3rd party cables - Google Pixel 4 XL Accessories

Anyone having problems with third party cables? Some cables won't charge the pixel 4 and when using on other smart phone, it works perfectly fine. Not sure if it's a restriction that google put in place but whatever the reason the cables are working fine with other manufacturers.

hero4eva said:
Anyone having problems with third party cables? Some cables won't charge the pixel 4 and when using on other smart phone, it works perfectly fine. Not sure if it's a restriction that google put in place but whatever the reason the cables are working fine with other manufacturers.
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I'm using Anker cables, and a generic cable to connect to both my work and home computers. I have no issues with charging, and copying files back and forth.

mimart7 said:
I'm using Anker cables, and a generic cable to connect to both my work and home computers. I have no issues with charging, and copying files back and forth.
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I'm using cables from Baseus, Ugreen, Usam, Floveme and other Chinese brand. Some of those happens to work and some don't, not sure why. Just tried all those cable with the pixel 3 and they all work fine.

I only have Anker "red" cables and all are working from both Esemi and Anker chargers in the home and car.

CyberpodS2 said:
I only have Anker "red" cables and all are working from both Esemi and Anker chargers in the home and car.
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Do all the anker cables fast charge it?

Cables have to be Power Delivery (PD) compatible and not Quick Charge (Qualcomm).
It's not always clear what the standards are for cables and Anker sell both types. I always buy Anker and had to go through this recently.
These are the ones I choose Anker Powerline + C to C https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had similar spec in the past and these are reliable and tough cables!

m+a+r+k said:
Cables have to be Power Delivery (PD) compatible and not Quick Charge (Qualcomm).
It's not always clear what the standards are for cables and Anker sell both types. I always buy Anker and had to go through this recently.
These are the ones I choose Anker Powerline + C to C https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had similar spec in the past and these are reliable and tough cables!
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I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like this one, so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you

farrokh19 said:
I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like [https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/powercore--13400/A1315011]this one[/URL], so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you
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It'll probably be 5v/2.4a speed so 12w. I do this for overnight charging.
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farrokh19 said:
I actually need a usb type-a to type-c cable to be used along with a powerbank like [https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/powercore--13400/A1315011]this one[/URL], so this powerline+ cable should be fine. Also, this configuration is not going to fast charge my pixel because of the absence of PD protocol, right? Which speed do you think I could achieve? Thank you
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Cable doesn't look PD, note where it says in product description "Compatible Devices (limited charging speeds)" it includes Google products all of whom are PD.
Your line for Powerbank doesn't go anywhere useful but again Anker are very bad at describing their products tech specs accurately.
So 5W charging, slow but OK for overnight charging, not great if you're on the go.

EeZeEpEe said:
It'll probably be 5v/2.4a speed so 12w. I do this for overnight charging.
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m+a+r+k said:
Cable doesn't look PD, note where it says in product description "Compatible Devices (limited charging speeds)" it includes Google products all of whom are PD.
Your line for Powerbank doesn't go anywhere useful but again Anker are very bad at describing their products tech specs accurately.
So 5W charging, slow but OK for overnight charging, not great if you're on the go.
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I hope you meant 5V, as the user above said. 12W are not that bad. By looking at the output of the original pixel 4 XL wall charger,it is stated as 3A at 5V or 2A at 9V. I suppose the last one is related to the PD protocol which increases the voltage to 9V in order to reach 18W (not sure here). If all I said is true, it should be able to receive 2.4A at 5V.
Could someone please confirm or confute that?

Just a quick update. I'm currently trying charging my pixel with the above-mentioned anker powercore and a usb-a to usb-c cable bought at a dollar store (working at up to 3A) and the current detected by the Ampere app is hovering around 1.5 A. Doing the math, it is just 7.5 w so rather disappointing. The system predicts a charging time of about 2h going from 15% to 100%.

farrokh19 said:
Just a quick update. I'm currently trying charging my pixel with the above-mentioned anker powercore and a usb-a to usb-c cable bought at a dollar store (working at up to 3A) and the current detected by the Ampere app is hovering around 1.5 A. Doing the math, it is just 7.5 w so rather disappointing. The system predicts a charging time of about 2h going from 15% to 100%.
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You should do actual charging times for measurement. Even if Ampere was accurate (It's not as accurate as something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1St6DbZRKJP9W) the 7.5w wouldn't be consistent from 0-100%. For example, the stock charger consistently does 5-80% in 60 minutes. See how fast/slow it is compared to that.
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EeZeEpEe said:
You should do actual charging times for measurement. Even if Ampere was accurate (It's not as accurate as something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_1St6DbZRKJP9W) the 7.5w wouldn't be consistent from 0-100%. For example, the stock charger consistently does 5-80% in 60 minutes. See how fast/slow it is compared to that.
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Next time I'll check the charging time. Anyway it went from 15% to 99% in about 2h and 15min.

farrokh19 said:
Next time I'll check the charging time. Anyway it went from 15% to 99% in about 2h and 15min.
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Sounds about the same as my 5v/2.4a wall charger.
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Related

question about charger

Hi guys,
I want to buy a extra charger for my 6P at work. I am wondering what specs should I be looking for for the quick charging capability? The google store has one that is 15W and another one that is higher. I don't know which one to choose, also, I want to see if I can buy any 3rd party one from Amazon that can give me quick charging.
Thanks!
I would stick with the one sold by Google until 3rd parties make one similarly specced. 5v / 3a / 15ww, USB type C plug.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
sirxdroid said:
I think everyone has the same questions regarding chargers and cables. It's probably best to try and get by with what's in the box for a bit, I'm sure affordable choices will soon be available.
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There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
Pilz said:
There are 2 options now from Google, but I wouldn't call them cheap. I bought the $40 dual port charger for my bag because it seems nice, and if it sucks I can easily send it back.
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On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
htowngator said:
On one review video it had "faster charging" at the bottom of the screen when the native usb-c was being used.
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Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
Pilz said:
Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
htowngator said:
I've always agreed with you on that. I'm wondering if people will see the same result w/o using the supplied usb-c charger.
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Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
Pilz said:
Unless it supports 3A at 5V then probably not. any QC 2.0 charger will only output 2.0A at most for 5V so that's not fast charging.
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Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
htowngator said:
Sure, I'm just wondering what will happen with the phone as well as total charge time differential.
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At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
Pilz said:
At least 33% longer just look at the OP2 it takes 3hrs
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Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...s-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
htowngator said:
Huh.... http://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-6p/596702-i-ve-got-nexus-6p-here-lets-get-some-questions-going-3.html#post4759473
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
Won't it work with any Qualcomm QC 2.0 power adapter (outputting 5, 9 and 12V) and with a suitable USB-C lead? I am hoping that will be the case anyway, as I've got two QC 2.0 adapters for home and 1 car charger adapter. Should keep me covered, and all I'll need to do is buy new USB-C cables.
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I don't think he understood the question? I would wait for a clearer answer
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He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
htowngator said:
He answered it below... That was with a QC2.0 charger giving him "2A" input according to Android OS.
Basically the phone shows "faster charging" when anything higher amperage gets used, not just native usb-c. The speed it charges is obviously not the same, but at least it utilizes a higher rate.
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I didn't see the 2A part just the fast charging. That's better than nothing but still not technically fast charging
New article that helps answer the question...somewhat:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
Pilz said:
Well yeah that's to be expected because Type-C supports fast charging.
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Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
dwswager said:
Assuming 15W is considered Fast Charging, then Type C has nothing to do with it. Current QC 2.0 chargers pump 18W via Type A to Micro B cables.
It is the limited design of the 6P that requires a Type C end to end solution (or captive charger) to permit fast charging. A little more thoughtful design choices would have allowed 18W via a Type A to Type C cable in the same way as the QC chargers operate by over charging a stupid cable or by respecting USB Power Delivery at 12V/1.5A in a smart cable solution.
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It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
Pilz said:
It can't go over 5V we have been over this before... So yes the Type-C doesn't affect the charging but the pin layout and chip only supports 5V from what has been seen so far.
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I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
dwswager said:
I concur, but it is important to dispel the marketing nonsense that Type C some how represents a "Fast Charging" solution. It is a connector and would have supported much better "Fast Charging" solutions than a steady state 5V solution. It will perform very well from 0% charge, but will lag higher voltage solutions at the other end of the charging cycle.
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Sorry, this is not true. The higher voltage of the power delivery has no effect on charging speed given the same total power. This is especially true at the top end of the battery SOC where the charge rate is limited by the battery chemistry.

USB Type-C Wall Charger?

I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
I just went to Amazon and searched for "type C wall charger" and saw some. Here's the first item in the search.
USB Charger, GMYLE 11W USB Dual Ports Type C & A Power Adapter AC Wall Charger for New Macbook, Nokia N1, Chromebook Pixel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01193T77I/
meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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I'm getting what seems to be poor performance from the stock 6p charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234521
meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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Have you tried Anker on Amazon?
cxm0429 said:
Have you tried Anker on Amazon?
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I don't believe they have any options at this time
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
plokm said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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akellar said:
In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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lol
plokm said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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akellar said:
In stock, estimated delivery Dec 1-17th
Are they walking it to me?
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Pic shows Type A connector on the charger. I'd stay away from it.
Elnrik said:
Pic shows Type A connector on the charger. I'd stay away from it.
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Why? It is unclear if the original poster desired a captive Type C, Type C to Type C, or Type A to Type C charger. All 3 would work.
The problem with this charger is that 18W is for Quick Charge which is 9V/2A or 12V/1.5A. This charger most likely won't ever output more than 2.4A at 5V. Not that that is hateful, just not 3A.
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meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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Do you specifically want a charger with a Type C port in it? Or would a 5V/3A Type A to Type C or Captive Type C charger be OK?
I think you are going to find that we are really early in the Type C adoption and there just aren't many small/handheld devices using Type C yet, so there aren't many accessories. The other is issue is 5V/3A is unlikely to be exceptionally prevalent even when Type C ramps up, but I could be wrong. I just think most vendors will use some form of voltage hopping quick charging technology, especially since QC 3.0 is built into the Qualcom SOCs where the Snapdragon 810 and below that use QC 2.0 require an additional chip. Not sure what the Lumia 950XL or Sony X5 (?) is using.
RED ZMAN said:
I just went to Amazon and searched for "type C wall charger" and saw some. Here's the first item in the search.
USB Charger, GMYLE 11W USB Dual Ports Type C & A Power Adapter AC Wall Charger for New Macbook, Nokia N1, Chromebook Pixel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01193T77I/
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZOFS17K/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
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BZZZT. Try again, neither of those chargers are the right setup. The first one will only do 2.1A not 3A. The second does not have a Type C port it has a Type A and comes with a Type A>C cable which means you'll get about 1.5A maximum from it on a 5X or 6P.
To get 3 amp charging you need two things. A. The charger port MUST be a Type-C port. B. The charger must be rated for [email protected]
Google is best answer... for now.
None of the currently available chargers on the market can provide the 3W and intelligence needed to quick charge usb type c I've found so far. My solution, though not the cheapest, was to order the two port 22.5W google usb type c charger. It came quickly and it works great I can confirm. If you read the spec on type c charging it not only can do 3A @ 5V but also other amounts at different voltages I think... even 12V in some cases. I'm not sure if the 6P will use all of the options but USB type C is whole new animal when it comes to charging fast.
sluflyer06 said:
BZZZT. Try again, neither of those chargers are the right setup. The first one will only do 2.1A not 3A. The second does not have a Type C port it has a Type A and comes with a Type A>C cable which means you'll get about 1.5A maximum from it on a 5X or 6P.
To get 3 amp charging you need two things. A. The charger port MUST be a Type-C port. B. The charger must be rated for [email protected]
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BZZZTZTTT! Try again. Neither the title of the thread or the OP ask for a 3A wall charger, just a type C charger. I saw the one I posted was 2.1A, but he didn't ask for a 3A one, just type C.
See again the OP...
meleelord said:
I have been looking everywhere, but cannot find a type-c wall charger. I really want to get another 2, one for work, and one for another room in my house. Has anyone found one somewhere else other than the Google store?
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:highfive:
notfaded1 said:
None of the currently available chargers on the market can provide the 3W and intelligence needed to quick charge usb type c I've found so far. My solution, though not the cheapest, was to order the two port 22.5W google usb type c charger. It came quickly and it works great I can confirm. If you read the spec on type c charging it not only can do 3A @ 5V but also other amounts at different voltages I think... even 12V in some cases. I'm not sure if the 6P will use all of the options but USB type C is whole new animal when it comes to charging fast.
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Agreed, that's the one I bought and received a few weeks ago.
Thanks for the feedback guys! I'm looking for Type-C to Type-C at 3amp/5v, which I believe is the fastest?
I have heard Anker will be releasing their Type-C range within the next week on Amazon, so hopefully soon we should have some more accessories soon!
At the moment I have resorted to using my RAVPower portable charger with Type-C connection for when I don't have my mains charger on me. Although this is quite a nuisance...
Yeah, I haven't seen any other 5V 3A Type C ones, but honestly I haven't looked much. I picked up the dual 22W one from google for work, figured it came with a cable long enough for my use at my desk I'd just go that route for now. Hopefully we do start getting more soon, as I need a folding one for travel. My current one is Type A, and I have a few A to C cables at the house so at least I have something I can charge with.
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Yeah, I haven't seen any other 5V 3A Type C ones, but honestly I haven't looked much. I picked up the dual 22W one from google for work, figured it came with a cable long enough for my use at my desk I'd just go that route for now. Hopefully we do start getting more soon, as I need a folding one for travel. My current one is Type A, and I have a few A to C cables at the house so at least I have something I can charge with.
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When i tested my Nexus 5p with choetech type c charger, 1.5 hours from 0 to 100%, almost same as 3 amps LG C-C charger, the charging speed dance from 2.6 amps to 0.5 amps regularly before 30%, then stable at about 1.8 amps, it's not a fast charging phone according to my test, would be glad to know if anyone could share the charging experience with Nexus 6p.
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When i tested my Nexus 5p with choetech type c charger, 1.5 hours from 0 to 100%, almost same as 3 amps LG C-C charger, the charging speed dance from 2.6 amps to 0.5 amps regularly before 30%, then stable at about 1.8 amps, it's not a fast charging phone according to my test, would be glad to know if anyone could share the charging experience with Nexus 6p.
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My experience with the N6p on the stock charger is that while it will briefly bounce up to 2.8, it doesn't ramp up smoothly. It pretty much does a roller coaster like you described almost the whole time probably averaging around 1 to 1.5 amps. I also tried with my anker 2.4 amp and it didn't seem to be that much less. Very disappointing actually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3237848
I used a 5V/3A charger with captive microusb (for raspberrypi). With a micro to c adapter, it charged my 6P at ~2.7A (less than 40% battery). The charger and adapter were less than $15 total.
I've also used a multi-port charger with a quality A-C cable and get ~2.4A charging.
I've got the Cheeotech one somewhere. I was one of the few they picked last year to test it out with the N6. That Amazon page is just their QC2.0 charger with a USB C to A cable. I will try to find mine and see how it charges.
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My experience with the N6p on the stock charger is that while it will briefly bounce up to 2.8, it doesn't ramp up smoothly. It pretty much does a roller coaster like you described almost the whole time probably averaging around 1 to 1.5 amps. I also tried with my anker 2.4 amp and it didn't seem to be that much less. Very disappointing actually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3237848
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The battery and temperature control is the limitation of the charging speed, google could use a 5v 2a charger to get this job done, 5v 3a is actually not quicker for Nexus 5p, google is making jokes with us.

[Review 11/22] Ravpower 20100mah Type-C/QC2.0 External Battery Pack

Ravpower 20100mah Type-C & QC 2.0 Battery Pack
Overview: The Ravpower battery pack is supposedly the first USB Type-C battery pack out there. It charges the 6P using the USB Type-C standard of 5V/3A which is great because it’s the first true Type-C charger and battery out there not made by Google from what I have seen. I will compare the battery to the other ones I own which are just the regular QC2.0 standard and made by Aukey.
Ports/Charging:
The Ravpower features 4 total ports, now before you get carried away with the infinite possibilities of this I will first talk about what they offer.
Ports Comparison
Input Charging Ports:
There are 2 ports that can be used to charge the battery. The first is the conventional Micro-USB port. This port will allow you to have the battery with up to 24W, and is a good backup if you don’t want to charge it via USB Type-C. The next way the battery can be charged is via USB Type-C at 5V/3A (15W) which is slower than using a QC2.0 24W+ charger. I know there aren’t many 24W capable QC2.0 chargers but I have a 30W one made by Power Partners and it charges the battery a lot faster than my Type-C cable does.
Here is breakdown of the voltages/rates the battery can be charged at:
Output Charging Ports:
Type-C
The battery can charge up to 3 devices at once with its 3 output charging ports. The first and most relevant of these would be the USB Type-C port. It will charge the Nexus 6P/5X rapidly just as the wall charger would. I’ve had the battery for about 3 days now and it has been great! The USB Type-C port is reversible in terms of charging for this battery pack. The port can take 5V/3A and output the same 5V/3A to a phone so it cuts down on how many ports the battery needs.
USB Type-A QC2.0
This port features Qualcomm’s quick charge 2.0 standard and will quick charge any compatible devices at one of 3 voltages. The port can also charge the Nexus 6P/5X using a in spec Type-A to Type-C cable as you might expect. I have the iOrange cable and it will give me 1.5A as it should by the USB standard. I like the availability of a Type-A port because I can charge other devices from it while on the go.
USB Type-A iSmart Port
This is your standard 5V 2.4A USB Type-A port. There is nothing special about it in my opinion and they could have left this one out since the QC2.0 port also supports 5V/2.4A. It’s still there if you wanted to use it so I will leave it at that.
Here is a table of the output voltage and rates:
Battery I/O Rating Pictures
Design/Build Quality:
The design of the battery is nothing special, it’s a simple rectangle just like it should be. There is no reason to over design the appearance of an external battery as long as it gets the job done. I don’t mean this in a bad way at all because I like the simple design of it. There are 4 blue LED dots that indicate the battery level and they aren’t overly bright if you use it at night. There is a small button under the LED lights to turn the battery pack on or see its current battery level.
Let me get this out of the way: the battery is HUGE and might as well be a brick making up some old building in Philadelphia. With that being said the battery is solid but not too heavy overall. The battery is made with a plastic construction, but Ravpower does offer a 12 month warranty on it. I didn’t look to see what it covered, but I assume it should cover the standard defects but likely not physical damage. According to Ravpower these are the dimensions of the battery pack:
Here is a comparison between the 3 battery packs I currently have. (Aukey 10000mah Silver, Aukey 12000mah Black, Ravpower 20100mah Black)
Status Lights for each battery pack
What’s in the Box:
The battery comes with a mesh pouch to put it in while you are traveling about, but it has no extra pockets for anything else. There are also 2 micro USB cables included with the battery that can be used to charge the battery or a compatible phone. The flat style cables are nice and should be tangle free. I used one to charge my Bose QC20 (2015) headphones and didn’t have any issues. I would test them on another device, but I no longer have micro USB phones/tablets.
Dimensions
Overall 9.8/10
I’m enjoying the battery pack a lot and I think it’s worth the price right now. $47.99 isn’t bad for a 20100mah battery considering I have 2 Aukey ones (12500mah, 10400mah QC2.0 battery packs). The battery is big, but it has more than enough capacity to keep your phone/tablet alive for a few days at a minimum.
Here is a table comparing the Ravpower to the Google 22.5W Dual port Type C charger with different cables, I also tested my in spec Type A-C Cable using a 5V/4A charger
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So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?
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So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?
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You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk
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You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk
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Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.
dammit pilz.....
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fury683 said:
Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.
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Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-A to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
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dammit pilz.....
ordered...
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Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.
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Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-C to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.
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That was a typo, right?
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That was a typo, right?
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No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=
I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it
Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?
Cares said:
Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?
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I haven't tried but it might work. I know most batteries support I/O at the same time.
I will add the rest of the pictures tomorrow. Its been a very busy day so I haven't had a chance to take the other pictures
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I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it
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I've used it to charge my phone for the past 3 days just to test it. If has 2 dots left (~50% or less) which is good. The battery may but be metal or asthetically great but it gets the job done
OP updated with more pictures, tables, etc.
Pilz said:
No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=
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No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?
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No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?
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Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
Edit: I corrected that typo from earlier thanks for clarifying that for me
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Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
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No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...
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No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...
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I'm glad you let me know so I could fix it. Now I'll have to see how the battery holds up on my trip
Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!
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Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!
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I've been enjoying mine lately plus its capacity/size arent bad for what it is. I'll see how TSA likes it in my carry on because they are always stupid

[Review] Choetech USB-C PD Charger, A-C /C-C Cables and C-A adapter

Disclaimer: I was sent these items in exchange for my fair and unbiased review
All pictures were taken with my Google Pixel XL, at night with less than perfect lighting for fun
Choetech 29W USB-C Power Delivery (PD) Fast Charger
Good decided to change their charging spec again this year in a good way. The Pixel/Pixel XL now properly support USB PD over both 5V and now 9V as you can see by the included charger with both phones. Last year’s Nexus 5X/6P only supported 5V/3A i.e. 15W, but this year Google bumped it up to 18W which in theory will give you more efficient charging at a faster rate due to the reduction of heat at higher voltages.
Choetech made a USB-C PD charger that supports a broad range of USB-C compatible devices, none of which I own aside from the Pixel XL since the Nexus 6P seems to be picky about what fast charges it and what doesn’t.
In the box:
USB C-C 1[m] cable
29W USB PD Charger
Documentation
The charger has more of a dual tone/texture with a smoother plastic on the bottom rim, and a textured one everywhere else. One thing that is hard to miss is the physical size of this charger; it dwarfs Google’s stock one, and even some other multiport chargers. This could be due to the tech required for a 29W charger, although I’m not exactly sure why it’s so large with only a single USB-C Port.
On the front you will of course find the USB-C port, and above it a subtle blue charging LED. As we turn to the back there is a handy fold away 2-prong wall plug that should be convenient if you travel a lot.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a way to really test the voltages like I did for previous phones because the USB-C PD spec makes it difficult. I know there is a way to check the voltages via a USB-PD power sniffer, yet I wasn’t about to spend ~$300+ on something that I wouldn’t use that often.
Here is the rated charging output:
5V/3A
9V/2A
14.5V/2A
Overall this charger works as it should, and despite its large size it would still be great for travel/bringing to work due to the folding plug in the back.
Choetech USB A-C Braided Cable 3-Pack
Last year we had to deal with non-compliant USB A-C cables everywhere in addition to a wider adoption of the USB-C spec for phones. Now, the majority of companies are on board, and meeting the USB spec thanks to Benson Leung.
I purchased a figurative ton of cables last year in an attempt to replace my then irrelevant Micro USB cables. I spent a good amount of money and time finding quality cables which at the time were very expensive. Choetech sent me a 3 pack of braided USB A-C cables that are nearly identical in quality to the i-Orange ones I paid $12-18 for each last year, yet now you can get a 3 pack for the price of just one cable.
Braided cables looks better, are generally more durable/expensive than your traditional USB-C cable. The ones I was sent feature a metal housing that feels solid, and looks great. I tested all 3 cables with a multimeter to ensure they were allowing the proper current to be pulled i.e. they have a 56K ohm-m resistor which is what Benson Leung checks for.
Choetech USB-C (2.0) Cable 2 Pack
If you want to rapidly charge (fast charge/quick charge) your Pixel/Pixel XL, then you need to use a USB C-C cable. This 2-pack contains both a 2[m], and 1[m] USB C-C cable that both allow your Pixel to quick charge on both the stock charger, and 29W one that Choetech also offers. I verified that rapid charging shows up on my phone no matter which cable I use (Choetech, or OEM Google) as they should. The only downside I can find is these only support USB 2.0 data transfer speeds not 3.0 which is fine because most people don’t have a USB-C port on their laptop/PC. These cables aren’t braided like the USB A-C ones, but they still feel nice. I’ve actually owned a number of these dating back to the early days of my Nexus 6P, and they have held up well over time. None of my cables have frayed, broken, or otherwise had issues over the past year. These cables are premium in the sense that they will last a long time despite not looking as nice as some other offerings. I keep one of these and a variety of cables, chargers, and adapters with me in my work bag just in case I might need one during the day, or when I’m out in the field.
Choetech USB C-A Adapter
USB C-A adapters aren’t the most common things you might need, yet they’re still very useful if you need to plug a flash drive into your phone, or another peripheral.
Choetech sells a small 3-Pack of these adapters which come in gold, blue, and black. Personally I prefer a more subtle color like black, although having a choice between colors can be refreshing. Each adapter is made in such a way that it should work with most cases. I was able to use it on my Nexus 6P with a Spigen Rugged Armor case, but it wouldn’t fit in my Pixel XL’s Speck Presidio (YMMV).
Both of my phones were able to instantly recognize any flash drive I plugged into them via these adapters unlike some of the earlier ones (I own one that’s very picky) that were very inconsistent. I then decided to test one of these USB C-A adapters on my desktop since my motherboard has a USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C port. I was able to plug my flash drive into the adapter, and use it without any problems (see pictures below).
Overall these adapters are more of a convenience than a necessity for most people, but it’s always good to be prepared. If you do get one, Choetech makes a strong case with their nice metal compact package.
Here is the adapter with my Nexus 6P (I used my Pixel XL to take all of the pictures in this OP at night with less than ideal lighting)
I have a USB-C port on my motherboard, so I decided to test the adapter (shown below for reference)
Congrats on the free swag, but terrible review. People on xda @ google pixel want to know whether it can safely fast charge their phones. For instance see Bensen review .
I've been using the Motorola Turbo Charger and it charges the Pixel far faster than the included Pixel charger.
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neyenlives said:
I've been using the Motorola Turbo Charger and it charges the Pixel far faster than the included Pixel charger.
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I find that hard to believe for a variety of reasons. First you're using an A-C cable which limits you to 1.5A charging i.e. 7.5WSecondly the included pixel charged will outputs 18W in phases so it will push 9V/2Aor 5V/3A depending in what the phone is requesting from it via PD.
I have a Motorola Turbo charger so I can easily prove my point with really data if need be.
neyenlives said:
I've been using the Motorola Turbo Charger and it charges the Pixel far faster than the included Pixel charger.
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I doubt this as well. Unless you have real data, I wouldn't be making these claims. Simply seeing "charging rapidly" is NOT indicative of ANYTHING. I have gotten this message to occur falsely before with chargers.
It shows "rapidly charging"
Nitemare3219 said:
I doubt this as well. Unless you have real data, I wouldn't be making these claims. Simply seeing "charging rapidly" is NOT indicative of ANYTHING. I have gotten this message to occur falsely before with chargers.
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I got this 29W PD charger and charged my Pixel XL rapidly. I hope I can get a USB C amperemeter to get some real data.
Any recommendations on a car charger that will fast charge the pixel as well as the 6p
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biggiestuff said:
Any recommendations on a car charger that will fast charge the pixel as well as the 6p
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Just got THIS and it works wonderfully.
Also bought the 1 usb-c + 2 usb a version of the Choetech charger above (kobo, watch, phone) and it, too, works perfectly.
manxam said:
Just got THIS and it works wonderfully.
Also bought the 1 usb-c + 2 usb a version of the Choetech charger above (kobo, watch, phone) and it, too, works perfectly.
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Hmm that looks exactly like the spigen one. I wonder if they are from the same manufacturers. Thanks for the suggestion.
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SNH48 said:
I got this 29W PD charger and charged my Pixel XL rapidly. I hope I can get a USB C amperemeter to get some real data.
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Get a USB Doctor or USB Ampere Sleeve, they are kinda cheap and work well. Let us know how well it works and if you can compare it to the stock one would be awesome. The Review doesn't say much about how well it works..
Edit; they only cost ~$5 and work great, the oled gives the best readout
neyenlives said:
I've been using the Motorola Turbo Charger and it charges the Pixel far faster than the included Pixel charger.
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Turbo 15, 25 or 30? Do you know if the others work and charge any quicker?
clockcycle said:
Turbo 15, 25 or 30? Do you know if the others work and charge any quicker?
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Nope but my wife said my a Turbo Charger started making a whistling noise last night while charging my Note 7 so.... lol... I'll get a new charger with my S7 Edge
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neyenlives said:
Nope but my wife said my a Turbo Charger started making a whistling noise last night while charging my Note 7 so.... lol... I'll get a new charger with my S7 Edge
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hah lol you live dangerously :good::laugh:
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Nope but my wife said my a Turbo Charger started making a whistling noise last night while charging my Note 7 so.... lol... I'll get a new charger with my S7 Edge
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I just ordered a Turbo 30 off Verizon site, it's 50% off, it's USB C and says it is Power Delivery compliant. For only $20, it's worth a try.

Extra Chargers?

Has anyone found any cheap chargers that can charge this phone like the Essential charger does (really fast)? I have bought two different chargers and neither of them can really even charge the phone. The lock screen says it's charging slowly, and the battery meter acts like it's charging, but it doesn't actually charge. The chargers were both Quick Charge 3.0 chargers too. None of my old phone chargers with a type-c adapter will charge the phone either.
jay_em113 said:
Has anyone found any cheap chargers that can charge this phone like the Essential charger does (really fast)? I have bought two different chargers and neither of them can really even charge the phone. The lock screen says it's charging slowly, and the battery meter acts like it's charging, but it doesn't actually charge. The chargers were both Quick Charge 3.0 chargers too. None of my old phone chargers with a type-c adapter will charge the phone either.
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Have you tried different cables?
Every charger I own will charge this phone. My Samsung, pixel, Motorola, etc usb type-c chargers will all work.
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The phone requires a USB PD (Power Delivery) charger for rapid charging. It must have [email protected] and [email protected]
It doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge.
I ordered this one and it rapid charges. It supports 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 15V/ 3A, 20V/2.25A
https://www.amazon.com/iClever-Delivery-Nintendo-Notebook-Compatible/dp/B07194RXTS/
jay_em113 said:
Has anyone found any cheap chargers that can charge this phone like the Essential charger does (really fast)? I have bought two different chargers and neither of them can really even charge the phone. The lock screen says it's charging slowly, and the battery meter acts like it's charging, but it doesn't actually charge. The chargers were both Quick Charge 3.0 chargers too. None of my old phone chargers with a type-c adapter will charge the phone either.
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My MacBook pro adapter
Tikerz said:
The phone requires a USB PD (Power Delivery) charger for rapid charging. It must have [email protected] and [email protected]
It doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge.
I ordered this one and it rapid charges. It supports 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 15V/ 3A, 20V/2.25A
https://www.amazon.com/iClever-Delivery-Nintendo-Notebook-Compatible/dp/B07194RXTS/
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Thanks! Now, what about if I wanted it to just charge normally (not rapidly or slowly) for if if I wanted to leave it charging overnight? Don't think I need to spend the extra money on rapid chargers for that scenario...
jay_em113 said:
Thanks! Now, what about if I wanted it to just charge normally (not rapidly or slowly) for if if I wanted to leave it charging overnight? Don't think I need to spend the extra money on rapid chargers for that scenario...
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No idea. Honestly, I don't know of anyone who consciously needs to control the speed of their charge. I avoid charging overnight by rapid charging during the day at work.
does it really need PD? they are kind of expensive and there are chargers out there with 5V, 6V, 9V, 12V @ 3A
e.g.:
https://www.amazon.de/CSL-Schnellla...id=1510146615&sr=1-4&keywords=usb+3a+netzteil
Tikerz said:
The phone requires a USB PD (Power Delivery) charger for rapid charging. It must have [email protected] and [email protected]
It doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge.
I ordered this one and it rapid charges. It supports 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 15V/ 3A, 20V/2.25A
https://www.amazon.com/iClever-Delivery-Nintendo-Notebook-Compatible/dp/B07194RXTS/
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Actually, It *does* support QC 3.0 and USB PD.
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Actually, It *does* support QC 3.0 and USB PD.
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Essential confirmed on their subreddit that it does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge. It supports USB PD.
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Tikerz said:
Essential confirmed on their subreddit that it does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge. It supports USB PD.
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Then why does the phone indicate it's rapidly charging when plugged into a QC 3.0 charger then?
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Then why does the phone indicate it's rapidly charging when plugged into a QC 3.0 charger then?
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I'm not sure how Android is programmed to display "Rapidly Charging", but I'm sure it's not by charging standard. Probably based on supplied power, but it definitely doesn't charge as fast as the stock charger. I noticed this with my QC chargers. It will say rapidly charging for a couple minutes and then just not charge at all or say charging slowly. Frustrating as hell so I bought an extra USB PD charger.
My Samsung chargers all work, and charge the phone to 100%. They just say charging, not quick charging, but whatever... The % goes up.
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Then why does the phone indicate it's rapidly charging when plugged into a QC 3.0 charger then?
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Try using the Ampere app on the Play store. It will show you what amounts of current etc is being used to charge the phone..
USB C Charger,CRDC Quick Charge 3.0 5V/3A 27W Type C Charger for iPhone,Xiaomi,Nexus 6P Nexus 5X,Nintendo Switch,Google Pixel XL
http://s.aliexpress.com/IZBBVbE3
(from AliExpress Android)
I ordered this. Won't be here for awhile though as it's coming from China. I brought the essential because it was cheap, might as well stick to the theme.
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Then why does the phone indicate it's rapidly charging when plugged into a QC 3.0 charger then?
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Yeah...it doesn't. I'm such a tool I assumed it did and bought two Ankar QC3 wall chargers and a Tronsmart QC3 car charger. None of them are able to charge the phone at all, says that it's charging slowly but doesn't seem as though it's charging at all.
bavarianblessed said:
Yeah...it doesn't. I'm such a tool I assumed it did and bought two Ankar QC3 wall chargers and a Tronsmart QC3 car charger. None of them are able to charge the phone at all, says that it's charging slowly but doesn't seem as though it's charging at all.
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Phone needs a charger with USB-C Power Delivery and not QC. Anker has at least one model and Incipio has one as well. There are many others on Amazon.. The cool thing about those is that they also change my XPS-13. Only carry one charger when I travel.
I've got a few QC 2/3 chargers and a few USB-C PD chargers and what I've found is that depending on which USB-C to USB-A makes a difference whether I get rapid charge or not.
I'm slowly converting over to USB-C to USB-C but it is stupid expensive for some things like the power packs with USB-C...
Anyway, try a few different cables and see if it works for you, also it seems to work a tiny bit better on the Oreo Beta however my QC 2.0 car charger doesn't charge as fast as it did on 7.1.1 but luckily the car chargers are the cheapest USB-C PD items to buy, roughly about the same price as a cable.
One last note, the same charger and cable don't always go into rapid charging mode so replugging the cable in sometime kicks in rapid mode for me.
What is the best car charger?
Zargone said:
What is the best car charger?
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Haven't tried it, but something like this with USB PD sounds like it would be good - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-Delivery-Output-Adaptor-Samsung/dp/B01M2BLLVN/
I had my phone plugged into a regular USB jack on a car this weekend and the battery didn't charge at all
Alas, not available in the US...

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