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I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
verks said:
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Think I can help answer a few Qs.
Am using a Straight Talk sim (ATT) in my T-Mo Note Edge. Getting 8-15+ mb/s down...2-4 mb/s up (more than enough for me). Followed rooting method posted by TekHD. Did not see unlock procedure for T-Mo Edge.
T-Mo does hold your unlock hostage for 2+ months or $100 (didn't see this stated and argued). Unlocked through a reputable unlocker through fleabay (~$24 I think - Tmo also recommended...go figure).
Hope this helps.
Wish someone can release a qualcomm kernel w OC/UV/governors and thermal control soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2959522
[ROM] T-Mobile Note Edge SM-915T NJL Rooted Stock Deodexed Knox-disabled + AT&T Info
verks said:
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
Shagerty said:
Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
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strange. I have my att sim in a SM-N915T on 6.0.1 N915TUVS2DPG2 and it says network locked.
Do you guys think the Verizon unit will have the same LTE bands as the Play Store model? I can get these st 2yr contract pricing on my Verizon business account and would like to use one on AT&T service, but need to be sure Band 12/17 is unlocked and ready for use.
The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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My only concern is that the Verizon website does not list all US LTE bands such as Band 12 or Band 17. This was an issue with my Note 7 also. Band 12/17 were capable and supported by the hardware, but Verizon locked these from being used. It wasn't until I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto my Verizon Note 7 unit that I was able to use those 2 LTE bands.
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
alexjzim said:
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
mdmogren said:
This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
MrBaltazar said:
That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
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The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
cadcamaro said:
The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
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That is correct IF there isn't a LTE capable IMEI on your AT&T account, you would need to have them add the LTE capable IMEI and provision LTE. This issue is based on Verizon's firmware and their lockdown, however. I have thoroughly tested this and even entered service mode to see what bands are available with Verizon firmware vs AT&T firmware.
not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
hollowlog said:
I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
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If you install LTE Discovery you can see the band you're connected do. If the phone can connect to band 12 or 17, I would say the Verizon version most likely supports all LTE bands.
I am using a Verizon Pixel currently on a 850Mhz/1.9Ghz GSM and Band 4 (2.1Ghz) and I am experiencing no issues. I used my carrier's SIM, and the only thing I had to do differently was update the SCMS in the *#*#3646#*#* to match my carrier's Service Center ID. This allowed my SMS to work. I experience no issues here as the phone operates as though it were unlocked.
I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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smgrimes said:
I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
jawmail said:
Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
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Yup and on top of that they seem 100% feature parity. I've even seen (on my Verizon sim) the option for volte video calling. And volte voice definitely works on T-Mobile as well as wifi calling.
Just the locked bootloader is the only downside.
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alexjzim said:
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
TCPDump said:
This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
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Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
jawmail said:
Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
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The misinformation and confusion about this phone in general all the way around astounds me. It's actually rather simple. The only major difference in the Verizon variant from the play is that the bootloader is locked.
First unfortunately it's not just one version for all the carriers as some had suggested. The GSM providers phones do not support CDMA. The T-Mobile version is the only one with the new band 66 LTE. The AT&T version is the only one that supports band 30 (the fastest band in my area)
SEE FULL SPECS by following the links
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-sprint
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s-8-at-t
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-t-mobile
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-verizon
So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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Band 12 includes band 17. If the phone truly doesn't support band 17, then I suspect that AT&T advertises the band as 12 and 17 to support it.
Guys check this eBay listing, there's something funny about it, 232298704354
Selling cheaper, one unit, faster than official shipping.
The seller feed back is off from picture to details of feedback and also the items sold are entirely different than phones.
Think it's a hacked account?
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So what it seems like to me (im not including sprint nor did I even pay attention to it) is that the Verizon model should work great with both AT&T and Tmobile if one wanted to switch. Looks like the verizon model would be the closes to the factory unlocked model, even more so if they really dont have any Verizon branding on them. But, what is 3G TD-SCDMA that is on the GSM models?
It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well. I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
954wrecker said:
What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
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The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
dustbuster said:
The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
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So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
The phones I ordered from samsung are not the same as I would have gotten from the carriers directly? I'm sorry but i think it's you that is confused.
954wrecker said:
So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
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The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
dustbuster said:
The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
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Thanks but the links you provided prove absolutely nothing that you said
dustbuster said:
It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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I don't see where the carriers list their model numbers anywhere...
Actually, here's other preorders from carriers:
AT&T (Says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71861643
Sprint (Also says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71876304
It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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equake said:
It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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That's exactly how the US S7 variants were, only difference was the firmware installed. I'm hoping for the same.
Hello, all.
I have seen similar posts to this; however, I cannot seem to get a definitive answer.
I have the Verizon 8+. I would like to throw my T-Mobile SIM card in to this device and use on T-Mobile. Reason for not purchasing the TMob phone is that I can save $$ through Verizon.
In any case, I have seen some posts that say that every carrier model contains the same LTE bands and I have seen some posts that say that certain models (VZW) may be lacking particular LTE bands required for ATT and T-Mobile.
Can anyone confirm one way or the other? Does the Verizon model (which is already unlocked) contain all the LTE bands I will need for full service on T-Mobile? Or is it worth just buying the T-Mobile variant?
Thanks in advance and I apologize for any duplicate post; however, I can not seem to find a definitive answer on this question.
Dial *#2263# on a Verizon gs8 and see what bands you can set it too.
codeworks said:
Hello, all.
I have seen similar posts to this; however, I cannot seem to get a definitive answer.
I have the Verizon 8+. I would like to throw my T-Mobile SIM card in to this device and use on T-Mobile. Reason for not purchasing the TMob phone is that I can save $$ through Verizon.
In any case, I have seen some posts that say that every carrier model contains the same LTE bands and I have seen some posts that say that certain models (VZW) may be lacking particular LTE bands required for ATT and T-Mobile.
Can anyone confirm one way or the other? Does the Verizon model (which is already unlocked) contain all the LTE bands I will need for full service on T-Mobile? Or is it worth just buying the T-Mobile variant?
Thanks in advance and I apologize for any duplicate post; however, I can not seem to find a definitive answer on this question.
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Just go to Samsung's website and check their specs. Someone also listed the links where you can get them with a simple click.
Just off hand they all have different spectrums, it will not have all T-mobile bands, and you will lose a carrier feature or two(different standards). It will have just enough for most places.
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First of all 2263 code is not valid for Verizon. Secondly Verizon blocks service mode on Samsung phones. If you want to use Verizon s8 on T-mobile, you'll have flash T-mobile firmware with odin to have all LTE bands.
The phones are the same hardware. You will need to flash the carrier firmware that you want on the device. So fkash TMO firmware on it and good to go. Thats how they did it with the S7. They all have all the bands. The firmware blocks some bands from other carriers but they do exist in the hardware.
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Sadly using the newest version of Odin you can not currently flash the T-Mobile firmware. It completes successfully using Odin and even after an immediate factory reset (with the VZW sim out) it still boots up with Verizon firmware.
If anyone figures this out I'd be real happy as well, as T-Mobile is much more reliable in my area.
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Hello everyone,
I am looking to buy an Unlocked Note 9 (US Version) to be used primarily on the Sprint Network. I am looking at new phones on Ebay and Amazon and they are all labeled as GSM unlocked or some of them say GSM and CDMA unlocked, yet they all say they cannot work on the Sprint or Metro PCS or Verizon network. Some of the ads show that they have SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware some others show SM-960U firmware while still stating "unlocked", but I am not sure if they understand the difference or maybe I do not.
Aside for the phone being blacklisted on these networks, is there any other reason why a Note 9 would not work on these CDMA networks if they are truly unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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Hello everyone,
I am looking to buy an Unlocked Note 9 (US Version) to be used primarily on the Sprint Network. I am looking at new phones on Ebay and Amazon and they are all labeled as GSM unlocked or some of them say GSM and CDMA unlocked, yet they all say they cannot work on the Sprint or Metro PCS or Verizon network. Some of the ads show that they have SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware some others show SM-960U firmware while still stating "unlocked", but I am not sure if they understand the difference or maybe I do not.
Aside for the phone being blacklisted on these networks, is there any other reason why a Note 9 would not work on these CDMA networks if they are truly unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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If you're going to be using the device primarily on Sprint, why not get an unlocked Sprint version of Note 9? It is guaranteed to work on Sprint's network plus if it is unlocked, it can be used on other carrier networks.
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Droidriven said:
If you're going to be using the device primarily on Sprint, why not get an unlocked Sprint version of Note 9? It is guaranteed to work on Sprint's network plus if it is unlocked, it can be used on other carrier networks.
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Hello Droidriven, I am trying to look for this, but I am unable to. I have not seen any ads specifically stating Sprint Unlocked. Every unlocked phone whether GSM or CDMA unlocked states something along the lines, will not work on sprint or verizon or metro. If the phone is truly unlocked and supports the CDMA bands that Sprint uses, then what is the reason behind it?
I am wondering if I can just buy a Sprint only Note9 then flash the SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware for it?
I went through the same issues with sprint, got a note 9 unlocked from a friend an they said it is not compatible. So I asked about buying a note 9 unlocked from them. I asked what is model number and it was the exact same as the one I just got. I asked what is the difference between one from them and the note 9 I baught from my friend, They said no difference, EXACT SAME! Sprint Just wanted me and you to buy a new phone from them in a contract. The Unlocked model's have modems for both, CDMA and GSM. I was with sprint for 20 years, they were decent only for good deals, service was **** in Milwaukee. I left them for spectrum. No issues and great service. Sorry 2 years late..