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I join the question. Maybe somebody has an idea about creating custom roms. From the manufacturer's side, there is nothing to count on too much. They gave it a correction from January. About Android 10, nothing is known and it is not known if it spends on this model at all.
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It's just a fact that some devices are well developed, others aren't.
That depends on the devices the developer own by themselves, that's why every Pixel or One Plus has a lot of development.
I was about to buy a G8+ (I own a Moto G 2014 and a Moto G5+ which are in active development until today) but I saw that nothing was happening here so as I got the chance I bought a Xiaomi mi 9T. It's cheaper than the Pixels and a lot of devs own it.
It's one thing to buy the device of your choice and another thing to have a lot of ROMs, kernels and tweaks to choose from.
You have to make your decision.
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I have seen some AOSP been marked as tested on G8 Plus.. I tried to find out how to install a GSI, but no success yet.. As i understand, the G8 + should be Treble compatible. Have tried to install some AOSP images but it only goes into boot loop..
have you been successful in installing AOSP?
In regard to that matter I don't know if I should buy G8+ or G7+
I hope G8+ will get some good custom firmwares...
I might also consider the purchase of a Realme 5pro for the same price but I don't know how in compares in terms of sturdyness to the moto G.
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It's just a fact that some devices are well developed, others aren't.
That depends on the devices the developer own by themselves, that's why every Pixel or One Plus has a lot of development.
I was about to buy a G8+ (I own a Moto G 2014 and a Moto G5+ which are in active development until today) but I saw that nothing was happening here so as I got the chance I bought a Xiaomi mi 9T. It's cheaper than the Pixels and a lot of devs own it.
It's one thing to buy the device of your choice and another thing to have a lot of ROMs, kernels and tweaks to choose from.
You have to make your decision.
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Doesn't mi show ads on they UI at homescreen, and they also have some privacy issues right?
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Doesn't mi show ads on they UI at homescreen, and they also have some privacy issues right?
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I never had any ads on my homescreen/UI and about ads in general: Even if you don't root your device to get rid of this stuff: It's easy to freeze/deactivate apps that have privacy issues or ads in them.
I used ADB to get rid of the Xiaomi browser (one of the most privacy problematic apps) and several other ones. I'm not rooted atm (will be in the future) but even without root privileges you can use DNS66, Adaway 5 beta or blokada and I see no ads at all.
I was aware of the problems a Xiaomi device could cause but it's more than easy to find ways to solve these problems and I'm happy with the decision to buy the 9T.
I will root it in June when miui 12 comes out and I think that will make things even easier.
Also there are custom ROMs or EU.builds etc.
That's all better than no development. I'm a big fan of the pure Motorola software but without any development the G8 is not the right thing for me.
I don't regret buying that Xiaomi device.
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As we know India got the Nougat. Brazil did too. EU finally gets it's share.
Nothing in US, except a soak announced by RepublicWireless. On the official Motorola / lenovo forums you can be banned if you talk about sideloading the Nougat on US devices. While Moto allows unlocking the bootloader by providing the unlock codes (in US they benefit from that by canceling the warranty), they frown upon what happens next. Like people will unlock the bootloader just for the pleasure of giving up the warranty, nothing more.
I was a Moto fan, me and my family owned a Moto DEFY XT (557D), MotoX (1st gen), Moto G (3rd gen), Moto E (2015) and now in use we have a Moto G4 Plus and a Moto X Pure.
Sadly, service (updates) for US is now last in line, bad interactions on their forums, no true international LTE bands support (band 20 is ommited from US phones, even if it is becoming one of the most important in EU for CA and rural).
I was planning to get the next Moto G5, but sadly I will have to move to a different company for my next phone.
What's sad is the fact that for each of us that have purchased their last Moto, there are probably 10 people that's never owned a Moto that will buy it. The US is pretty much the backwater for Lenovo and we probably are only a small fraction of their sales.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
However my beef is mainly that lenovo had put the US market on backburner.
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Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
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All very true. But it seems that the updated drivers for various features are made available long before stock ROM upgrades, thus custom ROM's are also available. In five years of using Android smart phones and tablets, I have never had to wait long for decent custom ROMs based on the latest version as opposed to the long delays for stock upgrades by some manufacturers. Huawei and Asus come to mind.
Anyhow, I wasn't trying to negate anyone's position about the current situation. I merely was stating my own personal opinion and what works for me. My own 2-cents worth so to speak.
US soak seems to be older (-13) than what is out now (-14). Probably is somehow related to the RepublicWireless preloaded app.
I would like to try the US soak test. Has anyone have a URL for it? I heard their was issues but sounds like the same issues I read about Nougat. Any truth to that?
I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
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The main reason I've stuck with Moto so long is the custom firmware options. It's actually unprecedented for me to be still running a stock rom all this time.
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I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I ran Nougat NPJ25.93-14 for a week and didn't see any battery drain whatsoever. In fact, the battery life was slightly better than any of the custom ROMs I have tried. I would have stuck with it except I missed the advanced boot menu and being able to customize the status bar. Not to mention it still has bloat that I really don't need.
Curious as to why we aren't really seeing any developer ROMs for this phone. Is it because not many people purchased it, or because of Xiaomi? It can't be due to the 845 chipset since the OnePlus6 has plenty of development at this point already.
Mainly because the code is recent and needs some work , lineage is working on it plus some other devs. Be patient.
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Mainly because the code is recent and needs some work , lineage is working on it plus some other devs. Be patient.
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Okay good, I was just worried we wouldn't see any. Hopefully they can work around the anti-rollback as well. It seems there are some recoveries for the Redmi Note 5 that allows for custom ROM installation.
as the title says i wonder why there is so "little" development for the i9lite going on
i thought a device with this great specs for such a little price would be very interesting, but when you look at similar devices as the 9t or 9t pro there is a lot more of development
don't get me wrong i really thank all the devs that work on the i9lite right now, but i am a little bit worried as the a2 lite i have right now is also a great device but without much development there are only a few custom roms and and a hardly working twrp for it
my i 9lite is actually on the way to me, but right now i am really afraid that i will get in the same problem as with the a2 lite that there is absolutely no interest for the devs to work for this device.
Maybe the 9t(pro) would have been the better decision regarding this, but i really do not like the front cam of the T devices
I wish i could do a little developing for custom roms myself but i do not have the skills :crying: -
what do you guys think about it or you you have no concerns in this direction and you are really happy with the i9lite an how things are at the moment ?
I'm the same as you, waiting for mine to arrive.
Moving from Moto g5 plus it looks pretty quiet here.
I hope we can get a decent gcam at least
I don't know about other countries but in France the Mi 9 Lite just started becoming available through carriers. It might be that there are just less people equipped with that phone for now. I will also get a Mi 9 lite, there is already Lineage and GSI, so the roms I'm most interested in are there already.
Just reading from telegram group. One developer (coderzs)is ready to make base tree(I'm not sure of the term),also a recognized developer of mia2 lineage and other custom rom fo a2. But they trying to raise fund to get the device. I think it's just a matter of time and we can see a lot custom here in xda. Just follow the telegram group,search for mi9t lite/Cc9 global.
For there to be active development and/or many developers, the device must be widely available and relatively popular. You can't expect all those things to be a fact barely few months after device release. Seeing as it has great specs and is reasonably priced, it's just a matter of time until the device becomes interesting to developers.
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
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a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, read the STICKY!
A huge factor in ROM development is the geographic area in which the device is popular. Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in, but for some reason the developer scene in European countries is lackluster at best. Fortunately, Russia is another country famously active for Android developing and, apparently, this phone is doing fairly well there.
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
In the meantime, my standard response is the usual: if you really can't stand MIUI, give GSIs a shot! They're far better than I thought!
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Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
thanks for all your suggestions and opinions so far, will try to get onto telegram this weekend and see how this works.
I've Purchased Mi9Lite About 2 Month Ago(Iran- From Abu Dubai) , Device is Great For Price (350-400$ In My Country! ) in Compare to other devices like RN8P
But development???
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
But there's still a hope, In Russian Forums (4pda) some devs r developing kangaroo kernel for this device
MIUI Rom Are So Smooth but have little bugs and they're annoying like app freezing while using VPN!
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There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/development
we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
I bought mi 9 lite for 217$ month ago. This is the best choice of Mi9/Mi9T because of its price and card slot.
This smartfon had working LOS 2 months after world release! Now LOS is ebought mature for use it as daily driver. With ported gcam is absolutely amasing. My old xperia z3c waited years for first LOS, and up to 5 years for OFFICIAL version of LOS.
If Mi9 will sell itself very good, we will see many other custom roms.
I will stay with LOS, because is the best for me.
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we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
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Even with GSI, I could not make the camera work satisfactorily and rom to pass the safetynet, and the statusbar does not display the icons properly ...
I have the mi a3 and I'm looking at the 9 lite for the bigger and more high res screen. But yeah there's definitely more development for the a3 though it was officially launched in September vs July (according to gsmarena). I do hope we get more devs for this phone, because it seems like a good one. I'm already stretching my budget with the 9 lite. I don't want to stretch more with the 9t
It's just not that popular as other devices are right now..
I just purchased it though, looking nice, when I get it first thing I'll do will be unlocking BL.
I think this phone has not released yet (or released very recently) in India, this will boost activity a lot.
Just kinda surprised custom recovery is not at the official twrp site yet.
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
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Mi Cc9 was released in India 9 months ago or so. The Mi9 Lite is a rebranded CC9. The specs are all the same afaik.
I made a mistake. See the next reply.
I'm interested in this phone and wondering what custom ROM support may be like for the device? I had a quick look at the pixel 4 and it's not massively supported but I don't really know how recent or popular it is?
I'm currently using a Xiaomi mi9t with pixel experience+. I know the p4a will be similar if not the same minus the additional features added in the pe+ version, which I quite like tbh.
I know it's early days and probably most can't even get their hands on the phone yet but curious what you might expect based on previous pixel devices?
I would also be interested in this. The 4a's "stock" Android is fine, but there are very few customization options. For example, the setting to hide specific Satus Bar icons is available in Settings but greyed out and inaccessible. I would really love to install LineageOS on this device.
As for popularity, the Pixel 4 was expensive and had poor battery life, so I don't think it had many adopters. The 4a on the otherhand is a steal at $350 and in a post-COVID world, I can see many people who need a new device going for the budget option. I really hope this helps us build a large development community
I plan on staying stock for a few weeks, but rooting and flashing roms is a weekly thing for me. I'm sure there will be plenty fairly quickly. Our codename is "sunfish", right? Much better than my current dumpling.
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One of the main developers at DU got one, it's a safe bet ROMs will be available
I would be super shocked if this device does not get any rom support as popular as it is. I believe a couple of devs have said they will start developing roms.
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It will be available in US next week for $400 (6/128)
Nice. Hopefully this device picks up in popularity now that it's being launched elsewhere. It's woefully ignored considering what it offers.
Just pulled the trigger on this from Amazon to run on Verizon. I'm expecting great things for as much as I loved my Nexus 6
i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
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i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
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Mine is also bought from Best Buy
Bootloader unlock request is same as other models.
Make sure those 5 lines from fastboot oem get_unlock_code is a complete one line (no missed character)
Giving myself buyers remorse and it hasn't even arrived yet! I currently have a Samsung Note8 (not rooted) and I'm comparing specs . . . no QC(QuickCharge) on the Motorola, lower dpi resolution, usb 2.0 vs 3.1 on the note? no mention of gorilla glass?
Those of you with the 5g ACE, what did you come from, and how is it comparing?
It does take 18 watts USB-PD
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Giving myself buyers remorse and it hasn't even arrived yet! I currently have a Samsung Note8 (not rooted) and I'm comparing specs . . . no QC(QuickCharge) on the Motorola, lower dpi resolution, usb 2.0 vs 3.1 on the note? no mention of gorilla glass?
Those of you with the 5g ACE, what did you come from, and how is it comparing?
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Coming from a Xiaomi mi mix 2s. Phone has great specs in comparison to this one. I strictly also knew this is a budget device, and for the price I can't complain. With a smooth ui and root, it's a simple phone that does what I personally need it for. The camera in this phone blows away the mix.
The wireless charge was also a feature I thought I'd miss but I just don't, and the battery lasts forever in comparison. I used to fall for the pretty colors the displays on the big brands show off. Yes, they are nice, but after a year they look like any other screen out there anyways. This display is perfectly fine, does well in all lights and is quite large.
Also the feature sets the big name brands threw out there of course are cool, but when it comes down to it the less BS that is on the phone the better it works. Plus when I bought those devices I would be unlocking and flashing ROMs anyways to remove all that bloat.
This phone is not a gaming rig, it is a basic smartphone that has decent specs. Overall I cannot complain, my old phone has much, much better hardware and a newer OS, but this phone is perfect. Only root needed with the Android One ui experience. Don't get me wrong, if developers pick this thing up I'm game to ROM it, but it just doesn't need it. 5/10 if you're looking for a flagship, but 10/10 if you're looking for a budget device.
Its mid march and not a single AOSP ROM. I am so tempted seeing this phone going for a steal on swappa in great condition, but i need AOSP. i add F-Droid and use mostly FOSS Apps. Aurora store covers the play store apps i must absolutely have. But i need AOSP because i want no play services, no google nothing.
Hopefully Motorola will release source code for G 5G and Ace, and we need developers to make Lineage
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Hopefully Motorola will release source code for G 5G and Ace, and we need developers to make Lineage
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No, what we need is full R/W access after root. I have yet to be able to move anything around thanks to this new crap with Android 10. If the Devs are going to do anything hopefully its give us a Android Pie Rom.
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i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
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I know thjis is a old post, but did you try using their format tool on the motodev portal for formatting the unlock_data string? I jumped to the same conclusion with my moto one action, however in the end it was user error on my part.
Ive had my Ace for about 12 hours, and have:
Unlocked the bootloader
Flashed HavokOS
Flashed Lineage 18.1
Flashed Android 11
Rooted\Magisked\Riru'ed\EdXsposed\GravityBox'ed
..and the phone has cooperated like a champ. I'm intentionally hard on phones, for hey thats how you learn! That and heh the wonderful folks of XDA ;-)
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I know thjis is a old post, but did you try using their format tool on the motodev portal for formatting the unlock_data string? I jumped to the same conclusion with my moto one action, however in the end it was user error on my part.
Ive had my Ace for about 12 hours, and have:
Unlocked the bootloader
Flashed HavokOS
Flashed Lineage 18.1
Flashed Android 11
Rooted\Magisked\Riru'ed\EdXsposed\GravityBox'ed
..and the phone has cooperated like a champ. I'm intentionally hard on phones, for hey thats how you learn! That and heh the wonderful folks of XDA ;-)
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Hi.How did you do that for One Ace?