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I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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hannanzikrea said:
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Hello, as I did write, I did try to turn them off, but animations is essential, it is is important for a device to be fun to work with, turning them off looks the system looks very boring and non inspiring. Chaning the duration scale to 0.5x did help very slightly....is still very slow.. but I can understand if people getting used to the slowness but side by side with a different device it is very slow.. and the slow animations is to blame.. and every app use animations.
It seem like this, that until the app is loaded in the memory it is slow, the transition to open apps is very slow..
but the way you are using a smartphone is you close and open apps constantly, cause you have a lot of different messaging apps for instance you switch between them constantly.
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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hannanzikrea said:
Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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So you can actually say you have a 60 FPS all the time ?
there is only 60 fps when you are at home screen but when opening and switching to app it is far below 60 fps..
I hope they get it fixed...
When the new update come I will do a factory reset also..I know that sometimes it can help..
Does any one know when we can expect a new update for European market ?
I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
blackinfinity said:
I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
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why u didnt go for g3?
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
Simona Simmy said:
why u didnt go for g3?
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
vince_junior said:
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
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yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
blackinfinity said:
Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
Simona Simmy said:
am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
blackinfinity said:
Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Oh yeah .. I sold Honor 6 and purchased alpha samsung .. jesus christ when i turned phone and seen that crap display..
I wanted smash phone onto wall !! But I decided not to do it and resell it !
Now I have Mate 7 with PROPER bright screen ..
I was sad that I sold Honor 6 .. but I found Mate 7 for £300 pounds so bought it ..
Honor 6 , Ascend P7 and Mate 7 BEST screens on market !!
blackinfinity said:
yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Correct. Animations is below 60 fps.
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Me too. No lag here.
@blackinfinity
Try check some dodgy app which runs and causing slow down.. or reset/erase whole phone and start again .. It is worth..
I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
yeticomes said:
I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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It was the same on mine, and in fact, it was laspass app !
Removing this app and my phone is smooth again. theverge.com is a good test.
Hope it helps.
o08neo said:
I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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This should work. other phones has their performance settings on default high, mate 7 use power saving mode as default.
My local online shop sell this phone for only $170 brand new, which is steal for a snapdragon 810 devices(At least in my country). The model is H959 with 32gb storage and 2gb ram i believe. Im upgrading from lumia 1520. Does it worth it? Thanks in advance (Sorry for my bad english)
170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
Helpful?
From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible
No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.
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I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
Helpful?
From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_flex2-review-1209p3.php
paco68 said:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!!
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But does the H955 work on GSM carriers like AT&T?
And how can we tell if we have 2 gb ram or 3gb ram?
Here is an Amazon url to H955 in USA
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Unlocked-Phone-Internal-Memory/dp/B00UFWB0FW/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Will this phone work in the United States?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx2EO3MN7WXWLA5/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW
Does it work with At&T?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx31RGWWG40E4P1/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW
Masteryates said:
I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:
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Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I think this is a software issue and not a hardware !
I use the default browser.
I Never use the Chrome on mobile devices.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I feel you. I used to have these sorts of issues on the Nexus 9. Things improved when I switched to Habit Browser as that seemed to be less RAM intensive than bloated Chrome. There were also some custom roms on the Nexus 9 which would employ zRAM to effectively buy another 0.5GB. Maybe something you could look at? I also went for the H950 for the Mrs due to being concerned that 2GB wasn't enough on the other versions. Its starting to feel like you cant win either way with the GF2. :crying:
paco68 said:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
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Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks
danslb said:
Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks
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- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
Possibility to disable uninstall / reinstall LG apps if you don't like.
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
Yes
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
Yes
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
Same, my record is more then 120 Hours but if you use intense you drain the battery more quickly.
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
Not tried.
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Nova Launcher work great.
paco68 said:
good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
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- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
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Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.
danslb said:
Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.
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You can install Google Phone: google-phone-3-01-08_rc8-android-apk-download/ RC8 is the last version that work on MM and is not a Nexus phone.
Also you will find Google Apps here : http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/
Hi all,
I'm confused and very hesitant about upgrading , I have a note 4 and like I said I'm very hesitant and reluctant to upgrade because I don't want to be a slave to a charger.....this is the number one reasons I hate Iphones besides not being able to expand the memory you can't switch out the battery, and you become as I stated a slave to a charger. Also I want to know if you are rooted & running the latest software does it make a difference what device you have? I know a friend of mine who has an s6 and I know one who has a note 5&6 their constantly charging it because the battery is constantly dying. can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to a note 5 if I cant expand the memory?
Can anyone tell me weather I'm doing the right thing, Or can anyone tell me anything to rest aside my fears concerning upgrading. ......thanks
srdryl said:
Hi all,
I'm confused and very hesitant about upgrading , I have a note 4 and like I said I'm very hesitant and reluctant to upgrade because I don't want to be a slave to a charger.....this is one of the reasons I hate Iphones besides not being able to expand the memory you can't switch out the battery, and you become as I stated a slave to a charger. I know a friend of mine who has an s6 and I know one who has a note 5&6 their constantly charging it because the battery is constantly dying.
Can anyone tell me weather I'm doing the right thing, Or can anyone tell me anything to rest aside my fears concerning upgrading. ......thanks
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Best phone I've ever owned. Have a 64gb model. I have great battery life, of course I am rooted with my custom ROM.
rmarinella said:
Best phone I've ever owned. Have a 64gb model. I have great battery life, of course I am rooted with my custom ROM.
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How did you root it w/o being able to take off the back or taking out the battery especially if it overheats ?
A friend of mine just got a brand new note 5 & a s7 & she's complaining the battery is over heating & dying quick.
srdryl said:
How did you root it w/o being able to take off the back or taking out the battery especially if it overheats ?
A friend of mine just got a brand new note 5 & a s7 & she's complaining the battery is over heating & dying quick.
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Well, I was trying to help. Perhaps a better choice would be a Samsung Jitterbug.
The Note5 is an amazing phone. I wish there weren't as many variants around the world, so that the development was consolidated, though...
Anyway! You don't need to take out the battery to root. You cannot access the battery with this phone. If it overheats, and I don't think mine ever has, it will just shut off (theoretically), or you can hold down power, home, and down volume buttons to reboot it.
If you wait a few weeks, the market will be flooded with used Note5's, so you might be able to pick one up for cheap.
Just wait until the Note 8
rmarinella said:
Well, I was trying to help. Perhaps a better choice would be a Samsung Jitterbug.
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ROFL. I'm dead!
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really digging on Sammy anymore. After having this phone I will never go back to a phone without front firing speakers and a "selfie" flash. I don't give two figs about Moto mods but give me a "refresh" of this phone with updated specs and I'm all in! Otherwise GoodbyeMoto.
unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
acejavelin said:
Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Very happy with it, it'll last me another year or two at least If I keep charging up to 90% to help with the long run, but I would have to say my next phone definitely would have front facing speakers and has a big screen, which the newer phones are having bigger screens so that's an easy mark to pass. The front facing speakers though, that's a dying breed now a days because of the new bezeless design of newer flagships.
Moto z with battery mod
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I am waiting to see what the Nokia 9 spec are rumoured front facing stereo speakers have a nice big screen ?
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For me it definitely won't be another motorola/lenovo phone.
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
I'll probably go over to lg g5, xiaomi mi6 ot oneplus 3t whichever gets cheaper
OCmylife said:
I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
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It is just a damn shame the OP3T is GSM only, for those of us in the US. I get it, though; it's an international device and the CDMA market is too small globally to be worth changing the whole design over. Other than that, it seems like as close to a perfect phone as you'll find in today's compromised market.
My next will be Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or S8+. This probably won't happen until around Black Friday. I'm really fond of my Moto X but miss Touch Wiz.
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
Feahnor said:
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
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I agree with the 3T if your on GSM get it I've also switched and man was it worth it I even relocked my bootloader and stayed on stock it's that good I get 4 or 5 hours SOT when I'm at work and I got terrible service there and don't even need to charge midday I'll have 15% before I plug in when I hit the bed when I'm not at work I'll get 2 days with 7 hr SOT it's a beast hands down no root or mods
matthelm said:
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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Feahnor said:
I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Then I say go for the iPhone. My general opinion is that Android was partially designed with the idea of customizing the user experience.
As far as being a secure OS, Android itself is secure. With security updates being provided regularly now, it is more so. Honestly, a Google phone, aka Pixel, will get timely updates, doesn't require mods to be usable, and has the option to customize should you choose to do so. And not to mention no proprietary software causing security issues (here's looking at you LG).
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Apple is doing its proprietary implementation of everything too, it's even worse than android devices.
And why having each OEM making their UX for android make it unsecure, unstable and unsafe ?
User having to work to make things work ? isn't your phone working as the OEM intended it to be ? you bought your phone not knowing what it can or can't do ? I wont buy a phone that can't have a specific feature that i need and then complain that i have to implement it by myself
Your arguments to explain why you're moving to IOS are flimsy.
You can be bored of android, or wanting to try IOS, but man android unsafe, unsecure or unstable ? custom roms can be unstable, but it's not the OEM fault.
aybarrap1 said:
Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I gave up on CDMA and Verizon in general about 4 years ago with a Nexus 4... I've bounced between a few providers since then, will never go back to Verizon. I pay $36 per month per line for unlimited calls and texts, and 8GB of unthrottled AT&T LTE data per line. I'll deal with marginal service in a few rural areas I rarely go as a trade-off.
On paper the Pixel 6a seems great. But I've seen many reports that there's a serious overheating problem and network/connectivity drop issues. As both would be deal breakers for me, should I not buy this phone (which I was heretofore strongly considering due to the great chip and smaller phone size), and are these problems really as widespread as it seems?
No connectivity issues on Verizon. Temperature is an issue on the June firmware shipped with models (pre release?). On A13 I don't have performance or heat problems anymore. Using MVK kernels also helped a great deal.
I suggest disabling 5G, adaptive connectivity, mobile data always active and windows blur (a must for all android devices) under developer options.
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No connectivity issues on Verizon. Temperature is an issue on the June firmware shipped with models (pre release?). On A13 I don't have performance or heat problems anymore. Using MVK kernels also helped a great deal.
I suggest disabling 5G, adaptive connectivity, mobile data always active and windows blur (a must for all android devices) under developer options.
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Thanks. Can yo explain what A13, MKV kernels, and windows blur are? Thanks.
xda-eh said:
Thanks. Can yo explain what A13, MKV kernels, and windows blur are? Thanks.
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Window blurs | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
[CLOSED][KERNEL] [Android 13] [v13.1] MVK - Maximum Velocity Kernel
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Mixlator said:
Window blurs | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
[CLOSED][KERNEL] [Android 13] [v13.1] MVK - Maximum Velocity Kernel
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So unless I replace Android with MVK you would not recommend getting a Pixel 6a?
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So unless I replace Android with MVK you would not recommend getting a Pixel 6a?
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Second day with Pixel 6a here and it's good. Little hot at first but once updated to Android 13 (that's what A13 means) it's the same as my old Pixel 3. The only thing I don't like about it so far is the crappy fingerprint scanner. Every single one built into the screen I've ever tried was ****e and Pixel 6a is no exception, Pixel 3 physical scanner at the back was brilliant. Also wish Pixel 6a was slightly smaller (it's bigger than Pixel 3) as I like compact phones, but will get used to it (the size, not the fingerprint scanner )
Pakabidu said:
Second day with Pixel 6a here and it's good. Little hot at first but once updated to Android 13 (that's what A13 means) it's the same as my old Pixel 3. The only thing I don't like about it so far is the crappy fingerprint scanner. Every single one built into the screen I've ever tried was ****e and Pixel 6a is no exception, Pixel 3 physical scanner at the back was brilliant. Also wish Pixel 6a was slightly smaller (it's bigger than Pixel 3) as I like compact phones, but will get used to it (the size, not the fingerprint scanner )
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No connectivity/network issues with 5G?
got it the first day it was launched. first upgrade in 3 years since my 3a.. everything seems to he fine. hot at first but after the upgrade to A13 and disabling adaptive charging and windows blur... everything is perfect...for the scanner, it got smarter by time i dunno why... artificial intelligence? i dunno...
Ace42 said:
On A13 I don't have performance or heat problems anymore. Using MVK kernels also helped a great deal.
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MVK and Android 13 together? What is that?
xda-eh said:
MVK and Android 13 together? What is that?
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They're referring to MKV custom kernel. I've noticed no difference between 12 and 13. The phone does run hot and fairly weak battery life but it's powerful, looks good, and everything else about it is fine. I wouldn't buy it unless doing a good value trade-in or getting at discounted price. Many people coming from 3a. eBay can find new for around $350.
Ace42 said:
No connectivity issues on Verizon. Temperature is an issue on the June firmware shipped with models (pre release?). On A13 I don't have performance or heat problems anymore. Using MVK kernels also helped a great deal.
I suggest disabling 5G, adaptive connectivity, mobile data always active and windows blur (a must for all android devices) under developer options.
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How do you disable 5G? Is it carrier-specific?
damian5000 said:
The phone does run hot and fairly weak battery life...
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Hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold? And can it get dangerous if it gets too hot?
rochrunner said:
How do you disable 5G? Is it carrier-specific?
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Disable adaptive connectivity
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Hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold? And can it get dangerous if it gets too hot?
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The left side gets surprisingly blazing. I'd say around 120f at times during hotspotting. But not hot enough to burn you and definitely not dangerous. I was playing with my backup ZTE budget phone yesterday and it's like an ice cube compared to 6a.
damian5000 said:
The left side gets surprisingly blazing. I'd say around 120f at times during hotspotting. But not hot enough to burn you and definitely not dangerous.
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So for all intents and purposes the phone may as well be a 4G only phone (if I don't want it to fry)?
Yeah, for whatever reason this modem gets really hot. I intend to find it why and try to improve it.
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he 5G thing I believe is more a matter of battery life. Some people have gotten better battery by staying LTE. A
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So for all intents and purposes the phone may as well be a 4G only phone (if I don't want it to fry)?
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I think more an issue of battery life. The phone is a good phone. It does get hot but doesn't overheat to the point of shutting down or warning. At least in my experience.
damian5000 said:
I think more an issue of battery life. The phone is a good phone. It does get hot but doesn't overheat to the point of shutting down or warning. At least in my experience.
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What about connectivity issues that I've seen reports of. Have you had any of that?
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What about connectivity issues that I've seen reports of. Have you had any of that?
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I've been disconnected sometimes like once a day either full disconnect from the network or just losing data connection, but that also started happening to my 3a XL just prior to swapping up, so I think it is a network/tower issue. I'm on Visible.
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No connectivity/network issues with 5G?
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Been back to 5G enabled country for a week now and no 5G issues here
I have been using 6a for about a month now. No issues so far reguarding wifi or cellular connection