Any proof of waterproof? - ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) Questions & Answers

Hi, I know that a lot of phones nowadays are 'a bit' waterproof/splash-proof (for example Oneplus 6, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAx10G7zVaE), but due to a price of a certification it is not official. Do you know how is that about Zenfone 6?

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Difference between Xiaomi phones

Hello everyone. I got a question about different xiaomi phones. So i am looking for new phone and at this moment the most impressive phones out there is xiaomi. Can you tell me please which one of these are the fastest with the best specifications not only on "paper" but when holding in hand as well. What i mean by that is some phones have pretty nice camera and cpu/gpu specs on paper but the camera in reality doesnt work so well and they are slow as hell after few months usage.
So i am looking into a phone under 300$:
Xiaomi mi4 (there is a lot of them, not sure which one is the best)
Xiaomi redmi note 3
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro
If you got any other suggestion of the phones under 300$ feel free to post. Also do you know any legit sellers who sell in europe? thanks

Oneplus 6 alternatives

So we all know the op6 is coming soon and many of us are hoping to upgrade our outdated devices,but with Oneplus success in the market in recent years, their prices are continuosly going up,,maybe by small amounts on each phone,may be a big rise with the op6,we don't know yet
Anyway.What if the op6 launches with a price you cant afford.
What alternative devices have you in mind.
I have more or less decided that I will get a nokia 7 plus if the op6 is too expensive because it has what I need.Big battery and promise of frequent updates.Ive considered the honor view 10 and mi mix 2s also
What other mid to high range devices are you considering if tbe op6 is out of reach ?
ASUS Zenfone 5
only galaxy s9+ with unlocked bootloader.
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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rav101 said:
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
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What about the hardware? How can you ever bring this as an alternative?
Snapdragon 660? 4gig ram?
In this case xiaomi mi a1 is better, Android one
Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
rav101 said:
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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rav101 said:
In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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Yes absolutely you are right,20 to 30% difference in price of 5t and 7+ depending what country your in.It will be interesting to see what happens with the op6,but as you say it will certainly be higher.
I have been researching a lot of different devices to replace my op3 lately.I look at all the reviews,watch the youtube videos and join the forums to see what users are saying.
If I was to buy a phone now based on hardware alone and value for money Id go for the Honor view 10 with the kerin 970,but Honor are poor with updates.The Zenphone 5z looks great,but I dont think it will be available in UK/Ireland till July.It will though be cheaper than the op6 and 5t.
The Nokia 7+ is out May 2nd on Amazon,Im hoping the op6 is announced before then so I can make an informed decision,but could be ridiculous prices in which case Ill happily go for the 7+ which should be more than good enough for day to day use, especially as a non gamer.I don't play around with Roms as much as I use to and will be happy eith tbe long battery life and regular updates.
I do like oxygen os though and Oneplus are great with updates and theres a great community.Will be interesting to see what happrns within tbe next month or two
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
sdmackie said:
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
temporarium said:
That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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+1
4 lenses ftw
Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I'm in the UK and I'm hoping for the Essential Phone 2 to come, otherwise pretty sure it will be the OnePlus 6, if it doesn't. I live in hope.
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Hoping to get the OnePlus in my country
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What country are you in? Has it not had OnePlus before?
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Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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same here looks like the 6 is going to be too expensive for me and the honor 10 does look really inviting now that it has been announced
If OnePlus 6 is a flagship killer, let's see what are available at the flagship level in my country at 64GB variant
835:
Pixel 2 XL - Rs.57,995
LG V30+ - Rs.44,990 (Only 128GB)
Nokia 8 Sirocco - Rs.49,900
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Rs.67,900
Mi Mix 2 - Rs.32,999 (Only 128GB)
845:
OnePlus 6 - Expected around Rs.35,000
Samsung Galaxy s9/s9+ - Rs.57,900 / Rs.64,900
Kirin 970:
Honor v10 - Rs.29,999 (Only 128GB)
Huawei P20 Pro - Expected around Rs.50,000
Huawei P20 - Expected around Rs.30,000
The only problem which I see out for OP6 is the territory it's venturing into. Those who are spending north of 30k won't mind spending extra for getting what they needed. Mediocre Camera will definitely kill OP6 on arrival since every single unit there gives you the best. If Huawei P20 Pro comes around 40k. It'll cannibalize OP6 hands down. But i think Huawei P20 might be in OP6 territory and might give some serious trouble for them.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
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For customization, I agree. OnePlus just does that better than all the other Android based smartphones out there. For other features though, I'm getting less and less impressed by their offerings each year, and when they get too expensive, I'll simply stop getting them,. I'll probably still get the 6 though, but if their prices get as high as iPhone level, I'm out.
I know it's not a new phone, as it's been out a while, but I quite liked the Razer Phone. So might get one of those if the OP6 doesn't impress me enough. But let's wait and see.

Mi Mix 2S or Zenfone 5z?

I'm going to change from mi4c, which i have used for about 3 years.
My budget for searching of the new phone is about 490$.
After i surf the internet and done some researching, i've been thinking of either buying Asus Zenfone 5Z or Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Overall, i prefer performance over camera, and mostly use the phone for gaming.
So, what do you guys think? Which one should i buy?
You may don't notice any difference in gaming. But on MIUI 10 (still BETA but I have it) there is some very very interesting features for gaming mode.
If you decide to go with the Mix2s have a look at my post. I am $120 more than your budget but you would have the top of the line Mix2s running unlocked running MiUi 10 Global beta.
The best thing you can do is wait the Mi Mix 3 witch is coming in less than 2 months.
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The best thing you can do is wait the Mi Mix 3 witch is coming in less than 2 months.
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Didn't the Mix 2 come out in October?
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The best thing you can do is wait the Mi Mix 3 witch is coming in less than 2 months.
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I don't think I can wait that long. I'll buy the phone about in the early August
I hope the mix 2s will drop at that time
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The best thing you can do is wait the Mi Mix 3 witch is coming in less than 2 months.
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Yeah, but the price will skyrocket two times than mix 2s, and will be normal in two months too. Its because you know, it needs advanced technology to manufacture full bezelless display phone with durable motorized camera. Why does mi 8 still have nonsense chin although theres notch? Its because xiaomi is still not capable of making chin less phone, include mi mix 2s..
Bryandu13 said:
The best thing you can do is wait the Mi Mix 3 witch is coming in less than 2 months.
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Dream on
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Yeah, but the price will skyrocket two times than mix 2s, and will be normal in two months too. Its because you know, it needs advanced technology to manufacture full bezelless display phone with durable motorized camera. Why does mi 8 still have nonsense chin although theres notch? Its because xiaomi is still not capable of making chin less phone, include mi mix 2s..
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I think Xiaomi can do it but not at a price point that makes sense for them. Xiaomi is a value for the money brand. The only way to make a phone with an edge to edge display and no chin with current technology is with a foldable OLED display but that technology is too expensive for use in a mid priced phone unless you planned to cut some serious corners in other areas like performance and overall build quality. Xiaomi used an IPS LCD display on the Mix2/2S to keep the price around $500 at launch. Xiaomi doesn't have any models with a base price as high as flagships from Huawei, Samsung or Apple whose phones launch in the $800-$1000 range.
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I think Xiaomi can do it but not at a price point that makes sense for them. Xiaomi is a value for the money brand. The only way to make a phone with an edge to edge display and no chin with current technology is with a foldable OLED display but that technology is too expensive for use in a mid priced phone unless you planned to cut some serious corners in other areas like performance and overall build quality. Xiaomi used an IPS LCD display on the Mix2/2S to keep the price around $500 at launch. Xiaomi doesn't have any models with a base price as high as flagships from Huawei, Samsung or Apple whose phones launch in the $800-$1000 range.
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The Iphone x costs apple about 360$ to make and considering Xiaomi doesn't really sell their phones for much if any profit, I'd say it's possible.
The cost of manufacturing the phone is not the total price of the device (you have to consider the price of the manufacture, logistics, software costs, etc.). You can't compare it like this if you don't have the full picture (which hardly anyone has).

Any1 to Trade Oneplus 7pro for Note 9 Unlocked

As stated i want to trade my Note 9 for a Oneplus 7pro! Anyone tired of their oneplus 7 pro or don't like interested?
Hell No!
Not me, in fact I sold my N9 for a S10+, and then sold the S10+ for my badboy OnePlus 7 Pro!
Wait, so you want me to trade my new phone for a phone over a year older with less specifications from a manufacturer who takes the longest to release updates rather than a manufacturer who is among the first?
Hmmmm....Let me think....
Its a bait. They're going to send you a sticky note with "Note 9" written on it and a picture of an unlocked padlock.

Question S22 Ultra / Magic 5 Pro / OnePlus 11

Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
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Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
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I would never buy a used phone. No way to know how it was used by the previous owner.
S22U would have been my pick had it been new.
I don't have too much idea about the software on Honor device. But it is a very good phone based on reviews.
In this case, I'll go with OnePlus 11 just to be on the safe side.
Have you considered other phones like Vivo X90 and iQOO 11?
Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.
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Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.
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Those certifications mean nothing. Avoid a used phone if you can.
How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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The S22U tends to run slightly warmer. The battery life is average at best. On an average, I get about 5 hours SOT (mostly on WiFi) and a standby time of about 15 hours when the battery is at 15%. They have sorted this out on the S23U, so if you can stretch your budget, you should consider getting that instead.
Everything else is excellent, even if the software has a few bugs here and there.
Between the S22U and the OnePlus 11, I'll go with the S22U only because of it's cameras (S-Pen is a bonus). This is not to say that the OnePlus 11 cameras are bad. They are very good too. But the S22U is better.
OnePlus 11 has the better SOC and lighter software on its side. So it will give you a snappier performance and better battery life.
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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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Brand new is better. If you read through the forums here, you'll read about people who bought used phones that were essentially paper weights because they were either stolen, or bought then resold without being paid off, and Samsung locked them.

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