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jumping from p20 pro to OP6

Just recently upgraded to p20 Pro but really not liking EMUI so was thinking of getting the OP6 128gb.
One concern is audio quality as I use Bluetooth headphones everyday, can anyone advise if the audio quality is any good.

I'm using the Sony MDR-X650BT headphones and have been happy with that. I don't profess that I'm some audiophile but it's clear, punchy with good bass and higher Max volume then my OnePlus 5 had before adjusting that with a custom Kernel and the headphones support apx not apxhd though. I'm waiting for a good Bluetooth 5.0 with apxhd without spending $400

I got the free Bose QC35ii with the p20 Pro so was disappointed they didn't support aptx but audio is still good. I'm really just not enjoying my experience with the p20 and have always wanted a OnePlus. Managed a hands on with one today and it's a nice device and I like the idea of stock-ish android.

How do you compare the camera?
I'm going crazy thinking the op6 pictures are clearer with better details?
Bluetooth on the op6 is better.
I've played around the op6 and own a p20 pro but I can't make a decision yet.
The camera is a hard one as sometimes I think the op6 takes much better photos with more details.
Where I'm from the p20p has volte and the op6 doesn't (carrier doesn't support op6)
I also dislike emui
Speakers on p20 pro is better however
The fluidity of the op6 is addictive.

virtyx said:
How do you compare the camera?
I'm going crazy thinking the op6 pictures are clearer with better details?
Bluetooth on the op6 is better.
I've played around the op6 and own a p20 pro but I can't make a decision yet.
The camera is a hard one as sometimes I think the op6 takes much better photos with more details.
I also dislike emui
Speakers on p20 pro is better however
The fluidity of the op6 is addictive.
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Never got to really test the camera on op6, however i fine the p20 camera inconsistent and sometimes over processed especially when using AI. I have a DSLR so camera is not a deal-breaker for me.
Speakers are great on p20, and android experience on op6 is far better as is the screen.
Still can't make my mind up

stewart30 said:
Never got to really test the camera on op6, however i fine the p20 camera inconsistent and sometimes over processed especially when using AI. I have a DSLR so camera is not a deal-breaker for me.
Speakers are great on p20, and android experience on op6 is far better as is the screen.
Still can't make my mind up
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Biggest deciding factor is volte
Is it worth ditching for the op6
Given that the camera can equal each other.
The p20 pro annoyingly over-softens everything.

I sold my huawei mate p10 pro to get the one plus 6 as i hated emui , i had a one plus 3t before the p10 and having gone back to the oneplus with the 6 i have no regrets, no the speaker quality is not as good but it is adequate and the camera takes excellent pictures but the os is awesome and so smooth. o2 stores have the oneplus 6 in stores why not pop in and try it out.

My Huawei P20 Pro went back for other reasons to do with unwanted branding but if anyone doesn't like Emui then Pixel.2.Launcher.modded.5.3.build.23.apk gives a pretty good impression of a Google user interface. I ended up getting a OP6. It does loads of audio codecs - AptX included. The Huawei have a software fault and you are stuck with one AAC codec..
The Launcher above works nicely on the OP6; I prefer it to the OP launcher.

I don't have a P20 Pro, but a P20. I used it for 1 week, and I was so disappointed with it, on the usability aspect.
Why do phone companies have to reinvent the wheel? Why there are duplicate apps such as calendar, calculator, etc. that Google already provides. Google apps, in my view have more features than the stock ones. True, oneplus has these duplicate apps as well, but they can be disabled. P20 doesn't let you disable Huawei made apps.
Secondly, P20's (EMUI) interface is no heavy and clunky. I am just not made for EMUI, and I would say the same Xiaomi's MIUI and other such skins... Touchwiz, LG. Hence, I returned my P20 and bought OP6. It was like returning back home (I had OP3T before).
But, back to the question on sound quality. I really like P20's audio quality via the speakers and BT headphones (Dolby), it is rich, is punchy, is clear and has descent base. Unfortunately, to my taste, OP6 has underperforming speakers, and a very average BT headphone output, even though it has APTX(HD). I miss the audio experience of P20.
I hope lineageos arrives soon for OP6; I will then install Viper4Android.
My wish is to have a fully functional lineageos/aosp for P20. But, I know it's a distant dream. Huawei will not let it happen. P20 has such an amazing hardware, but a very limited (and annoying) software experience. I don't think P20 will ever get Android P, although on papers it supports Project Treble.
The only phone that has near perfect hardware and software is Pixel, but then the asking price is sky high.

P20 Pro audio is pathetic while OP6 is much better. I use it with Sony WH-1000XM2 / LDAC and they play just fantastic with Tidal Hifi and Roon with high res files, altough those headphones play clearer over BT than on the cable.

paulv1mk2 said:
I sold my huawei mate p10 pro to get the one plus 6 as i hated emui , i had a one plus 3t before the p10 and having gone back to the oneplus with the 6 i have no regrets, no the speaker quality is not as good but it is adequate and the camera takes excellent pictures but the os is awesome and so smooth. o2 stores have the oneplus 6 in stores why not pop in and try it out.
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Thanks. Went to O2 today and messed around with it but was being pressured to buy so left.

stewart30 said:
Never got to really test the camera on op6, however i fine the p20 camera inconsistent and sometimes over processed especially when using AI. I have a DSLR so camera is not a deal-breaker for me.
Speakers are great on p20, and android experience on op6 is far better as is the screen.
Still can't make my mind up
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Depth effect sucks on op6 i guess it needs a software update

The P20 Pro does have a IR blaster which i used to have fun with in shops but overall Oneplus6 is much better. I am just confused as most sites say oneplus 6 has no mobile HDR support but people in forums say youtube HDR is working

should i upgrade?

guys m getting 23k for my nex as i bought it for 26k n used for 5 months 3k loss but m thinking to upgrade op7 is that 10k worth investing on oneplus 7? please drop ur suggestion

I would say yes, you would have a better camera (face unlock), better fingerprint sensor, better screen(90hz refresh rating), better software almost stock android, stereo speakers (Dolby Atmos). the only thing i would say is missing from the one plus 7pro is the headphone jack.
Sorry you speaking of the One Plus 7 not the Pro?

Personally I'd go for the Zenfone 6 or Redmi K20 pro. But I'm staying with my Nex because I don't see any compelling reason to change yet.

Twotems said:
Personally I'd go for the Zenfone 6 or Redmi K20 pro. But I'm staying with my Nex because I don't see any compelling reason to change yet.
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zenfone 6 has lcd panel which ibhate i sold 5z within weeks coz m spoil by amoled beauty

smisi said:
I would say yes, you would have a better camera (face unlock), better fingerprint sensor, better screen(90hz refresh rating), better software almost stock android, stereo speakers (Dolby Atmos). the only thing i would say is missing from the one plus 7pro is the headphone jack.
Sorry you speaking of the One Plus 7 not the Pro?
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i meant op7 not pro

shunil.scorpio01 said:
zenfone 6 has lcd panel which ibhate i sold 5z within weeks coz m spoil by amoled beauty
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Then get the K20.......

Speaker and Earpiece quality & volume

My last note, the 9, had very poor speaker and Earpiece quality and volume. Compared to the iPhones it's a joke really. The iPhone got twice as loud as the Note 8 or 9. Yes, I know sometimes we use ear buds and headphones...
Does anyone know what the 10 sounds like? Didn't they hide the earpiece or make it significantly smaller in this new model?
I don't see any of these initial impressions or hands-on videos mentioning anything about call quality or speaker volume or anything like that.

globalexpresspilot said:
My last note, the 9, had very poor speaker and Earpiece quality and volume. Compared to the iPhones it's a joke really. The iPhone got twice as loud as the Note 8 or 9. Yes, I know sometimes we use ear buds and headphones...
Does anyone know what the 10 sounds like? Didn't they hide the earpiece or make it significantly smaller in this new model?
I don't see any of these initial impressions or hands-on videos mentioning anything about call quality or speaker volume or anything like that.
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Saw a speaker comparison and the s10 plus is just slighty louder than the note 10 plus. And my S10 plus is WAY louder than my note 9.
Note 10 plus also louder than iphone xs max although i feel the iphone had better bass (and I am saying that as someone who hates apple lol)
i also listened to my note 9 vs note 10 plus side by side in best buy and it is far superior.

Best Buy has the Note 10 on display now?
Thanks for your insight.

globalexpresspilot said:
Best Buy has the Note 10 on display now?
Thanks for your insight.
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Yes they did as of friday last week and thats here in Canada so in the US for sure they do.

It's not on display in the US. Which store are you referring to in Canada?

There are on display here in Tampa, FL at least.

daraj said:
There are on display here in Tampa, FL at least.
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Hmm, tomorrow will check out if my BestBuy store in WA has any Note 10 devices on display

Its definitely not better then the iPhone. Base is missing. However this phone is a tank!

globalexpresspilot said:
It's not on display in the US. Which store are you referring to in Canada?
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Best buy and the Samsung store.

force70 said:
Best buy and the Samsung store.
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Just saw it at Costco. Definitely louder than the Note 9. Still tinny though.

front facing speakers?

Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.

davidmaxwaterman said:
Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.
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They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
Regards,
acervenky

acervenky said:
They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
Regards,
acervenky
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Hrm, interesting. The important thing about front-facing speakers, to me, is the reproduction of high frequencies, and I don't much care about stereo effect - in fact, I turn it off in the accessibility settings. I should probably give it a try to see how it sounds.
Thanks,
Max.

Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.

jim262 said:
Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.
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Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.

xphyle1971 said:
Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.
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While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.

jim262 said:
While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.
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True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).

xphyle1971 said:
True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).
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As long as they have at least bands 2, 4, 12 they are fully functional here in San Diego. I'm also on Tmobile.

Does it worth it? (AMOLED, ROM Development...)

Hi,
I've been saving to get a Mi 9T pro for quite some time... and of course now it isn't available at a reasonable price, so my eyes are on a Poco F2 Pro (i live in Europe right now).
My only requirements would be:
mandatory:
- headphone jack (check)
- Super AMOLED without bloody hole (who would do that??) (can you confirm it is a super amoled screen like mi 9T pro and Mi 9 lite, not just amoled (like Mi 9T) please?) (check i guess)
slightly less important:
- stereo speakers (not checked, i live w/o it i guess! cause in that price range i can't find anything, specially with the 2 first requirements)
- microSD slot (ok i'll plug it more often then...)
and last but not least:
- good community regarding development, tweaks, custom roms and so on => will this one be checked one day ? What do you think ? I see sources are out but missing a lot of parts... are people gonna get some enthusiasm on that phone at one point ? (so, yeah, if somebody could tell me the future ^^ and the next lottery numbers while you're at it...)
So, well, maybe I'm too demanding, what do you guys think, and is there a way to be happy with stock MIUI (debloating?) to begin with ?
Sorry if all of that was already address, I take my chances asking my concern to the community before I buy anything as it is a big expense for me.
THANKS A LOT for your time and your help
Cheers !

I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)

Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice

XpLoDWilD said:
Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
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What? No, the f2 has better screen. Well as long as you don't care about Refresh rate. But touch sampling is better 120 Vs 180 on the f2
Camera is better on the f2 even with ois

LaMarMôt said:
How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
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I can not say for Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro as I have the Zoom edition (different hardware) but the Zoom has slightly brighter screen than K20 Pro. I had for the short time Oneplus 7T pro. it had better color accuracy and 90 Hz
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reliot said:
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
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why? I think poco f2pro is a good cheap and balance phone.

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.

Suraj Pandey said:
It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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13th August

dex2grigg said:
13th August
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!

Amazing phone, but MIUI with zero custom rom development is a no-go for me.

I have the poco f2 pro and owned 2 mi9t pro before as well. The phone is not bad but not great. Have it over a month now, miui 12 was a nice improvement but I see some bugs since the update. The screen sometimes go dark and take a good few seconds to recover. Happened when using chrome or various other apps. I had to even reboot at one point because it didn't recover. I know a wipe could resolve the issue just too lazy to do it and I only see the above bug a few times.
Comparing to the mi9t pro it has much nicer features such as the harptic feedback is nicer. Camera and touch response is also better, not even mention the longer battery life. However due to the size and weight I did find the mi9t pro much more usable. I have small hand and for me does require 2 hands to operate cause I cannot reach much with one hand.
Custom rom does exist check xiaomi.eu but its very limited compare how the mi9t pro\k20 pro was. I'm not planning to mess around with roms just wanted a device which works, this doesn't really bothers me.
Is it worth it? Hmm the market is fludded with good devices, if you want a full screen display there isn't much option available, the cut out or teardrop style is more common then anything else. The answer is subjective but owning the device I may look around and chose a different one.

Since this phone will 100% sure get Android 11 , I think most logical way forward (from dev perspective) is wait for that release before doing any custom ROM. Doing it now with current release base (its buggy too) is probably waste of time.
This is not the first phone with the same situation happened before.

I own both mi9t pro 128gb and k30 pro 256gb (zoom edition) and I can certainly says it surely an upgrade especially when you do gaming often.
Im not sure about everybody else, but in my experience, mi9t pro do stutter in games from time to time which I suspect comes from thermal throttling. On the other hand, my k30 pro did not have such issue at all. Mind you, it was both on miui 12 latest stable rom.
Oh yes, plus the added benefit of getting UFS 3.1, LPDDR5, bigger battery, IR blaster, faster charging, bigger battery, latest chipset, 5G (future-proofing), and most importantly for me, the OIS on both telephoto and main camera lens enable me to take long exposure and night shot without those blurry image. 3x telephoto lens not just better in zooming but also double as macro lens with AF! I can zoom up to 30x and have a decent moon-shot, albeit not so great but still good enough. All in all, its well worth to be considered as an upgrade.
Before i forgot, yes the screen is definitely super amoled, which comes with good factory-calibration on "Standard" or "Original" mode. P3 and sRGB mode as preset are great option to have which mi9t pro really missing.

LordWurstbrot said:
Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
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Yup. Poco f2 pro won't launch in India. They'll launch it as K30 Pro. It is because of this Covid situation that launch has been delayed. Also Xiaomi India is trying to clear their existing stocks of K20 pro before launching K30 Pro

I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?

wait for pixel 5 4a with 765 processor is uber trash

androideas said:
I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
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Now POCO F2 Pro is about 300,00€ in Italy. That is a so low price for these specs (Snapdragon 865), if there are two big lack:
1. no slot card at all and
2. no development due to the fact that the source code tree is partially hidden in order to block the development.
It seems like there's a collusion between the phone house to give a price to the possibility of development.
Actually google pixel it costs much more than the value of the money suggests for its specs.
Like "future development of the phone" must be paid by the costumers. That is my paranoia. :confuso: