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Worth buying Mi %5 Plus?

Hi,
I want to buy a new Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus and have some questions.
Is screen have a gorilla glass or equivalant screen protection?
Have you got scratches easly after long use?
Are AOSP ROMs work good?
I had a Nexus 5X, and it was dead of BLOD. I like light ROMS, but ROMs will work good on xiomi?
Is the phone durable?
I will buy Mi 5s Plus from off-market, means it will not have proper warranty.
And how it feels?
Do you suggest buying it?
Thank you so so much.

I bought mine in January and still no major scratches on the screen. I do not use a screen protector. However, the back of the phone easily get scratches. The phone is pretty durable as I have dropped it many times without any damage.
Pros:
Mi 5S Plus feel very good in the hand thanks to the rounded edges and light weight.
The screen has excellent brightness and is very crisp The best IPS-screen I have ever used.
Battery life is great. You easily get 7-8 hours SOT during on day.
Very fast performance.
Cons:
The camera is not that good. Not much better than on a budget phone (e.g. Redmi Note 4X). Dual camera is a gimmick.
Me and many other 5S Plus users have problems with the touchscreen when using horizontal sliders, for instance in spotify, netflix.
Verdict:
If a good camera is not a main priority for you I can easily recommend Mi 5S Plus.

Agreed with above. I had a nexus 5x. Still works, but battery life is bad on it. Only thing I miss about it is the better camera, and the fact the speaker faced forward rather than down. Otherwise, everything I like about this phone is better. Works well with custom firmware; can't stand miui. You have to wait for Xiaomi to accept bootloader unlock request which is annoying too.

>Me and many other 5S Plus users have problems with the touchscreen when using horizontal sliders, for instance in spotify, netflix.
I don't have a problem with this. But I don't use both of the apps you mentioned, but it works good on youtube, MxPlayer etc.

I have to revise my opinion regarding the camera. I have used the google camera 2.2 hdr+ during the last week and 5S Plus now takes very good photos in both daylight and low-light. A notch below the best camera phones of course, but still very good I would say.

I have a N5x, do you recommend this phone for Aosp roms? How's battery life?

Actually, i have dropped my phone on concreate, and its screen broken just after 1 week after purchasing
I just tried for 1 week, and i like it. Even i used on stock ROM, i was waiting for miui unlock permissions to try custom Roms.
I recommend it, really good device, but is screen a bit fragile

What's the diff between this and Mi 8?

What's the diff between this and Mi 8? Really, I'm just wondering what the mi mix series in general vs mi's in general are different, in what way?

Well, the Mi 8 is 5mm taller and a bit lighter, has a notched AMOLED screen,dual GPS, and the FaceID functions. 2S has QI wireless charging though.
Most of the internals seem to be same, so it's really screen type and front design that sets them apart.
As much as I miss AMOLED, having a notchless screen and a smaller phone works fine for me!

Really disapointed with this policy to copy the notch from Apple phone....thank God, the 2S haven't that.
Mi 8 has QC 4.0, 2S has QC 3.0.
Overall, Mi 8 is the same as 2S, but with 6,21 amoled screen, with 2248×1080, 20-megapixel selfie camera. dual GPS, Android 8.1 Oreo with interface MIUI 10...and a notch....
Can't tell about the bezels, it seems to be almost the same.
If you like notch, this phone have some improvements over Mix 2S...

and Thank GOD they are both bootloader locked for 360 hours...:silly:

Mix 2S has better global network support (unless they come out with a global mi8 later).

Mi mix 2s doing his work very well, nothing to complain
But i just want to have Mi 8 Explorer Edition

MIX series has a unique design to get rid of the notch and use no top bezel. Unless manufacturers figure out a way to shoot photos through the screen or use Vivo solution with retractable camera, there is no way around notch/top bezel. I was waiting to see Lenovo with "full screen display" and look what they done. The only reason i bought MIX 2S is that phone look way too cool and i do not mind flipping it when taking a selfie.
Anything more than 6" is hard to fit in the pocket and will require huge battery, so for me this is a best phone i've seen this year so far, not to mention quick updates from MIUI. I am using Smart Launcher for years and i think it's better that any GUI, unfortunately, manufacturers will always find and excuse to install bunch of bloatware. Only complain is that this phone is too heavy because of the ceramic back

Blurry text/ghosting while scrolling.

I currently own a Mi Mix 2 at the moment, and I have to say that it is perfect in my eyes aside from one pretty significant issue. Whenever you scroll through text, or anything really, there is a blurring effect similar to ghosting on LCD displays only waay worse. If you do a quick Google you can see gifs that demonstrate how bad it is. Everything else about the panel is perfect with regards to color reproduction and brightness.
My question is this, has the issue been resolved in the Mi Mix 2s? I read on a display benchmark that the response time from black to white has decreased 10ms.
Source:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Mi-Mix-2S-Smartphone-Review.305878.0.html
So has anyone noticed the text blurring on the Mix 2s? Has anyone noticed an improvement if you came from the original Mix 2?

I don't own a mi mix 2 but with the 2s scrolling performance is very good. No ghosting for me

Flatric said:
I don't own a mi mix 2 but with the 2s scrolling performance is very good. No ghosting for me
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So there's no text blur or ghosting on yours? The Mi Mix 2 I have is insanely smooth, but still has ghosting pretty evidently.

jal3223 said:
So there's no text blur or ghosting on yours? The Mi Mix 2 I have is insanely smooth, but still has ghosting pretty evidently.
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I don't realize any ghosting, I can make you a video on friday if you want

I'm interested in buying this phone but I am really worried about this 'ghosting' issue that was present in the Mi MIX 2. I searched online to see if the issue was still present in the Mi MIX 2S and found this statement in the AnandTech review:
"What is probably the Mi MIX 2S’s biggest weak point is the screen. I was subjectively quite annoyed with the pixel response time as it very much results in visible ghosting and smearing, especially in scrolling text."
The reason this worries me is because my eyes are very sensitive. I bought a ZTE Axon 7 last year and had nothing but trouble for months with headaches and eyestrain. I found this was due to the phone using an AMOLED panel with Pulse-Width Modulation. I stopped using the phone immediately and my symptoms disappeared the next day. Users also reported these symptoms with the Samsung Galaxy S7 which uses the exact same display panel.

I have a Mi Mix 2s and it most definitely has severe ghosting when scrolling. If you are sensitive to that stuff this phone ain't for you I'm afraid. Text gets pretty blurred when scrolling. The panel has a very bad refresh rate. The phone is super smooth in operation though. But stuff gets blurred.

The ghosting is tolerable. If you updated to miui 10 pie rom + enable force gpu rendering, it will be better and almost unnoticeable.
The major drawback from this ghosting screen is VR. This phone is almost unusable for vr headset, since moving head a little will create severe motion blur.

dannejanne said:
I have a Mi Mix 2s and it most definitely has severe ghosting when scrolling. If you are sensitive to that stuff this phone ain't for you I'm afraid. Text gets pretty blurred when scrolling. The panel has a very bad refresh rate. The phone is super smooth in operation though. But stuff gets blurred.
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arddy1 said:
The ghosting is tolerable. If you updated to miui 10 pie rom + enable force gpu rendering, it will be better and almost unnoticeable.
The major drawback from this ghosting screen is VR. This phone is almost unusable for vr headset, since moving head a little will create severe motion blur.
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Thanks for those responses. I didn't see these messages until now because I wasn't quoted in the replies. That really sucks if the phone suffers from bad ghosting. The problem is, Xiaomi devices aren't sold officially within the UK and so I can't just pop into a store and try it out for myself. I know my eyes are supersensitive when it comes to PWM flickering but I might be OK with the ghosting, especially if I can enable GPU rendering and apply tempered-glass to reduce the effect as suggested. Would this really make a big difference?
I know I'm fine with my ZUK Z2 which does NOT use PWM and has response times of 18ms Black to White and 30ms 50% Grey to 80% Grey. In comparison the Mi MIX 2S is 25.4ms and 56ms respectively, which is a fair amount worse on paper.
This really is colossally disappointing because the Mi MIX 2S is like my dream phone despite it's few flaws. Unfortunately the Mi MIX 2 also suffers the same problem and the Mi MIX 3 will be far too expensive. I have a choice of the Pocophone F1 too but I can't stand the notch and those horrid rounded corners. The Mi A2 is another but the 3,000mAh battery capacity is not sufficient in 2018.

P650SE said:
Thanks for those responses. I didn't see these messages until now because I wasn't quoted in the replies. That really sucks if the phone suffers from bad ghosting. The problem is, Xiaomi devices aren't sold officially within the UK and so I can't just pop into a store and try it out for myself. I know my eyes are supersensitive when it comes to PWM flickering but I might be OK with the ghosting, especially if I can enable GPU rendering and apply tempered-glass to reduce the effect as suggested. Would this really make a big difference?
I know I'm fine with my ZUK Z2 which does NOT use PWM and has response times of 18ms Black to White and 30ms 50% Grey to 80% Grey. In comparison the Mi MIX 2S is 25.4ms and 56ms respectively, which is a fair amount worse on paper.
This really is colossally disappointing because the Mi MIX 2S is like my dream phone despite it's few flaws. Unfortunately the Mi MIX 2 also suffers the same problem and the Mi MIX 3 will be far too expensive. I have a choice of the Pocophone F1 too but I can't stand the notch and those horrid rounded corners. The Mi A2 is another but the 3,000mAh battery capacity is not sufficient in 2018.
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GPU rendering does not help one bit. Placebo. It's hardware limitation.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2S using Tapatalk

dannejanne said:
GPU rendering does not help one bit. Placebo. It's hardware limitation.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2S using Tapatalk
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*Sigh* I don't think there's even a phone in existence at the moment that meets the criteria I'm looking for. The Honor View 10 was looking like the phone for me until Huawei decided to stop bootloader unlocking. All the other non-OLED alternatives like the Pocophone, Mi MIX 2S and Mi A2 have their own problems as I mentioned previously.
I wish more manufacturers would adopt 120Hz panels like Razer. I think that's the future. I'd also like to see more in-screen fingerprint scanners but at least we know for certain that technology is coming to the mainstream shortly.

P650SE said:
*Sigh* I don't think there's even a phone in existence at the moment that meets the criteria I'm looking for. The Honor View 10 was looking like the phone for me until Huawei decided to stop bootloader unlocking. All the other non-OLED alternatives like the Pocophone, Mi MIX 2S and Mi A2 have their own problems as I mentioned previously.
I wish more manufacturers would adopt 120Hz panels like Razer. I think that's the future. I'd also like to see more in-screen fingerprint scanners but at least we know for certain that technology is coming to the mainstream shortly.
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Yeah it's really the only flaw with this phone. I see it easily when using it but it's not a dealbreaker for me. But I understand it is if you are sensitive to that kind of stuff I know some can get dizzy and **** because of it. Most phones have at least one thing that can be bothersome. I still wait for the perfect phone for me! This is pretty close though.

dannejanne said:
Yeah it's really the only flaw with this phone. I see it easily when using it but it's not a dealbreaker for me. But I understand it is if you are sensitive to that kind of stuff I know some can get dizzy and **** because of it. Most phones have at least one thing that can be bothersome. I still wait for the perfect phone for me! This is pretty close though.
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Well thanks for your feedback, I had a hard time finding a definitive answer on this since a lot of people claim they don't notice anything wrong with the screen on the Mi MIX 2S. Regrettably I think it's probably best for me to avoid this phone and wait for something else. Right now there's nothing else that matches what I'm looking for.
Hopefully they'll fix the screen issues in the Mi MIX 3 but I don't like the thought of spending more than £300 on a phone, so it won't be for me. And they might end up using OLED which means unbearable PWM flickering.

P650SE said:
Well thanks for your feedback, I had a hard time finding a definitive answer on this since a lot of people claim they don't notice anything wrong with the screen on the Mi MIX 2S. Regrettably I think it's probably best for me to avoid this phone and wait for something else. Right now there's nothing else that matches what I'm looking for.
Hopefully they'll fix the screen issues in the Mi MIX 3 but I don't like the thought of spending more than £300 on a phone, so it won't be for me. And they might end up using OLED which means unbearable PWM flickering.
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I think you make the right choice. Every time I scroll on my 2s I see like a ghost image standing still for a split millisecond while content scrolls. It's enough to notice it all the time and while it bothers me a bit I can live with it. Good luck whatever you decide to get in the future =)

I have the same bad surprise with a Mi Mix 2. The perfect phone for many of my criterias, but this blurred text is very annoying for me.
Did you found another Xiaomi (or other phone) without this issue ? Thanks

Xiaomi Mi problems or just rumors?

Hi XDA guys!
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
Don't get me wrong. I never had a MI phone but in shops they perform GREAT so I wonder what's the fuss is about?

You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.

Bryandu13 said:
You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.
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Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....

My mi mix 2s issue is just about ghosting screen and laggy video recording, other than that is perfect.

So many issues. Mostly software which has too many bugs to list. Text selection is buggy. Text input is laggy because of full screen gestures. Often no way to switch apps during calls. MIUI is a disaster. Our Mi A2 running Android One is a significant step up.
In terms of hardware, the Mix 2s is ok. The screen is the main problem. It is not very bright outside compared to my old pixel. Also it scratches very easily. I've never had a scratch on a phone screen in over 10 years, but I already have 2 on this handset after a few weeks and I don't have a clue how as I don't keep anything else in the same pocket. It says it is gorilla glass but I don't believe it - I think it is made out of cheese

I've noticed performance drops on benchmarks too. First Antutu score was 270k, the last one i did after factory was 209k....
Phone gets hot real quick, idle cpu temperature is around 39C.
My camera lens started to peel... after a week

androidbadboy said:
Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....
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1 - Low scores for a S845 (less than 200k on AnTuTu, 3400 on 3dmark slingshot extreme, 1900-7000 on Geekbench)
2 - Xiaomi announced big buffs for camera and performances with their Android P builds.
3 - I'm just talking about scratches, because the back is ceramic and shouldn't be scrashed so easily under a case (the provided one).

That scratching is simply a way to tell Your subconcius to buy another flagship from Xiaomi cause the current one will be too scrached.
Are You sure that the long awaited Mi Mix 2s has a long list of bugs?
Xiaomi did overtime to put this phone on the market with flawless opinion.
What else I can expect from Mi Mix 2s and do You think that these bugs won't exist in the newly lanuched Mi8?
BTW It's a shame, Xiaomi was well on their way to beat even Samsung with performance to price ratio but they suddenly asked too much cash for their top phones.
If they would keep up what has been done in the low budget phones we could have a worldwide revolution resouting in ALL brands lowering their price for even flagship phones.
It was so close... We all would benefit from it. For example a Samsung S9+ instead of 1000 $ would cost 600 USD.
Xiaomi did us no favor and got all of a sudden a big time player alhought their flagships are yet far from being great.

Who cares?I am using this phone, not someone else.I like it, this is the most important thing.

1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.

Adriano-A3 said:
1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.
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2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.

I've had mine for 3 months now, and it's perfect for me, especially for the price.
No scratches, no peel lenses, and I don't notice any ghosting. In fact, my only gripe is that the MIUI notification pull down with the brightness slider needs you to touch where the slider is before you can move it. My previous phone (ZUK Z2 Pro) let you tap anywhere on the slider bar and it would move to where your finger is. So quickly upping to full brightness in sunlight on my Mix 2S is trickier as I need to see where the slider is.

Bryandu13 said:
2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.
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2 - You are right. Is Xiaomi crazy?
3 - As I told for a friend early: I didn't notice any difference while using Mix 2 and Mix 2S. I'm not on gaming. I just want a never-lag device, iykwim.
4 - I'm with my device 24 hours per day. I know where it is everytime.

I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
Fortunately some people here are developing custom ROMs and I'm on pixel experience gsi right now which works flawlessly. It's like having a Pixel for half the price. Of course there is some work left for the Devs regarding some little features like auto brightness and camera apps but I'm use a Gcam port and it's fine for me.
It's not the device IMO its the software that kills it. They have good prices but the bootloader unlocking process is really annoying and their software suite like the MiFlash tool is really crappy.
I tried flashing the Android P Beta from Xiaomi and almost bricked my phone because they just forgot to include some batch files in the original download. I was lucky because some guy here provided all the needed files and I got the device running but this must not happen to a company that wants to be a global player.
Just my 2 cents...
I use the provided case and have no scratches, lens peels whatsoever but the case start to break on the lower right corner after just 2 months and taking it off only 3 times. But it was free so I'm okay with that.

kleinholzinferno said:
I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
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Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!

guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
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The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?

mike freegan said:
The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?
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I had both stock and miui , emui , etc...
I had Nokia 8 , Lg G6 , Honor 8 huawei p9 , p10 plus, xiaomi mi mix 2s , samsung s5
And i dont understand why do you say that miui has less features ... It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
It seems you dont know what you are talking about , i found that the phone with less features was nokia 8 (stock) . The only thing good was the fastest updates but i had no control about nothing

guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!
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Just to clarify some things:
Before buying a product at that price range I'm thoroughly investigating the product. So I was not "totally unconscious" as you call it.
I was aware of the OS and the differences from stock android. But if you can't get your hands on a device before buying it you have to trust reviews and hands on videos. And almost all of them didn't mention the problems I encountered.
As posted before you're getting lied to or bugs and errors are just sugarcoated and no one tells the truth.
I have no problem flashing phones and always did and I'm glad there are alternatives for this piece of crap MIUI. You say it's developed for years? Maybe, but for this amount of time invested into an OS we could expect a better performance and stable ROMs without all the bugs.
Have you ever read the official MIUI forum? Besides the point whor**g there it's full of bugs and problems and none of the Xiaomi devs gives a flying f*ck about the people reporting them.
I'm happy with the pixel experience rom by now. Never going back again.
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DMart9406 said:
It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
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Yeah themes are the most important feature... especially when you have to set your location to India to get it to work.
You know, that's one of the things that makes me mad. It's not only about pushing as many features into a rom as possible. They should work properly to be a benefit. Not working features are a no-go.
And all of the things you mention are not MIUI specific. They try to copy all the good stuff from other manufacturers, but fail permanently.
Battery life was catastrophic with MIUI. With the Pixel Experience rom I get twice the SOT. And that's with a not device customized GSI...let that sink in.

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Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.

guildamx said:
Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.
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Of course my opinion is subjective...as all opinions are. I just pointed out what bothers me about the forum, the device and the software.
I've seen and used much better android ROMs and MIUI is just not for me. So I switched the rom asap.
I also used Samsung's UI on my brand new tablet with at the time some of the best hardware you could get. And guess what it lagged awfully. So I dumped the Samsung firmware, installed lineage and it's snappy and responsive. No comparison.
But everybody likes and uses or needs other features, as you mentioned and that's perfectly fine. That's the great advantage of a free system like android.
I just don't need the "features" of MIUI to me it's overloaded.
Regarding the forum you're right. It's like playing COD with a bunch of 14 year olds on steroids.

whether to sell note 9 and goto mi mix 3 or not. please advise.

i currently own a note 9. yes its power house with features but i hardly use the s-pen. i dont care for it.
its got expandable storage but 128 built in is fine for me and i could care less for expandable. 128 suffice for me.
i am VERY attracted to the full no bezel screen and the slider for the camera is a WOW for me. i love it.
my own only beef at the moment is WHY the battery is 3200mah?
the note 9 has 4000. thats the only thing pissing me off. a con for the mix 3 and a pro for the note 9.
and no i dont want the mi 9 (i dont want notches) so please dont recommend it.
at the current shop its going for $459. which means if i sell my note 9 for lets say $425 i only pay a difference of $34 dollars.
i am a fan of miui interface and its tweaks ...
however, since the battery is minuscule at 3200 you'd think xioami would add dark mode since it has an amoled screen thereby help conserving battery ... yet from what i am reading all over the web the feature is still missing. or is available only on the global beta. and another option would be to use dark themes which may cause issues on some apps.
i also noticed there are pixel aosp based roms with "Smart pixels" feature. is that the same as dark mode? and will installing such rom lose the sliding functionality?
i am not a gamer. i use basic apps. rarely facebook. whatsapp, telegram and the usual chrome and youtube-vanced (which can be themed to dark mode).
i am not gonna ask about rooting and magisk cause i know its doable.
please help me. will the battery disappoint me?
on a side note, i noticed the usb type c in mix 3 is type 2 not 3 while the note 9 is 3.1
also, the addition of the free wireless charger out of the box is very nice. but does it do fast charging?

if the battery that trouble you, watch this video
https://youtu.be/eKyYdMdTfD8?t=456
even with 800mAh difference, Mix 3 only lost for about 30 minutes to Note 9.
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charging speed comparison
https://youtu.be/aDcJI7q1TTE
Note 9 lost to Mix 3 about 1 hour :shocked:

cylent said:
i currently own a note 9. yes its power house with features but i hardly use the s-pen. i dont care for it.
its got expandable storage but 128 built in is fine for me and i could care less for expandable. 128 suffice for me.
i am VERY attracted to the full no bezel screen and the slider for the camera is a WOW for me. i love it.
my own only beef at the moment is WHY the battery is 3200mah?
the note 9 has 4000. thats the only thing pissing me off. a con for the mix 3 and a pro for the note 9.
and no i dont want the mi 9 (i dont want notches) so please dont recommend it.
at the current shop its going for $459. which means if i sell my note 9 for lets say $425 i only pay a difference of $34 dollars.
i am a fan of miui interface and its tweaks ...
however, since the battery is minuscule at 3200 you'd think xioami would add dark mode since it has an amoled screen thereby help conserving battery ... yet from what i am reading all over the web the feature is still missing. or is available only on the global beta. and another option would be to use dark themes which may cause issues on some apps.
i also noticed there are pixel aosp based roms with "Smart pixels" feature. is that the same as dark mode? and will installing such rom lose the sliding functionality?
i am not a gamer. i use basic apps. rarely facebook. whatsapp, telegram and the usual chrome and youtube-vanced (which can be themed to dark mode).
i am not gonna ask about rooting and magisk cause i know its doable.
please help me. will the battery disappoint me?
on a side note, i noticed the usb type c in mix 3 is type 2 not 3 while the note 9 is 3.1
also, the addition of the free wireless charger out of the box is very nice. but does it do fast charging?
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Don't sell the note 9 and contribute more for a phone that's half as good

AMZMA said:
if the battery that trouble you, watch this video
https://youtu.be/eKyYdMdTfD8?t=456
even with 800mAh difference, Mix 3 only lost for about 30 minutes to Note 9.
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charging speed comparison
https://youtu.be/aDcJI7q1TTE
Note 9 lost to Mix 3 about 1 hour :shocked:
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so the first video, battery life, the mix 3 died at 5 hours and 19 minutes. note 9 5 hours and 46 minutes. 27 minutes difference. not a big deal to be honest.
the note 9 and the mix 3 share the same processor, sd 845. yes, samsung has lots of bloatware crap and it may drain faster than the mix 3.
still though, i want to enable dark mode as i have gotten accustomed to it on the note 9 of using it.
furthermore, i have my note 9 set to the lowest resolution at hd+ (1480 x 720). not sure what the default is on the mix 3. (set to dark mode always on)
i plan on rooting and using titanium backup to freeze apps so i will tinker to my hearts desire to save battery!
Anyways, price wise,
i found the phone even cheaper at $445 (mix 3) as opposed to the shop at the mall of $459 which says he gives a year warranty. i dont give a damn about warranties cause i am always in the mood to switch phones. funny thing is its the same company with a branch shop at the mall. i guess they charge more cause of the mall.
i dont know. i may take the bullet and go for it.
the latest offer i got for my note 9 is $425 dollars. so i'd be adding only $20 dollars to purchase the mix 3.
would you do it?

cylent said:
so the first video, battery life, the mix 3 died at 5 hours and 19 minutes. note 9 5 hours and 46 minutes. 27 minutes difference. not a big deal to be honest.
the note 9 and the mix 3 share the same processor, sd 845. yes, samsung has lots of bloatware crap and it may drain faster than the mix 3.
still though, i want to enable dark mode as i have gotten accustomed to it on the note 9 of using it.
furthermore, i have my note 9 set to the lowest resolution at hd+ (1480 x 720). not sure what the default is on the mix 3. (set to dark mode always on)
i plan on rooting and using titanium backup to freeze apps so i will tinker to my hearts desire to save battery!
Anyways, price wise,
i found the phone even cheaper at $445 (mix 3) as opposed to the shop at the mall of $459 which says he gives a year warranty. i dont give a damn about warranties cause i am always in the mood to switch phones. funny thing is its the same company with a branch shop at the mall. i guess they charge more cause of the mall.
i dont know. i may take the bullet and go for it.
the latest offer i got for my note 9 is $425 dollars. so i'd be adding only $20 dollars to purchase the mix 3.
would you do it?
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Don't pay to downgrade

Mackay53 said:
Don't pay to downgrade
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true true. but day after day my note 9 decreases in price so next week i may get a crappier offer.

cylent said:
true true. but day after day my note 9 decreases in price so next week i may get a crappier offer.
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And it will still be better than the mix 3 which will also drop on price next week.
Only benefit over note 9 is the smaller bezels but they aren't that much smaller

Mackay53 said:
And it will still be better than the mix 3 which will also drop on price next week.
Only benefit over note 9 is the smaller bezels but they aren't that much smaller
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There's not much I like in the note 9 that the mix 3 doesn't already have expect for the battery.
I hate the s pen.
I hate the bezelz on the note 9 and they are not small.
I gave the guy who wants my note 9 a final price of 440$. If he accepts ill go for it.
If not, I'll stick to my note 9.
What I do like about the mix 3 is the slider. It's an absurd reason to do the trade. ? Plus as I said it shares all the same hardware expect for the battery.
Furthermore, I tend to like miui more Samsungs one ui crap interface.
On a side note I also considered the honor magic 2 but it lacks wireless charging so that's out of the question.

cylent said:
There's not much I like in the note 9 that the mix 3 doesn't already have expect for the battery.
I hate the s pen.
I hate the bezelz on the note 9 and they are not small.
I gave the guy who wants my note 9 a final price of 440$. If he accepts ill go for it.
If not, I'll stick to my note 9.
What I do like about the mix 3 is the slider. It's an absurd reason to do the trade. ? Plus as I said it shares all the same hardware expect for the battery.
Furthermore, I tend to like miui more Samsungs one ui crap interface.
On a side note I also considered the honor magic 2 but it lacks wireless charging so that's out of the question.
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Screen to body ratio for note 9 is approx 83.4% while mix 3 is 85%, not really much difference. Mix 3 still has bezels.
Will lose IP rating, better build quality, better components, UI that works etc

Mackay53 said:
Screen to body ratio for note 9 is approx 83.4% while mix 3 is 85%, not really much difference. Mix 3 still has bezels.
Will lose IP rating, better build quality, better components, UI that works etc
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I suppose the 83.4 and 85 on paper might not seem big but in the hand and visually it looks better (the mix 3)
IP rating of water resistance you mean?
I don't go diving in swimming pools all day ?
Better components such as what? The build quality on both is on par. I literally compared them both at the store.... Not an issue.
UI that works? I stated I hated one ui which is samsungs ui and prefer miui.
Anywho. I think I am closing the question as I am not in the mood to do the switch and lose $25 for one. Then I have to install a beta version of miui just to get the dark mode feature.
And, my whole attraction to the sliding gimmick I gave to get over. I hardly take selfies so how is the slider benefiting me?
I just saw the phones next to each other and the mix 3 looked so much nicer. That's really it.

cylent said:
I suppose the 83.4 and 85 on paper might not seem big but in the hand and visually it looks better (the mix 3)
IP rating of water resistance you mean?
I don't go diving in swimming pools all day ?
Better components such as what? The build quality on both is on par. I literally compared them both at the store.... Not an issue.
UI that works? I stated I hated one ui which is samsungs ui and prefer miui.
Anywho. I think I am closing the question as I am not in the mood to do the switch and lose $25 for one. Then I have to install a beta version of miui just to get the dark mode feature.
And, my whole attraction to the sliding gimmick I gave to get over. I hardly take selfies so how is the slider benefiting me?
I just saw the phones next to each other and the mix 3 looked so much nicer. That's really it.
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IP isn't just for water...
Build quality goes beyond looks. The wobble on the mix 3 is an example. Slider will get scratched
No point downgrading for a slider you'll hardly ever use
You don't need to install the beta as the theme store has identical themes to what the dark mode would do, pretty pointless feature to introduce in the system
Miui breaks notifications etc
Mix price is cheap for a reason

Mackay53 said:
IP isn't just for water...
Build quality goes beyond looks. The wobble on the mix 3 is an example. Slider will get scratched
No point downgrading for a slider you'll hardly ever use
You don't need to install the beta as the theme store has identical themes to what the dark mode would do, pretty pointless feature to introduce in the system
Miui breaks notifications etc
Mix price is cheap for a reason
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What do you mean by the slider will get scratched? The phone comes with a back cover.... Isn't that enough to somewhat protect it?
I don't consider it a downgrade unless you're talking battery capacity. As far as cpu, gpu, ram, internal storage... These are the same. As well as the screen which is also amoled.
Dark mode has made a huge battery difference in my note 9.as you may know amoled screens don't need to spend power to make the pixel white or any other color. If its black then the pixel is turned off thus conserving power. I don't know about the themes cause some use dark grey or near black and not true black. The whole dark mode feature is a true turn off the pixel.
Also, what do you mean by miui breaks notifications? I had a pocophone before and didn't have this issue.

cylent said:
What do you mean by the slider will get scratched? The phone comes with a back cover.... Isn't that enough to somewhat protect it?
I don't consider it a downgrade unless you're talking battery capacity. As far as cpu, gpu, ram, internal storage... These are the same. As well as the screen which is also amoled.
Dark mode has made a huge battery difference in my note 9.as you may know amoled screens don't need to spend power to make the pixel white or any other color. If its black then the pixel is turned off thus conserving power. I don't know about the themes cause some use dark grey or near black and not true black. The whole dark mode feature is a true turn off the pixel.
Also, what do you mean by miui breaks notifications? I had a pocophone before and didn't have this issue.
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You'll get grit and dirt between the screen and the back and over time when you slide you'll get scratches, potentially on the front cameras.
Screen might be amoled but it's not super amoled like the note 9 which is superior.
Have a look at the threads here where people moan about miui notifications.
If you're going to upgrade just to shave 1 or 2mm off the bezel then in my opinion it's a waste. I'll be going back to bezels with next phone later this month.

If you like the phone, just buy it and enjoy it. It's a good phone.

crabamer said:
If you like the phone, just buy it and enjoy it. It's a good phone.
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so i found the answer.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix_3_5g-9602.php
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G
guess i'll have to wait.
decided not to sell the note 9. its a power house. literally!

Buying the Mix 3 5G might be the worst of the three options. Which 5G carrier are you planning to use it on??

invisiblewave said:
Buying the Mix 3 5G might be the worst of the three options. Which 5G carrier are you planning to use it on??
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Why? It has a 3800 mah battery + better features. A better cpu and gpu.
See comparison
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9378&idPhone2=9602
I am in the middle east and its either 4g or 3.9g. That's not important for me. It's the bigger battery and other improvements

There aren't any improvements. The bigger battery is required to support the beta hardware, with a separate modem and antennas. You also indicated that price was very important to you. You also mentioned you're not a gamer, so I'm curious what you're going to do with all that extra CPU & GPU horsepower. I've yet to find anything, including games, that the 4G version can't handle perfectly already.

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There aren't any improvements. The bigger battery is required to support the beta hardware, with a separate modem and antennas. You also indicated that price was very important to you. You also mentioned you're not a gamer, so I'm curious what you're going to do with all that extra CPU & GPU horsepower. I've yet to find anything, including games, that the 4G version can't handle perfectly already.
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Hmm. I suppose you're right. So is my note 9 with 4000mah battery overkill?
You're making a good argument here. But then comes an important question: what's better at better battery management.... Miui or Samsungs one ui?
In regards to the price sure it's important. Xiaomi can get away with cheaper price and they don't include a few necessities like headphones or a otg adaptor which comes in the box with the note 9. These two accessories are important.

Does the Note 9 come with a 20W wireless charger? And are you telling me you don't already have headphones that will work with the Mix? I think the OTG adapter I bought some time ago was about $5. Also, define "better" when it comes to battery management. MIUI is about the best I've seen for battery management in terms of battery life, but not the best for killing background processes (which is how battery life is extended). The PE rom does a better job of battery management for me, battery life is about the same, but it's not as zealous when it comes to killing background processes. Unless I'm running secure DNS, the battery on my phone doesn't get below 50% by the end of the day.