SD Card - Moto G6 Accessories

Hallo Everybody.
Tomorrow my Moto G6 will I arrive and I want to order a SDCard.
Does it matter which one I choose?

PeterImmel said:
Hallo Everybody.
Tomorrow my Moto G6 will I arrive and I want to order a SDCard.
Does it matter which one I choose?
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Yes and no.
From my personal experience: Current SDCards are prone to suffer errors. When internal hardware fails, you tipically get a read-only-card. And I experienced it with different brands, from Samsung to Kingston. So my suggestion is: purchase the bigger that you can pay with the maximum quality. Don't waste time with speeds. The duravility is the most valuable thing. And try to: read all you like from the card, but write only the necessary. The lifetime is based on writes.

PeterImmel said:
Hallo Everybody.
Tomorrow my Moto G6 will I arrive and I want to order a SDCard.
Does it matter which one I choose?
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I use the same Samsung Class 10 128 GB memory card on the next third phone for almost 4 years. I'm happy with her.

manos78 said:
Yes and no.
From my personal experience: Current SDCards are prone to suffer errors. When internal hardware fails, you tipically get a read-only-card. And I experienced it with different brands, from Samsung to Kingston. So my suggestion is: purchase the bigger that you can pay with the maximum quality. Don't waste time with speeds. The duravility is the most valuable thing. And try to: read all you like from the card, but write only the necessary. The lifetime is based on writes.
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What if someone wants to use the adaptive storage feature? Won't that cause the phone to do a lot of write operations ?

kemoti said:
I use the same Samsung Class 10 128 GB memory card on the next third phone for almost 4 years. I'm happy with her.
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Hi, this is the exact same model that just failed to me last time... after only 2 months of work!
I only recommend *PRO* (made for video capture) SD-CARDs for intensive writes!

manos78 said:
Hi, this is the exact same model that just failed to me last time... after only 2 months of work!
I only recommend *PRO* (made for video capture) SD-CARDs for intensive writes!
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It's weird. This card I wrote about works without any mistakes. I formatted it myself after buying on a computer on FAT32 to be sure. There are also no problems with video recording. But ok, maybe you have not had luck.

kemoti said:
It's weird. This card I wrote about works without any mistakes. I formatted it myself after buying on a computer on FAT32 to be sure. There are also no problems with video recording. But ok, maybe you have not had luck.
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The problem with SDCards is this: anytime one card is different from another one, even the with same model. The reason is because in fact any SDCard is a collection of flashable blocks... and all cards have errors. In the comodity range of cards, the number of over-provisioned blocks is small. Moreover the active blocks aren't heavy checked. And the SoC that controls the card doesn't have robust algorithms. The result is, after some time doing writes the card starts to fail... until it deads.
In the other hand, SD *PRO* cards are very different. You can write a lot without fails.
So, if you only need to READ from a card (for example, with a MP3 player), then you can use ANY card. But if you need to WRITE to it (for example, in a smartphone; or with a digital camera) then use ONLY *PRO* cards.
I comment this after years of dead cards. Belive me!

And the faster the better, if it isn't fast enough the phone will tell you (when doing the card as internal storage)

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[Q] The truth about micro SD formatting??

So todays deal of the day offered a bunch of Sandisk cards, I ordered the 64g sdxc class 10 card which is in exfat formatting. Now, I have been reading over and over the same things about the correct format for our device, but no clear definitions on what the real deal is, just if there was any problem the answer was "format to fat32". Now its clearly stated that exfat is supported by our device, but other variants have apparently dropped this support on recent updates. That info is useless to me because all I care about is our variant. So what is the deal, keep the exfat format or convert to fat32? Not being able to move over 4gb would kind of be a pain, but obviously do not want issues. Does keeping in exfat have security risks of losing your info or not? I could care less about nandroids going on the card, so lets eliminate that issue which apparently calls for fat32. There are too many conflicting threads about this issue, so searching this toppic is pretty useless as its a bunch of single issues with no true ties to the fundemental truth. I really want some reliable info here as I have about an hour to cancel this order!!!
annoyingduck said:
So todays deal of the day offered a bunch of Sandisk cards, I ordered the 64g sdxc class 10 card which is in exfat formatting. Now, I have been reading over and over the same things about the correct format for our device, but no clear definitions on what the real deal is, just if there was any problem the answer was "format to fat32". Now its clearly stated that exfat is supported by our device, but other variants have apparently dropped this support on recent updates. That info is useless to me because all I care about is our variant. So what is the deal, keep the exfat format or convert to fat32? Not being able to move over 4gb would kind of be a pain, but obviously do not want issues. Does keeping in exfat have security risks of losing your info or not? I could care less about nandroids going on the card, so lets eliminate that issue which apparently calls for fat32. There are too many conflicting threads about this issue, so searching this toppic is pretty useless as its a bunch of single issues with no true ties to the fundemental truth. I really want some reliable info here as I have about an hour to cancel this order!!!
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exFat has to be supported by the kernel, so it depends on the kernel you're running. If it's not supported you'll have to use FAT32. It's as simple as that. (blame Microsoft)
I formatted mine to FAT32 as a kernel I wanted to try didn't support exFat. Haven't looked back since... It's not that big of a deal to me as 99% of my files are under 4GB, and the ones that are that size have no business being on my phone.
Simple truth, I love it......
Thanks for a solid answer. You have a preferred method for formatting to fat32?
annoyingduck said:
Simple truth, I love it......
Thanks for a solid answer. You have a preferred method for formatting to fat32?
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I used some miscellaneous formatting program I had installed for some reason, but the included Windows format tool does just fine.
annoyingduck said:
Simple truth, I love it......
Thanks for a solid answer. You have a preferred method for formatting to fat32?
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Yea phone will support extFat but some roms/kernels don't. And no recovery does. If you have files such as movies over 4GB put them on internal or compress a little. I will PM you the format app.
annoyingduck said:
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Thanks for a solid answer. You have a preferred method for formatting to fat32?
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Most of them work, but from what I've read the stand is SDFormatter from SDCard.org. This is the worldwide SDCard Association for setting industry memory card standards.
prdog1 said:
Yea phone will support extFat but some roms/kernels don't. And no recovery does. If you have files such as movies over 4GB put them on internal or compress a little. I will PM you the format app.
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Nice, thanks pr. If the only issue is the 4gb transfer, that's practically not an issue at all for me, lol.
The card will still be stable after formatting? I keep all my ti backups, media, zips, etc on it, would rather not have to copy to my computer as well if not needed. I've not yet experienced a card "crashing", and don't want too either...
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Nice, thanks pr. If the only issue is the 4gb transfer, that's practically not an issue at all for me, lol.
The card will still be stable after formatting? I keep all my ti backups, media, zips, etc on it, would rather not have to copy to my computer as well if not needed. I've not yet experienced a card "crashing", and don't want too either...
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They had some bad ones in the beginning from the reports but I have had same card since phone pre-order release with no problems using TWRP.
thanksss
David_mclaren said:
thanksss
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Is it possible to partition a SD card for my phone so that I can enjoy both worlds on the same device?
use this program...
http://db.tt/s0jAvdQ7

Increasing performance via MicroSD?

I've seen a few posts about people saying the NAND controller in the TF700 is slow and that is what causes a number of performance issues. Is this NAND in charge of both the internal and external cards or did they select a poor one just for the internal memory and went with a better quality controller for the external?
One reason I'm asking is that I saw a few people under the CleanROM thread mention that they moved a bunch of their apps over to a fast USH-1 MicroSD and it make a huge difference. But, if the controller was slow and shared across all cards, then that shouldn't help as the bottleneck would still be there. So, are they mistaken or does moving apps (Data2SD was the app they mentioned allowing them to do this) alleviate performance issues?
If it did alleviate issues, couldn't we use this to our advantage and install the OS to a USH-1 card and use internal memory for storage only? Or, come up with a good way to strategically place all applications on the available storage card as a part of rom installation.
OR, people are wrong and there's no way performance could be improved as the NAND is shared.
Can anyone speak to this?
I think one of the advantages is that the USH-1 cards are much faster than the NAND memory in the TF700. I plan on picking one up when time permits to find out for myself.
However I'll admit I have no real understanding of how it works. Many seem to be supporting it though, and I think Scott plans to implement it into his kernel so there must be something to it.
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You must be talking about the Data2SD mod in the development section.
I'm planning on doing this when my Sandisk 64gig UHS1 card gets to me.
Thats OK said:
You must be talking about the Data2SD mod in the development section.
I'm planning on doing this when my Sandisk 64gig UH1 card gets to me.
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I guess maybe I'm mixing up terminology or what I've read.
I thought what people were saying is slow, wasn't the memory in the TF700, but the memory controller that manages the memory. I've seen people say "NAND Chipset", as saying that the specific chipset is cheap and they should have went with a higher quality.
Now, if the controller is not bad but hey went with cheap and slow memory, then this makes much more sense. Using that mod to move apps to a UH1 card would drastically improve performance. I also ordered one (this morning) from Amazon which should get in tomorrow. From there it sounds like I'll be playing with that mod.
I'm more interested in the performance bump than extra storage.
Is this the proper card?
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=3695074&pid=1218427115873
If so, its a great deal.
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Biohazard0289 said:
I'm more interested in the performance bump than extra storage.
Is this the proper card?
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=3695074&pid=1218427115873
If so, its a great deal.
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This is what I ordered:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...treme pro uhs-1 microsd&qid=1351174744&sr=8-5
According to benchmarks its the fastest of the microSDs you can get at 90mb/s.
spinaldex said:
According to benchmarks its the fastest of the microSDs you can get at 90mb/s.
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Can the MicroSD Card slot read/write at 90mb/s?
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Mmmmm....
My understanding is, that the Hynix (formerly Hyundai) controller used for data built in has deplorable read\write speeds.
Hynix just brands certain products and some unknown maker stamps out the hardware.
Evidently moving the data partition along with system cache to a speedier better quality external SDcard plugged into the tablet will hopefully double read\write speed.
The system ram is another story.
It's all about getting system data to move a lot faster from system disc to ram to cpu.
Kind of like changing a hard disc out in a PC.
I have no idea how these devs are doing this with coding, yet if it works and stays working I'm gonna have a party!
As far as the cards go I'll have to do a lot more reading around these forums to judge what may be best.
I've read the "Ultra Hi Speed" cards work well.
It's weird tho they come in class 6 and 10.
I believe the key for a good card is being able to write small files 32kb or so very quickly on random calls from internal processing.
I keep confusing myself with all this...it will straighten out after two more pots of coffee...
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Can the MicroSD Card slot read/write at 90mb/s?
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In theory yes, but in real life, NO. I have tested a few digital cameras using card with 90mb/s and I never achieved this speed, (it hits 90 for like a second then quickly dropped to about 40-44mb/s). A good example is a 30mb/s you are getting less for read and even smaller for write. But if you get the 90 card, it's still better than the 30 (must compared with same manufacture and same class).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/SDCardSpeedTests
Here is a link to some SD card speeds.
A couple on the list I've tested and my results were about the same as this list.
As always there are newer cards out that read faster that aren't on this list.
Thats OK said:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/SDCardSpeedTests
Here is a link to some SD card speeds.
A couple on the list I've tested and my results were about the same as this list.
As always there are newer cards out that read faster that aren't on this list.
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That is a good resource, however at the bottom it says those speeds are established by a large file transfer. Since we are replacing internal I/O we need small file transfer right? I'm still researching and I could be wrong though.
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Biohazard0289 said:
That is a good resource, however at the bottom it says those speeds are established by a large file transfer. Since we are replacing internal I/O we need small file transfer right? I'm still researching and I could be wrong though.
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True!
Small file fast writes are best.
Android won't have to deal with massive files.
Based on this, it sounds like there is an improvement in performance when using the cards. Now I just need to read the thread on that mod so I can take full advantage of it.
spinaldex said:
I've seen a few posts about people saying the NAND controller in the TF700 is slow and that is what causes a number of performance issues. Is this NAND in charge of both the internal and external cards or did they select a poor one just for the internal memory and went with a better quality controller for the external?
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I researched a bit and came up with this:
The internal storage is connected to the CPU/SOC roughly like this:
[ Tegra 3 ] --- MMC interface --- [ NAND controller ] --- NAND-specific interface --- [ NAND memory array ]
Everything beyond the MMC interface is inside the eMMC chip. So the NAND controller that is slow is part of the Hynix eMMC.
Tegra 3 has 4 SD/MMC interfaces. One of them is connected to the internal eMMC, the other one to the microSD slot. The full size SD card in the dock is connected to the tablet indirectly via USB, very much like a cardreader on a PC.
There is also a NAND flash controller inside Tegra 3 - AFAIK this is not used in the TF700. The advantage of using an eMMC is that wear leveling can be offloaded to the eMMC and the software doesn't need to care.
spinaldex said:
If it did alleviate issues, couldn't we use this to our advantage and install the OS to a USH-1 card and use internal memory for storage only?
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The internal eMMC is not that slow for reading, its main performance bottleneck are random writes. So keeping the system apps on the internal storage is probably good enough since the ROM is read-only in normal use, but putting the data on an external card apparently helps a lot.
I picked up an 8gig Ultra Class 10 at best buy for $11.00. I'll give it a go when I get home.
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64gb micro sd card ;) = success

Samsung 64GB Class 10 UHS-1 Grade 1 70MB/s MicroSDXC Pro Memory Card
this is the one I am using just thought that I would share this for anyone else wanting to know.
Hi mate, could you confirm that sd card is working? Today I contact samsung support and they told me that only works up to 32gb.
If it support 64gb would be great! I also have doubts if only the standard sd line, or if plus and pro also works with it.
But could you use all 64 GB?
I am also considering a 64 GB microSD, but it would be useless if I could only be using 32 GB. Maybe try to drop some large files on your card to test?
FYI
I've been using sandisk 64gb class 10 without any issue
59.46GB of usable space.
Enjoy
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FYI
I've been using sandisk 64gb class 10 without any issue
59.46GB of usable space.
Enjoy
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Hi dillalade.
Is there any pre-requirement (maybe special formatting) for using a 64gb sdxc card with the realy? I'm using the original stock firmware, and samsung support told me only 32gb are allowed.
Thanks in advance!
ninguno2 said:
Hi dillalade.
Is there any pre-requirement (maybe special formatting) for using a 64gb sdxc card with the realy? I'm using the original stock firmware, and samsung support told me only 32gb are allowed.
Thanks in advance!
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I recall having issues with my 64gb sd not reading, it was a 'format' issue.
See this post for resolution if you need it ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33419784&postcount=474
dillalade said:
FYI
I've been using sandisk 64gb class 10 without any issue
59.46GB of usable space.
Enjoy
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dillalade said:
I recall having issues with my 64gb sd not reading, it was a 'format' issue.
See this post for resolution if you need it ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33419784&postcount=474
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Oh, i see you need to format as FAT32. But in that case I suppose it would not support files greater than 4gb, i'm right?
ninguno2 said:
Oh, i see you need to format as FAT32. But in that case I suppose it would not support files greater than 4gb, i'm right?
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that's correct.
I'm using a Sandisk Ultra UHS-1 64GB card in my Relay 4G without any problems. Just yesterday had it down to about 8 GB space available, confirming it works past the 32GB barrier. I did have to do an update for Windows XP on my dad's laptop before I transferred files to my external HDD a few days ago, but otherwise had no problems there. (It wasn't till yesterday I deleted some files on the phone that had been copied to the drive - I wanted to keep some vids on the phone for a while and was handpicking them.)
Now if only I could interface directly with my 2TB hard drive (I have it in an enclosure with its own power source), without needing the laptop.
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Now if only I could interface directly with my 2TB hard drive (I have it in an enclosure with its own power source), without needing the laptop.
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It should be possible, as our phone support USB.
I tried to find some videos on yt if that works, but only this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFGUmDqRKHE
But is not that subject of course, maybe we can move it or make new threat.
Seems interesting anyway.
So the trick is to format the SDCARD in FAT32 instead of NTFS. And the drawback is you can't have a file (music, movie, whatever) that's over 4GB. Okay. Can't think of what one file would be that much, so that seems like a decent compromise.
So I guess my only question is: if you're taking a file, as in drag in drop, from your NTFS hard drive on you computer and placing it on your FAT32 SDCard on your phone, will there be any problems? As well as any problems doing it in reverse?
EpicMikeNC said:
So the trick is to format the SDCARD in FAT32 instead of NTFS. And the drawback is you can't have a file (music, movie, whatever) that's over 4GB. Okay. Can't think of what one file would be that much, so that seems like a decent compromise.
So I guess my only question is: if you're taking a file, as in drag in drop, from your NTFS hard drive on you computer and placing it on your FAT32 SDCard on your phone, will there be any problems? As well as any problems doing it in reverse?
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There should be no problems in either direction, especially if you're doing it over MTP/PTP to your phone.
Another option is to format the card as ext4, which Linux and Android support natively, it's stable, and supports files up to arbitrary size (There is a limit, but it's quite a bit more than the supported maximum card size of the Relay)
Magamo said:
There should be no problems in either direction, especially if you're doing it over MTP/PTP to your phone.
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I didn't think of this till you responded, but my USB 4GB flash drive is FAT32 and I transfer files from the 60GB hard drive on my laptop, which is NTFS, all the time. I typically do drag and drop, or I transfer via bluetooth.
Another option is to format the card as ext4, which Linux and Android support natively, it's stable, and supports files up to arbitrary size (There is a limit, but it's quite a bit more than the supported maximum card size of the Relay)
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I've never heard of ext4, but I'll research it. In any case, from the looks of it, the Relay 4G can use 64GB micro sd cards! :good: :highfive:
I think it will depend on your hardware. Mine does not support 64 gig cards in any format on any rom... *sniff*
Hmm... I put in a generic 64 GB card from Amazon.co.uk and it worked out-of-the-box
hardy81 said:
Hmm... I put in a generic 64 GB card from Amazon.co.uk and it worked out-of-the-box
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Is it still working two months later? And if so, what's the brand of the generic 64 GB card?
orange808 said:
I think it will depend on your hardware. Mine does not support 64 gig cards in any format on any rom... *sniff*
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I got a 64gb on eBay that works for me...I can give you a link...works perfect while in ROM however has issues with flashing anything..so I use my 16gb card for that
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guys, i bought a sandisk 64gb microSD XC ULTRA (not HC) and i dont know if it will work, if someone already test a card like this please share me your experience, ty a lot guys
faidesk said:
guys, i bought a sandisk 64gb microSD XC ULTRA (not HC) and i dont know if it will work, if someone already test a card like this please share me your experience, ty a lot guys
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it works without any problems, just put it, if is in other format the phone will ask you to format to a compatible 1

Here's how to configure adoptable storage on your S7 / S7 Edge

Finally there is a way to make this adaptable storage happen,
Here is the link
Modaco
ikm19 said:
Finally there is a way to make this adaptable storage happen,
Here is the link
Modaco
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not working for me, at&t variant. my id shows 179,0, not 179:XXX.
That might be a blessing. My first question was going to be how much of a performance hit did you take? It would be nice to have the option though.
Curious what the performance hit is too.
the reason why it failed was cuz card is "too slow". using that sandisk 200gb card. i have a samsung 64gb pro + card in my g4, and apparently this also works for that too. tried it and success.
At least there is apparently still a safeguard to prevent most of the people crippling their phone with cheap SD cards. I hope that when Samsung adds this officially, it will limit it to at least UHS 1 U3 cards.
The whole phone memory will be only as fast as the SD inside
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so if you get the 179,0 reading your saying that the SD Card is too slow to use as adaptable storage yeh?
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so if you get the 179,0 reading your saying that the SD Card is too slow to use as adaptable storage yeh?
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It won't get that fast reads since it is limited to UHS-I so up to 90/MB reads/writes. Internal memory is in the 200 MB/s range so yes, it will be a huge downgrade if you use the adoptable storage.
I would like an answer for this: if I`m opening a file from sdcard (Samsung 32GB class10) and editi it, when I try to save it again, I can only do it on phone storage. Why? My sdcard it`s listed in storage like SD Card(7CD-1711)
Can someone explain, please, and tell me what to do so I will be able to save my files to sd card?
The Modaco method doesn`t work for my SM-G935F S7 Edge
Thanks in advance
I have been using this function with my 128gb Sandisk from day one.
I have moved most large apps to the SD card. In addition, I already have a part of my music collection on there as well. Have not noticed any slowdown whatsoever!
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That might be a blessing. My first question was going to be how much of a performance hit did you take? It would be nice to have the option though.
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you take a hit. I did it on my m9, used class ten, 96 write speed. wasn't horrible on every process and app but the apps it did effect were very noticeable.
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so if you get the 179,0 reading your saying that the SD Card is too slow to use as adaptable storage yeh?
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In the source link the syntax is different. You need to do it the same as YOUR card displays. I've done it with a 200gb card.
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Uea ibcan confirm i did 179,0 on my exynos s7 with a 64gb pro + and it worked fine.
mixxxk said:
the reason why it failed was cuz card is "too slow". using that sandisk 200gb card. i have a samsung 64gb pro + card in my g4, and apparently this also works for that too. tried it and success.
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How you changed your fonts?
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That's a screenshot of my G4.
And when I did that it showed 179,64. As it was a 64 gb card. I didn't have any real world slowness, but if u run A1 bench tool and see the read/write differences, they definitely exist.
Today I purchased a 64 GB Samsung Pro+ (Plus) micro sd card. It says it has up to: 95 MB/s read & 90 MB/s write. I benched it at 50/40 today. I manually set the adoptable storage following the procedure outlined in the MoDaco post. I used the info returned by the command that tells you what is available to use as adoptable. It worked, but is also returning a wrong storage total (I believe that the reason for this is because the SD card basically gets filled with a file that can be encrypted, so the total amount of storage that your SD card has gets added to the storage total both as it's actual space and as the file size, this is a guess but seams somewhat plausible). I am getting 73.64 GB used out of 128 GB. I have 32 internal and 64 on the sd but only 59.14. So max is 96 but it says 128 total and a lot used.
I just done this looks like it worked with a sandisk 200gb memory card but if i install a app now where will it install?. And also whats the option under storage more and migrate data for? do we need to do that?
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It won't get that fast reads since it is limited to UHS-I so up to 90/MB reads/writes. Internal memory is in the 200 MB/s range so yes, it will be a huge downgrade if you use the adoptable storage.
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90MB/s is nice when talking about sequential reads, but most microsd cards are going to be around 10x slower than UFS in small random reads/writes, which is where most of your phones performance is going to come from in terms of storage IO.
I think doing this stops downloading certain apps can someone try amazon sholppig or netflix says its not compatable with your device since i done this adoptable storage.
jutley said:
I think doing this stops downloading certain apps can someone try amazon sholppig or netflix says its not compatable with your device since i done this adoptable storage.
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Mine still works to download and use amazon shopping. I also have Netflix installed and this also still works.
Mines a UK phone.

SD card problems

Hello I'm posting on behalf of my sister who is having issues with the SD being set as internal memory in Android Marshmallow. The device is a factory unlocked device and currently has a Class 10 16Gb Sanddisk micro-SD card.
We have also tried a slower Class 4 card (same capacity) and am still having issues. I think the phone has been dropped a few times but these issues are annoying my sister so I was wondering if we should do an RMA or is this behaviour common?
But what was the exact problem you/she faced?
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itechy said:
Hello I'm posting on behalf of my sister who is having issues with the SD being set as internal memory in Android Marshmallow. The device is a factory unlocked device and currently has a Class 10 16Gb Sanddisk micro-SD card.
We have also tried a slower Class 4 card (same capacity) and am still having issues. I think the phone has been dropped a few times but these issues are annoying my sister so I was wondering if we should do an RMA or is this behaviour common?
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What is the problem exactly?
And BTW, a Class 10 card is not fast enough for internal memory, a Class 4 will downright either frustrate you or flat out cause errors... If you're going to use it as internal (adopted) storage, you need a quality, brand name card with a minimum UHS1 rating, but a UHS3 card is preferred.
The device is saying that the SD card cannot be found randomly and due to this deletes apps / stuff stored on internal storage.
And a UHS 1 is equal to a class 10 card
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itechy said:
The device is saying that the SD card cannot be found randomly and due to this deletes apps / stuff stored on internal storage.
And a UHS 1 is equal to a class 10 card
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No, just a class 10 card is not equal to a modern UHS1 card, not even close... The minimum speeds are similar, but in real life the read, and more importantly write, speeds are 4-8 times that of just a class 10 rating, especially for extended periods of read or write. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3221163 Trust me, in real world especially when used for internal memory the difference is quite noticeable.
But back to the problem... Assuming you have tried clearing the cache partition in recovery, and possibly a factory reset, Most of the time this issue of random disconnection goes back to one of two things, a poor quality microSD card or poor connection of the phones card reader. The first one is easy to test, pickup a Samsung EVO+, SanDisk Extreme, Lexar 633x, or similar high quality card and test, if it still fails then there isn't anything you can do about except contact Moto customer service for repair.
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itechy said:
The device is saying that the SD card cannot be found randomly and due to this deletes apps / stuff stored on internal storage.
And a UHS 1 is equal to a class 10 card
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Did you ever find a fix?? I had the same issue with two phones. It would say the card ejected and id have to restart to correct it. I have used 4 different cards including a UHS-1 class 10. It has to be a software issue. Wonder if this feature worked in 6.0 and stopped in 6.0.1?? Maybe fix in Nougat? What a pain!
shawndak said:
Did you ever find a fix?? I had the same issue with two phones. It would say the card ejected and id have to restart to correct it. I have used 4 different cards including a UHS-1 class 10. It has to be a software issue. Wonder if this feature worked in 6.0 and stopped in 6.0.1?? Maybe fix in Nougat? What a pain!
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If this is the case that you have tried several cards, it's probably a handset hardware issue, not a software issue... Nougat likely won't fix it.
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Well I'm still under warranty wonder if they'd replace it with a 16gb model. Only reason I got the 8gb was due to the adaptable storage option. What a pain!
shawndak said:
Well I'm still under warranty wonder if they'd replace it with a 16gb model. Only reason I got the 8gb was due to the adaptable storage option. What a pain!
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Your issues are not normal... Better to get if fixed even if you only get an 8GB model back, if it works reliably.
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The problem is with two phones bought at different times, doubt it'd be an issue with both. Are you using adaptable storage no problem on moto g3?
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The problem is with two phones bought at different times, doubt it'd be an issue with both. Are you using adaptable storage no problem on moto g3?
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I was... My son is using it now with no issues.
Out of curiosity... What brand/model cards have you used? It has kind been a trend that lower quality cards have issues. We have moved to SanDisk Ultra or Samsung EVO+ almost exclusively
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acejavelin said:
I was... My son is using it now with no issues.
Out of curiosity... What brand/model cards have you used? It has kind been a trend that lower quality cards have issues. We have moved to SanDisk Ultra or Samsung EVO+ almost exclusively
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Using adaptable storage??? With apps transfered? I've used both of those cards haha but you're saying it works flawlessly? What exact card and your fully updated as well? Thanks
shawndak said:
Using adaptable storage??? With apps transfered? I've used both of those cards haha but you're saying it works flawlessly? What exact card and your fully updated as well? Thanks
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Yes... No issues on stock or Resurrection Remix rom with adopted storage. I used a 64GB Samsung EVO (none + version)
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Hmm I've been using 32gb ones. The phone works perfectly with portable storage so it blows my mind the issues that is has with ejecting or saying the card isn't there. If it was physical you'd see it with portable storage as well I believe. Do any of the custom Roms give more user space? Once again thank you!
Sister is testing out a new UHS 1 card and has so far (3 days) experienced no issues...
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