Should I buy? - Vivo Nex Questions & Answers

Hello all,
I am very interested in buying this phone. I still have my Xiaomi Mi Mix (that im still trying to sell) and im looking to upgrade to what the Mi Mix shoud've been. I've had a lot of pros and cons to this phone and I want to see if that is still the case. I saw Mr. Mobiles review on the Find-X and was wondering if the New S has the same issues. Please, if you have the phone, had the phone, want the phone and are just holding out for... Mi Max 3/Honor Note 10, please let me know what you think/feel for this phone. I would be very interested.
Does the phone have these software hoops:
Silent or underlivered notifications regardless of system volume settings?
Cant Swipe to dismiss notifications?
no lock screen notifications?
doesnt play nice with custome launchers?
inefficient app switcher?
cant text messages without first logging into an OEM back end?
Prompts for permission to use celluar connection for every single app?
cant use google voice typing, even after Gboard and google voice engine installed?

For me i’m undecided :nex a or nex s

djisma86 said:
For me i’m undecided :nex a or nex s
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A doesnt have the same bands, chek that and you will take the S.

Phaze1585 said:
Hello all,
I am very interested in buying this phone. I still have my Xiaomi Mi Mix (that im still trying to sell) and im looking to upgrade to what the Mi Mix shoud've been. I've had a lot of pros and cons to this phone and I want to see if that is still the case. I saw Mr. Mobiles review on the Find-X and was wondering if the New S has the same issues. Please, if you have the phone, had the phone, want the phone and are just holding out for... Mi Max 3/Honor Note 10, please let me know what you think/feel for this phone. I would be very interested.
Does the phone have these software hoops:
Silent or underlivered notifications regardless of system volume settings?
Cant Swipe to dismiss notifications?
no lock screen notifications?
doesnt play nice with custome launchers?
inefficient app switcher?
cant text messages without first logging into an OEM back end?
Prompts for permission to use celluar connection for every single app?
cant use google voice typing, even after Gboard and google voice engine installed?
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get the global version. no issues

I've the Chinese version with Google play services installed.
I have zero problems, the phone is amazing.
I've logged in with a public Vivo account, so I can change launcher, but stock launcher is good for me.
Everything is working fine, notifications, updates, etc.
I think Chinese, global or Indian version don't create issues for users.
With ADB commands I've deleted all Chinese bloatware, the result is a great battery life.

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Anyone having buyers remorse?

Well, one week till CES where Huawei will announce the US version. Getting excited! But I was wondering. Anyone have buyers remorse at this point? Do you like the Mate 8 more or less as time goes on?
No buyer's remorse here.. I'm quite sure if a N/A version is released there will an accompanying rom as well..
popcity said:
No buyer's remorse here.. I'm quite sure if a N/A version is released there will an accompanying rom as well..
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Thanks. I'm trying to decide whether to get the Mate 8 (Great specs and build), Blu Pure XL (very good specs, cheap, its been rooted and has TWRP - also some promise for developer support) or stay pat with my Note Edge (I do like the edge features and it's screen is basically as wide as the Mate 8, just not as tall. also Marshmallow arrives in the next few months hopefully). Decisions decisions....
mscion said:
Thanks. I'm trying to decide whether to get the Mate 8 (Great specs and build), Blu Pure XL (very good specs, cheap, its been rooted and has TWRP - also some promise for developer support) or stay pat with my Note Edge (I do like the edge features and it's screen is basically as wide as the Mate 8, just not as tall. also Marshmallow arrives in the next few months hopefully). Decisions decisions....
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Yeah, it all comes down to how much do you want to spend.. I bought the 128GB version, I had the Mate 7 so I knew what to expect..
If I could only get notifications working properly then I would be 100% happy.
altaz said:
If I could only get notifications working properly then I would be 100% happy.
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Notifications panel & status bar in settings and permission manager for the apps that are not notifying you.. Hope that helps..
popcity said:
Notifications panel & status bar in settings and permission manager for the apps that are not notifying you.. Hope that helps..
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Been there done that, been through every option and nothing helps. Reading around, this seems to be a common bug with emui, and the only way around this is to disable phone manager or make the apps system apps. Which can't be done without root. So, right now I am playing a waiting game.
altaz said:
Been there done that, been through every option and nothing helps. Reading around, this seems to be a common bug with emui, and the only way around this is to disable phone manager or make the apps system apps. Which can't be done without root. So, right now I am playing a waiting game.
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altaz,
Similar problems have been noted in some of the other threads. Is it possible that the problem you are experiencing isn't due to actual notification issues, but that the apps you are expecting notifications from are not currently being permitted to run in the background when the phone's screen is turned off?
I'm not sure which apps you are having trouble with, but for example, with Whatsapp(?). If this sounds like it might be the issue for you (and you haven't already looked into this), try going into Settings-->Advanced settings-->Battery manager-->Protected apps and allow those apps that should be receiving notifications.
As to the original question of the thread, no remorse. So far so good. A pretty sleek, powerful phone. Just need to get it rooted.
Might be the interactions between marshmelow & emui, if that is the case a fix should only be imenent.
Nevertheless, try this ---> battery manager itself; click on the setting icon up left of the screen, you need to switch on (Keep mobile data on when sleeping).
Of course that is in congunction with the rest of the settings/permissions.
Good luck,
No buyers remorse here. Having recently had a P8Max I knew what to expect with regards to setting up notifications and permissions so they work, and for me currently no particular problems. The camera is not as good as the best of 2015, or even 2014, but I had realistic expectations there and the camera is performing well enough for me in light of the other benefits.
CitizenM said:
altaz,
Similar problems have been noted in some of the other threads. Is it possible that the problem you are experiencing isn't due to actual notification issues, but that the apps you are expecting notifications from are not currently being permitted to run in the background when the phone's screen is turned off?
I'm not sure which apps you are having trouble with, but for example, with Whatsapp(?). If this sounds like it might be the issue for you (and you haven't already looked into this), try going into Settings-->Advanced settings-->Battery manager-->Protected apps and allow those apps that should be receiving notifications.
As to the original question of the thread, no remorse. So far so good. A pretty sleek, powerful phone. Just need to get it rooted.
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Seems this notification problem is becoming more annoying, i have turned on everything possible (permissions, auto start, notifications, ignore optimizations). I even found another layer of settings in the apps settings that allow a deeper level of changes (settings > Apps > Advanced) . And still i can't get emails to notify when the phone is in standby. This is even after i have left the email application on, and turned the turned the phone off via the power button. i've spent a number of hours sending myself emails in various conditions and while might get the notifications sometimes, others i may not so this doesn't help narrow down the cause.
I have now realized that it's not just emails that are affected, i don't get auto notifications in Google Photos or Rewards, and some apps which run on schedule. The google apps only update when i open the app. which is useless for apps like Rewards, since the surveys expire after 24 hours, so go knows how many i have missed since i moved this this phone. I've never had this type of problem with any other android phone, and i;ve had a fair number of them over the years. At this point, since i am not able to return the phone i am thinking that i might have to do a factory reset, and hope for the best.
altaz said:
Seems this notification problem is becoming more annoying, i have turned on everything possible (permissions, auto start, notifications, ignore optimizations). I even found another layer of settings in the apps settings that allow a deeper level of changes (settings > Apps > Advanced) . And still i can't get emails to notify when the phone is in standby. This is even after i have left the email application on, and turned the turned the phone off via the power button. i've spent a number of hours sending myself emails in various conditions and while might get the notifications sometimes, others i may not so this doesn't help narrow down the cause.
I have now realized that it's not just emails that are affected, i don't get auto notifications in Google Photos or Rewards, and some apps which run on schedule. The google apps only update when i open the app. which is useless for apps like Rewards, since the surveys expire after 24 hours, so go knows how many i have missed since i moved this this phone. I've never had this type of problem with any other android phone, and i;ve had a fair number of them over the years. At this point, since i am not able to return the phone i am thinking that i might have to do a factory reset, and hope for the best.
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altaz, no need mine works now. just follow my previous post in this thread.
Just got mine today. No remorse here, and hey there might be a rom to flash once the US variant comes out. I love this phone.
I'll have buyers remorse if one of these other A72 devices gets the same battery life and camera for <$400
I love it coming from note 5. No regrets. Glad i didnt wait for mobile congress as i was very dissapointed with both lg and samsung. Love the mate 8
i agree, while LG had some nifty ideas regarding that modularity, all in all im not much impressed with either the G5 or S7 line... happy camper with my mate 8 indeed
This is probably the first phone I ever got that I didn't get buyers remorse hours after buying it. I've come from a S5, S4 and original Note before.
hours after buying? only phone? well that sounds like someone didnt do proper research first
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Hello.
I am from germany. My Mate 8 is a chinese one with original B162 Rom. Notifications don`t work for me.
What i did:
data in sleep mode enabled
apps are allowed to stay active at sleep
notification in priority mode
rooted device
made WhatsApp and Android Wear (for my huawei watch) to system apps with Titanium Backup (i bought it before ...)
freeze phone manager
I dont`t get my notifications all the time. Very bad are notifications for my huawei watch. My phone rings (WhatsApp), but my watch doenst. Then i start the Android Wear app and the notifications are pushed to my watch.
The phone is ok. I am coming from Samsung S6 Edge+. But the notifications MUST come always.
What else can i try?
(sorry for my bad english)
I had only notification issues with whatsapp - however the situation has improved greatly after I installed the app Push Notification fixer ( no root version)
Now I'd say missed notifications is very very much lessen, probably around 10+ % only
All my other apps eg Maildroid ( only mail app I used), Friendcaster, some newsfeed app, XDA etc no notification problems at all
Mine is China set on B156 firmware ( non rooted)

Google Assistant / "OK Google" Wake-Up and Unlock

@Puksom had said in another thread that he had OK Google working to wake up the phone, but I've heard from many others that it doesn't.
Hoping anyone running various versions of MIUI Global and/or Chinese can chime in if they have this feature working.
If it works for you, please let me know your build number. I can confirm it doesn't work on the latest Chinese stable, but, since I still have another couple days for bootloader unlock, I can't confirm much else.
Note that by OK Google wake-up, I mean with the screen off, and the phone unplugged.
By unlock, I mean that you set a PIN/Password, and that saying OK Google can bypass this lock screen if your voice matches.
(By the way, a somewhat difficult work-around for people who need this feature but can't get it working...)
You can set up, on the Chinese builds, a voice wake-up for the Chinese assistant.
Although you'll need to pronounce it well, you need to program the wake-up word, Xiao ai, by saying Xiao ai tong xue
Then saying "Xiao ai" can make the phone wake up... from there, you can say "OK google" and access assistant. But of course we all want to access assistant directly.
I have that working I'm on official Chinese rom with Google apps and services installed it works ok
I'm running Global Version (9.5.4), and it doesn't work.
When the screen is off, it's not listening. When the screen is on, on the lock screen, it activates, but it doesn't unlock the phone (there's no Trusted Voice), so you need to enter your PIN/pattern.
Trusted Places is not available either, so there is no way to have the phone unlock automatically except using a Mi Band or some other bluetooth device.
@funziebear What is working for you exactly? OK Google with screen off? Does it also unlock your phone automatically or do you have to enter your pattern/pin as well? I though no version of MIUI supported any of those features, based on what I have been able to dug up.
I'm also on the Global Rom and it does NOT work. As well as not having any face unlock options.
Very disappointing.
I'm on official chinese stable. Installed all Google Apps and gave full permissions and autostart permissions to all Google Apps. Installed Assistant and was even able to activate it properly with wake-up and trusted voice. But it's still not working. There was once a message from within the assistant, that said Xiao Ai is still the default assistant and Google Assistant is not set as default.
It's working with screen on, but not unlocking
It's not working with screen off
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I have that working I'm on official Chinese rom with Google apps and services installed it works ok
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Are you sure? Can you say OK Google with the screen off, and it wakes up?
can you guys please figure this out definitively ? Cuz I'm willing to buy the phone, but i will not buy it if google's assistant isn't able to wake-up the phone. pretty please figure it out.
It currently does not work with the screen off.
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It currently does not work with the screen off.
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within your helm of knowledge do you believe it's going to receive this feature in a near-future update?
Cuz I ran into this EXACT same issue with my Galaxy S7 and saw people with Galaxy S6 and S8 facing the same issue, all of them can wake-up the screen, even the word can be configured to whatever word the user wants as long as it is phonetically pronounceable in the 5 most common languages, but the catch is that it only works with Samsung Voice later renamed to Bixby. And I even tried running both Samsung and Google's assistants simultaneously, it doesn't work, they both compete for the exclusive use of the microphone so the idea of using one to wake-up the screen and the other to execute the command is not practical or viable since the second one will only have access to the microphone-audio-stream after the first one released it. So in the end I deactivated the ****ty Samsung Voice crap and decided to stay with Google's Assistant even though it does not wake-up the phone.
what a barbaric decision this is specially coming from Xiaomi. truly ****ed up
Any updates on this? I haven't tried newer MIUI 10 versions, wondering if they added support.
Google Assistant works
Unlock by face works
MIUI 10 8.8.3 xiaomi.eu
k-vadim7 said:
Google Assistant works
Unlock by face works
MIUI 10 8.8.3 xiaomi.eu
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+1
k-vadim7 said:
Google Assistant works
Unlock by face works
MIUI 10 8.8.3 xiaomi.eu
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But unlocking by Google assistant doesn't work
Flatric said:
But unlocking by Google assistant doesn't work
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I take it nothing's changed with the more recent releases?
I tried the MIUI 10 Global Stable, and still no wake-up by voice.

Do notifications work with screen off or not?

Hi all. In this Video the reviewer states that he isn't getting any notifications with the screen off. Also it is a problem for one of our members. Is anyone else having these hassles? Do you get incoming text, email AUDIO notifications without waking the phone?
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I have no issue with notification at all..
Even when screen is off ..
U do have to active notification from each app setting and alow all permissins...
Also keep in maind to keep app running remove battery restriction from app setting also..
All will work normal
Working for me but I did need to grant WhatsApp and Trurcaller lots of permissions.
I even got True Edge installed for a visual way to get notified and that works brilliantly with the device asleep with screen off.
I was a bit surprised at the extra level of permissions needed. It's all gravy now, but I could see why a reviewer or somebody unaware would get caught out
But yes, I am getting notifications with the screen off in sound and visually, without having to wake the phone.
Indeed at first I wasn't getting any notifications but then I discovered you need to go into the app info and give permission for notifications and turn off battery saver.. now it works perfect and only for the apps I want
The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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Have you undone your earlier modifications to the phone (copying files from phone to phone etc)?
You have two problems and the one to ignore for now is louder notifications. It's notifications at all.
It isn't something to fix from Xiaomi's view and it is always worth learning the software. I don't like it myself... It can be cloying etc.
But the default behaviour is to opt in to notifications. It's working as intended. That said look where we are, it's just your problems are a special case. No biggie, let's fix this!
You have an outstanding issue clouding this where you are trying to use unexplained files on the device (like seriously what format are they? Does it work in Music or anything? Have you tried removing them?)
Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
Thanks all for answering my question! I think this is my last question before buying from Liaow.com, if the syncing isn't a constant problem. Does anyone have a major syncing problem as explained in this review? Once or twice a day I can deal with. I check the calendar throughout the day like most people. However if I get busy and forget, missing calendar events/alarms wouldn't work for me. I'd be forced to use my work iPhone<shudder> for calendar events lol.
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Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
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How did you get the icons to show on the lock screen?
Mine doesn't. Quite annoying.
Also sometimes the lockscreen doesn't show me notifications even tho they are there.. :s
I have no issues with icons displaying while locked. You do need to enable them and ensure they start automatically and power control is turned off for the app. It has been much easier in the EU ROM for some reason.
Solution!
Here is the thing that helped me with the same notification issue! Just google "xiaomi mi 10 ultra notifications" and in the top 5 links you'll probably find an article from: theunpopulartraveller. It explains the settings, and they need to be accessed by pressing and holding the app icon ^ app info.
Don't give up, try and you'll get the sounds from needed apps back. And ye, actually now I find the way Xiaomi did it much more convenient: I just turned on notifications for 2 apps, and all the rest are silent, while previously I had to turn off all the rest of the apps (much more than 2, definitely) not to get disturbed by all the bull****.
EU Rom doesn't have the "importance" option at 30/31
Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
AerationCheese said:
Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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Disable adaptive notifications from setting. I dont know what google thinking when creating such feature.
it basically interrupt the whole notification process. Using so called Ai to decide, when to give you notifications or when not to. But most of the time it pick wrong decision and delay our notification altogether.
This is android feature since Q thus also causing problem on Pixel phone. On xiaomi seems like it suddenly got worse on Android 11
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Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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How did u manage to roll back to 12.0.15?
Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
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Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
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There are issues for Gpay and some banking / local safetynet apps for EU ROM which i do not wish to live with.
Somehow the props file in the eu rom causes those issues.
i am probably going to rollback to 12.0.15... now is the excruciating 160 hours wait for unlock.
You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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i don't follow it to the tee, but i've seen some reports of some users not able to use gpay out of the stable roms.
that's why.. too much trouble.. i'll see what i can do when the unlock timer is up..

Google Assistant // Google Services Integration & Notification Issues

Have purchased a Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra, so far so good with speed, charging etc.. however notifications on stock China ROM are a nightmare. Many just simply don't show, despite all battery, notification setting tweaked, locked etc...
The main issue I have is google assistant, it refuses to show screen popup reminders, yet happily makes a notification sound on a reminder. Whatsapp is temperamental, sometimes pushing notifications, sometimes not, sometimes only showing when the app is opened.
Will the EU Rom fix this or maybe wait till Android 11 released before selling the thing. Can't really live without the google integration.
Let me know your thoughts! Cheers.
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Have purchased a Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra, so far so good with speed, charging etc.. however notifications on stock China ROM are a nightmare. Many just simply don't show, despite all battery, notification setting tweaked, locked etc...
The main issue I have is google assistant, it refuses to show screen popup reminders, yet happily makes a notification sound on a reminder. Whatsapp is temperamental, sometimes pushing notifications, sometimes not, sometimes only showing when the app is opened.
Will the EU Rom fix this or maybe wait till Android 11 released before selling the thing. Can't really live without the google integration.
Let me know your thoughts! Cheers.
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Change it into weekly EU ROM. I have no problem with notifications and all Google services.
Great! Thanks for input, will give it a go. China ROM is absolutely useless for Western market.
You have to enable the "Display popup windows while running in the background" permission.
Yup tried that on the google app settings, nothing, still just the sound. No notifications.... very annoying.
habbibi said:
Yup tried that on the google app settings, nothing, still just the sound. No notifications.... very annoying.
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My friend, there are few things that you have to do in order to let those notifications get through MIUI defence :laugh: LOL
Settings->Apps->Manage Apps
Choose an application
So now you would be in 'App info' (for example for Gmail)
1. Get into 'autostart' and enable both options, then get back to previous level
2. Get into 'permissions' and enable at least 4 permissions at the end of the list, then get back to previous level
3. Get into 'notifications' and enable all 6 enablers, beside that, here you have to get into 'Rules for grouped notifications' and choose 'important', then get back to previous level
4. Get into 'battery saver' and choose 'no restrictions'
Voila!
There is nothing more to enable!
It took me a few hours in order to figure it out even though i never seen MIUI before.
Please let me know if it is of any help for you
Thank you so much! Went through all those steps enabled all those notifications, seems there is a channel error for the notification...
Very wierd, all other notifications pop up, just not google reminder, just the sound and the google icon on lock screen at the time of the reminder. Installing and reinstalling google apk doesn't work either. Nor switching on/off MIUI optimisations.
Interestingly when I first received phone reminders working AOK, apart from MIUI forcing assistant back to MiAi every few hours.
Guess wait for Android 11 release, and failing that try EU Rom...
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Thank you so much! Went through all those steps enabled all those notifications, seems there is a channel error for the notification...
Very wierd, all other notifications pop up, just not google reminder, just the sound and the google icon on lock screen at the time of the reminder. Installing and reinstalling google apk doesn't work either. Nor switching on/off MIUI optimisations.
Interestingly when I first received phone reminders working AOK, apart from MIUI forcing assistant back to MiAi every few hours.
Guess wait for Android 11 release, and failing that try EU Rom...
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You can test it now as Android 11 is already published as a weekly MIUI rom (20.11.5).

Change to swipe to answer calls

Hi guys just got my elderly mum a poco x3 today, set it up and all is good except one little thing. She has poor eyesight, when an call comes in it offers two buttons, Answer and Decline. My mum is used to swipe to answer on her old phone, but there doesn't seem to be this option, I even changed the dialler app, but still the same two button option. Not a complex problem but I hope someone has a solution?
Bum
Hi. I assume your Poco is not a Global version. I don't have native MI Dialer on mine. I believe Google Dialer is "stock" for Global ROM and it's swipe up to answer and swipe down to reject a call. It's very limited in terms of customisation and rather simplistic but it does the job. You can install it from the PlayStore. It might be what you're looking for. Unless you want a horizontal swipe.
Try installing Google Phone app from Play store and make it default dialer

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