I have a nex with the Global (India) ROM - happy to answer ?'s and one of my one ..

I have a nex with the Global (India) ROM - happy to answer ?'s and one of my one .. - Vivo Nex Questions & Answers

Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.

Mixed with Edge gestures and funtocuh OS gesture... it's wonderfull

TGUY25 said:
Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you. That's been very kind of as many people like me are reluctant to try Vivo especially due to that os and spending 45k Rs is a but risky.
1. Launcher setting- So no problems at all setting nova launcher as default launcher so that you can press home key and go straight to nova launcher home page right ? Have you tried any other launcher like Microsoft launcher?
2. Software - So far how many software updates you got. Generally how is the Vivo os updates ? Am not expecting crazy fast updates like OnePlus but still how is it ? Is there any chance that we get core Android updates to Android Pie and Q especially as other companies guarantee ? What about app to app transition and software os lags present after 1 month of usage ? How is th Ui ? Is it irritating? I like rich os like emui or miui rather than stock os.
3. I have seen in Oppo that enabling developer section under settings for changing Ppi or animation speed causes a red or yellow strip to blink across the status bar. Have you checked that ?
4. Display- In specs page , it said Nex has 338 ppi. How is the display ? Not expecting Samsung quality but can we get near to OnePlus 6 display quality in terms of color accuracy and sharpness or clarity ?
5. Audio quality- Have you tried audio via headphone Jack ? Vivo Nex is only the true competitor against LG V and G series in terms of audio and this is the primary sole reason to buy Vivo Nex. How about the loud speaker output ?
6. Call quality and reception- which network you are using here in India ? Does Vivo Nex picks network range pretty well or is it shabby like LG ? Also since no ear piece speaker but peizoelectric vibrating display how is the call volume ? Is it muffled ? Can it be heard in noisy environment ?
7. How is the charging speed ?
Sorry to ask much but too much curious and anxious about Vivo Nex

Answers to your questions (as best I can) below after each question
ben cherian said:
Thank you. That's been very kind of as many people like me are reluctant to try Vivo especially due to that os and spending 45k Rs is a but risky.
1. Launcher setting- So no problems at all setting nova launcher as default launcher so that you can press home key and go straight to nova launcher home page right ? Have you tried any other launcher like Microsoft launcher? Changing default launcher was no problem. I'm using Nova launcher and it functions exactly as it does on other phones
2. Software - So far how many software updates you got. Generally how is the Vivo os updates ? Am not expecting crazy fast updates like OnePlus but still how is it ? Is there any chance that we get core Android updates to Android Pie and Q especially as other companies guarantee ? What about app to app transition and software os lags present after 1 month of usage ? How is th Ui ? Is it irritating? I like rich os like emui or miui rather than stock os. I've gotten two updates so far. The launcher isn't as clean or neat as others and still have some Chinese type features - Jovi, no search under settings and a very few places where bits and pieces of the Chinese rom still poke through. Overall, though, nothing terribly annoying except that the option for smart unlock is hidden and you can't access it.
3. I have seen in Oppo that enabling developer section under settings for changing Ppi or animation speed causes a red or yellow strip to blink across the status bar. Have you checked that ? Crazy, ugly red stripe across the top of the screen when developer options are on. Doesn't affect performance as far as I can tell - just not pretty. Anyone smart enough to enable them knows what they are getting into and don't need a huge red bar across the top as a reminder
4. Display- In specs page , it said Nex has 338 ppi. How is the display ? Not expecting Samsung quality but can we get near to OnePlus 6 display quality in terms of color accuracy and sharpness or clarity ? I think the display is excellent
5. Audio quality- Have you tried audio via headphone Jack ? Vivo Nex is only the true competitor against LG V and G series in terms of audio and this is the primary sole reason to buy Vivo Nex. How about the loud speaker output ? Haven't used headphones yet. phone speaker is very loud and clear
yet
ll quality and reception- which network you are using here in India ? Does Vivo Nex picks network range pretty well or is it shabby like LG ? Also since no ear piece speaker but peizoelectric vibrating display how is the call volume ? Is it muffled ? Can it be heard in noisy environment ? All good here
7. How is the charging speed ? pretty typical - neither very fast or very slow
Overall I like the phone. swipe gestures like iPhone work well - i only wish there was a quick access button for settings. No NFC also stinks. I was using it as a daily driver but stopped as I use NFC a lot If it had NFC I would still be using it as my daily driver
Sorry to ask much but too much curious and anxious about Vivo Nex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

hi thanks for your help first.
Could you please check does it has a Turkish language in supported languages ?

mdb1903 said:
hi thanks for your help first.
Could you please check does it has a Turkish language in supported languages ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Turkish is not supported.

To turn off the "secure" keyboard when entering data go to Settings\More settings\Input method\Security Input. Turn off Security input.

i am wondering if the India build Nex suffers from loose buttons? i saw one with the three buttons loose and not as solid as the Chinese 256
to be fair the version i used was pretty abused with dust filling every space

No issue with buttons.

So are these 3 versions that we know of now:
1- Chinese
2- Indian
3- International - Hong Kong .....?
Are the Hong Kong and Indian versions the same with the same pre-installed Play Store and "ok google" working?

crusht said:
So are these 3 versions that we know of now:
1- Chinese
2- Indian
3- International - Hong Kong .....?
Are the Hong Kong and Indian versions the same with the same pre-installed Play Store and "ok google" working?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes three versions, my HK version is on the way

Hello,
I have several questions for you and hope you have an answer for me. I have a Nex S with global rom, and I am wanting to remove a lot of the bloatware. I have noticed that when I go into applications that there are 2 "messages" apps but, only one that is accessible. Do you know the propper commands to remove this one? Also, do you know the commands to remove the following:
1. Google Lens.
2. ARCore.
3. Google Play Movies etc.
4. Google Duo

Phaze1585 said:
Hello,
I have several questions for you and hope you have an answer for me. I have a Nex S with global rom, and I am wanting to remove a lot of the bloatware. I have noticed that when I go into applications that there are 2 "messages" apps but, only one that is accessible. Do you know the propper commands to remove this one? Also, do you know the commands to remove the following:
1. Google Lens.
2. ARCore.
3. Google Play Movies etc.
4. Google Duo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ADB is your friend and same basic pc knowledge
Follow this guide and you are ready
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/guide-vivo-nex-s-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3813308
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Screen Sound Casting
TGUY25 said:
Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
How is the screen sound casting when you are calling someone and when you are watching youtube/videos or while video calling someone, it will be great if you compare it with you previous phone or samsung/Iphone.
So, can you please share your experience with gear S3 connecting and usability as compare with samsung galaxy S8
Thanks

Related

GooApple V5 issues list

Hello everyone!
First of all sorry for my bad English. I represent smartphones distributor from Kiev, Ukraine. We have contacted with GooApple sales director and have got GooApple V5 sample phone for tests before bulk orders.
All I can say: it's just not ready for international market at the moment and unfortunately they are not very much interested in positive firmware or hardware changes.
They have made firmware ios_11.12.08 for our last recall but non of our issues have been resolved + one added: it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
Here is our issues list:
Phone's battery draining, runs out too fast!!! After full charge it runs out 75% battery life for 4 hours of usage: 1 call during 5 min., video watch during 8 min., music during 6 min, looking thought photos during 5 min., taking 3 pictures with the camera. 1,5 hour is just for walkthrough over the interface, settings, lock/unlock. 3,5 min. video takes about 5-6% of battery life. And it's without any gaming, internet surfing, making videos. Other time it's just holding.
Screen has some lightness flickering. Backlight blinking, flashing a little bit from the sides and left top corner.
Connect button (in putting Wi-Fi password mode) doesn't work. Just can't connect to any locked Wi-Fi network.
Bad Wi-Fi catch signal even with a close to phone router.
Doesn't remember icons location on springboard bar after moving around and reboot the phone.
Showing the last called phone number in background when sending USSD commands (checking balance or any anything else).
The input keyboard should be the same as iOS with working English and Russian (now it doesn't work) and customization ability in the General folder in Settings.
Booting animation should be the same as iOS with Apple logo only.
Creating folders (put in and put out icons) and moving icons around doesn't work properly.
The font in Calendar, Time, Dial is not the same as iOS.
The sim card pin code enter should be the same as iOS.
How to delete apps like Call Log, PowerOff... chinese QQ and others?
Reminders, Maps, Weather Stocks iReader apps should be in English.
Browser app should be renamed to Safari.
Gallery app should be renamed to Photos.
Phone key at dialpad should be renamed to Keypad.
Must speed up fake iOS usage response, performance.
Must speed up screen rotation/orientation response.
Must replace red ! (exclamation) to the Sending progress bar when sending messages/SMS.
Must replace chinese word to english word Call at the dial pad.
Make possibility of adding your own ringtones in the Settings.
Make double tap or pres hold the home button for multitask, running apps view like on iOS with appear at the bottom of the screen.
Make possibility of completely close/kill apps taking up memory and running in the background.
Make dialing numbers sound quieter (it's set to max by default).
Make lock/unlock sound quieter (it's set to max by default but should be possible to customize).
Make full-screen camera mode when taking photos.
Correct + - add sound mode when playing video, music (quiet sound from 2 to 6 bars and after 6 bars it's big increase in sound).
Remake Videos app (it should redirect/open phone's gallery instead of SDcard content).
Remake YouTube app (it should be in English or redirect/open youtube.com).
WLAN folder in Settings should be renamed to Wi-Fi.
Phone warms up when gaming, talking, videos.
It doesn't recognize sim card enter when ON.
Word Wednesday comes out of the Calendar app icon.
Power On/Off button dangles, swing around with sound.
Upper background part can be seen when charging.
While start pinching any picture from the center it zooms in with imprecision to the side of the picture.
Battery life doesn't shows properly on lock screen (it shows all empty when screen corner shows less of 20% battery life).
It Reboots by itself few times during the day when locking the screen.
If you know any other issues please add them by numbers 39, 40....
Or if you have solutions for any of the issues please also add it by the 1-38 numbers.
I hope we can make it better together!

Possible Solutions to Gooapple V5 issues.
Generally speaking, I don't think that all these reasons are real for every V5 phone around. Did you wipe out every data BEFORE flashing the new rom? If not, certain applications may have been running multiple times (i.e.: Maps in my case when I did that). I am using the android rom (not the iOS one) and I have not all these problems whatsoever.
Possible solutions:
1. Try and see if you have data enabled or GPS is on. This device has a hardcoded (R) Roaming on (i.e. you can't turn it off) plus it's not (yet) capable of 3G data. Turn both of them off while not needing them helps A LOT.
2. Not an issue here with newest android build; maybe your screen has issues. I've had some friends with original iPhones having the same flickering as yours. Turned out to be their retina display.
3. Not true. I'm connecting on both my wifi spots at home both Wep and WAP/PSK. Wifi is low powered though and need you to be NEAR the wifi router / spot (see below).
4. True! Just 5 meters away and a mid-wall makes the difference. They really need to boost their receiver.
5.Try reinstalling AFTER you've made a complete wipe data/factory reset. THEN install the rom. This might fix the issue.
6.I'd really like to see a list of USSD commands if you have one available for this phone... (pm me??? )
7.Same for Greek keyboard. I've overcame the problem by installing Greek Input Method from the market.
8.Heh. +1
9.It works for me for both android and iOS roms.
10,11.I agree.
12.You'll have to be 'root' to do so. The only way I've found to do so is the program superoneclick (google it). After rooting the V5, download from market 'Root Uninstaller'. Works perfectly even with the 'protected apps' like the one you mentioned. I know that you don't have 'market' on iOS rom so here's what I did:
I've had a factory reset first, then installed Android rom and THEN the iOS rom. I've also installed a program called 'Go Launcer EX'. This pops up when unlocking the device asking you what launcher you prefer, this way you have the best of both worlds.
13-16: Agree.
17 & 18: The problem is the retina display with the slow (relatively) 650MHz MTK6573 processor. The G3 (previous model) had a smaller screen that the cpu was able to handle. On android rom things are better though...
19 & 20: Agree.
21: On android you can do so by adding your custom ringtones on a folder called /alarms, /ringtones etc on your sd card. Should work for us too (didn't try it yet).
22. Agree.
23. I am using an app from market called: Advanced Task Manager does the trick.
24-31. Agree.
32. I didn't go that far!!! I guess you're right.
33 & 34. Yep.
35 & 36. I haven't got such a problem. Consider the retina screen of yours has a problem / issue?
37&38. Nope. Works alright here.
Finally another issue with no solution:
39. GPS lock. The GPS won't operate properly in EU (Greece) where I live. Takes forever to find satellites and it won't lock to a fix point even if you wait 10 mins. This is what I'm after right now and if I have a proper solution I'll post it here.
Thanks for putting up this thread Cyber_dude. If you need anything I'll be more than glad to help!

Thanks for your reply.
We have talked with GooApple for about a week now and sure I have made all needed such as wipe data before firmware update. That's because you are basically using Android ROM. Customers buying phones like this one because they just want iPhone for less and want everybody else think they got an iPhone. So using Android on any iPhone replica is just not right. It should run fake iOS and should be at least 60% of the original one. This phone costs $300 icnl. shipping at resellers (price of used iPhone 4 on eBay) and I think user interface should be well polished and flawless for that money.
Yes, Maps on last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 works in English now. But after resolving one problem they made two others, like it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
1. That's not a solution! Sure I have turned everything like wi-fi, gps... off. But customers want it to be fully functional phone, without thinking: "ohh., have I turned my phone's wi-fi and gps off to kepp the battery alive?" It's shouldn't be like that!
They have you used so low capacity 1050mAh battery. (but we think it's even less). The original iPhone's has 1420mAh. And there are even 2200-2430mAh on the market today. They have changed screen, ram, cpu but keep the same battery. It's just stupid. And it's smaller then iPhone's battery so you just can't replace it. It works maximum up to 3 hours in active usage mode without gaming. (with full brightness on, because turning it less on this screen is just sacrilege).
That's they have answered about that: "when making a phone, we have to consider a lot of things, especially the cost, when everything is as great as iphone 4, the price will be too..."
2. Yes, it's old issue, it resolves after reinstall.
3. It's true. It works on you because your wep password is large then 8 characters. It doesn't work with less passwords like mac or iPhone.
5. Yes, new firmware resolved that.
6. I mean USSD commands for checking balance.
But here is a command to enter EngineerMode: *#67876#*
7. Stock keyboard is a crap. I use Smart Keyboard Pro.
8. I can change robot with apple booting animation but can't change gooapple name at the beginning. I think it's logo.img at the rom zip file. I have tried to delete it and make other changes to the rom but can't sign it. It's always shows sign error at the install.
9. It works but it works very-very badly. Then you are trying to move icon to other position it creates a folder with other icon, it's so annoying.
12. I have also made the root with the SuperOneClick. And delete Chinese apps with Root Explorer.
Thanks for Go Launcer EX advise. What else it can help us with?
17 & 18. They used MTK6513 it's cuted MTK6573 without 3G. It's not the best one anyway.
21. Yes, I also want to try to add custom ringtone to media directory folder.
23. Yes, I also use Advanced Task Killer Pro on gooapple_ios_11.11.30 but they have added double tap home button like iPhone to kill running apps on gooapple_ios_11.12.08
35 & 36. These issues are real and haven't resolved on new roms. That's not screen problem, I can make a screenshot if needed.
37. This one is also real. Can also make a screenshot.
38. Haven't seen this issue on gooapple_ios_11.11.30
39. Maybe you should try to test it in EngineerMode Have you tried to use any other GPS third-party application?
I didn't know about this issue because I haven't tried GPS, no need with this battery.
Do you know how to replace chinese word (Call) to english word Call at the dial pad? Because it's immediately catches the eye when using. I have decompiled the Phone.apk with APK Edit program but all image files are normal over where, chinese word is not an image file. I don't know how to change it.
Just lets keep this thread go by adding new issues and how to solutions.

Got my V5 about 2 weeks ago. Been playing with it for a while - tried both the newer roms and currently running the ios version that is made available about 10 days ago. Been working fine for me, except I may gps is very slow (can take up to 10 minutes for it to find me), and the built in FM Transmitter does not work. I also have various chinese apps which I was not able to delete. I will try the latest rom to see what improvemements it has.
Question, how did you root the phone? I downloaded superoneclick, but keep getting hung on the "waiting for device". I have usb debuggin on, and tried it both with "usb connect" on and off (the setting in the phone to establish a usb connection to a PC). Instead of using this "usb connect" feature, do I need to download some type of usb driver for this phone? If so, can you provide details? I've tried various usb drivers for MT6513 but nothing yet works - even tried something called PDANet which installed some type of software oin the phone and said it was connected, but still the superoneclick failed. Any ideas?
Oh, by the way I found a vending.apk that works on the ios rom. See link below
http://www.mediafire.com/?khpvzmzwwaqyxdm
Thanks

I have uploaded the drivers for GooApple V5, here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?h6hr1ckrf3sc7cj
How to root your GooApple V5:
Make sure you use Win XP.
Download drivers file from the link above and unzip it.
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Unknown sources, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB debugging, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> to keep awake, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> Allow analog location, on
Connect the data cable, turn on USB storage in the phone.
In the Windows Device Manager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_Manager) find your phone, open properties and install or update the drivers from the unzipped folder.
Reboot your computer.
Now download the SuperOneClick from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 If you run XP, install .NET Framework v2.0 or above.
Shut down your antivirus/firewall.
Turn off USB storage in the phone. Make sure you do not mount the sd card.
Run the SuperOneClick BOOT process. If it's not success from the first time try it again.
After that install the Root Explorer to your phone, go system/app, push Mount R/W button and delete any app you want.
Thanks for the vending.apk, here are also some tips for it: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-new-android-market-2-2-6-on-your-device/

Cyber_Dude, thanks for the engineering mode code. You've done a nice job on the rooting info. Just for the story: I've done it on W7, 32bit and worked alright too. Newest superoneclick has the ability to forcibly ask for Admin privileges. Drivers have to be installed manually though.
I've found out into the Engineering menu that there's a CPU Frequency test that reports a high of 806MHz. THAT would be awesome to have when needed. Do you have any *working* utility that is able to over clock the MTK6573 CPU of it? I've tried some from the market but with no luck whatsoever.
Some info on the WiFi boosting would be helpful too. I've been digging into the /etc directory and found out several conf files that may, or may not do the job. I'd rather not alter the values on my own though...
Ah, finally another addition:
There seems to be an issue importing/exporting my contacts from the phone to google.com. Plus the Account and Sync options on the settings menu isn't reporting the respective field (i.e.: only Picassa, books and gmail is able to sync. Contacts is not on the list).
Thanks.

Cyber_dude - thanks for the rooting details. Got my V5 rooted today, and it worked from my vista laptop (didn't need a xp PC). I deleted the 9 chinese apps no problem including the chinese market app.
The vending.apk I provided works whether you root or not - however now that I'm rooted I will keep your instructions in mind if I want to upgrade to a different market version.
I'm still on the Dec1/2011 ios rom - anyone know what the newer ios rom (Dec10/2011) has to offer? I have tons of apps and settings personalized, so I'm not really wanting to wipe the phone to load the latest ios rom unless I know it will have some improvements.
Only problems I still have, which I would appreciate feedback on, are:
1) gps is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes). Funy thing is that as I scroll on the map it refreshes fast, and I can find addresses and streets, but it just can not find my location?
2) ther built in FM Transmitter does not work - would love to get this working since I do not have bluetooth stereo in the car. FYI - found other fmtransmiiter.apk apps on the net - can I just replace my existing same app on systems/bin to make it work?
Thanks

Have you tried it with the 'new' Android UI ROM? How does it perform? I'd really like to see some videos - youtube only has 13 and I've seen them all ..

DanADaMan said:
Only problems I still have, which I would appreciate feedback on, are:
1) gps is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes). Funy thing is that as I scroll on the map it refreshes fast, and I can find addresses and streets, but it just can not find my location?
2) ther built in FM Transmitter does not work - would love to get this working since I do not have bluetooth stereo in the car. FYI - found other fmtransmiiter.apk apps on the net - can I just replace my existing same app on systems/bin to make it work?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) Same thing here. From the data sheet (from Mediatek) of the MTK6573 (which this phone has) the update location should be as fast as 10ms (that's 1/100 of a second) so something is DEFINITELY wrong.
2) I think you'll have to 'sign' it somehow. There are some apps that are supposed to provide 'signed' apps but never got to work with one; so I have no experience.
Cheers

macsga, DanADaMan, you are welcome.
I think cpu overclocking is not in time now and it also can make even worse. But we'll be glad if you can find any good, stable working app for that and test it. The only thing need to be overclocked now is the iOS UI, it should have to be polished well to match the original one.
For WiFi boosting, have you tried Wifi Fixer or Wifi Analyzer, you can change your WiFi channels with it.
GPS chipset is very bad. It's just a copy, fake phone, so they have used the cheapest hardware parts for it, we should reconcile to it. Unless they somehow fix it in new firmware, but I don't think it's gonna happen in near future. The main market for this phone is China, so they don't hasten with any international changes. As GooApple sales director said to me: "we sold more then 500pcs aday, should this problem happend to every phone, i think all the phone should return to us". So maybe chinese people are just not as demanding as we are, and they are happy with the phone? Anyway, I think with a good administrative force all listed issues can be resolved in just one week.
By the way, as I know they are planning to produce new phone in January with the 3G support. No info about any other new hardware at the moment.
Meantime we have to add new issues to the list:
39. GPS is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes).
40. Built in FM Transmitter does not work.
41. Importing/exporting my contacts from the phone to google.com. Plus the Account and Sync options on the settings menu isn't reporting the respective field (i.e.: only Picassa, books and gmail is able to sync. Contacts is not on the list).
42. In last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 firmware it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
Updates in the last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 firmware:
Increase in task manager.
Blocking state to increase unread text message reminder.
Debug chinese QQ picture upside down.
Some Google applications added (en maps, gmail, voice..)
Task Manager.
Standby SMS prompts.
Double-click the home button shows running/standby apps and kill possibility like in original iOS.
Plus issue 42 added.
I haven't tried all new features in gooapple_ios_11.12.08 I don't want to use it because of the 42 issue. Now I'm using previous gooapple_ios_11.11.30 version. If anyone already installed and running the gooapple_ios_11.12.08 please give us your feedback.
DanADaMan, maybe you should try to make the data backup in stock recovery mode first and install firmware update after that? Maybe this should keep all your apps in and give you the new firmware? (haven't tried by myself)
jontelang, Sure, Android UI works much better with it, but I personally don't want to use it on this phone, it would be too simple and means you gave up making iOS UI ROM better.

As a side note, I've noticed that the phone is able to provide extraordinary 2D & 3D performance. I don't agree with the comment "It's just a copy, fake phone, so they have used the cheapest hardware parts for it, we should reconcile to it." you posted earlier Cyber_Dude, because I've seen cheap devices and this is nothing like it.
I do believe that the dev team has issues supporting the phone chipset due to the novelty that presents at the current time. This processor came out only at the end of June 2011 (fairly new).
News about MTK MT6573 Processor
Monday, June 13, 2011 3:25:26 AM America/Los_Angeles
Since the release MTK MT6516 processor, there is lots of Android phones in the market, which support GSM network and dual SIM card smartphone. But later, when Qualcomm, Broadcom and other smartphone processor manufacturer access into the field, mtk's dimmed. MTK MT6573 is the only hope in the future.
The end of June, 2011, we will share the latest trends with you, with the following new star.
Time: the first smartphone with MT6573 processor has been assembled, the major integrators, solution providers have had contact with, the reaction generally very good, have begun to prepare the relevant program models. As far as know, next month the first smartphone with MT6573 processor will unveiled.
Performance: As MT6573 is positioned in the low-end smartphone, we should not expect performance of deification, but the actual test performance to facilitate more than Qualcomm MSM7227, while MT6573 with the 3D acceleration in the multimedia DSP will give you a surprise. Currently sent to the integrators, solution providers of 3G features are still several prototype debugging.
Programs: MT6573 and MT6516 share same pins, and the both chips can be exchange without any hardware change, this will save cost on design for smartphone manufacturers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Via: http://android-sale.com/blog/news-mtk-mt6573/

macsga, But have you test it side by side with the iPhone 4 (not talking about 4S)?
Sure if comparing with other copies it's a winner. It's the best choice if you want to buy an iPhone replica for the price of the used iPhone 4 and you're not too picky. But it's a huge contrast with the original iPhone 4 UI performance, speed and hardware. And at the present time it's not totally ready for the wide international market due to the all listed issues. That's why I have started this thread, all together we can make it better. Unfortunately GooApple's dev team/engineers do nothing for it, local market and the new phone's version is their main goal at the moment. I know that because I've contacted with the GooApple sales director for the last 3 weeks.
As I have posted before they used MTK6513 it's cut MTK6573 without 3G support. It's good but not the best one. Anyway CPU is not the main problem of GooApple V5. The low capacity battery is much bigger failure. The android-sale.com is just a reseller, they can write anything they want to sell the phones more efficiently.

Hehe, I do have a 4s and (you're right) side by side there's nothing like it. That's why I gave up on iOS UI and turned to the android native one. I do believe that it's a perfect android testbed though. And for 230 Eur (retail price) that the 32Gb model cost me; well I can't really complain.
So; I totally agree! Let's try and make it better
The UI might be faster if you lower the resolution (i.e.: draw @ 480x320 and not the retina native resolution this phone has). It's zoom capabilities should cover the gap and reduce choppiness. Of course, this is just a crazy thought of mine...

macsga, Where have you got it for 230 EURO for 32GB? Official resellers like android-sale.com and rofen.net selling 32GB model for $319.99 (245 EURO) without shipping cost.
How could you lower the resolution? And why? If you want lower resolution you just should buy cheaper GooApple 3G version and it has faster UI response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqAevweocKs

Cyber_Dude said:
macsga, Where have you got it for 230 EURO for 32GB? Official resellers like android-sale.com and rofen.net selling 32GB model for $319.99 (245 EURO) without shipping cost.
How could you lower the resolution? And why? If you want lower resolution you just should buy cheaper GooApple 3G version and it has faster UI response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqAevweocKs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it before the EUR/USD was at 1/1.29 which is what you just calculated . The lower resolution (magnified) would in my opinion give the fast and smooth feeling the 3G has.
As per why I didn't go for the 3G, I did not, because of the retina display the V5 has. The official replacement for a retina display from Apple goes up to 390EUR+pnp, where I got the whole phone for 230 (OK plus 11$ shipping). In the meanwhile I have an android phone to play with (apart from my 4s). Fair deal.

I just wiped the phone and tried to load the ios 12-08-11 rom. Got an error something about not being a signed rom. I reinstalled the ios 12-01-11 ios rom no problem.
Anyone else have problems loading the latest ios rom?
Thanks

is this real?
i have heard that the Gooapple v5 is very good, and it is the same display as the real iphone 4, and can exchange with the iphone 4 display, does this ture?

DanADaMan said:
I just wiped the phone and tried to load the ios 12-08-11 rom. Got an error something about not being a signed rom. I reinstalled the ios 12-01-11 ios rom no problem.
Anyone else have problems loading the latest ios rom?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are newer ones from 2011.12.10 on http://rom.gooapple.com use those. Hopefully you won't have the same issues. Correction: Unfortunately the new Android one is not signed- The iOS though works OK
---------- Post added at 05:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 PM ----------
lovebargaining said:
is this real?
i have heard that the Gooapple v5 is very good, and it is the same display as the real iphone 4, and can exchange with the iphone 4 display, does this ture?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it's real. You can watch exchanging one another, on youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s7nUkSdzOqo

The flickering at the corners of the screen is annoying on mine, has this developed from the latest ROM or did you guys see it in previous? I've only had it a few days and updated straight away. I've resorted to the android UI cos the IOS one was sluggish but am more than happy to swap back to help?!
What I did find was GTA III kills this phone. On launch the intro plays but as the game launches the screen goes black and the phone will not respond to any button pressing for an hour, then I think it kills the process and the phone comes back. Just don't try, unless someone can tell me otherwise?
Mine responds on one click of the home button right now but Wireless is pants and so is GPS!
---------- Post added at 09:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 PM ----------
How do I tell if I loaded 2011-12-08 or 2011-12-11?
I downloaded them on the 15th and loaded the Android one without any complaints of it being unsigned? Did it over the top of the version it came with though so not fresh install...
EDIT:
Thought it was worth adding how to get into engineers menu:
Dial “*#67876#*”
Is there a way to turn WiFi Tx from 20 to 40 or even more?
I need to root mine still

I never noticed flickering and I have to say that the latest 'iOS' rom is a bit faster on my device resulting in a rather good imitation while the previous was very choppy.
The only drawback is that the UI crashes every now and then. I do like the 'long press' function of the home button that is able to kill apps in the 'official' iOS mode plus I think for the 1st time since I owned this phone that I like more the iOS UI to the android one.
I do have to offer a couple of tips that I found through my xda search:
1. Using a program like Root Explorer (root) you may want to make the following directories as Read Only: /data/tombstones and /data/system/dropbox
This has as a result, that the phone won't be able to log into the main phone memory thus trimming down your available space.
2. *IF* you're using the iOS UI version of the rom you can safely(?) remove the following apps (I state them as bloatware) via Root Uninstaller (root):
-QQ input method and keyboard
-Chinese market
-Chinese Youtube (Yuku)
-Chinese Maps
-Chinese Weather (3 entries, remove all three)
-Chinese iBooks (Google books does the job)
3. Add the following app: Locale Select from the Market and choose your language of choice.
4. If you search the xda site you will be able to find signed Google Apps that (most of them) work with this phone.
Ah, one last thing: I found the best player for playing p0r... erm, Movies, MoboPlayer with the additional ArmV7VFP3 plugin. Supports almost every codec and srt file out there and respective char encodings. Please ignore the message: This program is not compatible with your device. Works like a charm, I swear.
Cheers.

Help me understand things about X2

Dear X2 users,
I am thinking about purchasing X2, and I would like to ask you to share your experience with this device, and also help me understand a few moments. I am pretty new to nowadays devices, and my experience is limited to rooting and changing rom on old galaxy nexus years ago.
1. Firstly, I see users post updated firmware in this forum for X2, different GEM versions. How do I know which version will I purchase? Can it be viewed somewhere in settings/menus? In the shops of my country, this device is called "Mediapad X2 LTE". I want to know the version to be able to understand which updates and customization might be available for this device.
2. Secondly, I would like to ask your opinion about the amount of RAM. Unfortunately, 3 GB version is not available in my country, none of the suppliers can offer it. I don't want to buy it online from other countries, because locally purchased device may have extended warranty, warranty against braking/losing/water-destorying the device etc. So, I can buy 2 GB version or nothing. I shall use the device for movies via VLC, internet browsing, youtube videos, calls, alarm clock, a few news apps. I never play games, and almost never use camera. I think 2 GB of RAM should be enough, but I would like to ask you to share your memory usage just to be sure.
3. Say I will have a reason to rood the device and change the recovery to TWRP. And say after some time something will stop working, and I will need to bring the device to warranty service. Will it be possible to restore the standard recovery and un-root the device to avoid any questions at warranty service?
4. This post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2/general/emui-3-1-apps-multiscreen-t3193389
Does it mean that it is possible to make X2 display two different programs at the same time, like e.g. on galaxy note 4 ?
5. I've read that sometimes preinstalled apps are slowing down the device and are useless. What is your experience? Is it necessary to get root to remove this bloatware?
Thank you for sharing your experience in advance

Hi
Just my sharing to your 5 questions:
1) There are 3 variants for X2 --> GEM-701L, GEM-702L and GEM-703L depending on which country. I noticed GEM-701L is prevalent in Europe (eg. Russsia), GEM-702L in Asia except China (eg. Hong Kong, Taiwan) and GEM-703L is for the China market. So far Huawei seems to have concentrated the ROM upgrades for the model GEM-703L which currently is at Android 5.11. The other 2 models are still at Android 5.0.5. If you're able to have physical access to the X2 in your country's shop, you can check the model by SETTINGS--->ABOUT PHONE--->MODEL NO.
2) Based on your usage description personally I think 2GB RAM is sufficient. Of course the general rule is the more RAM the better.
3) Yes it is possible to un-root your X2 and restore it back to stock status.
4) Yes - this is the split screen feature available if you're on GEM-703L models only.
5) I never had the experience of the X2 pre-installed bloatware affecting my usage so far. Anyway to prevent the effect of bloatware slowing down the device if you experience it, you can "disable" these pre-installed apps from the MANAGE APPS within the SETTINGS. No need to root the device to disable it. After reboot these bloatware won't start anymore. But to remove/uninstall these then you need root access.
To add on to your Q1, another way to check which model is the X2 in your country's shop is by checking the LTE Bands that is supported as stated in the advertisement of your shop:
GEM-701L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/20/38/40
Model: GEM-702L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/8/28/38/39/40/41
Model: GEM-703L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
Hope the above helps.
---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:51 PM ----------
To further add-on, the coming Android Marshmallow 6.0 Huawei has announced officially that they'll upgrade the GEM-703L only

Darn. I hope the 702 to 703 method will allow a 6.0 update

Rudolpht said:
Darn. I hope the 702 to 703 method will allow a 6.0 update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well keep our fingers crossed, will attempt it when it comes.

kpcheang2 said:
Hi
Just my sharing to your 5 questions:
1) There are 3 variants for X2 --> GEM-701L, GEM-702L and GEM-703L depending on which country. I noticed GEM-701L is prevalent in Europe (eg. Russsia), GEM-702L in Asia except China (eg. Hong Kong, Taiwan) and GEM-703L is for the China market. So far Huawei seems to have concentrated the ROM upgrades for the model GEM-703L which currently is at Android 5.11. The other 2 models are still at Android 5.0.5. If you're able to have physical access to the X2 in your country's shop, you can check the model by SETTINGS--->ABOUT PHONE--->MODEL NO.
2) Based on your usage description personally I think 2GB RAM is sufficient. Of course the general rule is the more RAM the better.
3) Yes it is possible to un-root your X2 and restore it back to stock status.
4) Yes - this is the split screen feature available if you're on GEM-703L models only.
5) I never had the experience of the X2 pre-installed bloatware affecting my usage so far. Anyway to prevent the effect of bloatware slowing down the device if you experience it, you can "disable" these pre-installed apps from the MANAGE APPS within the SETTINGS. No need to root the device to disable it. After reboot these bloatware won't start anymore. But to remove/uninstall these then you need root access.
To add on to your Q1, another way to check which model is the X2 in your country's shop is by checking the LTE Bands that is supported as stated in the advertisement of your shop:
GEM-701L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/20/38/40
Model: GEM-702L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/8/28/38/39/40/41
Model: GEM-703L
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
Hope the above helps.
---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:51 PM ----------
To further add-on, the coming Android Marshmallow 6.0 Huawei has announced officially that they'll upgrade the GEM-703L only
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much for such a detailed answer. I have visited a local shop, so it is GEM 701. I tried to load the device with software, and I didn't exceed 1 GB of RAM usage. So I guess 2 GB should be enough in all cases of my non overloaded usage.
Just a couple more questions:
6. Does this device have a one handed operation, when all the screen becomes smaller and moves to the right side of the screen? Samsung and some other phones with big screens has this functionality, but I didn't find it in this device. Is it there?
7. I installed Apex launcher and Nova launcher on that device in the shop, because I prefer the app drawer (secondary menu for apps instead of all of them being on the desktop). With these launchers half of desktop in each homescreen is black. Do you have any experience of these aftermarket launchers? Did you have any issues? What may be the reason for the half of the screen being black? Haven't found any similar topics anywhere on the web ...
8. Just for a curiosity - GEM 701 and two other versions are basically different for their supported radio bands. How come the split-screen functionality is dependent on that?
Thank you again for your time sharing the experience

astuntas said:
Thank you so much for such a detailed answer. I have visited a local shop, so it is GEM 701. I tried to load the device with software, and I didn't exceed 1 GB of RAM usage. So I guess 2 GB should be enough in all cases of my non overloaded usage.
Just a couple more questions:
6. Does this device have a one handed operation, when all the screen becomes smaller and moves to the right side of the screen? Samsung and some other phones with big screens has this functionality, but I didn't find it in this device. Is it there?
7. I installed Apex launcher and Nova launcher on that device in the shop, because I prefer the app drawer (secondary menu for apps instead of all of them being on the desktop). With these launchers half of desktop in each homescreen is black. Do you have any experience of these aftermarket launchers? Did you have any issues? What may be the reason for the half of the screen being black? Haven't found any similar topics anywhere on the web ...
8. Just for a curiosity - GEM 701 and two other versions are basically different for their supported radio bands. How come the split-screen functionality is dependent on that?
Thank you again for your time sharing the experience
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
6. Does this device have a one handed operation, when all the screen becomes smaller and moves to the right side of the screen? Samsung and some other phones with big screens has this functionality, but I didn't find it in this device. Is it there?
[kpcheang2] Currently no. I"m not sure if they will implement it via future ROM feature upgrades.
7. I installed Apex launcher and Nova launcher on that device in the shop, because I prefer the app drawer (secondary menu for apps instead of all of them being on the desktop). With these launchers half of desktop in each homescreen is black. Do you have any experience of these aftermarket launchers? Did you have any issues? What may be the reason for the half of the screen being black? Haven't found any similar topics anywhere on the web ...
[kpcheang2] I never used these 2 launchers so I can't comment much. Could it be these launchers are targeted at smartphones because some APKs have display related issues when working in smartphone or tablet modes as there are too many resolution variations for Android devices. You may want to write to the developers to confirm.
8. Just for a curiosity - GEM 701 and two other versions are basically different for their supported radio bands. How come the split-screen functionality is dependent on that?
[kpcheang2] The split screen feature was implemented in B106 ROM of the GEM-703L - that's why it's available to owners of GEM-703 If you follow their official upgrade path. They never upgrade the ROM for GEM-701 and 702 so far. However if you want to try flashing the B106 onto the 701 to see whether it works at your own risk and of course voiding the warranty. I did it on my 702 and I got the feature working although the B106 was meant for 703.

Thank again for your time sharing the experience, it helps a lot to get things clearer.
Today I visited the shop again. Now I installed all the apps I use, and looked how they performed. I installed firefox, chrome, vlc, contacts plus, and a few other. Then I launched stock apps - youtube, google playstore, and something more. The device was taking 1.2 GB of ram. So now I am sure 2 GB is enough.
All the apps performed without any issues, at least as much as I could have tested. There was a tiny lag during browsing with firefox at moments when apps were being downloaded and installed in the background via Play store, but this is totally reasonable.
Then, I tried all the different launchers to see if I can get the broken background fixed with any of them. I tried again Apex and Nova and looked at their settings without any luck to solve the problem. Then I tried Action launcher and Google Now launcher - they all had the same black marks on the screen. So I guess it is a firmware issue, not related to the launchers. This means I will have to live with the default launcher if I purchase it.
I took a better look at preinstalled apps. There are none! Playstore, contacts, chrome, video player and a couple others, thats all. No bloatware at all. Nothing is launched after the phone is started.
I also tested GPS - it went very smooth, in a few seconds it connected to 8 or 10 satelites and gave a good accuracy despite I was inside the building.
I am now confused between X2 and Note4. I put them side by side in the shop. Note4 was really noticeably faster in performance, better firmware, multiscreen function, etc. But, while Note has advantages, most of them are not important to me - the screen of Note4 is ridiculously small - it is not a phablet, it is a phone with normal size screen (for a phone).
So I am heading towards X2. It is also almost twice cheaper, but that does not play the main role in decision ...
Just one more question about X2: I didn't manage to launch any additional widget. I didn't find anywhere in the settings to enable them. But there are two preinstalled widgets: google search window and a big clock. So it looks that it should be possible to have a widget in the homescreen of X2, but I can't find anywhere how to do it, nor I succeeded to do it in the shop. Is it possible? If so - how?
++EDIT: I also tested FM radio in the shop in this device. It was very bad quality. I tried different headphones for antena, with all of them the sound was inappropriate. So, even though FM radio is available, actually it is useless because of unacceptable quality. PS: the radio signal was really good because all the other stereo devices were playing without any issues.

astuntas said:
Thank again for your time sharing the experience, it helps a lot to get things clearer.
Today I visited the shop again. Now I installed all the apps I use, and looked how they performed. I installed firefox, chrome, vlc, contacts plus, and a few other. Then I launched stock apps - youtube, google playstore, and something more. The device was taking 1.2 GB of ram. So now I am sure 2 GB is enough.
All the apps performed without any issues, at least as much as I could have tested. There was a tiny lag during browsing with firefox at moments when apps were being downloaded and installed in the background via Play store, but this is totally reasonable.
Then, I tried all the different launchers to see if I can get the broken background fixed with any of them. I tried again Apex and Nova and looked at their settings without any luck to solve the problem. Then I tried Action launcher and Google Now launcher - they all had the same black marks on the screen. So I guess it is a firmware issue, not related to the launchers. This means I will have to live with the default launcher if I purchase it.
I took a better look at preinstalled apps. There are none! Playstore, contacts, chrome, video player and a couple others, thats all. No bloatware at all. Nothing is launched after the phone is started.
I also tested GPS - it went very smooth, in a few seconds it connected to 8 or 10 satelites and gave a good accuracy despite I was inside the building.
I am now confused between X2 and Note4. I put them side by side in the shop. Note4 was really noticeably faster in performance, better firmware, multiscreen function, etc. But, while Note has advantages, most of them are not important to me - the screen of Note4 is ridiculously small - it is not a phablet, it is a phone with normal size screen (for a phone).
So I am heading towards X2. It is also almost twice cheaper, but that does not play the main role in decision ...
Just one more question about X2: I didn't manage to launch any additional widget. I didn't find anywhere in the settings to enable them. But there are two preinstalled widgets: google search window and a big clock. So it looks that it should be possible to have a widget in the homescreen of X2, but I can't find anywhere how to do it, nor I succeeded to do it in the shop. Is it possible? If so - how?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vey detailed research you've done on the X2. You're like me - I did similar "touch" and "install" routine on the X1 (my country has no X2) just to make sure I'm comfortable with the X2 (they're both similar in size and capacity except for CPU and dual SIM LTE support).
As for widgets, yes you can install the default or 3rd party widgets. Just put 3 fingers on the home screen for 1-2 seconds and then lift up. The home screen will shrink to let you customise it. Once of the available customisation option is to add widgets (shown at the bottom). The list of available widgets will be the pre-installed ones plus other 3rd party apps that has widget capabilities.

astuntas said:
Then, I tried all the different launchers to see if I can get the broken background fixed with any of them. I tried again Apex and Nova and looked at their settings without any luck to solve the problem. Then I tried Action launcher and Google Now launcher - they all had the same black marks on the screen. So I guess it is a firmware issue, not related to the launchers. This means I will have to live with the default launcher if I purchase it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
uh no. this is android. everything is possible and with the huawei firmware its more tweakable. you just didnt look hard enough.
to make another launcher default you just need to do the following:
actually, just see this video. its all the same for all huawei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YozCv4lZNM

cylent: the launchers do work. The problem is that half of the homescreen becomes black with nothing on it with an aftermarket launchers
kpcheang2: I will try to edit widgets in the shop tomorrow by your explanation. But I think this won't play the main role and I will buy X2 anyway

I use Nova and it works well full screen. Are you opening Multi Window for some reason?

So, today I was in the shop again. Firstly, I tried widgets, and I also tried homescreen toggle switches - apparently, everything is working.
Then I tried again to make Nova launcher work. It was still a black screen - I tried different settings in the phone and different settings in Nova - nothing helped. This is how it looked:
https://youtu.be/Y2ZyaQFMYio
In the video, firstly I am on standard launcher, then I turn on the Nova. "Home" button returned me to the default launcher because Nova was not set as default. I later set it to default, but doing that didn't change anything.
Then I restarted the phone - still the same. Then I changed the background image (in Nova) - and it started to work normally - no black screen! Changed it to a few other backgrounds - it was still working good. Not sure what was the exact issues, furthermore it was the same with ALL aftermarket launchers, and in two different shops with two different devices (both GEM701 with B003 FW). So I will call this issue also solved.
So now everything is clear I guess. I will order a glass protection and silicon cover for X2, and as soon as they arrive - purchase the phone.
Thank you again everybody, especially kpcheang2, for help and all the information, it would had been difficult to find out everything without you. Thank you!

Glad it's working! I typically like glass protectors, but the device shipped with an installed protector. I use a flip smart cover on every device I had so I figure that buys me enough protection.

kpcheang2 said:
6. Does this device have a one handed operation, when all the screen becomes smaller and moves to the right side of the screen? Samsung and some other phones with big screens has this functionality, but I didn't find it in this device. Is it there?
[kpcheang2] Currently no. I"m not sure if they will implement it via future ROM feature upgrades.
7. I installed Apex launcher and Nova launcher on that device in the shop, because I prefer the app drawer (secondary menu for apps instead of all of them being on the desktop). With these launchers half of desktop in each homescreen is black. Do you have any experience of these aftermarket launchers? Did you have any issues? What may be the reason for the half of the screen being black? Haven't found any similar topics anywhere on the web ...
[kpcheang2] I never used these 2 launchers so I can't comment much. Could it be these launchers are targeted at smartphones because some APKs have display related issues when working in smartphone or tablet modes as there are too many resolution variations for Android devices. You may want to write to the developers to confirm.
8. Just for a curiosity - GEM 701 and two other versions are basically different for their supported radio bands. How come the split-screen functionality is dependent on that?
[kpcheang2] The split screen feature was implemented in B106 ROM of the GEM-703L - that's why it's available to owners of GEM-703 If you follow their official upgrade path. They never upgrade the ROM for GEM-701 and 702 so far. However if you want to try flashing the B106 onto the 701 to see whether it works at your own risk and of course voiding the warranty. I did it on my 702 and I got the feature working although the B106 was meant for 703.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi.
Is it possible to manually update the Gem-703l B106 onto Gem-702L, to get split screen?. Or do we need to unlock bootloader and root first?

Aznbull said:
Hi.
Is it possible to manually update the Gem-703l B106 onto Gem-702L, to get split screen?. Or do we need to unlock bootloader and root first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unlock and root first.

Aznbull said:
Hi.
Is it possible to manually update the Gem-703l B106 onto Gem-702L, to get split screen?. Or do we need to unlock bootloader and root first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to unlock bootloader, root first before you can apply the modded ROMs

A compilation of issues and missing features for the January 2018 Android 8.0 update

Found at the official MIUI forum:
Xiaomi Mi A1 issues and missing features for Android 8.0 Oreo January 2018 update
I wonder if XDA users have found something else.
Click CONFIRM for the bug reports that you want to be fixedThe issues below are confirmed to be present on all Xiaomi Mi A1 devices for the January 2018 Oreo update.
[NEW] [Android 8.0 January] If the screen is off but the phone is not locked notifications make the screen light up but there are no notifications on the screen! That's a January 2018 regression. Bug report.
[NEW] [Android 8.0 January] SMS text messages backup doesn't work: "Waiting to backup". Bug report.
[NEW] [Android 8.0 December] RCS Phone/Service instead of Android System in battery stats - that's an Oreo regression. Bug report.
[NEW] [Android 8.0 December] Launcher3 bug: icons shape can only be changed if Developer mode is enabled. Bug report.
[NEW] [Android 8.0 December] The phone ignores the Contacts app settings and always uses but doesn't show SIM contacts. Bug report.
White noise for both bluetooth and analogue (3.5mm jack) headphones (slightly improved in the December 2017 update). Discussion. Older discussion. Bug report. Older bug report.
Low light camera performance is horrible for photos and especially for videos due to missing EIS and Camera2API.
High Android System and Android OS power usage/battery drain (reproducible under Oreo as well). Bug report.
Things which Mi A1 users and developers are craving for:
Camera2 API and EIS are not enabled even though both are perfectly supported by software and hardware but disabled only because ... no idea - not to compete with Pixels, I guess. When rooted the solution is to edit build.prop and add persist.camera.eis.enable=1 and set persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 ). Bug report.
Add an option to configure display color temperature: there are two very different matrices for MI A1 one of which has a coldish (bluish) hue, another one is warmish (reddish). That also affects how photos and videos are percieved.
Wi-Fi: 40MHz bandwidth for 2.4GHz mode is disabled in software even though hardware is capable. For rooted devices it can be reenabled by editing /data/misc/wifi/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini and setting GChannelBondingMode24GHz = 1. Bug report.
The new Google Camera App with HDR+.
There's no option to swap "Back" and "Apps Overview" capacitive buttons. If it's stock Android why it follows Xiaomi's conventions? Bug report.
FM module is present but there's no app for it and it's not exposed to apps (aside from dialling *#*#6484#*#*).
Edit 2018-01-30: The kernel sources for the MI A1 have finally been released - unfortunately they are for Nougat.
Nice to have features:
Gestures: double tap to wake, lift to wake and others which are present in Google Pixels.
Configuring the lighting time of the physical keys.
Making it possible to keep the physical keys always on and configuring their brightness level (also depending on the time of a day).
Bug and feature requests which have been rejected by Xiaomi moderators (what?!):
[Android 8.0] A visual glitch: WiFi/Cellular Indicators have additional dynamic traffic flow symbols which shift the icons to the left of the indicator. Bug report. Here's an app to fix a jumping traffic indicator.
[Android 8.0] "App network access" feature (which allowed to configure per-app WiFi/Cellular access) is no longer present. Bug report.
[Android 8.0] Scheduled power on and off is no longer present. Bug report.
There's a completely unnecessary 1.5GB SWAP partition which causes a tear and wear of the internal storage. Bug report.
These issues need verification:
Some people experience lags and jitters while scrolling, including scrolling in the system settings ( https://youtu.be/wu4CR9tOw8o ). The source of the problem is not known at the moment and the issue doesn't look widespread, i.e. only certain units are affected. Installing the Google Now launcher mostly fixes it.
[Needs root to check] CPU usage monitors cause disk write activity (probably an Android OS bug - need a confirmation from Pixel owners). Discussion. Bug report.
Fixed in the January 2018 update:
[Android 8.0] If you enabled DND mode in volume change UI in Android 7.0(using system UI tuner), in Android 8.0 you will either see empty space or DND icon will be cut off. Bug report.
[Android 8.0] You cannot interact with ambient display notifications. Also if your phone is not locked but the screen is off, you cannot answer an incoming call from the lock screen. Bug report.
[Android 8.0] There's no UI/setting to enable fingerprint swipe notification gesture. Bug report.
[Android 8.0] Under some circumstances the GPS icon might stuck. Bug report.
[Android 8.0] Certain users report that BlueTooth is seemingly draining their batteries. Bug report.
Bad audio for video recording. When rooted the solution is to edit build.prop and set ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluencepro. Bug report.
SIM is "HD Capable" icon..
Erroneous "rapid charging" message.
[Android 8.0 December] Lock screen notifications font doesn't match system settings - it's much bigger. Bug report.
Fixed in the December 2017 update:
Pressing the Home button while being on a second/third/fourth launcher screen doesn't return to the primary home screen. Bug report.
Fingerprint scanner became quite slower with November 2017 update. Bug report.
Complete changelog for updates: three(!) changes for a 1GB update just don't cut it. A better changelog was posted for the December update.
Fixed in the Oreo update:
It's not possible to install the Google Phone app (it does support dual SIM phones). Good bye SPAM protection and caller ID. Why? Bug report.
Xiaomi Mi A1 Contacts app is a different app than Google Contacts for no obvious reasons. Bug report.
Google Assistant sometimes doesn't speak. Discussion. Bug report, another bug report.
The camera app uses a zoom lens instead of a normal lens for recording video. Discussion. Bug report.
Some people report that the fingerprint scanner is still not as snappy as in the October 2017 update. Discussion.
To be updated.

Xiaomi needs to fix all this ASAP! Mi A1 has potential, but it seems like they are undermining the device on purpose.

The OP has been updated.

I agree to every single point you have made. The biggest concern for me is the battery, the difference between the battery backup of Oct and Nov update is almost of 1 hour - 1 hour 30 mins of SOT, which is huge!
Also i like how you have pointed out the dialer and contacts application differences, which is a thing I have wondered from the start. Why the hell not just included Google's own dialer or atleast the contacts application since this whole project is a brainchild of Google itself!? Moreover that contacts application sucks, it shows duplicates for Google and WhatsApp and even Truecaller contacts while calling, so a single contact has 3 duplicates for no damn reason, without any option to sort the same out! The default dialer too doesn't show contact picture for incoming or outgoing calls. I wonder why Xiaomi is hell bent on ruining such an awesome device.

Xadus said:
I agree to every single point you have made. The biggest concern for me is the battery, the difference between the battery backup of Oct and Nov update is almost of 1 hour - 1 hour 30 mins of SOT, which is huge!
Also i like how you have pointed out the dialer and contacts application differences, which is a thing I have wondered from the start. Why the hell not just included Google's own dialer or atleast the contacts application since this whole project is a brainchild of Google itself!? Moreover that contacts application sucks, it shows duplicates for Google and WhatsApp and even Truecaller contacts while calling, so a single contact has 3 duplicates for no damn reason, without any option to sort the same out! The default dialer too doesn't show contact picture for incoming or outgoing calls. I wonder why Xiaomi is hell bent on ruining such an awesome device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want it solved and not only to complain, you can fix some of the issues in few minutes. XDA used to be place for mods and tips & tricks, not for whining (MIUI forum is obviously the right place for that).
1. No option to remap "Back" and "Apps Overview" capacitive buttons.
It's not possible even on stock Android. Just install button mapper by flar2 and configure all HW buttons as you wish.
2. No camera2 API and no EIS even though both perfectly supported by software and hardware but disabled only because ...
Install Magisk with appropriate module and modded Gcam.
3. It's not possible to install Google Dialer.
Install Magisk with appropriate module, then install Google dialer from play store.
4. Xiaomi Mi A1 Contacts App is a different app than Google Contacts for no obvious reasons.
Install Google contacts from play store.
5. FM module is present but there's no app for it and it's not exposed to apps (aside from dialling *#*#6484#*#*).
Install Magisk and 3rd party Radio app.
6. Bad audio for video recording.
Install Magisk and appropriate module.

_mysiak_ said:
If you want it solved and not only to complain, you can fix some of the issues in few minutes. XDA used to be place for mods and tips & tricks, not for whining (MIUI forum is obviously the right place for that).
1. No option to remap "Back" and "Apps Overview" capacitive buttons.
It's not possible even on stock Android. Just install button mapper by flar2 and configure all HW buttons as you wish.
2. No camera2 API and no EIS even though both perfectly supported by software and hardware but disabled only because ...
Install Magisk with appropriate module and modded Gcam.
3. It's not possible to install Google Dialer.
Install Magisk with appropriate module, then install Google dialer from play store.
4. Xiaomi Mi A1 Contacts App is a different app than Google Contacts for no obvious reasons.
Install Google contacts from play store.
5. FM module is present but there's no app for it and it's not exposed to apps (aside from dialling *#*#6484#*#*).
Install Magisk and 3rd party Radio app.
6. Bad audio for video recording.
Install Magisk and appropriate module.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With all due respect, you may be rich and would not mind spending 15k on a phone to explore "mods and tips & tricks" in it's first 2 months of use and you may even have all the time in the world to spend on XDA and find the "mods and tips & tricks" for every phone you buy off your money; But, there are people who buy the device and expect things to be good after spending a sum of money which may be more/less according to personal preferences and who would not want to unlock and root so soon. Especially more so when the phone is advertised as a Google initiative Android One phone. I have been on XDA long enough and I don't need someone telling what does it stand for and what counts as "whining" and which forum should I go to do it. I am not fond of throwing bread crumbs to every little pesky things that comes in the way; and I am supporting the OP on the thread on points he have made.
Thank you for your time to point out the obvious solutions.
Ah, also, it seems I have run out of bread for you good sir. Good day!

Dialer and Contacts apps are AOSP ones, apparently Android one uses AOSP ones and Google ones are used on Pixels.

Xadus said:
With all due respect, you may be rich and would not mind spending 15k on a phone to explore "mods and tips & tricks" in it's first 2 months of use and you may even have all the time in the world to spend on XDA and find the "mods and tips & tricks" for every phone you buy off your money; But, there are people who buy the device and expect things to be good after spending a sum of money which may be more/less according to personal preferences and who would not want to unlock and root so soon. Especially more so when the phone is advertised as a Google initiative Android One phone. I have been on XDA long enough and I don't need someone telling what does it stand for and what counts as "whining" and which forum should I go to do it. I am not fond of throwing bread crumbs to every little pesky things that comes in the way; and I am supporting the OP on the thread on points he have made.
Thank you for your time to point out the obvious solutions.
Ah, also, it seems I have run out of bread for you good sir. Good day!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I do spend time on XDA before I purchase a phone. If there is a risk that phone will have low interest in XDA community or it's not possible to root it, I simply pass it and buy something else. It's about priorities, few hours at XDA will save me from weeks/months with phone which I don't like. I would advise the same to you, especially if you don't want to root and mod your phone. Better luck next time with choosing your perfect cheap phone.

Xadus said:
With all due respect, you may be rich and would not mind spending 15k on a phone to explore "mods and tips & tricks" in it's first 2 months of use and you may even have all the time in the world to spend on XDA and find the "mods and tips & tricks" for every phone you buy off your money; But, there are people who buy the device and expect things to be good after spending a sum of money which may be more/less according to personal preferences and who would not want to unlock and root so soon. Especially more so when the phone is advertised as a Google initiative Android One phone. I have been on XDA long enough and I don't need someone telling what does it stand for and what counts as "whining" and which forum should I go to do it. I am not fond of throwing bread crumbs to every little pesky things that comes in the way; and I am supporting the OP on the thread on points he have made.
Thank you for your time to point out the obvious solutions.
Ah, also, it seems I have run out of bread for you good sir. Good day!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I couldn't say better. I don't want to root and mod my phone right off the bat just because Google and Xiaomi cannot properly collaborate. Maybe three/four years later, when its support has stopped, I will root and mod it to hell, but right now I prefer stock experience and locked bootloader because it gives me a feeling of safety and security. I'm not afraid to do banking on my phone, I'm not afraid to make online purchases. Once the phone is rooted, all the hell breaks loose and I no longer can trust my phone.

MI A1 DETAILED REVIEW AFTER COUPLE OF DAYS OF USAGE.
Pros :
1) Potrait shots are exceptionally well in good light conditions.
2) HDR works pretty well in Daylight.
3) The Dirac Sound built in is fabulous both in terms of speakers & on headphones.
4) Build quality is amazing.
5) Voice quality is very very clear.
Cons:
1) Night mode is really really bad.(Too much noise & Shaky pictures are captured ,loses focus most of the time)
2) Lack of image stabilization while clicking pictures in HDR mode as well as normal mode.
(Slight shaking of phone loses focus in HDR mode and makes pictures blurry)(MUST NEEDED IN NEXT UPDATE)
3) HDR mode in artificial light feels too much exposed over bright light and image feels too artificial.
4) No Electronic image stabilization (EIS) while shooting video its too shaky & not upto the mark.(MUST NEEDED IN NEXT UPDATE)
5) 2X shots are not that great when zoomed even 50% and also are much noisy at times.
6) The UI is smooth but feels at times having less transiston.(Forced swipe has to be done from up to down & from down to up)
7) Selfies are bit artificial at times want it more natural and too much beautification is being applied.
8) In phone app while clearing the call history the app crashes and doesn't clear the call history. It force stops.

Oreo beta testing is worthless at the moment. Beta testers all praise how wonderful it is without mentioning any bugs. Either Re Tardos or just unfit for the job.

I have to say I've been very pleased with the December update. The phone feels much snappier coming from the November update which was a mess with the home button issues. Headphone hissing has also been fixed for me in the December update.

_mysiak_ said:
5. FM module is present but there's no app for it and it's not exposed to apps (aside from dialling *#*#6484#*#*).
Install Magisk and 3rd party Radio app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a 3rd party app for radio? Can you give link for this? Thanks.

Is it just me? The hissing noise is much more audible since Dec update. Using Mi In Ear Pro HD. Previously its there but just not that audible. Now its pretty obvious

soralz said:
Is it just me? The hissing noise is much more audible since Dec update. Using Mi In Ear Pro HD. Previously its there but just not that audible. Now its pretty obvious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me it's pretty much the same, didn't notice any improvement or degradation with December update. Still can't use some of my headphones without impedance adapter.

Anyone has any ideas why the photos are 9mp instead of 12mp? It is very frustrating that one fourth of the camera megapixels are deleted somehow.

blackice999 said:
Anyone has any ideas why the photos are 9mp instead of 12mp? It is very frustrating that one fourth of the camera megapixels are deleted somehow.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your camera frame would be 16:9(Full screen), change it to 4:3(standard). And your pics will be 12mp.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/flQfFXBfP0YqizUh2
Visit link if you don't understand

Hey,
thanks for the quick reply, I did change it and now it is ok. I couldn't check the content of the album as it said it is empty,but whatever.

Does sRGB work for anyone? Is it a recognized bug or we will never get proper sRGB colors?

Hello, after december update i have noticed that when i am on mobile data i can't download any apps from google play. I tried different solutios(hard reset, clear cache, clear data, blabla) and nothing really works. Do some of you experience that?

Red Magic Support closed !!!!

Hi,
Not even two months after device was released, it seems that the Support page for the Gobal devices is closed !
When I click on the "Support" on the redmagic.gg homepage, I am taken to a new page that says : "This support site doesn't exist anymore"...
That looks really promising !
So to sum it up :
- Specs announced : brilliant ;
- Global ROM : disaster ;
- Updates to expect : none => the ones given do no apply to the end ;
- Since 2 days no more ability to transfer files over USB ;
- Support site closed...
This device is a pure waste of money.
As a lawyer I'll ask them where they are located and I'll sue them unless they give back support or refund.
Regards.

Wow, i hope This is just a "fail" with the Support Center. If not i will refund also. Could You give us Information what You do now?
Sadly im over the 14 Days..
But is There another way to get refund?

"Oops! This help centre no longer exists
The company you're looking for is no longer using our help centre. We suggest reaching out to them directly via their official website."
I suppose they are switching the support centre, which is a good thing, since support was a joke .
Regarding the global rom being a disaster, the updates not coming ( I just received one ) or the usb not working ( it does for me ) I disagree with you.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Not even two months after device was released, it seems that the Support page for the Gobal devices is closed !
When I click on the "Support" on the redmagic.gg homepage, I am taken to a new page that says : "This support site doesn't exist anymore"...
That looks really promising !
So to sum it up :
- Specs announced : brilliant ;
- Global ROM : disaster ;
- Updates to expect : none => the ones given do no apply to the end ;
- Since 2 days no more ability to transfer files over USB ;
- Support site closed...
This device is a pure waste of money.
As a lawyer I'll ask them where they are located and I'll sue them unless they give back support or refund.
Regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Support is back
https://global.redmagic.gg/blogs/news/update-on-support-07-01-support-is-back-up

em902566 said:
Support is back
https://global.redmagic.gg/blogs/news/update-on-support-07-01-support-is-back-up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Sorry, but it is not.
They're talking about their support MAIL server.
What happens when you click on "Support" on the redmagic.gg page ?
For me it's : "Sorry, this support service is not available anymore".
Regards.

When I click the support icon it opens my facebook messenger...

Nightpwish said:
"Oops! This help centre no longer exists
The company you're looking for is no longer using our help centre. We suggest reaching out to them directly via their official website."
I suppose they are switching the support centre, which is a good thing, since support was a joke .
Regarding the global rom being a disaster, the updates not coming ( I just received one ) or the usb not working ( it does for me ) I disagree with you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Here is the thing for me (my own point of view).
The Global ROM lacks a lot of features you may expect from such a device.
Among other things :
- working dark mode ;
- gesture navigation ;
- always on display ;
- immersive mode (the one here just displays 3 lines in Chinese...) ;
- app lock / persistent apps in Recents ;
- front LED control...
I think all those can be considered as "must-have".
And funny thing is, Chinese ROM has some of them...
Some of the features can be added by installing apps from the Play Store, but most of those require a rooted device.
But if the device is rooted, it seems you won't be able to apply the updates
Speaking of updates : there has been one update.
But if I lok at the changelog, it seems they're focusing on... I could not really determine on what.
But certainly not on adding the missing features everyone is complaining about in the threads here.
But OK, we've had one update... How many others will we get ? And will they gring us the missing features ?
I could do with just ONE addition : the App-lock in recents to make the app persistent.
Of course, you can consider that the ROM is superb : a stripped bare AOSP that allows you to customise to your likings, with 0 bloatware and 0 uneccessary features.
I agree about the USB cable... It stopped working for some reason yesterday. It reworks now. What happened ? That will remain a mystery...
Then about support :
- did you ask them one question ?
- if so, did you get an answer ?
- how long did it take to get an answer ?
- can you access the support page from the official webpage (redmagic.gg) ?
- can you download the Europe/UK version of the ROM ?
I am sorry to say that I am not confident at all that we may have regular updates. And ZTE's reputation in the area is a hard one
Regards.

I would love to have proper dark mode on my phone.
Also, official AOD would be nice, as the AOD apps from the store can't compare with the official AOD of my previous phone ( Samsung S10+ ).
Locking an app in recent is a normal thing, I don't know why it's missing.
Support, as I said, is inexistent. I sent a couple of questions to them and realised from the answer they haven't even undestood me ( probably using Google translate eng - chinese ).
Weirdly, apart from these issues, I love the phone, its build quality, its speed...
And receiving 1 update in 1 month of ownership is something...

Nightpwish said:
I would love to have proper dark mode on my phone.
Also, official AOD would be nice, as the AOD apps from the store can't compare with the official AOD of my previous phone ( Samsung S10+ ).
Locking an app in recent is a normal thing, I don't know why it's missing.
Support, as I said, is inexistent. I sent a couple of questions to them and realised from the answer they haven't even undestood me ( probably using Google translate eng - chinese ).
Weirdly, apart from these issues, I love the phone, its build quality, its speed...
And receiving 1 update in 1 month of ownership is something...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Well, all I have mentioned except the locking app in Recents can be added if your phone is unlocked and rooted.
There's even an AOD Theme for Substratum, and it looks like it doesn't eat up too much battery as the apps from the app store do...
But there is one problem doint things this way.
Most of the apps used need to be enabled in "Accessibility" settings.
So if you can't pin the apps in Recents, deleting all recents just disables all those from accessibility.
So you may loose the dark mode from substratum... but you also may loose any navigation ability !
To be honest : if they could add the app lock in recents (that already is there in the Chinese ROM), I could live with all the limitations...
Good for us : it has 8GB RAM, so even with a lot of apps listed in Recents we're go short on memory.
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Well, all I have mentioned except the locking app in Recents can be added if your phone is unlocked and rooted.
There's even an AOD Theme for Substratum, and it looks like it doesn't eat up too much battery as the apps from the app store do...
But there is one problem doint things this way.
Most of the apps used need to be enabled in "Accessibility" settings.
So if you can't pin the apps in Recents, deleting all recents just disables all those from accessibility.
So you may loose the dark mode from substratum... but you also may loose any navigation ability !
To be honest : if they could add the app lock in recents (that already is there in the Chinese ROM), I could live with all the limitations...
Good for us : it has 8GB RAM, so even with a lot of apps listed in Recents we're go short on memory.
Regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can easily fix your problem
You have to install your app as system app
System apps won't die or close when you kill them in recent app
You can download application called "link2sd"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
You must have root access
Open the application and press and hold on any application you want and press convert to system app
And then reboot
Your application won't die at all and the accessibility menu wont rest

Hi,
Thanks for your advice...
I've tried it and.... IT WORKS !!!!
I think I can now use this device exactly as I want... and will NOT send it back
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Thanks for your advice...
I've tried it and.... IT WORKS !!!!
I think I can now use this device exactly as I want... and will NOT send it back
Regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ur welcome ?

@NexusPenguin,
By reading all your posts,it seems that you're quite frustrated about your purchase,and I'm sorry to see you're so dissapointed...
But this device is primary aimed for gamers,and @ this price point,Nubia had to make concessions.....
TBH,for getting all bells and whistless,people should buy a REAL flagship,not a -500$ phone and then expect the same behavior of it as a +1000$ machine.........

roadworker said:
@NexusPenguin,
By reading all your posts,it seems that you're quite frustrated about your purchase,and I'm sorry to see you're so dissapointed...
But this device is primary aimed for gamers,and @ this price point,Nubia had to make concessions.....
TBH,for getting all bells and whistless,people should buy a REAL flagship,not a -500$ phone and then expect the same behavior of it as a +1000$ machine.........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi @roadworker,
Sorry, but I do not understand what you're saying.
I am not complaining about the hardware, but about the software.
And what I am asking about does really not seem extraodinary to me !
Navigation gestures ? Is that extravagant ? I think not => Chinese ROM has it, not global. Why ?
Lock apps in recent ? Is that extravagant ? I think not => Chinese ROM has it, not global. Why ?
Immersive mode ? Is that extravagant ? I think not. It is even expected in the Global ROM. But what do we have ? 2 lines of chinese...
Working dark mode ? Is that extravagant ? I think not => it is there but is not working.
A support page that actually shows up on the website ? Is taht extravagant ? I think not. It used to be there... Now it is gone.
I think those features SHOULD BE INCLUDED ESPECIALLY IN A GAMING PHONE...
Gestures to hide navigation bar ; theming of phone to make is "cooler gamer" ; locking gaming apps so they launch more quickly ?
So your argument is not relevant at all to me...
Regards.

easy fix for the problem:
go to Settings > System > Advanced > disable Deep process clean.
you're welcome

majidamiri15300 said:
easy fix for the problem:
go to Settings > System > Advanced > disable Deep process clean.
you're welcome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Will try that. If that works, that is super cool
Regards.
EDIT : done it. It seems it is working : thanks so much... Love for the phone beginning to come back... Even better : rooted phone + stripped AOSP = customize exactly as you wish it.

A lawyer should know better
If your a lawyer, I feel sorry for your clients...
There should be an established process with your bank to reverse a charge and a consumer protection agency for you to be able to return a product.
However, Red Magic have stated via Twitter and Blog that they have lost their Support system. That is a bad thing, and probably shouldn't happen to a big company but they have said it has.
https://global.redmagic.gg/blogs/news/update-on-support-07-01-support-is-back-up
If you raise a new call on the system you would probably get a better response. I would imagine they also lost self service and probably have not realised it is still down.

majidamiri15300 said:
easy fix for the problem:
go to Settings > System > Advanced > disable Deep process clean.
you're welcome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What does " Deep Process Clean" do? is it aggressive ram management?

famoustito said:
What does " Deep Process Clean" do? is it aggressive ram management?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Something like that.
With deep process clean on I wasn't receiving any WhatsApp or Outlook notifications.

For those who are not happy with the bare Android experience and for example,about the lack of gestures and immersive mode,check out the apps of Manuel Wrage @ Google Play......

Taking the plunge.

I have ordered a Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra and am now waiting for it to be despatched and delivered. I wish I had found this forum earlier and I might have ordered from a different (recommended) seller. I'm told that despatch will be no later than Friday 4th December - we shall see.
I have ordered the Chinese version and have bookmarked a web page which explains how to access the appropriate settings, not being able to read Chinese, by using icons. I'm hoping that I can get through that to convert to English otherwise I'm stuck. I see that unlocking the bootloader is pretty straightforward so I shall start that process as soon as I receive the 'phone.
I have flashed custom ROMs and rooted most of my previous 'phones although now that I'm 84 I have to work from a printed list of instructions in order that I don't forget something. Bad memory comes with age. I haven't yet decided whether or not to flash the European ROM.
I have seen, on the web two differing opinions regarding the Chinese ROM camera and the European ROM camera. I am buying this phone because of its camera and I have seen remarks that infer that the camera in the European ROM is not as good as the one in the Chinese ROM so I am wary of flashing the EU ROM. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Now I just have to wait.

If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.

batareikin51 said:
If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am supposed to be getting a sealed box which means that nothing extra will have been installed. If I do get a language prompt on first boot then that will make things easy. I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.

BarrySamuels said:
I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"

batareikin51 said:
Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see your point. So there is really no reason to not install the EU ROM. Thank you for your reply.

This has now become purely theoretical as I have just discovered that my local service here in rural Wales depends on Band 20 which this phone doesn't have.
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.

BarrySamuels said:
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that is its Achilles heel
Luckily in my area band 20 is of less significance.
Ultra is a true legend, but there are Mi 11 series' devices coming in pipeline.

I understand that Xiaomi said that they wouldn't produce an international version of Mi 10 Ultra but perhaps that is because one of the new Mi 11 range will have similar specifications. Here's hoping.

I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.

potsykate said:
I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.

sunilstark 1 said:
No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that, if I'm reading write it'll support 5g over here though and 5g is being rolled out in my area.
Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra: Price, specs and best deals
As with the vast majority of Xiaomi phones, the Mi 10 Ultra does not go unnoticed far from it. It has the well-known Snapdragon 865 that we can combine with 8GB, 12GB or 16GB of RAM and a storage capacity that has its ceiling at 512GB. With this data, the AnTuTu score reaches 589,000 points...
www.kimovil.com

If you are in UK then go onto sim that uses EE network which predominantly uses band 3 & 7 for 4G.
I use Three network and not had any issues with 4G. I live in the North East UK

Nobody asked but I am using EE here in Essex and my Ultra gets 5G... giffgaff gets 4G.
By the way, I have never flashed custom ROMs or rooted any of my devices and to be honest I am still comfortable with the Chinese ROM despite the annoying notifications in Chinese. I haven't had the chance to try everything tho, I received my device a week ago.
What do you guys think? Should I aim to flash the European ROM anyway? I think that the warranty is void if the phone is flashed or rooted.

It's up to you if you want to change to EU or not. Yes gifgaf is based on O2, so no band 20 as you have found out. I'm the same too with Sky and EE.
I did move over to the EU ROM as it gives you full GMS over the hacked version installed by the seller but also for the great additional extras to the ROM and the support from the Xiaomi EU forum.
If you've not done any modifications or flashed ROMs it can be daunting but with this phone and it ability to access fastboot, you can practically never brick it. There is always a way of getting back to a working phone. You will need to unlock your bootloader and wait a further 168 hours to do anything but I have produced a guide that takes you through all this if you want and I'm here if you need help, just message me. I have in the past even helped over Skype and remote pc for some.
As all the most recent ROMs are now twrp compatible, you only need your pc to push twrp from fastboot to replace your stock recovery, then install your first EU ROM by twrp. After that you can just use the inbuilt updater to update. Of course it's your preference. If you don't like it, you can always go back stock Chinese, this will remove twrp and you can lock your bootloader again ( can't do this while on EU ROM) and you will be back to how you were. My only advise as you will get your phone formatted when you unlock after 168 hour wait and you must if you change ROM branches too, so make a good off phone back up so you can restore your data.

Here is a list of the EU ROM extras...
Based on China Stable / Weekly builds
Enabled search gesture (swipe up) on the desktop
3way reboot menu (in dev settings)
Dark Mode (Night Mode) for all devices
Removed ads in MIUI system apps
MIUI Dialer and Messages apps
Face Unlock for all devices
Vertical clock widget on lockscreen
Steps counter in Assistant screen
More shortcuts on left lockscreen
Wake up gestures for all devices
AI preloading option in MIUI Lab for all devices
Fullscreen gestures for all devices
Option to auto-expand first notification
Notifications priority settings
More edit options in Gallery app
Enabled MiDrive in File Explorer
Added landscape mode for SMS app
Sunrise/Sunset in the weather app
Google apps support integrated
Removed 5GHz region restrictions
Confirm dials from call logs
Morning report on alarm at morning
More apps supported for AOD notifications
More styles for AOD screen
Raise to wake gesture
AOD notification received animation
Default volume control stream toggle
Tap fingerprint sensor to wake toggle
More Camera features
Double tap to lock screen
Battery AI scenes
Allowed disabling specific system apps
Importing theme .mtz from zhuti.xiaomi.com via ThemeManager
No useless Chinese bloatware apps
More free RAM due to less background processes
Unified flat style app icons for both system and 3rd party apps
Advanced menu with color icons
No any Chinese character under the full system
Mi Video, Mi Music, Mi Browser: No any useless Chinese content
No possibility to re-lock bootloader accidentally with flash any xiaomi.eu release
Added real 27 languages translation made by Official MIUI Fansites and MIUI Fans
Added EU T9 dialer support
Added charging sound switch
Added Screen-OFF animation
Optimized GPS settings for EU
Optimized Battery consumption
Optimized RAM consumption
Added 3D Touch to MI5S 3GB RAM version
Added GSMalphabet into SMS app options
Added more icons grid layout 4x5, 4x6, 4x7, 5x5, 5x6, 5x7 (depends on device)
SafetyNet passed (Google Pay)
Play Store Certified
Deodexed
Added automated tasks in Security app
Added game speed booster
Added erase module (magic elimination) to Gallery photo edit options
Fixed low volume sound via headphone
Charging screen for all devices
Widevine L1 (for supported devices)
And more, and more made by our 9 years MIUI mods experience.

Hey, thanks for that and the document, really appreciate it!
I am still thinking about having giffgaff as my main SIM despite getting 4G. I have 5G with EE on my Ultra but the problem with EE is its signal indoors. For any reason it is pretty bad, even when I am in Central London, while giffgaff runs smoothly. I don't know how many calls I have missed due to that, and apparently I am not the only one with this issue.
This has been happening with my Redmi Note 4 in the last 3+ years and now happens with my Ultra as well, so defo the problem is the network not the phone. I also use giffgaff for international calls, EE tariffs are 5x or more expensive for int'l calls to the same country... crazy!
Regarding the EU ROM procedure, I will try doing so in the next days following your instructions and I will write down my experience here. I reckon I am a bit scared to do so, it's first time I spend that much money on buying a flagship phone (and on any electronics I think) and don't wanna mess it up. However I will post any issues I encounter.
Cheers!

Good luck if you do make the plunge to go EU. As I said, you can always go back if you want to.
Just make sure you have an off phone back up before you start and you have the new ROM ready to copy over from your PC or usb stick. This way you can use fastboot to push twrp, then reboot straight to recovery (twrp) and flash your ROM. There is a good chance the twrp may be in Chinese, so you will need to change it to English. Once done, format data and reboot. Then wait as it will take ages but as long as you see 5G and miui then it will be fine. If you need any support, message me.

Database Info

welcome