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[Q] Any way to keep brightness down in camera?

Right, I've got a black One S with android 4.0.3 and sense 4, all like new (as it is). I don't fancy rooting it and don't really want to change from the HTC Rom, but the backlight in the camera annoys me. On the touch pro2 with the HTC stuff, I'm certain there was an option in settings to keep the screen backlight down when in the camera. On the Trophy that followed, I couldn't control it, because, let's face it, you can't control much in WP7. however, switching to the one S and android, I expected being able to keep the backlight down.
Why is this frustrating me? I don't like.being blinded by the viewfinder, and I don't want to kill the battery any more than I have to. So, is there a way to keep the phone's backlight down while in the HTC camera app?

Okay, now I know everyone has ignored this thread but I think I've discovered a way. So here's the setup:
HTC One S
System brightness set to lowest
A 4 digit screen-lock password
So I have the passcode set on the 15 minute max timeout, so, the phone locked itself, and I dragged the camera icon on the lockscreen into the ring. Naturally, despite being locked, it still allows use of the camera. Now, it may just be my eyes, but I'm certain I noticed a distance difference in brightness. That is, the screen seemed a lot dimmer when the camera app was being accessed from behind the lock rather than unlocked.

I think the brightness is ok lol
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AMOLED displays as the one in One S doesnt have backlights. But there is a mod that lowers the values when using auto brightness since the defaults are a bit high, not especially made for in-camera though. Check for it in Tweak Machine thread in apps and themes forums.

k1llacanon said:
I think the brightness is ok lol
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I guess most people aren't that fussed about the brightness, but the battery did seem to last a lot longer when recording 1080p video with the lower brightness.
frdd said:
AMOLED displays as the one in One S doesnt have backlights. But there is a mod that lowers the values when using auto brightness since the defaults are a bit high, not especially made for in-camera though. Check for it in Tweak Machine thread in apps and themes forums.
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Does that require root access? From what I can see it does, and I guess that too would be helpful for the majority, but my phone isn't rooted. Mainly because I like the HTC Sense camera interface so much

Yeah you must flash it from custom recovery so at least unlocked boot loader required. Why not try a sense based ROM? They all keep the awesome HTC camera and its snappiness

Unfortunately with the One S update I finally received last night bringing it up from Android 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1, HTC have now removed the incredibly helpful 'bug' of the brightness staying down in the camera if it is launched from the lockscreen with a password set. Thanks a lot HTC, you excell yourselves with stupidity once again.
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Bump. Recording lectures is impossible due to HTC's stupidity. The 100% screen brightness not only kills the battery before lecture ends, but it's extremely distracting for people behind me (especially if room is dark during powerpoint presentations).
This has to be turned down. Ideally, once set up, the phone should be able to record video with the screen OFF. Or at least with brightness on min. Surely there's a mod or a hack for this?

curiousGeorge said:
Bump. Recording lectures is impossible due to HTC's stupidity. The 100% screen brightness not only kills the battery before lecture ends, but it's extremely distracting for people behind me (especially if room is dark during powerpoint presentations).
This has to be turned down. Ideally, once set up, the phone should be able to record video with the screen OFF. Or at least with brightness on min. Surely there's a mod or a hack for this?
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hi,
Firstly, I'm glad that I'm not alone in this. As you said, it is extremely frustrating as not only is the bright screen distracting for others and makes you look foolish, the battery hardly lasts any time at all. I contacted HTC to see if they could add a brightness slider, their customer support rep said the technical team would get in touch with me - they haven't.
However, on the positive side, I have found two apps which don't allow you to record with lower brightness, they up the ante to your other suggestion, having the screen off. I'd always assumed that cameras on phones couldn't work with the screen off because I thought the phone went into proper sleep. Turns out that the camera can stay active. There are many poor apps on Play, but I found two which offer free (very limited functionality, but allows you to check that the app works with your phone) versions and rather expensive pro versions. I tried both the free versions and liked the second one I tried so much that I bought it.
The first one I found was (I don't know why they assume people are using their cameras solely for nefarious purposes - some of us do have legitimate reasons and battery life concerns) 'Hidden Camera Spy Camera', Play link (Lite version link is in their description). This one worked ok, but took a while to configure and doesn't have the nicest interface. So I continued hunting and came across an even better app:
Secret Video Recorder Pro (Lite version listed at the side in the More by this Developer panel): This app is even more elegant. I tried the lite version and found that it worked well, so I then decided to buy the full version (apparently it's currently 50% off, but still pretty expensive - well worth it though). After going through the settings, I set it to use the rear camera and force HD recording. I then tapped the icon on the homescreen, it notified me and then just ran in the notification area. I then turned the screen off, whirled the phone around my room, turned the phone back on and tapped on the notification to stop it. I then checked the video and to my amazement, it had worked! (on an unrooted, still carrier locked, black One S running the latest official updated OS (Android 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1))
When I dragged the app into the fixed Sense homescreen dock, originally it displayed nothing, even after rebooting the phone. However, after Sense crashed and showed me a message saying Sense had crashed, it even worked from the lockscreen. If you have the 'Show icon' enabled in the SVR Preferences, you can then tell from the lockscreen that it is actually recording as you can see the icon in the notification bar.
I'm sorry for rambling on and on, but I think SVR just got into my top 5 apps of all time list as it is unbelievably flawless (apart from the price )

biggles1000 said:
hi,
Firstly, I'm glad that I'm not alone in this. As you said, it is extremely frustrating as not only is the bright screen distracting for others and makes you look foolish, the battery hardly lasts any time at all. I contacted HTC to see if they could add a brightness slider, their customer support rep said the technical team would get in touch with me - they haven't.
However, on the positive side, I have found two apps which don't allow you to record with lower brightness, they up the ante to your other suggestion, having the screen off. I'd always assumed that cameras on phones couldn't work with the screen off because I thought the phone went into proper sleep. Turns out that the camera can stay active. There are many poor apps on Play, but I found two which offer free (very limited functionality, but allows you to check that the app works with your phone) versions and rather expensive pro versions. I tried both the free versions and liked the second one I tried so much that I bought it.
The first one I found was (I don't know why they assume people are using their cameras solely for nefarious purposes - some of us do have legitimate reasons and battery life concerns) 'Hidden Camera Spy Camera', Play link (Lite version link is in their description). This one worked ok, but took a while to configure and doesn't have the nicest interface. So I continued hunting and came across an even better app:
Secret Video Recorder Pro (Lite version listed at the side in the More by this Developer panel): This app is even more elegant. I tried the lite version and found that it worked well, so I then decided to buy the full version (apparently it's currently 50% off, but still pretty expensive - well worth it though). After going through the settings, I set it to use the rear camera and force HD recording. I then tapped the icon on the homescreen, it notified me and then just ran in the notification area. I then turned the screen off, whirled the phone around my room, turned the phone back on and tapped on the notification to stop it. I then checked the video and to my amazement, it had worked! (on an unrooted, still carrier locked, black One S running the latest official updated OS (Android 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1))
When I dragged the app into the fixed Sense homescreen dock, originally it displayed nothing, even after rebooting the phone. However, after Sense crashed and showed me a message saying Sense had crashed, it even worked from the lockscreen. If you have the 'Show icon' enabled in the SVR Preferences, you can then tell from the lockscreen that it is actually recording as you can see the icon in the notification bar.
I'm sorry for rambling on and on, but I think SVR just got into my top 5 apps of all time list as it is unbelievably flawless (apart from the price )
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Doesn't using SVR defeat your original purpose? It's not using the Sense camera, it's using it's own implementation? At that rate, any aftermarket camera should work and allow you to use default screen brightness.

el_smurfo said:
Doesn't using SVR defeat your original purpose? It's not using the Sense camera, it's using it's own implementation? At that rate, any aftermarket camera should work and allow you to use default screen brightness.
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Unfortunately, yes, it does. SVR is sort of a compromise for me at the moment as I can save battery life but I do miss out on all the Sense camera features. It would be great if HTC do actually listen to my request and implement it, given how simple a request it is, but they appear to be constantly so far ahead with all their development process that I doubt they'd include it in the the Android 4.1 release scheduled for this month
SVR is on one end of the scale of what I'd like to do with the camera (save the battery) and the Sense camera is on the other end (use the camera). Where I'd like HTC to place us is in the middle of those two, with the ability to use the Sense camera but in a power-efficient manner (such as being able to record a video but take stills at the same time, with the battery outlasting the meager storage space).

Software (ease of use, features, etc)

When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the OnePlus 6T's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

On my offical 48+ hours with the OP6T. Having issues setting up face unlock the phone is keeping me in the loop of entering pin/pattern and not opening the face unlock settings, maybe update or software glitch patch. just reset the phone after a full 39+ hour discharge and recharge of the battery, any help with the issue would be great.

I will give it points for the pro mode but outside of that, I find it could use a few more features. If the V40 camera app comes to the V30, I'm going back to it.

Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen

g_oral said:
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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True. I'm not a Huawei fan but I like their knuckle gestures a lot. Swiping with the knuckle from left to right or view versa enters split screen mode for example.

g_oral said:
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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You can set up the split screen shortcut under the navigation 'buttons' ie home button
I set my split screen shortcut as a home button long press

One plus 6T is good rather than other phones in its software and configuration.

Normally my Camera opens "instantly".
I encounter from time to time that my camera takes more than a second to start. It's a really fast phone, so what's the probleme here?

I got used to reliability on my OnePlus 5T. 6T is, well, lackluster. I need to reboot it at least once per day. hyperion takes ages to open and the screen is frozen in the meantime. Bluetooth... I am using 5-6 bt devices, and only 4 are on the list when you change volume. Weirdly, it's the disconnected ones, not the ones I am actually using. Sometimes the sound will just ignore BT and go through the phone speaker no matter what it's set to do - another reboot needed. Last weekend Sygic (satnav) crashed so badly the phone went black. No reaction. After holding all the buttons for 10 sec it rebooted to safe mode. Another reboot to normal, and all my settings, launcher, were gone.
Honestly, I want to love it. I do. But I actually hate it. Too bad I already gave my op5t to my daughter. It was soo much better.

Wow, today it just lost audio on voice calls. Why? Because previously I've been casting to a TV. So when the call came the stupid thing didn't know where to reroute audio. So after a while it decided f**k this, it's probably nothing important anyway.
only fixed by reboot. God I hate this phone!
I'm on stable 10 by the way.

I'm really happy with my OP 6T, just wished the camera was better.
I mean come on the secondary camera is only used for depth effect, so is only active in portrait mode...
The only other issue I have is the ambient display doesn't activate as it should imo, only a "hard pick up" will get it to switch on.

Things i'd like to see fixed in the next update (L29)

Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.

The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.

ajsmsg78 said:
The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.
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Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.

omniphil said:
Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.
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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.

ajsmsg78 said:
Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....

ajsmsg78 said:
Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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omniphil said:
Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....
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Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
??

antiochasylum said:
Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
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Fluid Gestures is indeed better than OnePlus Gestures...
1. A Car supercharger wont work with Android Auto, I can't imagine this is intentional as with any generic wall charger and cable I get about 2 amp charge rates.

Thanks a bunch for the Fluid Gestures. I always swiped to the home screen.

antiochasylum said:
Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!

Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures

antiochasylum said:
Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures
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Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.

omniphil said:
I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!
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While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.

ajsmsg78 said:
While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.
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I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?

omniphil said:
I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?
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It disables the apps. Just remove the launcher and the small Huawei things like email or whatever you don't use. You can leave everything else to be safe.

I'd like to see some camera updates.
The portrait mode for both the front and rear cameras are subpar. They don't perform as well as the GCam found on the 6T, let alone the actual GCam on Pixel phones.
I'm also experiencing Bluetooth issues with my headphones. They'll connect but audio will be significantly chopped up and delayed. I have to disconnect them and reconnect sometimes, and last time I had to unpair them.
Also would like to see better use of screen real estate. It looks bad having 5 quick setting tiles per row on such a big phone. 6 or even 7 would look great.

omniphil said:
Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.
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How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?

Guitarfreak26 said:
How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?
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They are off by default, It's under System Navigation.
Just leave Three-key navigation on and the system won't do gestures, then in fluid you do the ADB permissions to enable it to hide the Huawei bar.

UPDATE
So after using the phone for a while now, I'd like to update my original list of things that need addressing....
1. The constant crashing with the camera appears to have been fixed with a factory reset, so that is now fixed!
2. With Fluid Gestures it seems we have a decent work around for gesture controls with 3rd party launchers.
3. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have things once in a while that don't notify me on time with messages. When I open the app then the notifications come right in, this tells me the app is getting killed in the background. (Happens most frequently with the messaging app "Line")
4. I'd still really like some sort of notification icon on the screen with the always on screen, but I guess that's not a huge deal.
5. Really the only major thing is the USB charging at super slow speeds from my laptop or in the car. 200ma is just way too slow and is not like any other phone charging from the same sources.

omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
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Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.

n1tro said:
Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.
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I didn't change anything in developer settings, I just move the 2 sliders in the display setting all the way to the smallest size.
But Factory Reset did fixed the camera crashing.....

Honor View 20 Reviews - All the reviews - Found a good one add it here

This thread is a single place for all the reviews on the Honor View 20. I will add more to this first post as I find new reviews. At the moment, there are unboxings and first looks.
Review after 1 month + camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
and the 10 part review covering all aspects in detail, which includes 4 videos as well
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/
Gavin's Gadgets - Camera Review - All modes tested of the 48mp AI Camera , very detailed
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA
Audio Review https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/2...-loudspeaker-and-3-5mm-headphones-all-tested/
Gavin's Gadgets Hands On https://youtu.be/5dsHWQ45-o8
XDA https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-view-20-hands-on-first-impressions-review/
Android Central https://www.androidcentral.com/honor-view-20-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/1/22/18192579/honor-view-20-48-megapixel-camera-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/10/18176129/honor-view-20-huawei-hole-punch-display-ces-2019

Camera review with samples of all the modes is live now.
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA

I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?

pro4ever said:
I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?
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Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.

gavinfabl said:
Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.
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Tnx Gavin. Bummer will give this one a miss love dark mode.

Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.

Waarez said:
Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.
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Then buy an iPhone, its twice the price. There has to be some sacrifices at a lower price point, and haptics would never feature highly for me as a must have strong haptics, more so as I turn them off. If you look at all the other stuff squeezed into the View 20, you do get a lot of phone. However, for me, its the accumulation of everything, that then provides an overall experience, which I am loving. I do get that not every phone is right for every person

After one month of usage, this is my review, with all the pros and points to note, along with a camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
My written review, 10 parts, includes the 4 videos as well plus dedicated reviews on the audio and camera in much more detail https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/

Mobilejack (german review): https://youtu.be/bp5jwMGhLvI
Mobilejack (german first Impression): https://youtu.be/3f86AiaeB2I

harrys56431 said:
I am thinking to buy Honor's view 20, so that's why I am looking for the reviews about this smartphone. You guys have shared all the reviews about this mobile and I think it has the best camera, user experience as compared with any other smartphone. Now I will must buy this phone and also share my review with you guys here.
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What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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I can see Android fans being put off by the locked bootloader and limitations of Magic UI, but the lack of screen lock timeout control is not an issue for me because I bypass magazine unlock and use the fingerprint sensor to open on the app that I was last using when the screen timed out to lock the device. Face unlock works in the same way. You can change the sleep settings in display to increase the duration before the screen shuts off. The default is 15 seconds which is a little too aggressive.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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The number 2 is really what bothered me initially - having a lot of financial apps that need it. All I do in most cases is not to forget to press the power button immediately after making use of any of the apps to lock the screen.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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Speak for yourself as there are tens of millions of people who are very happy with Emui.
Emui 9.1 is near perfect now. Your first point is incorrect. You can change this when you select a new theme. I've never worried about the second point. I want rock tight security. And the third point does need changing.
Otherwise there's actually a lot emui offers over others. If you don't like it, just install Nova Launcher. Hides most things.
My only wish apart from your third point is having the option to scale the icon size within the themes.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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You can easily get rid of the magazine unlock.

Android 10 [Q] Features Report/Feedback

So I know there are other android 10 threads out there but I felt like y'all should get a list of whats new in front of your eyes instead of looking around:
**Improved night camera quality - Yes I have felt and improvement it is slight however, but it did get somewhat better.
**Google's new navigation gestures (I felt like I should write this because last updates, Sony phones did not get the nav gestures) however the new gestures seem just a tiny bit laggy -rarely though- and when in landscape mode, the slide down bar drops not in a symmetric way but rather drops right sided which makes things look out of place
**New CinemaPro app features - the app now has the levels of both phone microphones like on the v50 and also has aspect ratio check lines (if you want to shoot a video on cinema pro it only shoots 21/9 but you can have check lines to see whats being viewed in any other aspect ratio you choose and you also have a meter inside the camera to show you if youre in the frame or not)
**Dark mode - works on most apps, but I can't seem to activate it on my phone app, any suggestions?
**UI click sounds changed - yup! I love the new ones they sound more like Android rather than Sony and I do love Android!
**FINGERPRINT!!!! - Yes!! finally fingerprint scanner is way more responsive now!! before it was sooo strict about the cleanness and the angle, I registered 3 fingers and it only could recognize one of them because of the angle it provides, but now every finger on any angle with less cleanness is verry responsive! (could still be worked on, but im so happy with it at this moment)
**Sadly no more face unlock, even though I never used it but it worked surprisingly fast when I had the option available, but now it doesnt exist, good thing they improved the fingerprint scanner XD
**Slightly improved battery life - I only noticed it when I tested it, but if youre not a detailed tester you wont be able to recognize throughout the day, maybe if youre a slight user, yes you will notice the phone lasting 2/3 hours longer (overall usage and not screen on time) because I can tell they worked greatly on improving the idle drain.
**Speaker loudness - I think the phone got louder? I am not sure but defiantly notice something that didnt exist, not necessarily higher quality but I do notice something increasing in volume I cant tell if its volume or distortion lol but when I go to max volume there is something that makes you think, a little lower than max sounded like max on previous android but I cant tell if max here is actually louder or just more noisy especially with dolby atmos
**Some people reported signal drops? or bad signal? I havent noticed a difference here so thats good news
**Performance - the phone was fast enough to almost be the king of speed and smoothness so yah even if its better on android 10 I cant even feel the difference but it is VERY smooth even on a new android which means its pretty sick!
**Recent apps button (in old school 3 button nav bar) doesnt seem to do anything if you have custom launcher, but works on default sony launcher.
UPDATE!!
**one handed mode, which I use alot when im in bed, cant seem to be activated in the new navigation gestures, because you have to double tap home button but u dont have it in new gestures, so heres what i did:
Enabled side sense, i know it doesn't work properly, but now you have an option of controlling how to access it, You can actually enable the inside the screen tap rather than from the side (if you have a case on, this will really help you) , adjust sensitivity, position, transparency of the slide activators, and change the gestures of how it works, now i changed the double tap side sense from opening the side sense menu, to activate one handed mode, and now side sense works smoothly with gestures and i can activate one handed mode in new android nav gestures, youre welcome

Thx u for this thread

UI seems a lot smoother. I'm liking the android 10 gestures which adds to the "smoothness".
Can't really say about photo quality, haven't been using the camera much. I can definitely notice a better battery life compared to before.
Basically no issues just yet! Aside from me getting used to the new gestures (+ side sense)

Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it

Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?

Sugarcube8th said:
Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Yah you just reminded me to add that bug, also if you on landscape mode the slide down bar is off place slides from the right rather than the middle of the screen

Pandemic said:
Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?
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I will try to do so soon, when I have free time from work

Agree with you.
- about the signal, i notice less signals bar (1-2 signal bars most of the time), but no connection drop (yet)
- wifi Mac address new option, set by default at "random Mac address"

Here's a preview of the swipe up animation bug?
https://youtu.be/ZM0Exs9F4yQ

Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?

Arsyian said:
Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?
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Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.

t238z said:
Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.
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That's strange cause I never had the problem till updating to Android 10.

I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update

blegs said:
I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update
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this happens with me with BG player.. I simply turned off its notifications

Sugarcube8th said:
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Precisely, IDK if that happens with pixel or one plus devices, but I know that it happens with Xperia 1. When you go back to the app, let's just say it's inside a folder, app shows in the dock then the folder pops back. Then if you open an app let's just say dialer then you switch to camera with recent menu and you go back to home screen it shows dialer app on where the camera icon then you get the camera icon back in the dock. Am I right?

[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.

Remember people more updates will vome of android 10, this is the 1st release so except some tiny bugs. Sony/google will fix that

just added some more updates about bugs and updates in main post check it out

kevinkoo said:
[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.
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whats that launcher?

Just got mine an hour ago. Hoping that I don't experience those bugs.