The Google Pixel's Auto HDR+ camera app was recently ported to SD820 and SD821 devices, but when I try to install it on my Xperia XZ on stock firmware, Android 7.1.1, version .35, the app crashes on launch. Can anybody provide me with a link to a working APK, or is our phone just not capable of using it?
Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work
chrispearson said:
Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work
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Thanks, I didn't know that. Is there anyway to reduce the noise and artefacts in the photos, then? (without rooting the device or installing a custom ROM)
Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.
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Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.
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Thanks! I'll read some more about the manual mode. Does that mean I have to adjust the manual settings, or can I leave everything in auto?
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks for all your information! I just got this phone and I'm learning so much about it already thanks to XDA.
propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks again! I have another question relating to the camera. It goes as follows:
The Xperia XZ1 (with 8.0 Oreo) has a much better camera than the XZ Premium (with Android 7.1 Nougat), even though they have the exact same camera hardware, the XZP has much more oversharpening (and other issues that the regular XZ has), but the XZ1 seems to have much better software processing. My question is, therefore, that: Does that mean the XZ's camera will get much better as well, once the Android 8.0 update arrives?
Here is my source: https://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-xz1-camera
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Thanks again!!
propov said:
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Another question: Should I leave Smart Cleaner (the Sony tool in the "Storage & Memory" section of the settings app) on? Some people say it reduces performance, but Sony claims it optimises it. What do you think and what would you do?
I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.
JR5968 said:
I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.
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Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
As I remember it was Google Pixel camera with HDR +
Something like version 5.0 ( not sure if it was renamed)
Btw I'm on Oreo
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Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?
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Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.
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Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.
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Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad
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Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad
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The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?
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The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Exactly the same as on Nougat—no RAW support. That's too bad. Thanks for trying!
Hello everyone, I will be getting my Mi A1 in a week or two and I'm really looking forward to it. Well.. l maybe not the camera as I've seen it get some harsh reviews, especially in low light. That's why I want a thread here on how to improve the image quality. Looking into the matter it seems like google camera with hdr+ is the best bet so far? However can we share settings and tweaks here to improve it further. Also posting pictures for comparison versus stock would be great. :highfive::good::good:
I have an Mi A1 as my moto broke and needed one staright away. Being in Asia for work I had easy access to it.
I have used dark cameras for. Long time and can see that the algorithm to bump up the iso could do with a bit of modifying.. I have not had much chance to take shots.. took about 10 in total..
I will take a few shots in differing light and then import them into PC Lightroom and push a few shadows and raise iso and see what is the best result.
That info might be useful to those involved.. of what I have seen, the focus is okay, but high iso is a killer.. will report here again in a week or so.
It helps if you Untick "Enhance low light images automatically" under Settings and then shoot pictures under low light conditions with HDR on. The HHT or Hand Held Twilight mode doesn't help much also..
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It helps if you Untick "Enhance low light images automatically" under Settings and then shoot pictures under low light conditions with HDR on. The HHT or Hand Held Twilight mode doesn't help much also..
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What are your favorite settings when you shot in low light conditions ?
- Hdr ?
- HHT ?
- Untick or Tick "Enhance low light images automatically"
FerrarisIV said:
What are your favorite settings when you shot in low light conditions ?
- Hdr ?
- HHT ?
- Untick or Tick "Enhance low light images automatically"
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I don't use HHT .. isn't of much help..
Hdr is on
HHT off
Untick enhance low light images..
I tried every combination, thats the best one, if u keep the camera still.. at least the ISO problem is partially reduced.
But if you use manual mode . You can really get some good shots
Here are is a sample on manual mode. I used a light source, an led torch.
Thanks a lot: I will try, also in manual mode.
Anyway did you try Google Camera, and what is your opinion about it compared with stock camera ?
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Here are some samples on manual mode. I used a light source, an led torch.
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Thanks a lot: I will try, also in manual mode.
Anyway did you try Google Camera, and what is your opinion about it compared with stock camera ?
ps: cannot see images
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No i didn't try that still.. I'm waiting for the Oreo build to see if they improve the camera a bit. And then I'll opt for Gcam, though i know HDR+ mode is great. bt still wanna give the stock a run
Ps: you can now see those images. One of them got inverted. My bad
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No i didn't try that still.. I'm waiting for the Oreo build to see if they improve the camera a bit. And then I'll opt for Gcam, though i know HDR+ mode is great. bt still wanna give the stock a run
Ps: you can now see those images. One of them got inverted. My bad
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Thanks again. I am waiting for Oreo, too. But I don't know if i can wait to try Google Camera with Eis and Hdr+
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Thanks again. I am waiting for Oreo, too. But I don't know if i can wait to try Google Camera with Eis and Hdr+
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Same with me.. I also cant wait after seeing those HDR+ shots, but then, Oreo is just a few days away.. so
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Same with me.. I also cant wait after seeing those HDR+ shots, but then, Oreo is just a few days away.. so
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Not few days.. some weeks :highfive
anyway i am studying for Unlock and Rooting the device
Still waiting for my a1 to arrive, stupid slow swedish customs.. I think mine will be unlocked asap to push the limits! :victory:
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I've rooted my phone and installed modded gcam with hdr+ and eis enabled. Honestly I don't see so much improvement in photos...
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Really? Did you try to shot in low light conditions with Hdr + ? here should have difference... also if i still never tried everybody confirm this
enricogrim said:
I've rooted my phone and installed modded gcam with hdr+ and eis enabled. Honestly I don't see so much improvement in photos...
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Which version of Gcam and what settings do you use? I can clearly see vast improvement of low light photos taken with Gcam.
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Yes, I did some shots in low light conditions with gcam and stock camera and they are very similar. I will try more shots.
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Try try, i wait for you :good::laugh:
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I'm using GCam5.1.016-Arnova8G2-V1.3 and settings of Nexus 6 as suggested.
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Try this one: MGC_5.1.014_7.0H_C2API_v.1.5g_AllinOne.apk (model Nexus 6P, Config HDR+ Pixel 2016 Zsl Hdr, HDR+ High)
I've taken a couple with both apps, here's a few samples (HDR on both): (Left:Stock cam; Right: Google cam)
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I've taken a couple with both apps, here's a few samples (HDR on both): (Left:Stock cam; Right: Google cam)
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Incredible difference
MI A1 DETAILED REVIEW AFTER COUPLE OF DAYS OF USAGE.
Pros :
1) Potrait shots are exceptionally well in good light conditions.
2) HDR works pretty well in Daylight.
3) The Dirac Sound built in is fabulous both in terms of speakers & on headphones.
4) Build quality is amazing.
5) Voice quality is very very clear.
Cons:
1) Night mode is really really bad.(Too much noise & Shaky pictures are captured ,loses focus most of the time)
2) Lack of image stabilization while clicking pictures in HDR mode as well as normal mode.
(Slight shaking of phone loses focus in HDR mode and makes pictures blurry)(MUST NEEDED IN NEXT UPDATE)
3) HDR mode in artificial light feels too much exposed over bright light and image feels too artificial.
4) No Electronic image stabilization (EIS) while shooting video its too shaky & not upto the mark.(MUST NEEDED IN NEXT UPDATE)
5) 2X shots are not that great when zoomed even 50% and also are much noisy at times.
6) The UI is smooth but feels at times having less transiston.(Forced swipe has to be done from up to down & from down to up)
7) Selfies are bit artificial at times want it more natural and too much beautification is being applied.
8) In phone app while clearing the call history the app crashes and doesn't clear the call history. It force stops.
Shots by stock cam, with optical zoom 10x and our 2x optical zoom. In last pictures I used digital zoom, too.
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It is boring to always use the auto mode in camera so let's try the manual mode and have greater quality pictures, which is better than auto mode.
What is manual mode ?
Manual mode is one of the main settings on your camera, and it lets you manually control shutter speed, white balance, manual focus, and ISO in most. These three settings work together to control the how bright or dark your photo is (known as exposure), as well as change the overall look of the image.
What is ISO ?
In photography ISO measures the sensitivity of the image sensor. The same principles apply as in film photography – the lower the number the less sensitive your camera is to light and the finer the grain. Higher ISO settings are generally used in darker situations to get faster shutter speeds.
What is Shutter Speed ?
In photography, shutter speed or exposure time is the length of time when the film or digital sensor inside the camera is exposed to light, also when a camera's shutter is open when taking a photograph. The amount of light that reaches the film or image sensor is proportional to the exposure time.
What is White balancing ?
White balancing is a process in which a camera will attempt to detect the type of white light largely visible in different environments. This is typically utilized to account for different light sources (fluorescent, incandescent, etc.), as well as different weather types and times of day (overcast, sunny, sunset, etc.). White balance generally focuses on collecting the proper temperature of white light in a scene, which ranges from cold (blue-tinted) to warm (orange or gold-tinted).
This is one setting that is often best left on automatic settings, unless the viewfinder suggests that the automatic white balance is obviously wrong. Of note, RAW images will have to be manually white balanced in post-processing, as RAW shooting will not modify the white balance in-camera.
What is Manual Focus ?
Manual focus controls are a more recent and much-appreciated addition to the control suite of manual smartphone photographers. Most camera apps features a simple and intuitive circular slider which can be used to accurately set focus manually in lieu of the jumpier and imperfect auto-focus, something which is often exaggerated when trying to take photos of close subjects. If you want to take a closer pic of something very near try macro focus.
What is Manual exposure ?
manual exposure is a small supplement to ISO and shutter speed settings, and it is one of the rarer manual settings one will find in smartphone camera applications. If a combination of shutter speed and ISO produce an unsatisfying image, manual exposure is often offered as a way of tweaking the brightness of an image in-camera. It can quite easily be replaced by simply modifying brightness after taking the photo, but it can sometimes be more efficient to get the image right the first time.
What do we have in our Lenovo P2 :
I had Camera api2 activated and snap camera hdr+ and oneplus 5 camera apps.
Shutter speed
Minimum 0.68s maximum 1/96423s
ISO
Minimum 100 Maximum 19200
Verdict approximate values
In low light condition
Higher ISO [ 500 ~ 19200 aprx] + Higher shutter speed [0.68 ~ 1/200 aprx]
In heavy light condition
Lower ISO [below 500 aprx] + Lower shutter speed [1/200s ~ 1/96423s aprx]
Camera Api2 advantages
Raw image capture support
In depth manual mode control
Enable camera api2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/themes/flashable-zip-activating-camera-api2-t3724207
Which app is best for manual mode?
? Snap camera HDR
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Snap+camera+HDR+paid+apk&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=bXs-WuDaI4HEvQSYyLWQDQ [Google search result page, Cuz many getting confused about this app]
? Oneplus 5 camera
Download link https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/themes/stable-oneplus-5-camera-t3709983
? Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC
? Camera FV 5
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I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
Liacon said:
I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
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It's like this with all the camera apps that have avaible the raw format
At first I was thinking that the problem it's present because I usa a micro sd, but the image gets mad even without it.
I'm on the last lineage build by Higway Star
Liacon said:
It's like this with all the camera apps that have avaible the raw format
At first I was thinking that the problem it's present because I usa a micro sd, but the image gets mad even without it.
I'm on the last lineage build by Higway Star
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Only the bug in camera driver can make mess like this.
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Only the bug in camera driver can make mess like this.
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So it's a rom's related problem?
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So it's a rom's related problem?
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Same issue on stock s244, with every app.
Also, I've seen many others
Liacon said:
So it's a rom's related problem?
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icsdia said:
Same issue on stock s244, with every app.
Also, I've seen many others
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Maybe due to changing roms in mobiles the camera driver can get into buggy, not confirmed yet.
If you want Camera with Raw capture try "snap camera HDR" with force HAL1 enabled in-app setting.
If you looking for completely manual configuration try camera api2 ON in-app setting.
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I can't find force hal1, sucks.
At least the manual controls it's a very sweet thing
Liacon said:
I can't find force hal1, sucks.
At least the manual controls it's a very sweet thing
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Did you check it out properly? It is in-built in app itself.
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Did you check it out properly? It is in-built in app itself.
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I have check the same option that you show in your screen shot, but maybe it's because I have the trial version
Liacon said:
I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
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Same problem here.
Liacon said:
I have check the same option that you show in your screen shot, but maybe it's because I have the trial version
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Maybe you can get it for free if you Google it.
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Same problem here.
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With camera api2 raw fails as it is not supported in P2 right now. But without camera api2 or with Hal1 enabled you can capture raw image in DNG format.