Worst xperia ever.. - Sony Xperia XZ2 Guides, News, & Discussion

Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.

Really? U din't check before buying?

Complain by Sony and not here !! -__-

I also came from Z3. I have to say that it is a major improvement over Z3.

As a matter of fact, we recognize haters because they always start a new thread instead of posting in the already existing threads... :laugh:

Yeah, the hate is getting way out of proportion.
Many of them who hated this phone never even see the phone in person.

i loathed the design when i saw the first press release fotos...
It looks way better if you hold it in your hands than compared to fotos.
Still could be better.
P.S Someone already reported the thread and asked for moving to Q&A ?

Please close this useless thread !

I came from a z3 and it's a nice big leap in performance. Fingerprint sensor is not in the prefect place but I don't have an issue using it, speakers just fine none of the issues done have. I'm not a fan of the shape out of a case, it's a stupid back and far too slippery, but add I use a case it's not really an issue.
Overall I'm happy.
Next time do a little research before investing so much in a phone. That's not sarcasm, it's common sense.

fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.

chero90 said:
fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.
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I am right handed, and I agree, just the right place. Could never understand people hating on the placement. It's not the same place as other phones. But I like it where it is. The speakers are amazing! And I love the screen. Overall a beautiful phone. The only reason I didn't keep it, is because I work out in the country where T-mobiles service is borderline. Having a phone with great reception is a must for me. And this phone is just average. Really loved everything else about it.

freestyleHTC said:
Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.
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I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?

niaboc79 said:
I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?
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Exactly 100% agree and same meaning what i have ^^
XZ2 is perfect and no issues or problems or something to complain at all

Agreed, those who complained about XZ2 either haven't use the phone and just listened to what haters said or have a faulty device.
I have no complaint about this phone. Perfectly placed fps for aesthetics and ergonomics, lack of 3.5 mm headphone jack is a pity but I can tolerate it, and the design and ergonomics are fantastic.

For me missing is only noice canceling feature in XZ2 or other new line of xperia

This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.

Nothing wrong on my LCD screen even when hot surface.

michal89chz said:
This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.
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Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!

Pandemic said:
Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!
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Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.

MartinX3 said:
Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.
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And can u see any difference?

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Does it sound like your Camera lens (flash) is loose when shaking the phone?

it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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yup this slight tapping noise from the top where the camera is located or in that area, how strange.... now you have set my OCD off! lol
Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.
no it's not the sdcard, battery or sim card.. it sounds like something inside the camera area.. like by the lens or the camera flash is jiggling around inside..
hold your phone, shake it a little bit and see if you hear anything around that area..
does anybody else have this sound?
Jerks
Now I will never stop hearing that. I have to return the phone.
Mostly kidding, yeah, I hear it. Forget about it.
okay so it sounds like all of these phones make that noise huh?
I dropped my phone the other day in the sink (opps)... and after that is when I first noticied this sound.. so I don't know if it was like that from day one and I never noticied or if because I dropped it that caused it to start happening and then I was anal about the phone being okay after I dropped it thus that's when I noticied this sound..
you guys ever drop your phones? or you hear this from day one?
I havent dropped my phone and i can hear the sound.oh well not a big deal
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so I guess this is just how all of these Droid Charge's are brand new..
imnuts said:
Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.
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Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Well, while I agree with you about being able to make it better, you can't really compare machining tolerances to injection molding tolerances (which is how the bulk of this case was most likely made). There are a lot of factors that go into injection molding that you don't have to worry about with machining (draft angles for example).
Plus, they're making millions of these... the tolerances were probably created such that the probability of the parts not fitting together was reasonably low with respect to the price of each piece, so you can afford to scrap some units. Then there's the statistical variation from lot to lot, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
This is coming from experience in both areas. I'm a mechanical engineer who's designed both big honking machined metal parts and tiny intricate injection molded plastics.
In the end, they're only going to design and manufacture these parts as well as they need to. Sad truth.
true but regarding injection molding it's all how precise the mold is built... you build a mold right on the money, you get a part right on the money..
anyhow back on topic... I don't think it's the ejection molding, etc. that's making this noise.. it almost sounds like the camera lens or flash is lose or something inside the phone right behind the camera lens is moving around. I took the cover off and held the sd card, sim card, battery, etc. in place with my fingers, shook the phone and still hear this sound...
no big deal.. just a little annoying.. when you put the phone up to your ear to answer a call, etc. you can hear this rattling noise inside the phone..
I hear it too. I also hear a similar click, in the same area, when the phone boots up. no biggie though.
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aliensquale said:
mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
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Heads up, you're going bald!
aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
droidxscott said:
Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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so it must be something to do with the auto focus?
Hear it also!
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Could be an orientation sensor, I remember a phone in the past use to have a tiny rattle to it and thats what it was.
you are right!!!! the sound goes away when you activate the camera app.. infact when you activate the camera app and hold the phone steady you can hear a single click noise from the camera... must be something with the focus, etc.
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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I hear it too in my brand new Charge. It works great, camera does too. I'm pretty sure it has to do with image stabilization, which is an option in our default camera app. Image stabilization in cameras typically mounts the image sensor on a little rig that can move around independently of the camera body, and has some means of stabilizing it (usually gyroscopes and/or servos). My guess is that Samsung somehow figured out how to make some compact system for providing image stabilization (maybe a magnetorheological fluid?) for such a tiny sensor. I can't really guess how it works, but it does seem to work quite well in producing crisp images.
The fact that the camera rattles slightly all the time except when you're using the camera app would certainly seem to confirm this.

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I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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thunderbls said:
I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
85gallon said:
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
Div033 said:
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
scrosler said:
-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.
Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???
Div033 said:
Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html
xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.

Xz sucks bigtime

Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ?
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Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ
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So far I've owned a Z, M4 Aqua, Z3, briefly used a Z5 and I seriously have difficulty seeing how the XZ or XZs for that matter could be a downgrade in any aspect. The only thing I can't get over not having is the magnetic charger plug I had on the Z3, I would trade the fingerprint scanner for that in a heartbeat.
What do you mean there's no difference in using voicalls through earspeaker and loudspeaker? The speakers on this thing are way better in loudness, bass and clarity compared to both Z3 and Z5. Apart from the HTC One M8 I used briefly, XZ is the best I've heard so far. That BoomSound on HTC is insanely good, and when you take the phone apart it becomes clear why, those speakers are huge.
What's wrong with the double-tap?
Do you maybe have a defective unit on your hands???
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So far I've owned a Z, M4 Aqua, Z3, briefly used a Z5 and I seriously have difficulty seeing how the XZ or XZs for that matter could be a downgrade in any aspect. The only thing I can't get over not having is the magnetic charger plug I had on the Z3, I would trade the fingerprint scanner for that in a heartbeat.
What do you mean there's no difference in using voicalls through earspeaker and loudspeaker? The speakers on this thing are way better in loudness, bass and clarity compared to both Z3 and Z5. Apart from the HTC One M8 I used briefly, XZ is the best I've heard so far. That BoomSound on HTC is insanely good, and when you take the phone apart it becomes clear why, those speakers are huge.
What's wrong with the double-tap?
Do you maybe have a defective unit on your hands???
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It takes atleast 4-5 attempts to wake the device by double tap. I've searched and found that it happens often when device goes to sleep on its own.
They said its a software bug, but already running 7.1.1 and i'm still waiting for a fix.
And regarding speaker sound I dont know if you have used z5 but I've used it for 1 and a half year. I do feel like there is awfull low sound from speakers.
Being a pioneer in sound quality this is really bad from sony. Some might say its a trade for waterproof, but S7 edge is doin quite fine.
My XZ is just one month old btw. It has been imported in oct 2016. Been quite a long time on shelf, but hope that has nothin to do with anything.
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It takes atleast 4-5 attempts to wake the device by double tap. I've searched and found that it happens often when device goes to sleep on its own.
They said its a software bug, but already running 7.1.1 and i'm still waiting for a fix.
And regarding speaker sound I dont know if you have used z5 but I've used it for 1 and a half year. I do feel like there is awfull low sound from speakers.
Being a pioneer in sound quality this is really bad from sony. Some might say its a trade for waterproof, but S7 edge is doin quite fine.
My XZ is just one month old btw. It has been imported in oct 2016. Been quite a long time on shelf, but hope that has nothin to do with anything.
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Do you know the double-tap works only on center region of the screen? Once I learned that, it made a lot more sense and I have no issues with that any more. It's like that by design and on purpose, to prevent accidental double-tapping.
Uhm...have you compared the sound from the S7 Edge and the XZ? It's night and day, in favor of the XZ. Dude, there's either something wrong with your unit, or you are talking nonsense.
Actually, there are a couple of videos comparing this on youtube, iPhone 7 included, the XZ beats S7 by a mile in sound.
What do you mean on the shelve? Like in the store display or on the shelve at home in a box? If it was the second one, doesn't matter. If it was a display unit in the store...yes, it matters.
The XZ should be better thatn Z5 in every aspect, no question about it.
Yes, I used Z5 briefly, before it I used the Z3. I was very dissapointed by the overheating and battery life so I went back to Z3 and now XZ. Z5 is a beautiful phone, at first I was very happy to get it after Z3, but in practical terms it became a nightmare for me. Nothing to this day beats the battery life of my Z3. And that magnetic charger was a thing of beauty, unfortunate they ditched it.
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Do you know the double-tap works only on center region of the screen? Once I learned that, it made a lot more sense and I have no issues with that any more. It's like that by design and on purpose, to prevent accidental double-tapping.
Uhm...have you compared the sound from the S7 Edge and the XZ? It's night and day, in favor of the XZ. Dude, there's either something wrong with your unit, or you are talking nonsense.
Actually, there are a couple of videos comparing this on youtube, iPhone 7 included, the XZ beats S7 by a mile in sound.
What do you mean on the shelve? Like in the store display or on the shelve at home in a box? If it was the second one, doesn't matter. If it was a display unit in the store...yes, it matters.
The XZ should be better thatn Z5 in every aspect, no question about it.
Yes, I used Z5
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I had no problem waking Z5, here i am just comparing both. Its not like i had to tap on the middle of the phone on Z5.
By Shelf I mean its in a retail packaging but unsold.
My phone is brand new.
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I had no problem waking Z5, here i am just comparing both. Its not like i had to tap on the middle of the phone on Z5.
By Shelf I mean its in a retail packaging but unsold.
My phone is brand new.
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I get that, it works differently on the XZ than Z3 and Z5, the double-tap doesn't work on the edges of the screen, try it. It's by design, and once you learn that, it's fine, just tap near the center region. It's like on laptop touchpads, the edges don't react to click gestures, only scroll and such, it's to prevent unwanted taps. Why is this a huge issue...
I was actually happy with this because the Z3 would unlock on its own in my pocket, i don't have that issue with the XZ.
So, have you compared the sound on S7 to XZ yet?
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I get that, it works differently on the XZ than Z3 and Z5, the double-tap doesn't work on the edges of the screen, try it. It's by design, and once you learn that, it's fine, just tap near the center region. It's like on laptop touchpads, the edges don't react to click gestures, only scroll and such, it's to prevent unwanted taps. Why is this a huge issue...
I was actually happy with this because the Z3 would unlock on its own in my pocket, i don't have that issue with the XZ.
So, have you compared the sound on S7 to XZ yet?
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Sorry, I've not compared yet. I'm in my home town now (Village).
I'll compare once i go to my work place.
I agree, I'm really regretting going for the XZ after the Z3.
In my case performance and battery life are the main issues, although the speaker volume also annoys me, but it wasnt better on the Z3 so i cant complain.
I usually travel in hot countries, last week i was in Kuwait and it was 38-40 c ambient, so naturally, the XZ with its thin metal back got very hot very quickly and reached 46c doing basic stuff like phone calls and whatsapp. It got so slow I wanted to break it in half; it hangs, its slow, its not so smooth (all compared to the 3 year old Z3) and this all starts at around 38-39c.
Also battery life is very inconsistent; sometimes I get 4 hrs SoT, sometimes like yesterday (normal day without anything special) I get 2 hrs.
One more thing; out of no where something melted inside the charging port and the charger wont go in properly anymore, the phone is always in a case and nothing goes into the port.
If my Z3 hardware didn't give up I would've kept using it, unfortunately I'm stuck with the XZ until the next Pixel comes out. I'm also working on fixing the hardware parts of the Z3 that are damaged and going back to using it again with the XZ as a second phone for camera and media consumption.
agentsandy007 said:
Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ
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Double tap is working fine after. 417 fw.
Loudspeakers aren't the best. But not the worst. Some smartphones do worst than this. On call i agree only one defect on 1000 pros. But root solve that.
I have compared z5 from xz... And xz is far away better and stable. Z5 thanks to snapdragon 810 have a confused battery. Sometimes is Great, Sometimes is horrible. Camera is very worst, performances too. Fingerprint too. Only pro is speakers.
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Double tap is working fine after. 417 fw.
Loudspeakers aren't the best. But not the worst. Some smartphones do worst than this. On call i agree only one defect on 1000 pros. But root solve that.
I have compared z5 from xz... And xz is far away better and stable. Z5 thanks to snapdragon 810 have a confused battery. Sometimes is Great, Sometimes is horrible. Camera is very worst, performances too. Fingerprint too. Only pro is speakers.
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My device is runnin 41.2.A.2.199
But as Atrax stated middle of the screen works fine for double tap. But it sure is annoying coming from z5. I just don't feel like it as a feature.

XZ2c first impressions

I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!
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I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!
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So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:
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So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:
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wonderful chief, this is great news! :victory:
this is the only nice phone being released nowadays not having a huge 6" screen or damned edges/notch so... :good:
hope to see you too here around soon so! great we can expect wonderful contributions from your side :good::victory:
I can't wait to see what the camera can do with the gcam hdr+
Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.
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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?
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Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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same here.. color and excitement I used sony for long, then abandoned it for some time, now I am going back... ATM I have a s7 flat but really can't get used to it don't like samsung at all..
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?
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in all recent sony phones unfortunately they use to add some proprietary sw alghoritms for improving the camera performances or other visual things that once you unlock your device's BL get lost. and can't be retrieved anymore or at least it is not very easy (in certain devices you can backup and restore them later, in some others you can't). so basically often if it is not a good choice to unlock the bl to flash a custom rom or even to just root your phone as the camera performances would su*k afterwards.. also because of this development on sony phones is pretty small and slow...
let's see how it goes with this new model, if drm keys will still be there what we would lose exactly unlocking the BL.. hope nothing too important it would be a pity cause with treble support we could expect some more development!
I saw the xz2 compact couple days before first time in local store. was pretty impressed. It was the black one. Looked a bit like a small business phone. I was just to buy a Pixel 2 after i returned my galaxy s9 due to light leak. but i saw it and could play with it a bit and compare with Pixel 2. I was not so impressed by the pictures and thickness of xz2c in the web after announcement but after holding it i can say the design is pretty perfect for me. No sharp edges anymore that are hurting your palm while holding it. The IPS Display was bright, sharp and colorful without oversaturation. The blacks are almost at OLED Level in comparison to my old z3 compact. Whitebalance is perfect and if you dont like it you can change it a bit warmer or colder in the settings. Finally no burn-in danger like on amoled. In my hand it did not seem so thick like on the pictures in the web. IT was comfortable to hold. Fingerprint scanner is much better located on the xz2c than on xz2. its higher and easier to reach. Vibration motor is finally better and not like on xz1c or xc. it was like a crazy bee in the the past. now perfect. Camera is also definetely better. Not on s9 or pixel 2 level in lowlight but really a visible improvement. of course the s9 can get more light at night but for me its ok. but wish it would have dualpixel autofocus. frontcam has also no auto softskin filter applied like in the past. Additionally Dual sim and sd card. maybe some will be able to port the gcam portrait mode to this nice phone. speakers are louder. not perfect like S9 with dolby atmos but a very good solid performance. maybe also someone will be able to create a mod with atmos support. the buttons could be a bit harder. i fear that in your pocket they could be pressed unintentionally. additionally i hpefully also get the hear on headphones or a ps vr in germany. a nice bonus. Android 8 runs perfectly smooth and quick on the device. much quicker than on any galaxy phone.
Finally my long search has now an end. i have returned my Galaxy s9 due to repeating light leaks. xz2c should arrive next week after easter and my z3compact can finally go to well deserved retirement.
Does anyone know if you can change the navbar order still via system ui tuner? would like to have
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thanks for sharing your early impressions! sounds good! I too hope I found a nice compact phone again to stay with for some time rather than changing it continuously looking for the best solution :laugh: I also had a green z3c which was beautiful, but this time the green version seemed pretty dull on web pictures, so I went for the white/silver one...
but in this nice (ITA) review I saw yesterday, green seems much more vivid and nicer, more like my old z3c! don't know if this is the real green in the end, but if it is, I think it was better than the white :crying:
had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
btw can't wait to get it.. hopefully in about 10 days maximum from now? :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: about the navbar order, really don't know, hope so cause I too prefer back button on the right! :silly:
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had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
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there was only black. i was also thinking about the silver/white one. Couldnt see it live. But i rather like more black at front and white or silver back so i have choosen the black one
Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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mine (same color) should be arriving today! :victory::fingers-crossed:
i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam
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i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam
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just got mine and first impressions are.. wow! so beautiful in white and silver color.. really much better than I expected, from the images I was little worried but looks very nice in my hand! doesn't feel too heavy or thick to me, even after applying tempered glass protection and a cheap transparent cover for the back.. and usage with one hand is perfect! so far so good.. will see if I see problems later one.
only down side for me so far is the curved screen, that makes the glass protection to raise a little on the sides :crying: I expected that because of the curved screen, but I bought a smaller tempered glass meant to cover only the flat part of the screen so I hoped it would have been better, but still looks not so nice.. just aesthetic of course but don't like it.. damned curved screens and who invented them!
boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!
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boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!
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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand
got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!
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got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!
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yeah the s9 feels more balanced since it has 5gramm less and its bigger so the feeling is a bit different. the xz2c feels like a car with very heavy motor in the middle or back.
wonder if sony have put some bricks inside to make it so heavy.
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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand
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i really like how much easier it will be to carry this phone around while wearing shorts; the note 8 is so large and heavy, my shorts wont stay up, and here is Arizona, you wear shorts every day!!
typing on the small keyboard is sort of a pain too, with my big fat fingers so it will take a while to get used to that too..great sound and great display, thats for sure!

5 Major flaws with this phone

#1: The sd/sim tray is so poorly designed it'll actually not slot into place properly and I've used this device for only a few minutes. This means the IP rating is basically useless since if anything sips in due to how the tray is designed it'll leak straight to the screen and everything else. I've tried to use minor force to slot in in the place "properly" but the thing is that the flat part that covers the slot wobbles meaning it is not static, which means we have a topkek moment a la Z1-5 flap issue all over again.
#2: The sd card reader is gimped, less than half (getting 1/3) the speeds compared to say the XZ1.
#3: Now let's talk about the elephant in the room shall we? The glass backside, It's not flat! Meaning it can't sit on anything with a slight decline like your bed, pillow, or anything slippery for that matter. You either buy a derpy case or live with the fact that this device can't even sit flat unless otherwise.
#4: Weight was added for no reason, and a lot of people tend to believe that weight equals quality, but in this case it had no reason whatsoever. And what's the best of it all?! Said weight made it thicker, which means they had plenty of space to add that headphone jack that was removed because they had to follow the fruitcake trend. And because it's rounded in the rear, it makes the actual thickness seem thinner than it's predecessor which is around 2-3mm thinner which has guess what? A headphone jack! And don't give me that BS about needed cooling, the S9 is thinner (about the same as the XZ1) and comes in both Exynos and SD flavors.
#5: Let's remind ourselves once again why the headphone jack was removed, not to mention a lot of regions won't even ship with any headphones (nordic region here) which felt kinda cheap, but at least they provided a dongle!
I got a pair of MDR-EX650AP and WH-H900N if anyone is wondering and both come in handy, trust me.
Goto admit I love my XZ2 and I only agree with you on No.2 and No.5...
2... Im using a Samsung 64GB 95mb/s SDCard andthe read speed is rubbish.. this is my second XZ2 and its exactly the same.. so it tells me theres a software issue.. In both the SONY Music app and using the home screen widget, from pressing play.. It takes about 3 secs before music starts playing.. and Im getting lag when accessing phot9os and files on SDCard... theres been 2 updates so far... 145 and 159.. and neither updates have fixed this
5.. Dont even mention the stupidity of removing the Headphone jack from devices ... its been a thorn in everyones side since HTC, the first Android Dev to follow Apple with this "Sheep" like trend on their U Ultra last March 17.. and now its a thing... do you know what really gets me is everybody complains about on forums, yet nobody goes on a Devs Twitter or FB page and says "I was going to buy your phone, but because you removed the 3.5 jack, Ive bought a Samsung instead"... do you know, if everyone started saying that.. we'd have the Jack back by 2019... because regardless of the device you actually buy.. theres nothing worse for a DEV than critisism on their front pages.
Anyway... I think the XZ2 is a gorgeous device, beautifully weighted, stunning.. yes, STUNNING and simple camera, great speakers.. anda great screen, No its not perfect.. buts its pretty good
I'd also add the downgrading of the front camera to 5mp from the 13mp in last year's XZ models. Though I wonder if that could have been a space issue at the edge for the module.
It's the one thing (well and the SD card speed) that is keeping me from upgrading from an XZ1. Though if the price gets low enough...
And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
The camera is still bad ala sony
Allesa said:
The camera is still bad ala sony
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Camera isn't that bad. But don't use the Auto Mode!
I've made some comparisons (maybe i can show one later at home) and the auto mode is just bad. It makes blurry pictures, especially the darker areas. Switching to manual mode with auto settings raises the quality extremely. Don't know if that's a bug or whatever...
No wired video out is a big one for me...
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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Install vlc (playstore). It nearly all types of media files.
Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
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Get a proximity wake app like Gravity Screen from the store and you won't care.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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Weird, no blur on my H8296 6GB.
adwinp said:
It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Weird, mine is fine.
There is also a bend and scratch test on YouTube to demonstrate it.
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
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There are water resistant speakers which break physical laws and transmit the sound through water without any quality degradation?
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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1. Water will block sound waves, not a huge amount you can do with a phone.
2. Not an issue for me as I use my left ear and my little finger is the other side of the USB.
My most annoying thing on this phone is the XZ2 is very slippery!! Cannot even sit calmly if there is a slight angle on the surface! Have to buy a case to prevent this though...
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
tomo100brt said:
You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
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"Dumb" is impolite, but I can understand you.
Everyone who had physics in school should understand this behaviour.
Btw.
I hate 2 things
1. The DRM **** (it is my first Sony phone)
So I hope for a drm fix which doesn't reduce the camera quality if used with aosp and gcam.
2. The slow, undocumented sdcard performance of 20mb/sec.
The only flaw that stops me from buying anything from the XZ2 line-up is the sad lack of development support, specially custom kernel development.
Sadly enough.

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