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Hi, I searched the forum but had no luck:
Completely new Nexus 5, White 16GB, and I have this issue:
When i receive and miss a call, as soon as the ringer stops the phone automatically shows the unlocked homescreen and it just stays there, instead of locking itself normally. This is really weird, and happens even if the phone is in my pocket (so it's not sensor-related like whatsapp pop-ups for example). Also not really safe i'd say. If I select another lockscreen method, it behaves normally (showing, for example, unlock pattern for a certain amount of time before turning the monitor off again.)
Anyone experiencing the same issue?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1q04f7/nexus_5_unlocks_itself_after_a_missed_call/
This is the only other reporting I found on the web. Can anyone test this? It's really fast and easy, and I think this could be a pretty serious issue.
My phone (pin locked) doesn't do that. Phone stays locked. Is your phone kept unlocked?
jj14 said:
My phone (pin locked) doesn't do that. Phone stays locked. Is your phone kept unlocked?
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Yes. I don't really like the pin/passcode unlock (also don't really need it). Classic slide is simple and fast enough, but it's crazy that it stays unlocked after a missed call.
Also, I noticed that it automatically enters the last application that was open the last time you locked it, creating even more concerns (last online on messaging applications, online status in facebook, ecc.)
Just imagine you boss calling you, with no luck, and founding out a second later you're online in Facebook. Just because you were ignoring your phone, while driving for example.
themcfly said:
Yes. I don't really like the pin/passcode unlock (also don't really need it). Classic slide is simple and fast enough, but it's crazy that it stays unlocked after a missed call.
Also, I noticed that it automatically enters the last application that was open the last time you locked it, creating even more concerns (last online on messaging applications, online status in facebook, ecc.)
Just imagine you boss calling you, with no luck, and founding out a second later you're online in Facebook. Just because you were ignoring your phone, while driving for example.
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I agree - that should not be the expected behavior
nexus5 32gb here, exactly the same behavior.. I had to enable a pin/password unlock method because every missed call would unlock my phone, even in my pocket..
I have the same issue.
Maybe it is because of the app Light Flow Lite ?
mr_smith1 said:
I have the same issue.
Maybe it is because of the app Light Flow Lite ?
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I thought this as well, but then I tried it on my friends N5 and had the same behavior, without light flow. I think many of us actually discovered this trying notifications in Light Flow (i bought the pro version) but it's not related to that.
kowloon12 said:
nexus5 32gb here, exactly the same behavior.. I had to enable a pin/password unlock method because every missed call would unlock my phone, even in my pocket..
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Me too, but I hate it because I can't swipe down from the top to quickly see my notification without unlocking the device first.
Let me know if you guys have any advice on this issue, also report it in this thread to keep it bumped and see if anyone is reporting any solution.
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Me too, but I hate it because I can't swipe down from the top to quickly see my notification without unlocking the device first.
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exactly this, it was so useful to just throw a glance to the notifications to decide if open them or simply clean them away
Yes same here, this looks to be a bug surely?
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OK thanks,
I reported the problem on google discussion (I copy/paste our first topic because you explained the problem very well ^^).
the URL:
"https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-5/KML5nWW9q6o"
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OK thanks,
I reported the problem on google discussion (I copy/paste our first topic because you explained the problem very well ^^).
the URL:
"https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-5/KML5nWW9q6o"
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Nice one, I have posted in that discussion as well. Hopefully we will get a response.
Others have the same problem, do you know how to report a problem to google ?
I just tried it on my phone, called from my desk number, missed call. It did open the phone all the way, but the screen turned back off in 5 seconds, per my settings.
My phones is currently stock, have not rooted or unlocked the bootloader yet. Only UI modification apps are Widgetzoid and Dashclock, I wanted to stay stock for a bit.
Sorry, that you are having issues. Unfortunately sometimes the easiest way to figure out what is causing the problems is to do a factory reset, and re-dowload your apps one by one, to see what is causing the problem.
Ok, but a several people have the same issue ...
Anyway, I think I will tri not to miss a call whenever the phone is in my pocket !
Zandeer said:
I just tried it on my phone, called from my desk number, missed call. It did open the phone all the way, but the screen turned back off in 5 seconds, per my settings.
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I don't like setting the screen timeout so short, many thimes i just place the phone on my desk while messaging and I want the screen to stay on, for at least 2 minutes.
And when I lock my phone to keep it in my pocket, it's supposed to stay locked and ignore any unintended touches as soon as i slide to unlock, which was originally introduced to prevent an unlock by accident. Yes, I could lower my screen timeout to 5 seconds, but that does not solve the problem because still unintended touches can occur in that time frame.
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I don't like setting the screen timeout so short, many thimes i just place the phone on my desk while messaging and I want the screen to stay on, for at least 2 minutes.
And when I lock my phone to keep it in my pocket, it's supposed to stay locked and ignore any unintended touches as soon as i slide to unlock, which was originally introduced to prevent an unlock by accident. Yes, I could lower my screen timeout to 5 seconds, but that does not solve the problem because still unintended touches can occur in that time frame.
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I wasn't sing o set your screen lock time to what I have it set at, I was just saying that it did re-lock. However, you are right, IMO it should not completely unlock the screen when the phone is ringing.
Though I have never not had a passcode on my phone, so not sure if that is how it always behaves. Was just trying to test and be helpful.
I sent a message to the google team, let's wait and see.
here is a link to see the bug :"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSTq8Xhe6Kc&"
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I wasn't sing o set your screen lock time to what I have it set at, I was just saying that it did re-lock. However, you are right, IMO it should not completely unlock the screen when the phone is ringing.
Though I have never not had a passcode on my phone, so not sure if that is how it always behaves. Was just trying to test and be helpful.
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Thanks for testing, I was wondering if this could have been related to root / unlocked bootloader somehow but you have confirmed this is not the case as it happens on a totally stock phone.
good catch there. same issue here.
at least a Google employee has responded to the topic created HERE. Maybe that will expedite then pushing out an update ASAP.
Hey guys - over the years I've noticed that if I want an Android answer, XDA PROVIDES!
So here goes:
I've got my new sexy Nexus 5 (RIP Nexus 4, my bad bro) and I love face unlock. it really really really works well now... last time I used it was like on my galaxy nexus way back, and it wouldn't recognize me 90% of the time.
So anyways, I'm looking for an app (like Tasker?) that:
- doesn't need ROOT (company policy, our email stops working if it detects an unlocked bootloader or SuperSU)
- has widgets
- can switch between face unlock and swipe to unlock with a single push (not having to re-take pictures of my beautiful mug)
Any ideas?
(the scenario is simple: outside of my home WIFI, I want face unlock. While on my home WIFI, remove all security... hell, I'm home!)
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Hey guys - over the years I've noticed that if I want an Android answer, XDA PROVIDES!
So here goes:
I've got my new sexy Nexus 5 (RIP Nexus 4, my bad bro) and I love face unlock. it really really really works well now... last time I used it was like on my galaxy nexus way back, and it wouldn't recognize me 90% of the time.
So anyways, I'm looking for an app (like Tasker?) that:
- doesn't need ROOT (company policy, our email stops working if it detects an unlocked bootloader or SuperSU)
- has widgets
- can switch between face unlock and swipe to unlock with a single push (not having to re-take pictures of my beautiful mug)
Any ideas?
(the scenario is simple: outside of my home WIFI, I want face unlock. While on my home WIFI, remove all security... hell, I'm home!)
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Ask and ye shall receive:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.benhirashima.skiplock&hl=en
Unfortunately, you have to pay to play after the 4 day trial, but highly regarded and good ratings. Probably worth the couple bucks or whatever it is.
Thanks I'll check it out ... SkipLock or WIFI Unlock? Both seem to do the "same thing". Reviews are so-so, speaking of pricing...
MitchRapp said:
Thanks I'll check it out ... SkipLock or WIFI Unlock? Both seem to do the "same thing". Reviews are so-so, speaking of pricing...
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SkipLock is the newer one from the same developer. I'd disagree about the reviews. I'd say a 4.4 out of 5 rating from 2100+ reviewers is pretty solid.
I've used Skip Lock.. it's a good app and works really well. However, I don't think you're going to be able to accomplish what you want to do without root
You can try Tasker + Secure Settings but I suspect if Skip Lock needs root for toggling Face Lock, Secure Settings will too (if it does it at all)
crachel said:
I've used Skip Lock.. it's a good app and works really well. However, I don't think you're going to be able to accomplish what you want to do without root
You can try Tasker + Secure Settings but I suspect if Skip Lock needs root for toggling Face Lock, Secure Settings will too (if it does it at all)
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Ah, good catch. I missed this: - Only passwords or PINs are supported on non-rooted devices - in the description. Sorry OP!
ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
Audigy187 said:
ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
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Settings>>Google>>Search & Now>>Voice>>OK Google Detection - In here you can set options to secure this feature to your liking. Notice the 'Trusted Voice' Option which detects its YOU before unlocking. There of course is room for error where someone sounding similar to you in might be able to get it. That's why these features are there to disable if it matters to you.
I personally don't care much..
Cheers!
(There might be a faster way to get to those settings. That's just how I always remember to do it)
And it also makes you acknowledge everything you just said before enabling trusted voice.... you must've missed that part.
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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How long has your friend been using their V20? I know they become much more accurate the longer you use it, similar to the fingerprint scanner. Google has you train it to understand you with 3 sets of 'ok google' but that doesn't mean it's done learning. Give it some more time maybe? Just thinking...
hes been using it for 4 about a week now. the v20 is a nice. i feel it is noticeably faster than the note 7 i had. only issues are the screen it average. Its sharp but color is average. the hole phone vibrates from the speakers which is a downside for me.
Ill give the pixel some time to learn my voice and report back. hopefully i cant fool it lol
Try this
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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Press power button while Pixel is in sleep mode. That will bring up the lock screen. At the bottom of the screen you will notice a fingerprint icon. Tap that and you will get the message "Device will remain locked until you manually unlock."
No amount of saying "OK, Google" will allow access now until you either use the fingerprint scanner or enter your pass code.
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
wase4711 said:
as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
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Thats horrible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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km8j said:
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
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Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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nednednerb said:
Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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Well 1) the voice recognition isn't good 2) we want the functionality 3) the assistant could act on limited functionality: weather, reminders, send texts, make a phone call. If someone gets my phone and wants to manipulate a voice to send texts, whatever. This is how moto handled their voice assistant and it was perfect.
Oh this thread is now a feature request? It was about a security issue. Things can change.
Give Google feedback through "about phone" in settings! Maybe they will add the feature.
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Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
HeCareth said:
Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
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Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
Sounds about like the guy I sold a Gear 2 Neo too. I was showing him how to use some things and he freaked out when the Trusted Device feature left his phone without a passcode. So we disabled it, then he wanted to add a passcode to the watch to get get into it which really only works if it's disconnected from the phone. He was pretty honest about his reason. He's cheating on his wife and didn't want her to find out.
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Janker5050 said:
Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
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It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
km8j said:
It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
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When I click on it in settings it tells me directly that it can be "less secure."
Yep. So it is not a flaw. It is a feature.
You should feel informed by the warning in settings, not like "it doesn't work.."
It is a fact more voices are similar and voices are easier to mimic than... Fingerprints. Rhythm and pitch are easy to steal. Ever hear of a cover band? Or confuse yourself which band you're listening to because of singer? If never... Wow dude.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
thejase said:
I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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Agreed
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
nujackk said:
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
@thejase
I get that but I don't use it as I'm the opposite phone should be locked when not in my hand never know what will happen,who may come over to visit I have lots of nieces and nephews. One who grabs any phone he can.
But I meant it to be fast enough that it's as if it's not locked.
If you want to stick with
Smart lock have you tried use the voice feature it may work.
Also look into Tasker I seem to remember someone using it to unlock the device based on location. I use it to turn on and off my Wi-Fi based on location. Auto start my music when in my truck.
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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Seems to be working better today. Disabled the "smart lock" in trust agents setting under fingerprint and security, then booted to the stock recovery and wiped the cache only. (I'm not rooted yet, but TWRP would work for this as well). Seems to have led to a fix, but it could be temporary. As for usefulness of smart lock, I am not worried about others in my own home taking my device and combing through it for all I care. If you have kids or are concerned about content on your phone being messed with, just don't use the feature. For a lot of people, it is a useful feature to have.
This issue has returned and requires a cache wipe almost every day. Beyond annoyed. I am considering deleting my fingerprints or any security. Pretty stupid feature that makes the phone require a password every single time I want to use it, when this feature could have alleviated that in so many places where I know my phone is safe (home, work, car).
Oneplus 6 - Phone unlocks with smart lock off on Android P
I don't use smart lock option in my phone but after upgrading to Android P, even when the smart lock option is off, my phone screen opens when picked immediately as it is supposed to show the screen is locked. Any suggestions please
I just ordered a Pixel 3a and I was gone for a while from the world of Google phones (since Nexus 4).
I know Magisk hides any trace of root and unlocked bootloader, but is there any disadvantages unique to Pixel devices when rooting, like disabled features or is hiding good enough that there won't be any difference? Just to be sure
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I just ordered a Pixel 3a and I was gone for a while from the world of Google phones (since Nexus 4).
I know Magisk hides any trace of root and unlocked bootloader, but is there any disadvantages when rooting, like disabled features or is hiding good enough that there won't be any difference? Just to be sure
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Nothing as far as i know.
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That sounds great. Wasn't sure if they might have done something through the Titan M or else
Rooting means unlocking your bootloader. This makes your phone at greater risk of being compromised - especially if someone has physical access to your phone (ie you lost it and someone finds it). Therefore you don't want to leave your bootloader unlocked if you have any sort of sensitive, illegal, or secret information on your phone. That's the #1 issue you have to live with. Of course for 99% of the population, there isn't anything really sensitive on their phones.
Google Pay can be hard to get working when rooted. There are ways to make it work, but it's always a cat and mouse game with Google and it may not always work in the future if Google changes something until the developers can catch up. If you can't live without Google Pay, rooting may not be the best choice for you.
There are other apps that can be temperamental when rooted - usually finance apps and some games (because they don't want players cheating). However, the Magisk hide functionality usually works with most of these apps now.
For me, the added functionality that being rooted brings (via modules and apps) is far better than the potential issues.
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Rooting means unlocking your bootloader. This makes your phone at greater risk of being compromised - especially if someone has physical access to your phone (ie you lost it and someone finds it). Therefore you don't want to leave your bootloader unlocked if you have any sort of sensitive, illegal, or secret information on your phone. That's the #1 issue you have to live with. Of course for 99% of the population, there isn't anything really sensitive on their phones.
Google Pay can be hard to get working when rooted. There are ways to make it work, but it's always a cat and mouse game with Google and it may not always work in the future if Google changes something until the developers can catch up. If you can't live without Google Pay, rooting may not be the best choice for you.
There are other apps that can be temperamental when rooted - usually finance apps and some games (because they don't want players cheating). However, the Magisk hide functionality usually works with most of these apps now.
For me, the added functionality that being rooted brings (via modules and apps) is far better than the potential issues.
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Tl;dr: nothing new. And never had a problem with any apps. Magisk Hide is working well enough, deleting apps data always works as last resort. And on custom ROMs just use MagiskHide Props Config. And if you are concerned about your data, just use the lockscreen passport as bootup protection. Then it's simply impossible to get to the data through that "insecurity", no matter what you do. And since fingerprint readers a more complex password isn't a problem.
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Tl;dr: nothing new. And never had a problem with any apps. Magisk Hide is working well enough, deleting apps data always works as last resort. And on custom ROMs just use MagiskHide Props Config. And if you are concerned about your data, just use the lockscreen passport as bootup protection. Then it's simply impossible to get to the data through that "insecurity", no matter what you do. And since fingerprint readers a more complex password isn't a problem.
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by lock screen passport. Can you share some more details?
The insecurity comes from the fact that a person that has physical access to your phone can simply turn the phone off and then start it and hold the power and volume up buttons. This will boot the device into the bootloader. Because the bootloader is unlocked, it allows that person the ability to flash anything and gives that person access to anything they want. That super secure lockscreen password or fingerprint won't help keep them out and does nothing but give users a false sense of security.
When the FBI paid a 1 million dollar bounty to someone to access an iPhone, they were paying someone to get around the bootloader. If you unlock your bootloader, you give this access right from the beginning - for free, and without any effort required.
I'm not trying to be argumentative either. You asked what the drawbacks to rooting were and I was simply trying to give a thorough answer. It's up to the individual user to decide if the the positives of unlocking the bootloader and rooting outweigh the negatives. If you look at my signature, you can see what side of the fence I fall on.
sic0048 said:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by lock screen passport. Can you share some more details?
The insecurity comes from the fact that a person that has physical access to your phone can simply turn the phone off and then start it and hold the power and volume up buttons. This will boot the device into the bootloader. Because the bootloader is unlocked, it allows that person the ability to flash anything they want. That super secure lockscreen password or fingerprint won't help keep them out.
Again, I'm not familiar with this lockscreen passport you mention, so perhaps there is a way to secure the phone that I am not aware of.
I'm not trying to be argumentative either. You asked what the drawbacks to rooting were and I am simply trying to give an thorough answer. It's up to the individual user to decide if the the positives or rooting and unlocking the bootloader outweigh the negatives. If you look at my signature, you can see what side of the fence I fall on.
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Was a typo,I meant lockscreen password. Android should ask you, if you set up a lock method other than Swipe to unlock, if you want to be asked for it on bootup.
So no matter what you are able to flash through an unlocked bootloader, /data and with it anything that could be relevant stays encrypted until you enter the lockscreen pin/pattern/password, no matter if you do this on the screen that will interrupt bootup after a few seconds or in TWRP. So it doesn't matter what you could come up flashing, as long as you don't find a way to extract the encryption key from the secure storage either in Titan M or any ARM processor, there is no way to get your hands on user data. The only thing you can do is simply wipe /data. Then you can start up new, but the users data will be gone.
And no, I never asked for disadvantages of root itself since there are little to none, I just asked for Pixel unique stuff since Google always adds stuff that other OEMs won't use for years to come.
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And no, I never asked for disadvantages of root itself since there are little to none, I just asked for Pixel unique stuff since Google always adds stuff that other OEMs won't use for years to come.
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I misunderstood your initial post then, but the title of the thread says, "Disadvantages of rooting?"
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I misunderstood your initial post then, but the title of the thread says, "Disadvantages of rooting?"
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Fixed that. Hope the text is more clear now.
But could you reproduce what I explained? Because I would be very surprised if that was unique to Motorola and not AOSP