E LTE xt1527 (Surnia), by using Qualcomm's QPST/QXDM radio diag utilities after booting the device into "BP Tools" mode from the AP Fastboot menu. The method delves off into some data entry using binary code. Theoretically, this method should work on any Motorola device with a Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC. The OP notes that having stock firmware installed does seem to be a requirement for tweaking LTE band enablement, but that once the desired bands are enabled, a custom ROM can ibe installed and the bands will remain intact & supported.
So anyway, here is a link to the tutorial thread, which contains links for the DIAG port drivers you will need, as well as links for the QPST & QXDM utilities. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-enable-lte-bands-surnia-t3351673
In the case of the International variant of the Moto G7 Power (xt1955-2), it is feasible that any lack of LTE band support has littler to do with the baseband radio firmware itself than it does omissions/restrictions implemented by the OEM. This has been the status quo for Motrola on LTE band support for many years.
Motorola's official specs list the xt1755-2 as having LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40 & 41. On the other hand, the US variants are docemented to have these LTE bands: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 14(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100), 71(600). Considering that both the International & US Moto G7 Power variants are powered by the same SoC platform (albeit some marked performance differences), it is more likely than not that certain LTE Bands on the International variants were simply disabled via factory protocol.
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When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?
Has anyone gotten band 12 and 71 working on the XT1955-2?
C0l0njay said:
When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?
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Unlock can't be achieved by simply a firmware flash ,is not that simple. If it were that simple don't you think everyone will have an unlocked device by now and unlocking issue won't even exist. ?
i am having a hard time finding the 1955-2 latest firmware for may-june 2019 . Can you give me a link to that if possible can you give me the easiest steps on how you flashed the 1955-5 firmware on the 1955-2.the bootloader isunlocked on my moto g7 power 1955-2 model. .
Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.
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Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.
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krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!
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krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!
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I have the 1955-5. If you go to the forum main menu you will see a sticky post about enabling all bands possibly. I followed that threads instructions to do it. One hiccup though is that the qpst link doesn't work and you need to find a suitable version near that to download. I completed all bands on my phone, even though it doesn't help my signal. I am wondering if any of the different radios would help me.

Different versions of Xperia 5ii

I found there are 3 different versions of Xperia 5ii.
XQ-AS52, XQ-AS62, XQ-AS72
Anyone know the differences on these three models?
It seems based on product codes and xpericheck:
XQ-AS52 - EUROPE - 128Gb, 5G
XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
XQ-AS72 - China/HK/Tw, 256Gb, 5G
My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.
So, no difference in the hardware and radios from what I read. I got the XQ-AS72 and I'm on Verizon. Initially, the IMEI said that it wouldn't work on Verizon. But if you get with the right tech rep on chat, tell them that you need to set up a CDMA-less phone. I did it today and got the phone working on Verizon! Only using LTE, but Verizon is killing off 3g (read: CDMA) at the end of the year, so can't imagine that will be an issue. Off to the races with a cheaper phone with double the internal storage than what I could order in the US....
Update: Phone works on Verizon. Did an online chat with tech support, and told them that I needed to be able to activate a phone as CDMA-less. I got hooked with a dude who had been with them for 7 years or so and he's all "I know exactly what you want to do and how to do it." Half hour later, I'm on the network and swinging large!
Andolss said:
My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.
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Install the official tool from Sony, Xperia Companion, and run a repair. I had the same issue. Now I am on 58.0.A.22.21 with October patches. You can easily use this tool, it is the official tool from Sony, so you are not illegaly flashing or unlocking it.
Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.
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Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.
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I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.
misbehave said:
I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.
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Are you getting VoLTE on T-mobile out of the box, or did you need to flash the US firmware? Thinking of ordering the same version (for double the storage and the blue color) but from what I've seen so far seems like I need to flash the US firmware in order to get VoLTE to work on T-mobile.
Hi all! Guys, I am trying to bring all known info into one list, so IF YOU KNOW YOUR DEVICE\FIRMWARE REGION, could you please share model, memory capacity, 1sim or 2 sim, region and color followed by screenshot of Software Info page?
Just enter Service menu by dialing *#*#7378423#*#* , then go to Software Info
It will help me a lot.
Here is an example of what and how I would see it.
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Blue
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XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver
centaurian said:
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver
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What is Customized EEA?
XQ-AS72 8\256Gb Dual Sim (HK I think) Blue
(You can also see my 1 bar reception even though there's a cell tower 50 meters outside my window)
Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):
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Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):
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How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it
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How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it
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Huh! That's the main point and problem. For now I\We don't know any working way to check xperia 5 II CID. If we could it would solve a problem with device region identification. But for now we can only rely on what Software info says and to try to understand what SOFTWARE VERIONS like GLOBALEEA-A2, GLOBAL-C2, etc. and PRODUCT CODES means. At leats that's what I am trying to do.
@Cptnfruitloops - You have HK or TW. I can't tell which one directly - or at least from shared info.
@LOCKDOC_UA - Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
Very interesting for identification is also "LTA version" (Yeh I dumped it from FWs). At least for XQ-AS72, where it can be used for distinguish CN from SEA and from TW/HK (they share same elabel). It won't help to distinguish XQ-AS52 versions though, since they share same elabel.
Anyway, those labels are quite interesting in few ways.
For example TW/HK version contains information about charging voltages/currents:
And for example Japanese versions (SO-52A) contains FM radio (If you check its FCC ID: PY7-08372L https://fccid.io/PY7-08372L - compare with European version FCC ID: PY7-310Z https://fccid.io/PY7-30637Z which doesn't have it.
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Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
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You're right. Just now I discovered such info inside firmwares downloaded from xperifirm. Thanks
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XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
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Who can explain why US version has no 5G support? This model has different hardware? I thought 5G modem is a part of Snapdragon 865.
Does anyone know what ROW_Commercial means?
@LOCKDOC_UA
Its simple - they decided to turn it off since it (modem HW) doesn't support 5G bands used in US (It support only bands 1, 3, 8, 28, 77, 78 - none of those will work in US).
Because of that you can't market it as 5G phone in US - Support would be overwhelmed with questions from customers - I bought this 5G phone and it doesn't work with my operator? Which operator should I use to get 5G? We are sorry - none will work. So to avoid it they simply decided to turn it off.
Also forget 5G roaming - It doesn't work anywhere yet - so even keeping surprise overseas 5G doesn't make any sense.
@Cptnfruitloops - I guess its current used modem configuration, but may be I am wrong.

Question Band 12 not working on Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G (veux)

I AM BASED IN UNITED STATES
Hi there, I previously have been using Redmi Note phones since the note 8 with AT&T, but as of this February, AT&T blacklisted my Note 10 Pro's IMEI and I had to switch to a Samsung. It has been absolutely horrible so I have been trying to escape AT&T.
I am currently trying Mint mobile because they will support whatever brand phone you bring as long as it can connect to their network.
I was split between buying a OnePlus phone, but the Xiaomi offers such better looking design and better specifications at $100 cheaper.
Mint Mobile is a T-Mobile NVMO for those of you who don't know, and it operates it's 4G network on bands 2, 4, 12, and 71. 2 and 4 primarily in cities, 12 and 71 for long distance rural areas (lower frequency = better range)
As seen below, any of the OnePlus phones cover all T-Mobile bands, and then some. The Note 10 Pro is lacking one of the long distance 4G bands, so I have almost no service with it unless I am in a city.
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I chose to purchase the Note 11 Pro 5G as it supports one of the long range frequencies, so I figured it would be good enough for what I want.
However upon receiving and activating the device with my Mint Mobile SIM, it has no better coverage than my Note 10 Pro. I have been for the past day trying to figure out why this is... and I find this menu in the phone that allows you to select which band to use, and 12 is not listed!!! I still get service on bands 2 and 4, but as you can see in screenshot barely enough to use data.
So I am trying some of the threads here on XDA to "unlock additional bands" but no luck so far... I am frustrated and love the xiaomi devices, they offer hardware at prices nobody else does, and I would hate to leave. Does anybody else have any info about this that might be helpful to me?
Willing to toss some money your way if you know what you're talking about can help me make this phone work!!!
cproo12 said:
I AM BASED IN UNITED STATES
Hi there, I previously have been using Redmi Note phones since the note 8 with AT&T, but as of this February, AT&T blacklisted my Note 10 Pro's IMEI and I had to switch to a Samsung. It has been absolutely horrible so I have been trying to escape AT&T.
I am currently trying Mint mobile because they will support whatever brand phone you bring as long as it can connect to their network.
I was split between buying a OnePlus phone, but the Xiaomi offers such better looking design and better specifications at $100 cheaper.
Mint Mobile is a T-Mobile NVMO for those of you who don't know, and it operates it's 4G network on bands 2, 4, 12, and 71. 2 and 4 primarily in cities, 12 and 71 for long distance rural areas (lower frequency = better range)
As seen below, any of the OnePlus phones cover all T-Mobile bands, and then some. The Note 10 Pro is lacking one of the long distance 4G bands, so I have almost no service with it unless I am in a city.
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I chose to purchase the Note 11 Pro 5G as it supports one of the long range frequencies, so I figured it would be good enough for what I want.
However upon receiving and activating the device with my Mint Mobile SIM, it has no better coverage than my Note 10 Pro. I have been for the past day trying to figure out why this is... and I find this menu in the phone that allows you to select which band to use, and 12 is not listed!!! I still get service on bands 2 and 4, but as you can see in screenshot barely enough to use data.
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So I am trying some of the threads here on XDA to "unlock additional bands" but no luck so far... I am frustrated and love the xiaomi devices, they offer hardware at prices nobody else does, and I would hate to leave. Does anybody else have any info about this that might be helpful to me?
Willing to toss some money your way if you know what you're talking about can help me make this phone work!!!
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Hi I'm having the same problem. Can you share the phone code or name of this app that your using?
@lordboo03 I am using "activity launcher" and opening Settings > .MiuiBandMode
from there you can choose which bands are prioritized, but band 12 is not an option, which is why I am making this post...
There is no solution for you to follow if that's what you are looking for
Have you tried asking the seller or manufacturer why the global model is missing those bands mentioned ?
OP, you wrote this massive thesis yet you didn’t include important information like model number product code / sku for the device in hand.
In any case there are two similar versions to the one you bought , I’m guessing you got the wrong one. The other model has a “+” in its description title and the one you bought has been misrepresented on Amazon with band 12.
Yes, been in contact with Xiaomi and retailer, they are both saying it should support band 12 trying to get to a more technical support via xiaomi, but hard to find one that doesn't only speak chinese
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Sorry, I figured saying it was "veuxg" was accurate enough. The Model is 2201116SG.
I do have the global version, NOT the +, I'm familiar with the difference and was going to purchase the 11 Pro+ 5G model for fast charging, but it uses Dimensity instead of SnapDragon so I figured it will have limited development support.
cproo12 said:
Yes, been in contact with Xiaomi and retailer, they are both saying it should support band 12 trying to get to a more technical support via xiaomi, but hard to find one that doesn't only speak chinese
Sorry, I figured saying it was "veuxg" was accurate enough. The Model is 2201116SG.
I do have the global version, NOT the +, I'm familiar with the difference and was going to purchase the 11 Pro+ 5G model for fast charging, but it uses Dimensity instead of SnapDragon so I figured it will have limited development support.
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OET List Exhibits Report
So check your device FCC ID, is it 2AFZZ16SG ?
Almost pulled the trigger on the same one last week.
https://smile.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Factory-Unlocked-Verizon-Graphite/dp/B09RZYJ9PG/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2QNRGWGQKIOJC&keywords=redmi%2Bnote%2B11&qid=1651065898&sprefix=redmi%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-6&th=1
Yes just checked in settings > certification and it is 2AFZZ16SG.
Thank you so much for that website! I didn't know it exists. So this 100% confirms that the device does support band 12.
According to page 4 of this document... everything should be working fine. So I assume this must be a T-Mobile/Mint mobile problem and they didn't know what I was talking about last time I called.
I guess my next option for getting help will be calling again and asking for technical support.
Update: I have called Mint Mobile and they "updated some setting in their system" (I asked what this meant and they refused to elaborate further... however I am now seeing the following:
I am connected on band 66 (subset of band 4), and sometimes get aggregate with band 2, but band 12 is a "neighbor cell" so I believe it worked. I am going to drive out into the middle of nowhere some time this weekend where I should only be able to get band 12 and see if I have service.
Mint also confirmed this:
cproo12 said:
Update: I have called Mint Mobile and they "updated some setting in their system" (I asked what this meant and they refused to elaborate further... however I am now seeing the following:
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I am connected on band 66 (subset of band 4), and sometimes get aggregate with band 2, but band 12 is a "neighbor cell" so I believe it worked. I am going to drive out into the middle of nowhere some time this weekend where I should only be able to get band 12 and see if I have service.
Mint also confirmed this:
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Thanks for the update so I'm guessing since we have the same model I should be good too?
Man that is an absolutely awful crop.
I can't speak regarding your situation, or even my own, as I still have to drive out into the middle of nowhere where my phone will stop trying to connect to 2/4 towers. I need somewhere where there is only band 12. I just don't have the time to do that today.
Will update again this weekend
cproo12 said:
Update: I have called Mint Mobile and they "updated some setting in their system" (I asked what this meant and they refused to elaborate further... however I am now seeing the following:
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I am connected on band 66 (subset of band 4), and sometimes get aggregate with band 2, but band 12 is a "neighbor cell" so I believe it worked. I am going to drive out into the middle of nowhere some time this weekend where I should only be able to get band 12 and see if I have service.
Mint also confirmed this:
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Still don't understand why the band selection menu within your phone didn't show BAND 12 ( does it now?), it was my understanding that the menu lists all bands that are available on a hardware level not what the radio was picking up. In any case band 12 on its own is relatively useless for data throughput last time I checked.
This also still has me a bit confused, I am not seeing band 12 here still either... but the phone picked it up at some point so the support is there.
I have been in contact with Xiaomi every day but none of the English speaking customer sales reps know what I'm talking about
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Still don't understand why the band selection menu within your phone didn't show BAND 12 ( does it now?), it was my understanding that the menu lists all bands that are available on a hardware level not what the radio was picking up. In any case band 12 on its own is relatively useless for data throughput last time I checked.
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I am also so confused by this. I have been troubleshooting still for hours every day to no avail. I have driven for hours around the state and still not having and functionality with band 12. I can see the towers in "neighboring cells" but my device never connects to them.
I hate to say it, but I think I am going to get stuck returning this killer budget phone and going with a OnePlus 9 Pro
cproo12 said:
I am also so confused by this. I have been troubleshooting still for hours every day to no avail. I have driven for hours around the state and still not having and functionality with band 12. I can see the towers in "neighboring cells" but my device never connects to them.
I hate to say it, but I think I am going to get stuck returning this killer budget phone and going with a OnePlus 9 Pro
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Maybe something to do with TMobile not whitelisting it fully ? Shame really how the carriers truly lock down their customers from competition AT&T being the worst culprit.
I don't believe so, because in one of my other posts:
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Mint confirmed functionality and compatibility. I also sat on the phone with them for hours today and tried to figure it out.
I might be able to get away with bands 2 and 4, I really want to avoid new OnePlus, but I do need decent coverage since I do so much work from my phone...
I was hoping somebody might be able to assist me. I just ordered this phone for my mother In law, she's in NJ and she uses metro (formerly pcs). They are telling her that this Redmi note 11 pro 5G is not compatible with their network. She's definitely open to switching to mint... That's who I use. But mints website tries to tell us that this device isn't compatible. Clearly you can use this phone on mints network. But what setting will we need to adjust to make that possible.
@Jonathanb1999
Not open on tmobile's long range bands, would probably work if you could root device and modify low level firmware but very limited development support on a mediatek chip.
I switched to a oneplus 9 pro, i suggest you do the same. 9 Pro is a rip off, so buy your mom a nord 5g. best option in my opinion at the moment and reasonable price.
Yeah, Ive gotta see if we can return the Redmi. . So you recommend the Nord .. the N200 or the N20? Also, I appreciate the advice man. Big time!
cproo12 said:
@Jonathanb1999
Not open on tmobile's long range bands, would probably work if you could root device and modify low level firmware but very limited development support on a mediatek chip.
I switched to a oneplus 9 pro, i suggest you do the same. 9 Pro is a rip off, so buy your mom a nord 5g. best option in my opinion at the moment and reasonable price.
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Yeah, Ive gotta see if we can return the Redmi. . So you recommend the Nord .. the N200 or the N20? Also, I appreciate the advice man. Big time!
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Yeah, Ive gotta see if we can return the Redmi. . So you recommend the Nord .. the N200 or the N20? Also, I appreciate the advice man. Big time!
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I only have experience with Oneplus' pro series phones, but either are probably good options. That or a google pixel, but I can at least confirm excellent compatibility Oneplus <=> TMo
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Hello everyone..I own the redmi note 11 pro+. I noticed that with the headphones also inserted via Bluetooh .. The notification sound is heard only in the headphones. Is there a way to hear the sound in headphones and phone speaker? Can anyone help me Thanks a lot

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