I've never really heard of Vivo before. What is their history as far as quality? Will the phone last for 4 years of daily use without the systems breaking down?
Define lifespan. Today's penchant for sealed batteries and rapid charge systems make the battery the weakest link with 18 - 24 months of viable life.
Hardware will last forever. Software updates not so much.
if i use non quick charge charger can it lengthen the battery life?
M_R_M said:
I've never really heard of Vivo before. What is their history as far as quality? Will the phone last for 4 years of daily use without the systems breaking down?
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I own a Vivo V3 from 2016 and it still runs as smooth as it was new and no issues with battery and still get minor software updates.
I have my vivo nex since it's launch and its still runs good as new.
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Lithium Ion battery technology, I am pretty sure most people on this forum have a love/hate relationship with it. However, I am hoping that some more knowledgable members of this forum would be able to assist me on this topic.
My current phone is an htc one m7 which was purchased new in September of 2013 (roughly a year and a half old). As of recently I have noticed major drops in battery percentages while the phone is discharging, something very visible on lollipops battery graph. I chalked this up to the death of the cell in my phones battery and their inability to hold the charge as they once did. To be sure of this I recalibrated my phones battery and while this did not improve battery life it has at least made the battery % indicator more reliable.
From what I have read lithium ion has about 500 charge cycles or normally 2 years or so of cell phone use. Obviously my phone seems to fit on the lower end of that median unfortunately. I was already contemplating updating to the new m9 being released this coming March however it seems I am more being forced to upgrade now rather than it being optional. This now leads me to my question:
With the newer generations of phones featuring bigger batteries and more power efficient components will this improve the overall longevity of cell phone batteries or will they still be limited to the 2 year (or in my case less than 2 year) lifespan? This is a major concern for my phone purchase in the coming weeks as I dont want to be in the same perdicement again. As much as I love HTC and have replaced a couple iphone batteries in my day HTC phones are notoriously horrible to take apart and I may opt against them for my new purchase even though Im a raving fan of what I have seen from the m9 leaks so far. Any help with my question or general battery technology knowledge would be of great assistance!
Also I forgot to mention my phone currently gets about 6hrs to 6.5hrs of usage on a charge. Running the newest lollipop liquidsmooth and a custom kernel. Cpu is undervolted and running smartassv2 and noop, furthermore I keep brightness as low as possible and have things such as bluetooth and nfc off. Please note 6 to 6.5hrs is if Im connected to wifi for most of the day if im running on 4gLTE Im lucky to get 4 to 5hrs before it dies.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
fury683 said:
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.
I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?
If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.
so i bought the oneplus 7 pro and now im concerned about the battery aging of previous oneplus devices.
anyone who is using oneplus devices for long time can you guys tell me how does oneplus batteries perform overtime and further more dash or warp charge's effect the overall battery capicity>?
THANKS to anyone who answers this
My 3T is still going strong after almost 2.5 years. Only reason I upgraded to the 7 Pro is a broken screen on the 3T. I almost always used the stock Dash charger with the 3T, and haven't noticed any significant decline in battery life.
Now, I think these manufaccturers will often switch battery suppliers, or use multiple suppliers. So my single data point may or may not be a predictor of how the battery on the 7 Pro will do.
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so i bought the oneplus 7 pro and now im concerned about the battery aging of previous oneplus devices.
anyone who is using oneplus devices for long time can you guys tell me how does oneplus batteries perform overtime and further more dash or warp charge's effect the overall battery capicity>?
THANKS to anyone who answers this
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I am still using my OP 3 will complete 3yrs this coming August. Battery is still going strong for daily usage (except gaming). I have always used the provided dash charger.
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My 3T is still going strong after almost 2.5 years. Only reason I upgraded to the 7 Pro is a broken screen on the 3T. I almost always used the stock Dash charger with the 3T, and haven't noticed any significant decline in battery life.
Now, I think these manufaccturers will often switch battery suppliers, or use multiple suppliers. So my single data point may or may not be a predictor of how the battery on the 7 Pro will do.
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And what about your usage i mean are you a heavy user or a normal user
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And what about your usage i mean are you a heavy user or a normal user
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I would definitely say a normal/light user. No gaming (which is what folks often mean by "heavy" user). Just web browsing, email, video streaming, voice calls, etc.
On the other hand, I also leave my phone on the charger overnight all the time. Which supposedly is bad for long term battery health (leaving the phone on charger, after it is fully charged). But yet, all the batteries on my phone's I've ever had seem to have had decent battery longevity.
OP3, OP5, OP6, OP6T, and OP7 Pro all have had adequate battery life (OP7P so far)
The standby drain is very minimal. There's no need to leave your phone plugged in all night. Put it on the charger when u jump in the shower and it should be good to go when u leave.
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I'd like to have the charging limited to 90%. For that I need to know what the config file is where charging can be disabled.
I have tried /sys/class/qcom-battery/restrict_chg but it doesn't seem to be working.
Does anybody know whether I can make this work and how?
Don't bother, since this phone has a buggy pmic.
Aw crud...
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/input_suspend seems to be working in principle.
Why do you want to limit the charge to 90%? Do you think it will make your battery last longer? Because it's not, I have been discharging to around 15% 5-6 days a week (while at work) and then leaving the phone charging over night (7+ hours), and first time I felt my battery is getting weaker was after like year and a half maybe more, so just don't bother, Lithium batteries are much more durable to a point that limiting your charge and not charging to full and similar nonsense will likely make your battery last even less.
Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
Yea, year and a half before I started to see signs of the battery weakening, I changed it after almost 3 year in my old Mi A2 Lite, before I bought Poco, I think three years is fine, don't you?
I have never owned a phone that went more than two years of adequate charge. The first was mi Mi Max 3 which I charged every other day and never more than 90%. Didn't notice any lost charge after more than 3 years.
Also once the app works, it doesn't cost me anything to do so why wouldn't I?
Try using acc and acc settings
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Try using acc and acc settings
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I have found the file that works. At least so far. Haven't noted any defective chip as someone else suggested... well aside from it not charging very quickly but I mean, I charge over night... I don't care if it doesn't quick charge... should help longevity as well.
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Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
Marco2G said:
That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
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The comparison is very poor, because in the worst case you buy a new battery for €15.
Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel omegle xender 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks.
The key to a long battery life is mostly all about the charging and temp. management. If you root, you can GREATLY extend batt. longevity by setting it to stop charging @ 80%, try not to go below 20% b4 u charge...and cap. ur temp @ 40-45C afaik. Theoretically it should double ur lifespan. I do 90% cuz I usually upgrade every 2-ish years and even that buys u a nace chunk of time. As for the 6a...luv it thus far.
And this...
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
www.androidauthority.com
5 years is a lot to expect from a daily used cell phone. There are only so many charging cycles a battery has in it. Heat management (as stated above) is the biggest determining factor for battery longevity and heat management on these (P6 series) is extremely difficult. I would probably skip this device if 5 years is the goal.
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Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks
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No phone in the price range (or in any price range, frankly) is going to be operating at the same speed after 5 years of use. I'd recommend him to buy a 6/6Pro, or the Pixel 7.
Also, Zaxx mentioned rooting and such - but I guess that can't be expected from an iPhone user (/s).