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I was following the live blog today on the new Razrs, as I was with Verizon and wanted one when they came out, but moved to ATT and got the Skyrocket instead. Which I have not to this day regretted, as it is the most complete package in a phone I have owned. So much so that i have felt little desire to upgrade to anything new, including the GS3. Especially including the GS3, which seems to follow this new trend of incremental design and feature upgrades.
I've been waiting for some entirely new feature to catch my attention, as NFC and SAMOLED and actually usable cameras did before. The edge to edge rumors really piqued my interest, as I have recently been struggling to understand the need for the top and bottom bezels to be so large, especially since ICS and up has on screen navigation keys which are, to me, exactly the kind of intuitive and unique feature Android should be shooting to incorporate across the range.
Anyhow... the Razr M's Edge to Edge screen is not impressing me. I compared bezels and it appears only slightly smaller than our skyrocket's bezels, not to mention still having that pointless bezel up top and bottom. Any opinions?
On a side note that new iPhone screen looks rediculous. Let's copy Android's 16:9 ratio but leave the gigantic bezels that Android doesn't even exaggerate that much anymore. Or Since 2011.
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I was following the live blog today on the new Razrs, as I was with Verizon and wanted one when they came out, but moved to ATT and got the Skyrocket instead. Which I have not to this day regretted, as it is the most complete package in a phone I have owned. So much so that i have felt little desire to upgrade to anything new, including the GS3. Especially including the GS3, which seems to follow this new trend of incremental design and feature upgrades.
I've been waiting for some entirely new feature to catch my attention, as NFC and SAMOLED and actually usable cameras did before. The edge to edge rumors really piqued my interest, as I have recently been struggling to understand the need for the top and bottom bezels to be so large, especially since ICS and up has on screen navigation keys which are, to me, exactly the kind of intuitive and unique feature Android should be shooting to incorporate across the range.
Anyhow... the Razr M's Edge to Edge screen is not impressing me. I compared bezels and it appears only slightly smaller than our skyrocket's bezels, not to mention still having that pointless bezel up top and bottom. Any opinions?
On a side note that new iPhone screen looks rediculous. Let's copy Android's 16:9 ratio but leave the gigantic bezels that Android doesn't even exaggerate that much anymore. Or Since 2011.
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No side-bezel is stupid because everytime you pick up your phone you'll be tapping something. Also, top/bottom bezel is important.. not useless. There's a camera, microphone, speaker, and light sensors there.
Edge to edge screen......very interesting, only thing is the top and bottom bezel is required for proximity sensor and other sensors as well as camera.The onscreen capacitive buttons doesn't sound that bad but I like them off the screen. Just personal preference.
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2x!
So are you!
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No side-bezel is stupid because everytime you pick up your phone you'll be tapping something. Also, top/bottom bezel is important.. not useless. There's a camera, microphone, speaker, and light sensors there.
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Well, it is really not "edge to edge":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2uWYrID1y4
Well then if I continue to see this crap about "reported" it will be considered as trolling, breaking the rules!, so just report (if you really do report at all) and wait for us to action. Thread locked as this topic has nothing to do with Sky Rocket.
There aren't any general posts on using the device, so here are a few points that resonate with me after a couple weeks of using the device.
I'm using the 8x on Bell in Canada, the blue version. Prior to buying the 8x I was using a Galaxy s3. I've used other WP in the past, so the OS is not totally new to me (Focus, Lumia 800). You could go to any of the major tech sites for a comprehensive review, that's not my intention with this post.
Industrial Design/Durability - A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds...it's absolutely lovely. The polycarbonate is fantastic for daily use and regular wear and tear. I regularly have the device in my jacket pocket with keys and not a mark on it. None of the little micro scratches that are present on any other phone, particularly with glossy surfaces. I do worry about getting a big scratch, I anticipate it will be more devastating to this material. I do worry that this thing will crumble if I drop it on a hard surface. It would probably fare just fine, but there is a sense that it is fragile and delicate. I also have a major beef about the design of the buttons...gets a section all its own.
Build Quality - At first I thought the build quality was great. But now after 2 weeks of use it has developed some occasional flex and creakiness. This is particularly evident when squeezing the device on the sides, something I do more often in my struggle to press the power/lock button. I still thing the build is very good, but it feels less solid in the hand when I feel it creak.
Usability of Buttons - I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless. I somehow thought I could get used to the power button, but not the case. First, the power button placement is less than ideal. This phone is too tall to have it on the top, I can't reach it without repositioning my hand. A user should be able to easily go from one-handed use to locking the phone. Second, there is no play or feedback in the buttons. They are so squishy and unresponsive its like I'm using a crap KIRF device. The power/lock button is the absolute worst, between the position of the button (in relation to the curvature of the plastic) and the lack of play, the power/lock button is nearly impossible to press. I seriously take 2-3 presses before I get it, when in a hurry even more times. The volume buttons are not nearly as annoying, but still useless. When I'm on a call with my headset and the phone is in the pocket, you can't just put your hand in the pocket and adjust the volume...gotta take it out to make sure you are actually pressing a button. Everytime, I feel the need to look at my phone when adjusting the volume, there is no other feedback that you've pressed the buttons. The camera button is great! The first press (of the 2-stage button) is exactly how every single button should feel like. It seems crazy, but this is the single reason that I cannot use the 8x as a long term phone. It's going for sale.
Screen - This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad.
Windows Phone 8 - I absolutely love the design of WP8. There are some gaps and oddities throughout, but I have faith that it will improve. Oddities include: lack of persistent clock and signal indicators (disappears even in People hub and Explorer), lack of independent volume controls (Alarm is cranked all the time). Once I get a proper Dropbox app, I'll be fairly happy. I'm willing to live with a developing OS and ecosystem because of the joy the interface brings me!
Bottom Line - I'm selling it and buying an unlocked Lumia 920. I cannot use a phone with a useless lock button. I've gone back to Bell and tried other devices and all the 8x are the same. Honestly, how can HTC screw up buttons. Samsung tends to have soft buttons too, but at least the placement is on the side for easy access. The Nokia, Apple and LG have figured out the complex world of buttons.
Anyways. This is a wonderful device with a small fatal flaw.
I sadly have to agree on the lock button placement - its placement is less than ideal. I'm not really fussed about the keys being almost flush with the body, but I can imagine people not liking this. It took me a while to get used to the feel myself, but after some practice I only have some trouble with pressing the lock button sometimes.
Its interesting you say that there is no feedback when pressing the buttons? I can definitly feel a "click" when I press my buttons (like the camera button does) so maybe you got unlucky... And I've no flex nor creakyness. I have had the phone for three weeks now I believe, no case used so far!
The only thing I regret is the lack of a SD slot. I'm not sure about the viewing angles, I don't see any problem, nor have I heard friends complain about it. Then again, this is a personal opinion I guess.
But bottom line is that I should have waited for a Nokia myself. Not going to sell this baby, I love it too much for that, but I will gladly get myself a Nokia after this phone is through (which I hope won't happen anytime soon!).
its funny, at first my impression was this.. but now it feels more natural, you actually don't have to hit it to hard, and after having a samsung for a year its refreshing to have a different layout. its almost like a pressure spot, like a place to squeeze the phone and it turns on (if that makes sense) the only thing that bugs me is all three buttons react differently. the lock is more flush than volume, and the camera being a double action is better.
I don't get what you are saying about viewing angle though. I find it more than sufficient (maybe under high glare light cause of the contour) but I love this phone.
my biggest complaint is the notification light that isn't. who puts an led in a phone but does not let it work for notifications.. this is like having a car without windows.. not needed but when it rains you wish you had em'
The power button issue was solved for me by using a case, it has an indent so I immediately know where the power button is. Side buttons have a raised material that also makes it very easy to find the buttons and press without issue.
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uhhdoug, you make a good point about "squeeze" points rather than typical button pushing. I find I do this, basically wrap my finger around the top right and squeeze...usually powering it on.
This device is absolutely lovely otherwise, I could never put it in a case. But usability sucks.
After 1 week... My volume up button is stuck. Not physically, the button still clicks. However, the phone keeps detecting a volume up command. Sending for repair today. Lets see how efficient HTC is.
Same here - power button is a pain in the ass!!! I manage to activate it 1 out of 10 times when using only one hand
I realised that it's easier to use the camera button to bring the screen on and that's what I'm doing since last week.
I've been using mine (a blue one on Telenor, Hungary) for only 3 days so far, but here's my exeperience anyway: the power button doesn't bother me that much, it reminds me of my iPhone 3G I had a few years ago - I do have big hands though. Coming from an Omnia 7 I really like that I don't mistake the volume rocker for the power button (this was a major pain in the butt where I accidentally turned on the screen in my pocket when trying to change the volume).
Compared to the amoled in the Samsung the blacks and the viewing angles kinda suck, but the resolution makes up for them imo.
I see no discolouring/dirt on the corners, but I did get a few random reboots already (still more reliable than my Galaxy Tab with Cyanogen Mod 10 though).
For those interested in the audio quality the 8X sounds awesome with a pair of mid-range cans (Sennheiser HD518), I'd say on par if not better than a last-gen iPod classic. Turning the Beats Eq on the volume goes up to insane levels (20/30 on a subway is perfectly audible with open-back headphones and 30/30 actually hurts my ears after a minute or so). So, while this is by no means in audiophile territory, it is, in my opinion, more than enough for listening on the go.
Also, the device is absolutely gorgeus to look at and feels great in the hand. Oh, and WP8 is beyond awesome
After 1 week i can say is that the phone is great if you ask me.
Power button .....yes bad place.
16G storage .......meh it will manage.
The majority of the good from this phone makes up for those 2 issues.
So no deal breaker here.
Battery ?
Charge ,charge and charge .
After 1 week on the charger and it will preform great.
And i listing more then 4 hours of music, check the web, Facebook and twitter and so on.
At the end of my work day 50% left.
Nothing wrong with that because my one x drained faster ( Stock).
Greetz.
i agree about the power button its struggle, HTC did it even worse on their verizon DNA, not only that the DNA is even taller they placed the power button in the top middle
we have an awesome kernel fix for the One X which is sweep2wake (you sweep the three touch button) an amazing solution we proposed to HTC lets hope they adopt in their upcoming phones
also comparing to my One X, i love the screen but im gutted the view angles are not match, the One X has an amazing screen where the "floating" can be viewed from the most extreme angles without loosing one percent on the blacks, i'm disappointed but its definitely a downgrade form the One X
I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
Diztronic TPU case was a godsend for finding the power button.
Volume and camera buttons are covered but line up ok and cant really tell. Tight fit, thin ,very little added bulk and only makes the phone loose about 1/2 a sexy point. Makes you feel a little better about manhandling this purdy phone too.
I loved mine in some ways but had to return it after a week or so.
It did not pay well with Bluetooth at all..I had problems with my 2011 Corolla and a 2012 Buick Verano. Voice quality was horrible on the Corolla, and music played in slow motion on the Verano.
I also had consistent issues with Netflix and sound problems.
So many apps were missing from the app store...resco radio and most streaming radio apps, and Oregon Trail.
Worst of all is what they did to bing maps. It would was a good and comprehensive feature before that I often used...but it had been neutered and rendered basically useless. I had to pay for Verizon navigation.
I didn't even try syncing my extensive zune collection. So I regretfully went to Android again after having several windows phones . Which is sad because I absolutely love windows phone.
The screen was great, it felt super premium in hand, so many features are beautiful and useful, and best of all no lag! I miss it alot. I loved the previous integration with my zune collection. Did I say the screen was gorgeous lol.
And the Nokia 920 was far too bulky and heavy .
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Well, I officially sold my 8x.
Pains me a little, the overall industrial design was fantastic. WP8 is so refreshing to use and look at.
But, the power button was terrible. Used a couple of devices, all the same. The screen was nice compared to old windows phones, but not compared to other high end phones. I'm on the Nexus 4 now and the screen is superior.
The OS is severely handicapped. I want it to be awesome, but it just is not there yet. I could not be as productive with it. It feels like a step up from a blackberry, but you can't quite do what you need, especially from a productivity standpoint. The OS is fluid, but terribly inefficient. Constant swirling of animations, I just want to get to the app. Multi-tasking is worse than any other smartphone OS and will be worse than BB10 when it ships. Notifications are non-existent. Sure, notifications are coming, but they aren't here now. This doesn't even mention the "app-gap". All these flaws feel larger than life when I wake up to the WP8 alarm in the morning...blaring at full volume because you cannot adjust it.
It is too bad, the 8x is gorgeous. I look forward to trying WP again in the future...
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I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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Its quite bad that you guys are having so many problems with the 8x. I had initial problems with figuring out the buttons but now its more of a muscle memory kind of thing, after you get used to the fact that the finger has to glide by the front of the phone rather than the back of the phone.
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosphy ...
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosophy ...
Migrated from 4 years HD2 using was somehow shocking but acceptable.
"Hand feelig" is very good
Power button may be better but is usable.
I am missing very simple app. to lock the screen (make it black) without touching power button - anybody knows ?
I am very disappointed by the fact that using phone keyboard there is no automatic search through contacts using 3-letters associated with numbers - this was one of the greatest HD2 features- anybody knows how to to it ? Of course I may try to install many diallers but having too many apps on the phone is cumbersome ... :crying: ... I would be gratefull for any suggestions.
Disctionary is great - first time in any phone/pda I used
I have just received my phone from HTC (got it from HTC Elevate) yesterday, so this is my preliminary thoughts.
I think the hardware is great, my unit doesn't have light leaks whatsoever but agree with OP that buttons are too flushed (except for the camera) and my power button is a little loose, so it rattles when I shake the phone. Viewing angle is, I agree, bad. But not a deal breaker for me, as it shifts only in extreme angles. But otherwise, the hardware is great.
as for the OS, I love the look, but I really hate not to be able to have apps that I have in my Desire S. I share photos with my relatives through instagram, and although there is a client app for it, it can't upload. Then comes the music EQ. So used to PowerAMP makes me longing for a great music app like that for my 8X. Don't get me wrong, the audio is good, if not great, but I just find it a little too "boring" and "lifeless" and would like to be able to adjust EQ myself. And then comes the Dropbox problem. As for the OS itself, I really hate not being able to glance at the battery percentage or any other status. I need status bar, I need notification center.
Nevertheless, I think I can live with the OS'es shortcomings, I just hope that with time, it will mature and grow and better itself.
As for the hardware, my only problem is the buttons, but still they are usable and is not really a big deal for me.
How is the camera. I am long time android guy and have an 8x coming to try out. I wanted to try one but the camera is really important to my. My soff rezound with a nice Rom take fantastic pics in most all conditions so that's my baseline.
But I'm going to def give this phone some testing.
I've hit a week with mine, and heres what I can add.
Industrial Design/Durability - "A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds..." - yea, Ive named mine 'sexy beast' because it really is just a beautiful phone. I keep it in my pocket as well, and so far so good. Its also easy to clean off, which surprised me, I didn't expect the back material to wipe down so easily. So for a design and durabilty I give it an A
Build Quality - I haven't had any creaking, or any really noticable flaws, however, there is just one design flaw in mine, but you have to look. Bottom left corner is aprx 1mm higher than upper right corner, but its only noticable if you really look. Otherwise, its running at an A as well for Build Quality.
Usability of Buttons - "I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless." I wouldn't say I have large hands, at least I don't think I do. I have noticed that when I hold the phone in my left hand (my usuall position), the volume buttons fall perfectly between my first finger which rests just below the buttons and my next two fingers, which are able to grasp the sides of the phone without touching the rockers. The camera button then falls between the pinky which also rests just below the button and my two middle fingers. And its an easy slide for me to swing my finger to the power button. When the phone is in a pocket and I am listening to music, I find the volume buttons raised just enough where I can find them inside the pocket, and turn up or down. I haven't had any issues with the buttons, and actually find them better in terms of functionality than the buttons on my old TB. Again, an A
Screen - "This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad." Well, I agree that its truly stunning. Cant believe how crystal clear everything is. And as for angles, the only issue I have is that the screen is so damn good, it reflects too much when viewed at angles! I don't have issues per se seeing the screen, but I have to deal with the reflected element! So give it a B
Windows Phone 8 - I agree that Windows hit this really good! As for a home run, maybe an 'in the park' home run. The persistant clock? I don't seem to have that issue, since my clock is always there, and always correct. I also agree in regards to independent volume. And I would love to put my own sound bites for messaging and other notifications, not be stuck with stock. Playlists too, a real beeaach to set one up! Score a B for the OS, but still love it! Knowing it can get better is a plus.
Bottom Line - Im keeping this bad boy for a long time! If the wife can even say she likes it (first phone of mine she ever said that about) then its a keeper! Overall, I think its a great phone. Battery life is fantastic, its snappy and responsive, its integration with social networks and the ability to customize those is fantastic. Integration with xbox could be more, but I don't think my 'more' is possible! Phone gets a A-, just because I know its gonna get better!
I bought a case from Luvvitt for the S+ Plus and it arrived yesterday. I held the case in my hand and it's definitely smaller across than the LG V20 which I cannot reach across with my thumb when I'm holding it in one hand. Yes, this may all be obvious, but didn't I read that the S8+ had a 6.2" display? Am I missing something about the screen size or phone size that I'm not understanding? I put the case up against the LGV20 and it's not that much bigger than the V20 I have now which is 5.7". I am glad the S8 Plus is narrower, which will make it easier to use one-handed, but the length seems odd to me.
The s8+ is slightly shorter than the V20 and thinner. This is due to the screen aspect ratio.
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The s8+ is almost 5mm narrower, the screen is bigger because its a taller screen, its not 16:9 anymore like the v20 but 18.5:1
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The s8+ is slightly shorter than the V20 and thinner. This is due to the screen aspect ratio.
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I was reading about screen aspect ratio, way too much math. I gave up.
Bigger screen in a small foot print..
The s8+ is slimer and taller the most phones.
I remeber having my s7 edge and note 7. The note felt smaller even tho the screen was a bit bigger.
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... but didn't I read that the S8+ had a 6.2" display? ..
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We cannot use inches as a measurement anymore on these kinds of phones (mi mix, LG g6, Samsung s8/s8+)
Yes it's 6.2" diagonally, but it doesn't matter anymore since it's not 16:9
Due to the aspect ratio it has way less screen realestate compared to other phones using the traditional 16:9 width/height .
Without going into math i can tell you basically it's not like a "regular" 6.2" phone. Using it will be more similar to a 5.7"ish phone in terms of stuff you can have on screen and the width of the phone.
Let nobody tell you different: This is NOT the same as a "normal" 6.2" phone. It doesn't NOT give you a 6.2" phone experience.
This still isn't necessarily bad, you'll get the nicest screen in existence and a phone you can handle with one hand. It's just not comparable to a 6+" phone.
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This still isn't necessarily bad, you'll get the nicest screen in existence and a phone you can handle with one hand. It's just not comparable to a 6+" phone.
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Actually being that tall basically kills your chance for one handed use of things like the notification area and/or indeed reaching the navigation buttons, no?
This is a phablet through and through. The last trully one handed phone Samsung made was S4 ... since then then they breached the 140x70mm "barrier" and we get (got?) devices that are bigger than phones yet smaller than phablets. S8 made the transition to the phablet form almost exclusively.
And I mean that's OK, people want more information at once, ease of use is secondary to that. Apple made a fortune merely by adding 0.7 inches to her phone. But -yeah- one handed use went the way of the dodo , we occasionally use it but only for few things. We mostly use our ... pocketable tablets two handed these days.
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Actually being that tall basically kills your chance for one handed use of things like the notification area and/or indeed reaching the navigation buttons, no?
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Depends on the size and flexibility of your hands as well as where you chose to grip the phone. I use my V20 one handed all the time and its physically a bigger phone. I'm only slightly taller than average.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-display-Whats-the-deal-with-the-new-aspect-ratio_id92777
Heres a nice link to an explanation.
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Depends on the size and flexibility of your hands as well as where you chose to grip the phone. I use my V20 one handed all the time and its physically a bigger phone. I'm only slightly taller than average.
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I assume you're a man. Being taller than average for a man means that you're the 25th percentile (at least 75% of people are smaller than you) so even if true you'd be a minority. However I doubt is true as it is physically impossibly to reach all 4 corners without constantly adjusting your grip. You probably do have some limited one-handed use, but that's not what I mean. That's what I meant (or something close to that): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99m7lebirE
Lastly s8+ has a far taller screen than V20, so even if you were somehow able to reach both upper and lower corners without adjusting your grip, you most possibly wouldn't be able to do the same with S8+
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You probably do have some limited one-handed use, but that's not what I mean. That's what I meant (or something close to that): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99m7lebirE
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The video you linked is not how I hold my phone, the manner in which they hold it is to emphasize their marketing shill, ie if you hold a phone like that you can barely use a tiny phone one handed. Like I said, it depends on where you grip the phone.
All you said was accessing navigation buttons and notification area, which I can easily do 1 handed. I'm not going to one handed type out text or do heavy surfing, but I can quickly check notifications or do light activity one handed with ease. Your refusal to believe me does not change the fact that I can operate the V20 and the S8+ in the manner in which you specified. Next time qualify your ridiculous claims with something more concrete.
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The video you linked is not how I hold my phone, the manner in which they hold it is to emphasize their marketing shill, ie if you hold a phone like that you can barely use a tiny phone one handed. Like I said, it depends on where you grip the phone.
All you said was accessing navigation buttons and notification area, which I can easily do 1 handed. I'm not going to one handed type out text or do heavy surfing, but I can quickly check notifications or do light activity one handed with ease. Your refusal to believe me does not change the fact that I can operate the V20 and the S8+ in the manner in which you specified. Next time qualify your ridiculous claims with something more concrete.
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I don't refuse to believe you, especially since you just accepted that your one handed use is partial, that is exactly what I expected.
One handed phones can do everything in one hand. Motorola Moto X was like that, the first iphones were like that and to those with bigger fingers Galaxy S4 was that ... after that mostly chaos.
S8+ is quite taller than V20, so even partial one handed use is impossible for most people. Which is what I said in my initial post. If they wanted one handed use they should at least tried a more reasonable aspect ratio.
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I don't refuse to believe you, especially since you just accepted that your one handed use is partial, that is exactly what I expected.
One handed phones can do everything in one hand. Motorola Moto X was like that, the first iphones were like that and to those with bigger fingers Galaxy S4 was that ... after that mostly chaos.
S8+ is quite taller than V20, so even partial one handed use is impossible for most people. Which is what I said in my initial post. If they wanted one handed use they should at least tried a more reasonable aspect ratio.
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The s8 plus is .2mm shorter than the V20 as per gsm arena.
I was surprised also actually
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http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/LG-V20,Samsung-Galaxy-S8/phones/10202,10312
heres a visual comparison against the v20
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The s8 plus is .2mm shorter than the V20 as per gsm arena.
I was surprised also actually
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I meant the screen is taller. Even if the device is shorter your fingers have to reach further hence why it is harder to operate despite being a smaller device in overall footprint.
I just received a case for my s8+ and it's about the same height and norrower than my v20.
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Is the Google Pixel 2 XL as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Google Pixel 2 XL is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Google Pixel 2 XL is a beautiful phone.
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I like it. Idk why LG went with the curved glass, but it feels good. The useable screen actually stops where the curve begins. So the curve is just a black bezel. Maybe they're amping up for some sort of Sammy edge in the future? I hope not.
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I'd say 7.5 of 10 on the all black
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I visited Verizon store today and my first impression was pretty good! They only had the black version but it looked nice, better than the original pixel XL. However, there were two things I've noticed. First, the top and bottom bezels aren't symmetrical. Top bezel is definitely larger and it was pretty apparent when using the device. That's personal preference but I didn't like it. Second, are the scratches on the screen. I haven't heard many people mention it but the screen is actually slightly curved like on the Samsung devices but the glass also slopes down on the top and bottom. It's only been on display for a day first but it was already noticably scratched on the bottom bezel, on the "arch".
I went back to the store to take few pictures to illustrate what I'm talking about + curved screen
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I went back to the store to take few pictures to illustrate what I'm talking about + curved screen
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Someone had to of dropped that while putting on display. Those look like scratches from some sort of impact and is why I always use a case! ha
Dang it folks, test the speaker volume and post!
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Dang it folks, test the speaker volume and post!
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I played a video on youtube on max volume for few seconds but did not want to be obnoxious in the store hah. Anyways, speakers sounded very loud and clear, much much better than my Note8 (no surprise).
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Another thing I forgot to mention is that display is much less vibrant than Note 8. Colors are washed out, especially reds. I will try to take few more pictures later today
I liked what I saw today, although I think I'd have preferred a single front facing speaker with a shorter device, but I know people are obsessed with front facing stereo speakers for some reason
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I just want a device with reserve volume not one that I max out for a particular purpose and its not loud enough.
I did the 5X tweak to make both speakers play back and a volume boost flash that worked very well.
I want my Waze to at least get my attention while cruising to a good part of a song .
I like the app drawer is transparent instead of the bright white that the OG Pixel has. Wish the rest of the system followed suit (settings, contacts, msgs and such). Or at least had options.
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Sorry. I was speaking of software, you guys are discussing hardware.
The screen colors looks like this for a more realistic presentation of color, this can be remedied with color mode like Ex kernel color option to add more saturation.
This phone is definitely not a looker. But gonna cover it up anyway and hopefully the bezels wont bother me.
I'm not sure really why it matters to a point. It's just going to be in a case anyway.
LTHorn said:
I'm not sure really why it matters to a point. It's just going to be in a case anyway.
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Well that's true for the back....But the front of the phone still has an aesthetic. There is no doubt there is some unique bezel stuff going on with this phone.
Joppykid said:
Someone had to of dropped that while putting on display. Those look like scratches from some sort of impact and is why I always use a case! ha
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Or it could have been an exchange put on display
Droidforce said:
Or it could have been an exchange put on display
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An exchange on a phone that hadnt been released yet when I said this?
dang it people (would use harsher language but dont want to deal with a ban or fragile persons) STOP going to verizon and judging their crappy demo locked display version as what the phone is going to be like. as for scratches, well DUH, if you ever worked retail, you would already know humans treat stuff thats not theirs like total $#!t! id bet if i drop my phone on my floor it wont get the same dings and scratches these "CUSS"tomers put devices through. dont you dare ask me to drop my phone, im the good "egg daddy" with my devices. id drop my wife before my phone (thats why she doesn't do trust falls while im holding electronics.)
About That Display & Critics
This may be a good opportunity for Google to make a bold move by recalling as necessary all the units for the Pixel 2 XL and rebuild those displays quickly with full screen all around with no black nudges whatsoever surrounding the speakers or anything else like front camera and sensors on these screens as possible, therefore blending in the full display entirely, and achieving likely the thinnest bezels, to kick Apple iPhone X's behind big time!:laugh:
Elle & Moi said:
This may be a good opportunity for Google to make a bold move by recalling as necessary all the units for the Pixel 2 XL and rebuild those displays quickly with full screen all around with no black nudges whatsoever surrounding the speakers or anything else like front camera and sensors on these screens as possible, therefore blending in the full display entirely, and achieving likely the thinnest bezels, to kick Apple iPhone X's behind big time!:laugh:
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Sure, that's a reasonably ridiculous request...
No! That understandingly what is called a wild bold move, indeed. Google won't go bankrupt after that. To the contrary upon the outcome, their shares will culminate more than ever before. Thus with that 'WBM' potential success, they may just become dramatically the number one seed to beat in the smartphone market, after all.
We all know nothing is perfect. So please besides camera issues and ghost touches can we please list and talk about the things we do find negative about this phone. No bashing just true input. My phones on It's way and I don't have it til June 10th but want to know what to expect or look into
Curved display glare
Chinese users reporting issues with pop up camera not working
Dust inside pop up Camera housing
Phone too heavy
Too big
Uneven weight distribution
Piss poor adaptive brightness
Piss poor quality, my device already has abrasions from regular use in a case and gentle use.
The slider for ring, vibrate and silence is easy to move when putting in pocket, the one one the 6t was lot more firm didn't have that issue.
Bluetooth audio crackles (might just be my device)
It is a beast, in isolation not so bad but pick up an S10+ and the Samsung looks and feels small in comparison. Also agree re the distribution
No always on display
No wireless charging
Camera is just ok
No face unlock. Yes I know it does actually have it but IMO popping the camera every time you want to unlock is enough of a hassle for me to not bother
FPS is 2D and not secure (it is though super quick and accurate)
Tap to wake and raise to wake do not always work
I love it though!
Good:
Love the display and curved edge
finger print sensor is fast
haptic vibration is amazing
speakers sound great
Oxygen OS is great
unlocking the bootloader/rooting/MSM download tool lets me customise this device without worry
bad:
I think it's too big for my hands
camera quality is just okay (I think it's the same quality as my OnePlus 6)
If I'm honest, using things like Snapchat and messenger, the photos are amazing. It just using the camera app it's ****house.
Size is good, vibration motor is good. Sound is good. Screen is amazing. Seems any issue I have is really a software update away from a fix...
Screen glare.
Phone tooooo heavy.
Battery is not better than the 6T
The curved screen isn't horrible. Didn't think I'd ever get a phone with a curved screen, but, the curve is to much that it curves in the normal screen area. Needs to be a more subtle curve.
Adaptive brightness isn't as bad as some people say on my phone but it certainly can be improved.
Battery is amazing. I'm getting at least 20% increased sot then my OnePlus 6. This is with auto res, 90hz and screen on auto brightness.
Too big, too heavy not for me.
The pop up camera I do not see as problem, rarely use it.
The curved display is annoying more than once screen elements I need to interact with were on the edge. "annoying not a deal breaker"
Same thing about Qi charging not having it is "annoying but not a deal breaker"
My biggest problem is not the size of the phone but the thickness.
If it was the same thickness as my S10+ and maybe a tad lighter it would feel so much better in the hand.
Don't get complaints about it being too big. It's a big phone and bigger than the 6t, pixel etc. You would have known that before purchasing. Like me buying a pixel 3a and complaining it's too small ...
But I wouldn't buy it because I know it's a small phone ?
Pros
Screen is AMAZING!
Battery Life is awesome!
90hz!
Better additions to stock Android!
Multiple options for gestures!
Drawing gestures are 100%!
Cons
Updates are very slow to roll out and we are always the last to receive them. (T-Mobile variant)
Rare accidental touches on the edge.
Camera resolution is overall OK. (Coming from my Pixel 3 XL, this really isn't a fair comparison)
Dialer app is not as good as the Pixel 3.
Dual stereo speakers could be a better.
Accessories are very expensive.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Don't get complaints about it being too big. It's a big phone and bigger than the 6t, pixel etc. You would have known that before purchasing. Like me buying a pixel 3a and complaining it's too small ...
But I wouldn't buy it because I know it's a small phone ?
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Agreed.
Complaining about size and weight is useless. These were known. Curved screen yep. Don't complain.
The glare from the curved edge is an issue in some cases.
I don't have any real complaints.
I'm a realist and nothing is perfect, definitely not tech related products.
Loving all the input but for those who day heavy what phones are you coming from? I have a LG g6 ATM and with the case I use more often than any other case it weighs in at 226g so ok think that the OP7 pro wouldn't be that much heavier with a decent case on it. I'm mostly upgrading cause ALWAYS wanted a OP device on Verizon but the 6T just didn't sit with me well. Also I was going to buy a $300+ tablet for my photo editing but I figured the OP7 pro is large enough and better use of funds.
This phones adaptive brightness is meh.
When it hits ultra high brightness it can appear washed out.
The haptic motor is still meh.
Otherwise a great phone.
sad adaptive brightness (should be fixed with software)
screen could be a bit brighter when outside.
stereo speakers sound better than my pixel 2 xl
camera is good but not as good as my pixel 2 xl
small things, nothing serious. I love this phone and its the best phone overall that ive ever owned. To each their own though right? Something could be blatantly wrong with it or (what a lot of us do) if look for things to be wrong with the phone. No phone is perfect. There never will be, otherwise companies would go out of business.
I still rock the 6t, but have you guys noticed any difference in the camera after the software update "camera fix" on the 7plus?. In quotes because we all know OP has awful "fixes"
I like that it's big phone.
I don't have ladyboi hands so the phone is perfect for me. In fact I even have a bulky case on it which makes it even better.
As far as the camera goes... I have a Sony a7r iii for pictures. I will probably never even use the camera on the phone.
People that buy a "phone" and piss about not being able to take glamor shots with it are annoying.
I do play games though and I can definitely tell the difference between this device and my 6T. The 7Pro plays all my games amazingly.
I run 2 businesses with this device and have zero hiccups.
I don't have ghost touches.
I don't have a problem with curved screens.
Is it perfect?
Good enough for me.
Maybe not for you.
bp328i said:
My biggest problem is not the size of the phone but the thickness.
If it was the same thickness as my S10+ and maybe a tad lighter it would feel so much better in the hand.
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This is Rich as over the last couple years people have been screaming to make the phone a bit thicker to accommodate a larger battery as they'd rather have more battery life. Now people are b!tching about A SLIGHTLY thicker phone with a larger battery and it's only thicker by roughly 1mm!?!?
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This is Rich as over the last couple years people have been screaming to make the phone a bit thicker to accommodate a larger battery as they'd rather have more battery life. Now people are b!tching about A SLIGHTLY thicker phone with a larger battery and it's only thicker by roughly 1mm!?!?
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And yet the S10+ has a bigger battery.