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So...I see a lot of people saying/complaining they can't use Google Music because they are outside of the US.
There are tons of tutorials out there on how to get it in the beta stage (via invite) but since the launch today, those don't work as efficiently because the invites are gone.
Here is how I got it to work for someone else tonight...I am sharing it with everyone so hopefully it'll help some people out (sticky if someone asks?)
Some of these steps will look similar to the beta version for this...but this is the only way I could SPECIFICALLY get it to work (other proxies/methods seem to not be reliable)
Step 1:
Download Tor Browser (https://www.torproject.org/index.html.en)
Step 2:
After extraction...click "Start Tor Browser.exe"...give it a few seconds while it properly connects to a proxy and such. It should automatically connect to a US proxy (go to whatismyipaddress.com to check where it has connected. If it hasn't, you can disconnect and try again OR change the settings so that it does connect to a US proxy (a number of guides are online on how to do this)
Step 3:
go to google.music.com ...and sign in with your regular account. Click accept on any terms and service and acknowledge that you are going to a secure site (or something to that nature). You will get a few errors after you sign in since the browser limits a lot of executions from websites. On the main google music page, just click on the "S" with the dash through it on the lower left hand side (under "playlists"...click on "ok" for the next pop up.
Step 4:
Click on "UPLOAD MUSIC"...then download the music manager. Install the music manager and just for brevity's sake, select a folder with very few songs in it to upload (so that you can get started right away)
Step 5:
Once it's done uploading, click on "home" under My Library and voilà..your songs should be there. After this, you NEVER need the Tor browser again...any time you log in to music.google.com, it should work on your regular browser because it acknowledges you uploaded songs...but if you click on "shop" to shop for some music, it will still block you because of the browser's limits...read on to get by that
OPTIONAL:
Download the google music apk (I've attached it to thise post) from these forums in order to sync with your device
NOW the fun part...getting to the Google Music store and getting some songs!
Step 6:
install hotspot shield. google it to find it...some people say this only half works for them as a VPN...but it's worked on every computer i've tried and is one of the few VPN's that will give you full functionality in a browser
Step 7:
connect to hotspot shield and use the browser of your choice (chrome, firefox, IE all work with my tests)
Step 8:
go to music.google.com...log into your account. Click on "shop". You will now be sent to the music area of the google market. Very fun.
Step 9:
This is the easiest way for the free songs...just go to any free song, click to buy it ("free" button)..and it'll ask you to log in a few times probably. It will then ask you for a credit card..put in a real credit card number (preferably yours) and whatever address you want. Just pick a US state and a valid zip code in that state (google whatever area you want). The address does not have to match the credit card for free songs. You are then given the option to complete your purchase...and then it goes through and syncs with your google music account automatically. Very sharp feature...Google is amazing.
Now the only caveat or thing you might be wondering..."what about songs that actually cost something?"...damn you for noticing the only thing i didn't cover!
The only way to bypass this is to buy, via online, a US visa or mastercard gift card that you can either reload or purchase once and throw away and then use that card to purchase the songs.
So there you go...a very nearly full functional use of google music....let me know what you think and if it's helped you out. Feel free to share the guide...but give reps my few hours of playing with proxies/tests to get it all working in one swoop. Thank you/gracias/merci
Edit: I've now attached the APK that some have requested..I know it was posted here and there...but at least this makes it a bit more of a "one stop shop" for the guide
I heard that it's coming to the European market soon.
Looks like a great guide, and I guess it works for some, but I'm sad to say it didn't for me. The moment i sign in to music.google.com it says "We're sorry. Google Music is currently only available in the United States" even though I'm going there in Tor. Tried with Hotspot Shield enabled too.
I am in Norway.
Thanks though
edit: Ah, the problem seems to be that Tor is using an UK proxy instead of an US one. How can I change this?
edit2: I did it! Followed this guide to make it only use US proxies: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/8225-how-get-us-ip-addresses-tor.html
Thank you, great guide
Great guide....but waaay too mych hassle. Specially for paid music.
I'll just wait for the EU version
Shape up, Google!
Well, you need an american credit card to download the free songs, dang... :-/
Its an awesome thing...I absolutely praise such an exclusive launch of music beta by google. However, initially i found it really difficult to get it as it is only accessible from USA which i think is unjustified for the rest of the world. One of my friend told me about the vpn services. And after acquiring vpn services i am ablt to use google music outside usa
has anyone got the newest google music 4.9.00 apk syncing with the google servers outside of the usa?
somewall - the apk that is in this forum (in the same general category) works fine for me and others say that it has worked for them
andevin - thanks for the head's up...i'll make a note of it
for the credit card thing for the free songs...you do not necessarily need a US credit card.
I used mine (not an american credit card) and it worked fine...I just filled in the rest of the stuff...but for the city, i googled an american city (let's say...new york) and used that city, state, and zip code
when you go to purchase a song...it'll say "verifying" or "processing" and it'll purchase the free song regardless
to purchase actual songs that are not free, i will re-emphasize that you need a visa/mastercard gift credit card for it to work
hope this helps!
p.s. i now attached the google music APK to the original guide
truthlesshero said:
to purchase actual songs that are not free, i will re-emphasize that you need a visa/mastercard gift credit card for it to work
hope this helps!
p.s. i now attached the google music APK to the original guide
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Sorry but here in Brazil i could buy song with a standard international credit card (santander mastercard). The only stuff i have to bring up here is that it only worked when i was connect by hotspot shield. On normal connection it says not avaliable for my country, still.. even free or payed songs.
cpaixao said:
Sorry but here in Brazil i could buy song with a standard international credit card (santander mastercard). The only stuff i have to bring up here is that it only worked when i was connect by hotspot shield. On normal connection it says not avaliable for my country, still.. even free or payed songs.
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how did you enter the CC address information?
it only allows you to choose USA addresses
I didn't even bother with tor I just installed hotspotshield, went to music.google.com and registered, installed the uploader and now don't need proxy for general use.
Haven't tried registering my card details so can't say how that works.
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AllGamer said:
how did you enter the CC address information?
it only allows you to choose USA addresses
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I used US adress as well. Dont had any problem with it. But my credit card is not registred on US. Its has been acquire in Brazil, as international standard, so billing information is brazillian too, not american.
Great. Thanks for sharing!
Great guide, it worked for me and I'm in the Caribbean!! Many thanks.
any good free music worth getting?
i don't want to grab every single free song, else i'll hit the 20 000 max very soon, as my personal library is close to 15 000
i picked up most of the time limited POP, ROCK, LATIN, and some 80s/90s stuff, and some world, some instrumental...
BUG & "fix"
if you have 2 or more Google Music account like I do
the Google Music App will not let you switch to another account the easy way
the work around is to use Titanium Backup and Wipe Data for Google Music
or you can do uninstall / reinstall
then it will let you pick through the welcome wizard again which Google Account you want to use for Google Music
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You sir, are a legend!
anyone who is having trouble changing to a US proxy.
check out this guide.
http://www.ghacks.net/2008/01/29/configure-tor-to-use-a-specific-country-as-an-exit-node/
Does anyone know why it's only available in the US? I wouldn't want to risk my Google account over getting it early. Also for those saying that it will be in the EU soon, I've seen no reliable source stating this; in fact I'm mainly reading that there's currently no time frame on release outside the US.
To get the free songs you do NOT need to enter any cc information. Songs get added to your google-account.
I don't think that you'll get problems with google. Google would like to sell songs through their store worldwide. just the drm's rights-holder making problems in lots of countries.
now we just need to get google to accept cc from all over the world. damn google, why didn't you just implement that feature.
Hello.
I decided to give WP7 one more try. I tried it before Mango was relased. I live in Danmark and I noticed that there are not so many interesting apps in Danish Marketplace. So i wanted to ask if there are other apps in other Marketplace regions e.g. if i change the region to US will there be more avaible apps? If yes which Marketplace region has most apps?
Regards
okeyus
okeyus, that is just a matter of time. Same thing about the brazilian marketplace, which had nothing worthy when introduced but is now growing steadily.
In the meantime you can create a "foreign" Live ID, ie, another one which is set up to some other region, such as USA. You'll have to hard reset your phone to change your primary ID (the first ID set up on your phone controls which marketplace you'll access). After that you can add your main ID to retrieve your contacts, email, etc.
The only drawback with this method is that you can't buy anything - the country is pre-selected whenever you're going to add your credit card details and can't be changed; if you proceed, the purchase will fail because the card info won't match. You can, however, download any free or trial apps you want.
I know that. I have an US account which I created when I installed WP7 for the first time. But now i wanted to check how does Marketplace looks in Danmark and i didn't know if it's worth to switch to the US region again. I installed some apps, customized WP7 and just didn't wanted to do it again if Marketplace would be the same for US as for DK. So you are saying that at this moment there are most apps in the US Marketplace?
The other drawback is that I will not be able to use Messenger in the Messaging tab if i chose my US account. I read that the included Messenger in the Messaging tab is only for your main account. So if i have my MSN on my Danish account and I will use US account as primary one I will not be able to use that MSN tab from Danish account. (Pretty confusing but i didn't know how to explain that)
You can download an app called "Local Market Search", which will let you see the apps in other marketplaces. You won't, however, be able to download an app which is not available for your current marketplace.
The US marketplace was the first one so, yes, I believe it is the one that has the most apps. However, that is just a matter of time, as I believe there is no incentive for a developer to not sell their apps on more marketplaces.
Just did it and i must say that I'm impressed. There are a lot more apps. Im gonna stay on WP7 now. I didn't knew that there is so big difference between WP7 and WP7 Mango. It's just so much better and more user friendly now. I'm very impressed.
Anyway big thanks for the advice!
I'm not sure... Have you updated to Mango or not? If not, then you should immediately or as soon as possible Lots of new features. Plus there's another update in the works (Tango, I believe). It'll get better every time.
Yes, I am on Mango. That's what i said. I have tried WP7 before Mango was relased and i didn't liked it. But now with all the Mango features it's just awesome and fits me perfectly. That's why i said that I will stay on Mango. But i like games from Android and have only 4GB card so i just ordered 16GB class 10 card so I can use WP7 daily and Android with lots of games when i need it
So I get my phone bill, and note that there are 4 sms messages to Chinese phone number 8615012811576 all on one day.
I don't remember intentionally texting a phone number in China, so am wondering if an app would do this for some sort of sign-in or somesuch, a trojan, or what.
Searching the internet tells me nothing about this number so I guess it's not happening to others.
A week before there was an sms to a UK number, but it was easy to learn online that MIUI Cloud account does that when one installs MIUI, which I did then, for a few minutes of trial run.
The Chinese numbers were texted while I used a recent LOS N derivative, so unlikely it was the ROM--I'm more wondering if one of my apps would have done it, and perplexed that the number isn't already spoken of on the web.
Oh..., I remember reading that QuickPic started sending data after they were bought by Cheetah Mobile. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Maybe I uninstalled it/installed Piktures/uninstalled Piktures/reinstalled QuickPic right about then. That would have been because QuickPic can Wifi Direct with itself on other devices, and I don't know any other gallery that will do that, among some other nice features.
So now installed the "Pre" Cheetah version. Dunno if that was the case, but will keep eyes open.
pbergonzi said:
So I get my phone bill, and note that there are 4 sms messages to Chinese phone number 8615012811576 all on one day.
I don't remember intentionally texting a phone number in China, so am wondering if an app would do this for some sort of sign-in or somesuch, a trojan, or what.
Searching the internet tells me nothing about this number so I guess it's not happening to others.
A week before there was an sms to a UK number, but it was easy to learn online that MIUI Cloud account does that when one installs MIUI, which I did then, for a few minutes of trial run.
The Chinese numbers were texted while I used a recent LOS N derivative, so unlikely it was the ROM--I'm more wondering if one of my apps would have done it, and perplexed that the number isn't already spoken of on the web.
Oh..., I remember reading that QuickPic started sending data after they were bought by Cheetah Mobile. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Maybe I uninstalled it/installed Piktures/uninstalled Piktures/reinstalled QuickPic right about then. That would have been because QuickPic can Wifi Direct with itself on other devices, and I don't know any other gallery that will do that, among some other nice features.
So now installed the "Pre" Cheetah version. Dunno if that was the case, but will keep eyes open.
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By phone bill you meant Carrier bill,right?
Mr.Ak said:
By phone bill you meant Carrier bill,right?
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No, I meant "phone bill." That's what a bill from a carrier is typically called in the states. It's a carry-over from days of yore, when these things were called "phones", and the people that provided the services through the long wires were called "phone companies." It was much like having one's own private telegraph system in one's home, but a telegraph that worked with a voice instead of a manually operated electromagnetic switch.
pbergonzi said:
No, I meant "phone bill." That's what a bill from a carrier is typically called in the states. It's a carry-over from days of yore, when these things were called "phones", and the people that provided the services through the long wires were called "phone companies." It was much like having one's own private telegraph system in one's home, but a telegraph that worked with a voice instead of a manually operated electromagnetic switch.
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It is better to have prepaid than postpaid.
Scan with a reputable anti-malware product (I suggest trend micro premium or Sophos free). Enable Google Play Protect on your phone as well.
iprasad said:
Scan with a reputable anti-malware product (I suggest trend micro premium or Sophos free). Enable Google Play Protect on your phone as well.
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Way to go with those antiviruses. They must be one of the worsts available.
But the idea was right.
I would suggest F-secure or Malwarebytes for Android.
pahapoika91 said:
Way to go with those antiviruses. They must be one of the worsts available.
But the idea was right.
I would suggest F-secure or Malwarebytes for Android.
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I just had to laugh at the immaturity and lack of knowledge.
F-Secure had one of the LOWEST scores in the recent android test performed by av-test (one of the leading test institutes).
I recommended trend micro because getting an original premium license is one of the cheapest (in UK atleast) while Sophos is a great choice if one is going for free. Cheetah was tested but had a lower score while Malwarebytes was not tested.
I DONT want to start the "mine is better than yours" type of thread so see for yourself:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/mobile-devices/
I don't think that on Android any antivirus solutions are necessary. Check your user apps. Which one has the permission to send SMS? A gallery app doesn't need the permission to send SMS to do her job. Most users install apps and don't care about permissions.
Also try to use open source apps (preferable from F-Droid). They are more secure.
The greatest security breach is mostly the user.
I've been trying to log into Huawei's community forums for a while, but no matter what I try, it results in an error page. It's the most extraordinarily frustrating experience. I wonder if anyone else has any tips to getting logged in.
My main reason for wanting to log in, apart from having a general look for tips, etc, is to find out how to inform them of a bug in their OS. Does anyone have any recommendations for how best to do that?
In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .
James_Watson said:
In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .
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Well, that's very civilised of you. I'll write in English, since that's the only language I know
Actually, I have three bugs - well, I think they're bugs, except, perhaps, for the first one.
1. This one isn't really a bug, but I bet the people on the Huawei forums can help.
FYI, I use a sim card from CMLink - SIM #1 [1], which piggy back off EE in the UK, and CMCC in China, and provide useful roaming plans for use between the two countries. They only provide data plans limited by the month, and I have signed up for their 22GB plan. To track usage, I have a P10 and have been trying to set it up to automatically calibrate the data usage measure on a daily basis. I think it does this by sending an SMS containing simply 'Check' to CMCC's service number '10086', and extracts the data from the response (not 100% sure about that, but hey). There seems to be a 'calibrate' button in the settings to do this manually (under the usage graph), but when I try I get the message 'Incorrect network provider. Reselect and try again.' I'd really like to get this going.
2. Related to above, I've set the setting to show the usage under the notifications when you drag down from the top of the screen. I've configured my plan information - ie 22GB per month, and starts on the 17th of each month. However, while the 'Today' seems to increase appropriately, the 'Left' is stuck at the maximum. I imagine the 'Total' is supposed to stay at 22GB. I expect the 'Left' to go down as I use it throughout the month.
3. This one is unrelated to above. If I open a browser and go to my web mail site, there is an option on the menu to 'Add to Home screen'. As expected, when I select that option, it does add an icon to the homescreen. Since it is something I want on every page of the homescreen, I drag that icon onto the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. I do that for a couple of web pages - my email and my calendar. At this point, it all works swimmingly. However, if I reboot the phone, then those icons seem to be moved back onto the homescreen, and also are 'greyed out' and placed under the clocks (the clock widget) I have placed there. So, that's not 'expected'.
What do you think?
Max.
Device info:
Model: VTR-AL00
Build number: 9.1.0.201 (C00E75R1P12patch02) GPU Turbo
EMUI version: 9.1.0
Android version: 9
Android security patch: 1 August 2019
Kernel version: 4.9.148
Network (I selected things that might be helpful):
SIM 1 (my UK CMLink SIM): China Mobile, LTE, SMS centre number - a UK number
SIM 2 (my Chinese CMCC SIM): China Mobile, EDGE, SMS centre number - a China number
[1] ...and also a 2nd one, SIM 2, which is a local SIM
James_Watson said:
In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .
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You could also, if you would be so kind, help me fix my problems logging into the Huawei community forums...
davidmaxwaterman said:
You could also, if you would be so kind, help me fix my problems logging into the Huawei community forums...
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What's your question about logging into that forum?
But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
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davidmaxwaterman said:
Well, that's very civilised of you. I'll write in English, since that's the only language I know
Actually, I have three bugs - well, I think they're bugs, except, perhaps, for the first one.
1. This one isn't really a bug, but I bet the people on the Huawei forums can help.
FYI, I use a sim card from CMLink - SIM #1 [1], which piggy back off EE in the UK, and CMCC in China, and provide useful roaming plans for use between the two countries. They only provide data plans limited by the month, and I have signed up for their 22GB plan. To track usage, I have a P10 and have been trying to set it up to automatically calibrate the data usage measure on a daily basis. I think it does this by sending an SMS containing simply 'Check' to CMCC's service number '10086', and extracts the data from the response (not 100% sure about that, but hey). There seems to be a 'calibrate' button in the settings to do this manually (under the usage graph), but when I try I get the message 'Incorrect network provider. Reselect and try again.' I'd really like to get this going.
2. Related to above, I've set the setting to show the usage under the notifications when you drag down from the top of the screen. I've configured my plan information - ie 22GB per month, and starts on the 17th of each month. However, while the 'Today' seems to increase appropriately, the 'Left' is stuck at the maximum. I imagine the 'Total' is supposed to stay at 22GB. I expect the 'Left' to go down as I use it throughout the month.
3. This one is unrelated to above. If I open a browser and go to my web mail site, there is an option on the menu to 'Add to Home screen'. As expected, when I select that option, it does add an icon to the homescreen. Since it is something I want on every page of the homescreen, I drag that icon onto the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. I do that for a couple of web pages - my email and my calendar. At this point, it all works swimmingly. However, if I reboot the phone, then those icons seem to be moved back onto the homescreen, and also are 'greyed out' and placed under the clocks (the clock widget) I have placed there. So, that's not 'expected'.
What do you think?
Max.
Device info:
Model: VTR-AL00
Build number: 9.1.0.201 (C00E75R1P12patch02) GPU Turbo
EMUI version: 9.1.0
Android version: 9
Android security patch: 1 August 2019
Kernel version: 4.9.148
Network (I selected things that might be helpful):
SIM 1 (my UK CMLink SIM): China Mobile, LTE, SMS centre number - a UK number
SIM 2 (my Chinese CMCC SIM): China Mobile, EDGE, SMS centre number - a China number
[1] ...and also a 2nd one, SIM 2, which is a local SIM
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Your three question are really confused and difficult to understand for me as I never used a CMLink sim card.
But I will try my best to get to know your situations and help you as more as I can.
First, let's clarify your 3rd question.
On my Huawei phone, there are at most 5 icons on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. Every icon here for apps on my device works fine even if I reboot my device. So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Try to drag an icon of another app or widget there. Check if it will work well, please.
> I never used a CMLink sim card
I don't think there's anything special about the CMLink, except that it works in either country pretty much the same as the other. It is the same as any other SIM card with a monthly limited data plan. So, you could consider that it is the same as a Chinese SIM card, I suppose.
> So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Well, I guess I don't know exactly what the problem is, of course. My impression is that they hadn't considered this use-case much at all - I notice the Huawei browser doesn't have this 'add to homescreen' functionality at all.
However, you prompted me to experiment a bit more, and it doesn't happen with all web pages. Previously, I had my email and calendar on there, and they both were moved back onto the homescreen underneath other icons/widgets and greyed out (and didn't actually work to launch the web pages). However, now, the calendar page does seem to stay on there, and works when I click it. I also have tried both Chrome and Brave, and they both seem to show the same problem. I can't really see how it could be a web page problem, since nothing is being launched. I suppose it could be a web *manifest* problem, since that is where the icons usually come from...though looking in chrome devtools, I see that it has no manifest, and so the icons must be taken from the <meta> in <head>. The calendar, which does seem to be staying on the quick launch bar, also doesn't have a manifest file - so not that then.
It's pretty easy to reproduce though:
1. open your browser (chrome, probably) on https://www.fastmail.fm/
2. click on the menu and select 'Add to homescreen'
3. 'Add' on the dialog
4. 'ADD on the next dialog
5. go to the homescreen and locate the shortcut
6. drag and drop it onto the quick launch bar.
7. restart
Well, that's frustrating - I was writing those down as I did them, and when I restarted, it looked fine :/ I wonder if it makes any difference which position the icons are in on...ah, yeah, it looks like it is more reproducible if the shortcut is the left-most. Arghh. This time I lost a *native* app I had on there too - WeChat of all things - you'd imagine they'd make sure that works fine. Actually, it wasn't the WeChat app I had on there, but a shortcut to one of the contacts - you can add a wechat contact from the menu on their item in the wechat contacts list - 'Add to Desktop' it is in English. Hrm I notice that, while the web page shortcuts get moved back onto the homescreen, the WeChat contact shortcut is just gone....and I can't even add it again from WeChat - it says it is, but nothing appears :/
Gosh, it's really a bit of a mess. Perhaps it's too broken and inconsistent to even bother filing any bug. I'm tempted to apply for a job there to try and help, but in any case, I can't see too many Westerners being happy with such issues I suppose Chinese people just don't do this sort of thing.
> What's your question about logging into that forum?
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> But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
> Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
Well, the question is where I can get help with logging in - but, if it is all in Chinese, I would modify my question to be: where can I find forums that are in English, and corresponding community support? Since there is a huge market for English speakers, I imagine they have somewhere for us to learn how to use it, and ask questions and report problems, etc?
davidmaxwaterman said:
> What's your question about logging into that forum?
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> But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
> Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
Well, the question is where I can get help with logging in - but, if it is all in Chinese, I would modify my question to be: where can I find forums that are in English, and corresponding community support? Since there is a huge market for English speakers, I imagine they have somewhere for us to learn how to use it, and ask questions and report problems, etc?
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Yes, your requirement is very reasonable.
When I posted some questions about mobile phone usage here, there would be someone would replied to my thread and tried to get more detailed info to help me. They said they were the Huawei official staff.
I will post a thread about "where for you to ask questions and report problems in English" for you soon.
On the other hand, you can access the forum either via web application (mobile web as well as computer web) or via an official app. You can also try the app. If you need it and can not find the apk, I will show you the link.
James_Watson said:
Yes, your requirement is very reasonable.
When I posted some questions about mobile phone usage here, there would be someone would replied to my thread and tried to get more detailed info to help me. They said they were the Huawei official staff.
I will post a thread about "where for you to ask questions and report problems in English" for you soon.
On the other hand, you can access the forum either via web application (mobile web as well as computer web) or via an official app. You can also try the app. If you need it and can not find the apk, I will show you the link.
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Thanks. I look forward to finding out if there is a forum for English language users somewhere. I do kind of feel like they could spend more attention to this requirement, unless, of course, I'm just not looking hard enough. I remember when I was using a ZTE phone - they were very popular due to having front-facing speakers, and so had a pretty good US based forum and it was very useful. [Side note - I wish Huawei would produce a phone with front-facing speakers].
I don't think an app will get me very far...I probably have it on my phone already - I see one called 'HiCare', for example, and there's the top line on the settings. It's all very unfamiliar and things so often don't seem to quite work as expected. I kind of wish the Huawei stores had 'help' sessions like they do (or did anyway) in Apple stores.
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> I never used a CMLink sim card
I don't think there's anything special about the CMLink, except that it works in either country pretty much the same as the other. It is the same as any other SIM card with a monthly limited data plan. So, you could consider that it is the same as a Chinese SIM card, I suppose.
> So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Well, I guess I don't know exactly what the problem is, of course. My impression is that they hadn't considered this use-case much at all - I notice the Huawei browser doesn't have this 'add to homescreen' functionality at all.
However, you prompted me to experiment a bit more, and it doesn't happen with all web pages. Previously, I had my email and calendar on there, and they both were moved back onto the homescreen underneath other icons/widgets and greyed out (and didn't actually work to launch the web pages). However, now, the calendar page does seem to stay on there, and works when I click it. I also have tried both Chrome and Brave, and they both seem to show the same problem. I can't really see how it could be a web page problem, since nothing is being launched. I suppose it could be a web *manifest* problem, since that is where the icons usually come from...though looking in chrome devtools, I see that it has no manifest, and so the icons must be taken from the <meta> in <head>. The calendar, which does seem to be staying on the quick launch bar, also doesn't have a manifest file - so not that then.
It's pretty easy to reproduce though:
1. open your browser (chrome, probably) on https://www.fastmail.fm/
2. click on the menu and select 'Add to homescreen'
3. 'Add' on the dialog
4. 'ADD on the next dialog
5. go to the homescreen and locate the shortcut
6. drag and drop it onto the quick launch bar.
7. restart
Well, that's frustrating - I was writing those down as I did them, and when I restarted, it looked fine :/ I wonder if it makes any difference which position the icons are in on...ah, yeah, it looks like it is more reproducible if the shortcut is the left-most. Arghh. This time I lost a *native* app I had on there too - WeChat of all things - you'd imagine they'd make sure that works fine. Actually, it wasn't the WeChat app I had on there, but a shortcut to one of the contacts - you can add a wechat contact from the menu on their item in the wechat contacts list - 'Add to Desktop' it is in English. Hrm I notice that, while the web page shortcuts get moved back onto the homescreen, the WeChat contact shortcut is just gone....and I can't even add it again from WeChat - it says it is, but nothing appears :/
Gosh, it's really a bit of a mess. Perhaps it's too broken and inconsistent to even bother filing any bug. I'm tempted to apply for a job there to try and help, but in any case, I can't see too many Westerners being happy with such issues I suppose Chinese people just don't do this sort of thing.
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1. About CMLink, okay, I just posted a thread for you to Huawei community about how to report issue about Huawei phone usage for those speak English. Wait for their response, please.
2. Now I have gotten to know the feature 'Add to Home Screen'. In my Firefox Focus browser, I found it. I will have a try soon.
James_Watson said:
1. About CMLink, okay, I just posted a thread for you to Huawei community about how to report issue about Huawei phone usage for those speak English. Wait for their response, please.
2. Now I have gotten to know the feature 'Add to Home Screen'. In my Firefox Focus browser, I found it. I will have a try soon.
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Awesome. That's very cool of you, thanks Maybe I'll try Firefox too...
Max.
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Awesome. That's very cool of you, thanks Maybe I'll try Firefox too...
Max.
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I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then selected 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
Btw, it's time to home for me. I will try to help you tomorrow. Would you like to support my apps available on Google Play? Thanks in advance.
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I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then select 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
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Ah, I hit this too. I suspect it is simply that you need to grant the app permissions to add to homescreen in the phone's settings in the Apps->permissions...or somewhere like that.
It's a bit odd that they don't get this automatically...I never had this issue with Google Android phones.
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I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then selected 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
Btw, it's time to home for me. I will try to help you tomorrow. Would you like to support my apps available on Google Play? Thanks in advance.
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You are right. I granted the app permission 'add to homescreen' to Firefox Focus, and then tried the feature again.
The function works well. Even after rebooting, the icon is still there on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. So, I misunderstood that feature.
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You are right. I granted the app permission 'add to homescreen' to Firefox Focus, and then tried the feature again.
The function works well. Even after rebooting, the icon is still there on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. So, I misunderstood that feature.
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Cool. It seems like it might be working better for you than for me. I've not tried firefox yet, but chrome and brave both seem to lose any shortcuts on the quick launch bar, but not always. It is also quite curious what has happened to the shortcut from wechat...since that's a native android app :/
Perhaps you're on a more recent Android/EMUI version? What kind of phone are you using?
TBH, I'm seriously considering the P30 Pro 5G when I get back to the UK, and this is sort of a test run with a hand-me-down phone which I presume is very similar in UI/UX, so it is all 'influencing' my decision.
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Cool. It seems like it might be working better for you than for me. I've not tried firefox yet, but chrome and brave both seem to lose any shortcuts on the quick launch bar, but not always. It is also quite curious what has happened to the shortcut from wechat...since that's a native android app :/
Perhaps you're on a more recent Android/EMUI version? What kind of phone are you using?
TBH, I'm seriously considering the P30 Pro 5G when I get back to the UK, and this is sort of a test run with a hand-me-down phone which I presume is very similar in UI/UX, so it is all 'influencing' my decision.
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In fact, my phone is an old model, Mate 8 with EMUI/Android 8.0. I also have a wechat installed on my device.
Btw, would you like to leave a 5-star for my app which is available on Google Play? Thanks.
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In fact, my phone is an old model, Mate 8 with EMUI/Android 8.0. I also have a wechat installed on my device.
Btw, would you like to leave a 5-star for my app which is available on Google Play? Thanks.
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LOL, well I would be happy to, except I don't have Google Play on my phone...or Google anything, I think....except Chrome, of course. I'm a web app developer, so I prefer to use web apps than native android apps.
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LOL, well I would be happy to, except I don't have Google Play on my phone...or Google anything, I think....except Chrome, of course. I'm a web app developer, so I prefer to use web apps than native android apps.
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I posted a thread in that forum for you yesterday. https://club.huawei.com/thread-21560821-1-1.html
But till now, I have not gotten any response. So, I sent a PM to the ADMIN just now.
You may try to log in the web app or the native app for the community forum. There you might post a thread in English as your device language is English. Have a try, please. Good luck to you.
Yesterday, I managed to contact the CEO of Huawei Consumer Business Group, Richard Yu, through his social network account. But till now I have not gotten his reply to my PM.
I suggest you post your issues on the Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/ . Good luck to you.
Google drive? and storage.
So I've been utilising Huawei cloud for the past 6 weeks, Please see my previous post 6 weeks deep.
Looking at the eco system and the easy sync of the kit its crazy, So i've logged into my Huawei tab & logged my wife in for
the experimental purpose to see how it syncs and well i'm not disappointed.
being able to see my devices, previous and being able to delete the back ups off that is class (obviously as i know longer need it)
but if i did i could restore. i also took advantage of the 50gb free initially when i got my handset, Not sure whether that's still on?
my wife is looking to upgrade & she will want it and its free she'll be all over it lol
features I've seen are the option to auto back up my gallery (takes away the need for google photos in my opinion) back up contacts/calendar/notepad/browser
and passwords, I would say Huawei notepad with the way it syncs is exactly the same to google keep. ALSO Find my phone is there to track your phone you need to go on to cloud.huawei.com
all in all Huawei cloud is a strong 10/10. Any thoughts
Yeah the Cloud was surprisingly good - I believe the offer is still on as I only started using it a week or two ago. Do wish I could back up my Gallery via Mobile Data (Three Unlimited Plan and don't have Home WiFi) Not sure if there's a way to override this?
Just be careful with multi device sync / sharing a cloud, it's brilliant until a pic accidentally goes across to a device you didn't want/expect #eggplant ... kidding!
Yeah it's good, looking for Huawei to really find a way to do something BETTER than Apple / Google as opposed to "just as good."
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Yeah the Cloud was surprisingly good - I believe the offer is still on as I only started using it a week or two ago. Do wish I could back up my Gallery via Mobile Data (Three Unlimited Plan and don't have Home WiFi) Not sure if there's a way to override this?
Just be careful with multi device sync / sharing a cloud, it's brilliant until a pic accidentally goes across to a device you didn't want/expect #eggplant ... kidding!
Yeah it's good, looking for Huawei to really find a way to do something BETTER than Apple / Google as opposed to "just as good."
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PERHAPS - whacking the sim card in a tablet/hot spot and tether it then tricking the phone into connecting to it, that way the phone thinks its connected to wifi and should back up?
I found the cloud a really strong platform. Something that is defiantly worth the swap from GMS for.
dw9075n said:
I found the cloud a really strong platform. Something that is defiantly worth the swap from GMS for.
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that's it right, I mean all Huawei need to do is offer an alternative to the GMS version of any app! im happy with it aslong as I can back up securely do I really care what I use? aslong as I always have access to it
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Google drive? and storage.
So I've been utilising Huawei cloud for the past 6 weeks, Please see my previous post 6 weeks deep.
Looking at the eco system and the easy sync of the kit its crazy, So i've logged into my Huawei tab & logged my wife in for
the experimental purpose to see how it syncs and well i'm not disappointed.
being able to see my devices, previous and being able to delete the back ups off that is class (obviously as i know longer need it)
but if i did i could restore. i also took advantage of the 50gb free initially when i got my handset, Not sure whether that's still on?
my wife is looking to upgrade & she will want it and its free she'll be all over it lol
features I've seen are the option to auto back up my gallery (takes away the need for google photos in my opinion) back up contacts/calendar/notepad/browser
and passwords, I would say Huawei notepad with the way it syncs is exactly the same to google keep. ALSO Find my phone is there to track your phone you need to go on to cloud.huawei.com
all in all Huawei cloud is a strong 10/10. Any thoughts
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Loving the cloud, plus they are giving 5GB for 12 months with every purchase or i believe 50GB if its a p40/ P40 Pro. How have you found overall use? easy, similar to Google, harder?
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PERHAPS - whacking the sim card in a tablet/hot spot and tether it then tricking the phone into connecting to it, that way the phone thinks its connected to wifi and should back up?
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This isn't a bad shout, I've tried with software updates way back on my Mate 10 Pro and it detected that it was still mobile data somehow and didn't work - have always assumed it wouldn't work since. Shall give it a go and report back!
TechPeck said:
This isn't a bad shout, I've tried with software updates way back on my Mate 10 Pro and it detected that it was still mobile data somehow and didn't work - have always assumed it wouldn't work since. Shall give it a go and report back!
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kEEP ME UPDATED! this sort of thing is useful for loads of people!
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that's it right, I mean all Huawei need to do is offer an alternative to the GMS version of any app! im happy with it aslong as I can back up securely do I really care what I use? aslong as I always have access to it
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I agree. The price is great aswell can get a large amount of storage for not much at all.
dw9075n said:
I agree. The price is great aswell can get a large amount of storage for not much at all.
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I 100% aagree I find that Huawei are fairly priced on most products tbf, and the fact that most purchases come with a freebie!
First Huawei in my hands ever. 50gb cloud for free with P40 Pro. Much better sync and less tracking activities at the moment, mainly because of missing maps. I dont care about missing Google stuff, except voice recognition on my language. Even on android One device i use Microsoft services. Onedrive autoupload doesnt work here and its a must to be fixed! Price... around 700 Euro with Gt2 watch as a gift. Camera, Voice, Sound... no comment at all! Even without G$$gle the phone is the best of!
What i want to be updated, fixed or maded:
Microsoft services... some of them are dependant on google
Maps app
Voice recognition, Text to speech on many languages...
There own pay app connected to mobile providers
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First Huawei in my hands ever. 50gb cloud for free with P40 Pro. Much better sync and less tracking activities at the moment, mainly because of missing maps. I dont care about missing Google stuff, except voice recognition on my language. Even on android One device i use Microsoft services. Onedrive autoupload doesnt work here and its a must to be fixed! Price... around 700 Euro with Gt2 watch as a gift. Camera, Voice, Sound... no comment at all! Even without G$$gle the phone is the best of!
What i want to be updated, fixed or maded:
Microsoft services... some of them are dependant on google
Maps app
Voice recognition, Text to speech on many languages...
There own pay app connected to mobile providers
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In the Uk I use Waze or the Tomtom app for the mapping. I've not had any issue with office apps so cannot help on that one sorry.
waze and google maps works out of the box except sync.... microsoft autoupload is broken in OneDrive...I have 1Tb prepaid. Office works like a charm.!When i mention maps... i mean their own map service. Their phones are used globaly, so the database will be filled very quickly.