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While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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Nexus as everyone knows has a huge fan following. This particular device hasn't much fan following. The stock firmware is already out. Unattractive I won't say.
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The more owners any given model has, the more likely it is that there are programmers among them capable of android development. Then there's the question of how much of the drivers/firmware is available as open source or compatible third-party stuff. Finally, there's the question of how much the phone actually benefits from custom anything.
Currently, i am on a stock ROM stock kernel with xposed and gravitybox and i currently have no open wishes ... except maybe the LED notification light, that would only work with a custom kernel.
X play is great, even with stock
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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For systemwide themes, layers is there and everything is settled.
Even the sound performance on earphones is so good, no need of any sound mods. ?
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I'm waiting on my phone too, but the community will hopefully pick up as more dev teams get their hands on the device and whatnot. Things should gain traction after the overall international release of Marshmallow on this device is done, I'd say. Fingers crossed.
That's true. I was using xiaomi mi3 . great hardware for its price. But hated to use KitKat forever. It has got great developers .
But once I lost the mobile I got mxp. Honestly it's got very less support at the moment. I expected lot of activity.
I used to have so many notifications in xda when I was using mi3
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Having recently ordered this phone to replace my N5, this is reassuring to hear.
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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I do agree with you on the superior performance of the N5 compared to the MXP. But let's focus on the important things, do we want to charge our smartphone everytime at the end of the day?
This is one of the reasons I moved from my beloved N5 to this new phone. Regularly, I use my smartphone for IM, browsing and e-mail. Do I need to have the best performance ? Certainly not.
More important is to have a phone that brings a battery endurance that lasts up to 2 days. The N5 in my 2 years of usage was like driving a ferrari. Unprecedented performance but an appalling operating range (battery life), charging the phone twice a day was nothing special.
As for the dev activity. The nexus community is unmatched when it comes to this. It can certainly be better but we have xposed framework + gravity box and also an unoffical cm13 build that looks promising to reach official status soon.
Cheers,
Ynternet
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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No Nexus phone offers Bluetooth aptX or µSD card support, the bright screen of the MXP is excellent in itself, the front facing speaker is loud etc.
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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Patience friend, Marshmallow is coming.
Joining the family soon.. To be precise Tomorrow.
I wouldn't compare Motorola's phones to Nexus line at all. Dev's love Nexuses, they always did. Sure, Moto's look kinda similar, being so close to stock and all, but it's not actually stock android right? You can kinda see the dev scene picking up slowly and I think it's only going to get better once MM is available worldwide.
On a side note, it's nice to see I wasn't the only one coming from Nexus 5 to MXP. Turns out there are plenty of people willing to trade off some pure benchmark performance for actual quality-of-life improvements, like battery and screen.
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My previous phone was a nexus 5 also, roll on MM.
I really like the look and feel and hardware of the Honor 8. I hate the software though. Is it worth it to unlock the boot loader root it and then flash CM14.1 on it? Is CM stable enough for everyday use? Having stock Android on the Honor 8 would be awesome if it worked good.
Can i ask you what you dislike about emui? I thought that i would had hard time with it, but since i bought H8, i've never had the feeling to switch back to AOSP because everything it's quite good and even the look and feel is not so far to the AOSP ui (particularly with N)...
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Can i ask you what you dislike about emui? I thought that i would had hard time with it, but since i bought H8, i've never had the feeling to switch back to AOSP because everything it's quite good and even the look and feel is not so far to the AOSP ui (particularly with N)...
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Same here. Really like 5.0 Emui nougat.
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I've used AOSP based ROMs since the HTC Evo. Once you change the launcher and use your favorite 3rd party apps, there's very little about EMUI to actually dislike.
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I really like the look and feel and hardware of the Honor 8. I hate the software though. Is it worth it to unlock the boot loader root it and then flash CM14.1 on it? Is CM stable enough for everyday use? Having stock Android on the Honor 8 would be awesome if it worked good.
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The software is just OK IMHO since N update. The lineage 14.1 ROM is still in testing and not ready for daily driver yet. I will flash it as soon as everything is working including FPS but until then I will stick with stock EMUI Nougat. The worst thing about this phone is the battery. Literally the worst battery life of any phone I've ever had.
Does anyone know as far as camera's go, which one is considered better, the Nexus 5X or the Honor 8?
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Does anyone know as far as camera's go, which one is considered better, the Nexus 5X or the Honor 8?
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The Honor 8 camera is better than Nexus 5X camera.
Hey Guys , so after selling my Xiaomi Redmi 2 a week back I was looking for a new phone with great community support. I am getting the used Nexus 5 (32GB) for around 80$ in my country India. So my question is the device still worth it ?
How is the battery life , camera (both front and back) and gaming performance with nougat roms ? Can I get the camera samples ?
Thanks in advanced.
I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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Thanx for your reply mate.
i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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I'm a long time user but getting really annoyed with the worsening battery life. Where can I find out more about unofficial hammerhead caf roms and how to install them. Does it allow using Xposed?
Switched on My N5 after a long time. It still runs smoother & faster than some of my 2016 mid-range devices. I'm loving the performance:victory:. For me the only con is it's camera(Lol I didn't bought N5 for camera) & battery backup (managing somehow):silly: The device is good but you can get better devices than this at this time!!:highfive:
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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Agreed, changing to a battery conservative ROM will help, as will a custom kernel. Unfortunately I made too many performance enhancements with Ex Kernel, like over clocking the CPU from 2.2 to 2.3, which negated any battery saving settings. Now I just Fast Charge it and let Ex Kernel do its thing in Battery Saver mode when it gets low.
I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Ok, here we go. The Nexus 5 Android Development section of the forums is the best source of information for that. Here you will find popular original ROMs like PureNexus, Resurrection Remix, Nitrogen OS, and more. As to which one to use, that is kind of a personal preference. Each ROM offers a unique experience.
Additionally, more ROMs can be found in the Nexus 5 Original Android Development section of the forums. Here you will find ROMs based on other ROMs, primarily stock-like ROMs like LineageOS (previously Cyanogenmod), as well as custom recoveries and kernels.
You can also stick with stock, 6.0.1 is available directly from Google - it is a nice upgrade over your 5.1.1 stock setup.
If you are unfamiliar with flashing ROMs, might I suggest starting with this guide on how to unlock your bootloader (which you probably have already done since you have root), how to install a custom recovery like TWRP. Once this is done, you are open to the world of customization.
Please let me know if I can be of any more help.
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Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
maybeme2 said:
Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
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Visit each ROMs thread. Watch YouTube reviews. Or just flash some for yourself and try different ones out. I loved cyanogenmod nut haven't tried out LineageOS yet. I'm on PureNexus on this N5 I am currently using because a lot of people on XDA recommended it.
What kind of thing now are you looking for in a ROM?
Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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As xposed is not currently available to Nougat, you'll probably be best sticking with a Marshmallow based ROM, maybe even stock.
I can tell you that a ROM like Pure Nexus has a lot of features built into the ROM similar to what many modules from xposed offer - for me, it is a no brainer to have the text in place of a battery icon in the status bar. Also, Nougat has a restart built-in to the ROM, so that solves the other problem I had with stock Android. Just give it a whirl!
https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-drops-support-devices-inactive-maintainers/
TL;DR:
LineageOS drops official support due to inactive maintainers for Moto X Style/Pure alongside other Motorolas (such as Moto Z2 and G4) and other devices as well (most prominently Galaxy Note 3 and 8, HTC 10, Oneplus X, LG G3, Nexus 7 2013, several LG GPads and the recently released Xiaomi Redmi Note 5).
What do you think about this situation? Is support for our Moto X Style officialy dead?
~Aluminium X
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
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I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
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That's very interesting. I wonder how it is living with a phone with Copperhead OS and/or F-droid apps only.
Some people say that avoiding Google services and using F-droid instead in a standard ROM like Lineage gives you an extra hour of screen on time and improved idle power consumption, but information online is scarce about that particular subject. Most people use F-droid just to avoid Google for privacy reasons.
Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
Legendary phone stands on its own
Thankfully, the stock Rom on this phone is good enough that there's really no need for these. Still, it's better to have more choices than to have fewer choices, so it will be a bit of a hypothetical bummer to one of the greatest smartphones ever.
Long live the Pure Edition!
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Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Just go to the Post below for more info. Ifixit is involved with it so I would imagine it is legit. They can sell just the battery or the entire kit.
I personally got mine off ebay and got lucky. 7+ months and still going strong.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...al-oem-battery-replacement-kit-t3857897/page3
So where to download Lineage OS for Moto X Sytle now?
So sad because I wanted to install a custom rom in my moto x pure . Im new to rooting so is there any way to download the rom regardless not having support anymore?
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
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lmao, it never was... Very bad cpu with throttling issues, weak battery, no official batteries for replacement, poor official and unoficial support, poor build quality and no fingerprint scaner lol
Hello,
I'm still using my Oneplus One with the original Cyanogen Mod.
I can definitely noticed the age of my phone nowadays. As I recently discovered that there are stable builds of Lineage OS available for the OPO I started wondering if an updated software would give my phone a bit of a revival. In general it is still in a good condition so I don't really want to just replace it.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions, if it is worth to update the software or if I rather should start searching for a replacement.
What is there to lose if you first try out the newest LineageOS, which is based on Android 11?
If you do not need things like a better camera or use your phone for gaming, the OPO is still as good as ever. I think my phone is smoother to use than it was 7 years ago because of the LineageOS team's work. Tomoms even has a performance optimized build for the OPO, which I can recommend strongly. Beware that the optimized build is more experimental than the official LineageOS.
Hi, I upgraded my oneplus one a couple of months to lineage OS 17.1 - works well and after adding Gapps is almost like a new phone. it is slightly slower but it gave a new life. little apprehensive for getting lineage Os 18.1, as it says it will be even slower due to software encryption