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Let me list what we know so far about updates and future plans of HMD Global for its Nokia 6:
1. Android O: Recently after a launch event in Indonesia, some YouTuber from Indonesia interviewed the executive "Mark Trundie" mentioned all of the existing Nokia Android phones (3,5,6 & 8) will get Android O before the End of 2017, to be specific in his words "before Christmas"
Reference: Android Authority and Indonesian YouTuber Channel
http://www.androidauthority.com/nokia-3-5-6-oreo-update
2. Bootloader Unlock: in a recent twitter conversation between NokiaPowerUser and Mikko Jaakkola, CTO of HMD , Mikko mentioned that HMD Global is willing to unlock bootloader if its devices, one at a time, and as Nokia 6 is the only cell which is currently available officially in USA it seems it will be the first followed by others.
Reference: NokiaPowerUser
https://nokiapoweruser.com/hmd-will...android-phones-one-device-time-nokia-android/
3. Android P: At a launch event in Philippines, the executive of HMD in a press Q&A event clearly stated that all of Nokia Android phones, even the Nokia 3 will get Android P next year as HMD Global aims to provide customers a device long lasting, Up-to-date and Secure providing 2 years of OS and Security patches Updates always in time.
Reference: https://www.androidcentral.com/hmd-promises-android-p-update-all-current-nokia-android-phones
And at 41:06 in this video: https://www.facebook.com/NokiaRevolution/videos/1418442958210370/
I will keep trying to keep you up-to-date with future news
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Thanks for collating all the info.
Haven't been too enamoured with how Nokia has begin their Android project so far. They're too vague with info unless pushed and haven't been as quick with the actual main updates as per their promise ie. No Oreo or 7.1.2 updates. They also haven't released any pc recovery tools for general customers or unlocked the bootloader for more technical minded ones.
Maybe their Dev teams are are still finding their feet and they'll be up to speed by next year.
jimmygumble said:
Thanks for collating all the info.
Haven't been too enamoured with how Nokia has begin their Android project so far. They're too vague with info unless pushed and haven't been as quick with the actual main updates as per their promise ie. No Oreo or 7.1.2 updates. They also haven't released any pc recovery tools for general customers or unlocked the bootloader for more technical minded ones.
Maybe their Dev teams are are still finding their feet and they'll be up to speed by next year.
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You are Welcome bro.
As for PC tool, i may have some news which is not confirmed yet so will not disclose right now, but we are pretty sure that Nokia will come up with a tool whenever it plans to start unlocking the bootloaders of its devices, because we all know why we need unlocked bootloader and that also needs a proper PC tool to go stock again. Which is also a consideration to Nokia.
For updates, as per me, i will be ok if we jump straight to Oreo instead of 7.1.2.
Its actually the os update which we care the most, right? As per their constant promise, if we consider they will release Oreo before Christmas then we have to see what happens in next 80 days.
Nokia 6 has been seen on GFXBench with Android 7.1.2, which means testing is underway.
It is reported that Android 7.1.2 Nougat enhances notification stability, improves fingerprint swipe performance, and gives alert on battery usage alerts among other features.
Source: NokiaPowerUser
Good to know they're testing 7.1.2 . The 7.1.2 uodate was a decent update when lineage incorporated it if I'm remembering that right. Performance did improve with it on the old phone I had. Not that this phone is slow. Despite all the criticism from spec readers about the processor I'm really happy with how smooth it runs. The 6 is an excellent phone
Nobody's mentioned the touch latency with any of these Nokia's. The Nokia 6 touchscreen has a pretty good touch latency response. It's one of the better Android phones I've used. Not like the Nokia 5 though. It's touch response was noticeably bad. Just thought I'd mention that for no reason! No reviews said anything this.
Aside, hopefully the Dev side of the phone speeds up soon.
Any word on official Oreo?
apotekar said:
Any word on official Oreo?
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Oreo Beta is here so I guess the official release is coming soon™.
Post#1 updated with latest news.
News update Dec,22 2017.
Oreo beta is now available (in Pakistan) to all users who have updated the December patch whether manually or officially.
crystal_ball said:
Oreo Beta is here so I guess the official release is coming soon™.
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Try the oreo right now
Goto this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-6/how-to/guide-oreo-follow-steps-t3723776
Press thanks if u find this useful
sltushar said:
Try the oreo right now
Goto this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-6/how-to/guide-oreo-follow-steps-t3723776
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I know there's a beta; in fact I'm on it already. Apotekar asked about the official version and as far as I know the exact date hasn't been confirmed it, but I'm sure it's coming soon.
Thats right, i was asking about official Oreo. I dont have the nerves to deal with betas I know its probably coming soon, i was just wondering if anyone knew something new. Thanks to everyone who replied.
Today Android Oreo roll out.( Official built)
for what models
as I read, it is for TA 1000 and 1003 version
rajived said:
Today Android Oreo roll out.( Official built)
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When will be pie rolling out to Nokia 6 ??
kheemu05 said:
When will be pie rolling out to Nokia 6 ??
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No idea
Toying within the idea of getting a Mate 9 at its current low price. Do we have any definite statements on the whether it will be get P? Even 400eur is too much if it will not be updated one more time... In that case, honor 10 looks like a better option, really.
They are only working on rolling out Oreo right now, I haven't seen anything about P yet. However since the device will support Project Treble, Its hopeful we might see AOSP ROM's over the next little while and that could mean Android P later on down the road, depends on our devs
Thanks, guess we don't know How is the security patch situation? I read fairly conflicting statements, anywhere from basically never to quarterly to Huawei will aim for monthly now?
nupi said:
Thanks, guess we don't know How is the security patch situation? I read fairly conflicting statements, anywhere from basically never to quarterly to Huawei will aim for monthly now?
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It seems different between models. C432 has gotten nearly monthly lately.
But just because they release firmware monthly doesn't mean you'll get it monthly. It usually takes a while to get your IMEI approved for a firmware when it releases.
That sounds rather annoying, somewhat unsure if I want to subject myself to such nonsense... A while is days or more like weeks in the this context?
Android P
nupi said:
Toying within the idea of getting a Mate 9 at its current low price. Do we have any definite statements on the whether it will be get P? Even 400eur is too much if it will not be updated one more time... In that case, honor 10 looks like a better option, really.
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There is no way to know for sure, depends on Huawei. But with Google having project treble it will make it even easier to upgrade their devices, and with Huawei going to upgrade even their three year old devices to Oreo I would think it's a fairly safe bet that the mate 9 will be upgraded to P weekend it comes out. With Huawei already working with Google on P I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Do we have any indication if stock like camera performance will be achievable on treble based aosp?
Do we have any indication if stock like camera performance will be achievable on treble based aosp?
I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
isnt the whole purpose of treble to make the updates easily available, the rest is up to manufacturers
Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
cheetah2k said:
Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
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So oneplus will stay in beta months after the official release? This is ridiculous.. it's supposed to get it as soon as it becomes official
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So oneplus will stay in beta months after the official release? This is ridiculous.. it's supposed to get it as soon as it becomes official
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No, it's supposed to get it much quicker then other OEMs if a phone is part of Project Treble. The Google Pixel phones will ALWAYS be the first to get it as it's made for the Pixel line... the OEMs like OnePlus will get it sonner then most and it's just much easier to get it to the phones. So expect it roughly a month or so maybe 2 after it's released on the Pixel line.
Become a developer and write yourself a working Android P if you don't want to wait
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Become a developer and write yourself a working Android P if you don't want to wait
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The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
cheetah2k said:
Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
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What?? Why would it not be official until the pixel 3 launch???
Android P will probably be released in August like Android Oreo, and it will probably be official in August/September
Lol. People will never be happy... Whaaaa? No official P at the same time with Pixel 3? Feel blessed that you have Project Treble. Before Treble, OEMs was getting source code only after the final version was released. That was the point when OEMs could start working on their betas. Or to put it on other words: first betas late November (in the best scenario) and final release February, March. Now we have betas in May-June and people are still crying lol.
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The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
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Then buy a damn pixel! Just smdh
Eric214 said:
Then buy a damn pixel! Just smdh
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Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
ramqashou said:
Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
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You asking question about when the beta will be released won't make the update come fast. You'll know when the update will be released. Till then keep researching.
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Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
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I understand perfectly... Google will never allow another device to have the newest Android version before the pixel line and once it's out on the pixels, they will release it to the other pens when they choose, which likely will be a bit after it's on the pixels for a bit. It's just the way it is, treble or not.
what's the rush anyway?? it's a freaking phone not your life support system... smh
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100% agree with this! If you want the latest and greatest first, then Pixel phones are the best options. For me, the latest security updates are the most important thing - any phone manufacturer that doesn't release these on time is dead to me (Huawei is the worst).. I think what OnePlus is doing is better than the average, so if you don't like it, move along..
I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
Have you checked your crystal ball?
ramqashou said:
The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
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You do realize that OxygenOS is not stock android. So how would they release it instantly when they need to customize it before release.
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chakra said:
You do realize that OxygenOS is not stock android. So how would they release it instantly when they need to customize it before release.
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It's available as a beta.. they're already in the process of customizing it... And that's a first for android and google.. and that's why in my opinion it should be available for the beta supported devices much faster than previous iterations, I Mean..... What's the point of the beta then ?
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I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
Have you checked your crystal ball?
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I suggest you learn how to quote first
Yes I read reviews.
I owned a Oneplus One years ago and I gave up waiting for an upgrade and bought something else.
I here that OnePlus is better at upgrading today than they were four years ago. Is this true ?
Like I said I read and I know OnePlus 6 has available an Oxygen Beta (Android Pie) but it has not been officially released ? Is true if I buy a device I may need to wait several months until they Officially release Android Pie.
Now I know you will say just run the Beta it is stable but here is the make of break question I need Android Pay and Wear OS. My experience tells me if I flash a Beta required apps like Android Pay and Wear OS may stop working.
If I buy today I think the safe thing will be to wait for Oxygen OS (Android Pie) to be released. Customer ROMs or Beta OS will break for sure Android Pay.
Other than hating to wait for official releases this device looks fine.
No wireless charging sucks but I can live without it.
The Pixel camera maybe better but I read the OnePlus 6 camera is not bad
The OnePlus 6T will be out in November but ..... THERE IS ALWAYS A NEW DEVICE around the corner. Wait for the OnePlus 6T..... oh but it a few months this will be released.
This device gives better value for the dollar.
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
Official Pie has been released, you can already download the firmware and flash it.
As for updates and kernel source upload speed, the OP6 gets both the fastest among all devices I had.
As for taking pics, use the gcam port for great picture quality and the oos cam for [email protected] recording.
The Official build for Android pie has been released today which is nice as it took only about 1.5 months after Google released it themselves.
Thanks I jumped on a sale, and ordered one.
I am not even sure at this point I care about the Pixel, it may have a better camera but I am sure ordering the One Plus 6 I saved hundreds of dollars.
The OP 6T is set to be released in the next couple months. Unless you're in need of a headphone jack, I'd wait to get the latest version.
floridaman said:
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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To each their own indeed. And it's not a ridiculous mantra.just as countless many others, I do prefer to be able to switch over countless amounts of phone but still have the same familiar, debloated and resource friendly UI. Having to learning all the different "UX"s gets pretty dull, as soon as ie Samsung gets settled with one, they change design language. And that, for me, is a deal breaker, I don't feel like having to relearn the same basics over and over, and where I usually have to install another AOSP based ROM on ie my Xperia, HTC or Samsung. Whilst the OnePlus just has the familiarity and non-rubbish feel to it that AOSP has. But don't get me wrong, as you said, to each their own, and if it wasn't for people like you that don't want the stock feel, we wouldn't have custom kernels and/or ROMs. And I've ran all the betas except ob3 and currently run the stable... And I've yet to run into any app not loading, crashing, or features not working as intended. But I would recommend not jumping on the bandwagon as I regret doing so, until there are some more data and user reviews of the stable branch. And I'm not trusting anyone doing a forum post not being previously recognized or a proper reviewer. The stable build is solid, but it's still early to tell.
Oneplus 8 and Oneplus 8 Pro gets new beta software... What with 8T? Why no beta realese yet?
montek92 said:
Oneplus 8 and Oneplus 8 Pro gets new beta software... What with 8T? Why no beta realese yet?
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Why would we get beta builds when we already have Android 11?
There is no beta yet.
Probably one in the pipeline...
Sheradrax said:
Why would we get beta builds when we already have Android 11?
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New security, new fixes, new improves?
montek92 said:
New security, new fixes, new improves?
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Those are in official releases already. Betas are usually for updating an OS or in Samsung's case the UI. Stuff that takes massive recoding.
IMO this A11 ROM is an alpha build. OP should have released this phone with A10.
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Oneplus 8 and Oneplus 8 Pro gets new beta software... What with 8T? Why no beta realese yet?
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Our releases are already Beta lol... 8T is out there only 1 month, be patient, a lot of OTA will be available during the first year for add features/fixes/security your A11 rom
My 8T is running fine...however there appears to be a wide discrepancy between the various versions/builds that are out there in the wild! From my perspective Android 11 is a stable build on the 8T, and has continued to be so through 3 updates...but I can certainly understand how many, many people feel that what they currently have on their phones is a BETA, if not an Alpha build! So what is really going on here? How can my phone run great while so many others are riddled with bugs and we ALL supposedly have the same hardware (less the different RAM and Storage) and the SAME software, and yet have diametrically opposed experiences? What are we all missing here? The only thing I can point to is where these phones are actually being assembled. If my understanding is correct the one sold in India is actually manufactured, or assembled/built in India, and when you go to the OnePlus Community Forum you can read an ENDLESS stream of constant complaints from what I believe are mostly people from India! Is this the main problem here? Is the quality control lacking in India? Are the actual parts being used in India somehow sub-par in their quality? I'm not sure exactly what's going on here but if OnePLus intends to be able to continue selling phones in India, they better get their act together!