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I recently purchased a g tablet from office depot, when I got it home I let it charge up. When I turned it on it said there was a update so I let it install, but when the tab restarted and came back up I noticed I now have a bluish line running horizontally across the screen about an inch from the bottom. By chance did the update cause this or is it just pure chance it happened on the reboot.... anyone else ever run into this?
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I got same problem. I think it is factory defect. It is like dead pixel.
I think I have to exchange for different one.
Yeah kinda what I was figuring to. Have to call in the morn see if they have one for an exchange.
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Using stock? And did it seem OK with the original firmware? It could actually be a firmware issue, as I know that VS / TnT updated the graphics drivers.
I have not seen this issue myself, but you could have a different board that could be affecting you. It's possible.
I actually saw this one when I updated from my original ROM to the first OTA update.
Since then I have applied two other updates and have not seen it.
FYI. I have contacted VS about other issues. I was not aware of the 30 days replacement warranty.
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SEARS has this, and I think Staples was 14 days. They'll exchange / take a return if there's a hardware defect. Not sure what OD's policies are.
If you recently purchased it (ie. after Thanksgiving), you probably fall under the more lax return policies most stores have for holiday shopping. If you were planning on running an alternate firmware, I'd give vegan or tnt lite a go and see if the line goes away. If you're planning or remaining stock, then I'd say return it and see if the next one has the same issue.
This just happened to me on the latest ota.
happened after first ota update. tried restoring it but no go. ended up exchanging for new one now everything is peachy
I have a P6810 that was imported from Hong Kong by Expansys. My warranty is valid until August 25, 2013. The screen has a problem where it sometimes intermittently flashes dark lines on the screen. Full screen vertical lines. It's really just like those columns of pixels aren't being lite up to the same degree as the others, and not as brightly as they should be.
It doesn't do it all the time, but it has become more frequent, and it appears in all applications as far as I can tell. I have not yet reloaded the firmware because personally it seems like more of hardware problem. Either the LCD or the LCD driver is failing.
The only place that seems to be willing to work on it is Samsung Warranty Repair in Hong Kong, and they do not accept devices that have been shipped to them for repair. All warranty repair work there must be hand delivered. I'm in Hawaii and that is not an option. Expansys is of no use. They just said contact Samsung Hong Kong Warranty Repair.
Is there anybody that works on the P6810 state side? How much does it cost to replace the LCD or the motherboard? Does anybody know? It will cost me at least $60 just to ship the thing back to Hong Kong anyway, so I'm willing to investigate other options, but I don't know what they are for a specialty item like the P6810.
me too on p6800..
i have the same issue here but i am not sure if it is really hardware fail as i am using custom erobot rom v2.3
Thank you for the response
Salamonti said:
me too on p6800..
i have the same issue here but i am not sure if it is really hardware fail as i am using custom erobot rom v2.3
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Thanks for the response. With only 2 of us responding so far it's hard to know if its just because a Super AMOLED of this size is a new technology, and there were still some bugs not worked out in the processing, or if it is as you say, and as I'm hoping, just a software issue.
My P6810 hasn't done it at all for about 2 weeks now. I'm hoping that when Ice Cream Sandwich is pushed out, that it will solve the problem once and for all.
My findings were that since mine is a p6810, it won't be fixed under warranty, and Samsung won't fix it even if I pay for it, unless I hand deliver it to Hong Kong. If I'm confident that the problem is the hardware (I'm not), then I have to buy a used p6800 on eBay and try to fix it myself. I'm not going to do that.
If yours is a p6800 couldn't it have been fixed under warranty in the U.S.? I wonder if your erobot rom 2.3 is using the same graphics driver code as Jelly Bean? In other words, was erobot rom v2.3 a custom ground up recode of everything, or did they cannibalize Jelly Bean for sections of code?
I love my p6810. I'm in Hawaii and don't have TV. I read on it every morning and watch movies on it almost every night. It's the perfect 7" tablet in my opinion, but that display issue drives me crazy.
I guess one of the morals of the store is to not trust Expansys if they tell you that they have a grey market item that is fully covered under the manufacturers warranty. They told me that, but it was not true.
i am not in US and my tb is not covered by warranty either (as i am in Egypt)
my custom rom is built on JB 4.1.2
but i know nothing about display driver so i cant figure it out
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Salamonti said:
i am not in US and my tb is not covered by warranty either (as i am in Egypt)
my custom rom is built on JB 4.1.2
but i know nothing about display driver so i cant figure it out
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Thanks for your response. When Ice Cream Sandwich comes out, I will reply about whether or not it fixes the problem.
Arobase40 said:
Some clues you may investigate on...
On the technical aspects :
- You can try to do a factory reset and see if that solve your display issue.
- Try to flash any official ROM : HC or ICS even though this is a European version.
- If the display issue is still there, then you can consider this as a hardware failure. I don't know how Law works in your country, but you could try to find a non profit organization specialized in juridical procedures which could help you in forcing Expansys to support the warranty procedure... ^^
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Unless you are a good developer or a very good modder and you like to play dice, don't even try to use the eRobot rom with your P6810...
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Thanks Arobase40.
I will probably wait until ICS comes out and then factory reset and install/upgrade to ICS immediately.
On Expansys, just as a matter of justice, I wish I could force them to do something, but my warranty expired on 8/22/13. They wouldn't answer their phone and only responded to one of several emails, saying "Contact Samsung". I think the most effective thing I can do is just let other members of xdadevelopers know what happened to me relative to Expansys.
Thanks for your input Arobase40, I appreciate your suggestions.
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I don't really understand your position about your GT 7.7 ???
As you were talking about P6810, I assumed you were talking about the International version, right ???
Then, as I said you could flash a European firmware with PC Odin as I don't think Samsung will deliver any further updates/upgrades... ^^
But whatever, and again you could simply do a factory reset to see if that solve your issue...
But if you already used a Cyanogen firmware, then just forget everything about what I said, and forget about your warranty as well... ^^
I don't understand what the members of xdadevelopers could do for you relative to Expansys, except suggesting you to contact your local non profit organization, if there is one (should be existing) ?!?!?!
Which Expansys is it ? A US one or any others ???
You have to write them an official letter as "Registered Letter with Acknowledgement of Delivery" to make things official so the warranty will be extended "indefinitely" until Expansys solve your problem...
But again, get informed yourself about your local rules or laws !!!
I got a similar problem with ASUS, as my TF101 returned 3 times in their repair center and the last time they "lost" it (it was stolen on the way to the Repair Center)... ^^
ASUS accepted to pay me back the price I paid for it but refused to compensate the prejudice as they awaited a very long time (about a month) before they just started to investigate on what happened to my device... ^^
I first wanted to go on trial with ASUS, but I tried first an official transaction with the help of a retired judge (as member of a non profit organization)...
So they finally accepted to compensate an additional 250 € of the initial 540 € price I paid (got a 60 € discount from official price)... So I got 790 € and didn't pay anything for a lawyer or for the Trial procedure...
On the other hand, if we were going to a Trial, ASUS knew they will loose and would have to pay MUCH MUCH more...
YOU are the only one to know if you want to take your chance...
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Thanks Arobase40,
Yes I am talking about a Hong Kong version. It arrived default in Mandarin(?).
The only ICS 4.2.2 version I could find was P6810XXLPL_CSC_XEU with is the United Kingdom version. I’ve downloaded it. My preference is to use this one so that my P6810 defaults into English. I do plan to use Odin for this (probably this weekend).
My planned strategy is to do a factory reset to positively flush everything out, and then use Odin to update to ICS 4.2.2. My preference is to do everything at once, and only once, because even though I have Titanium Backup installed and running, my experience with my Nook was it still took several hours to get everything setup correctly after a factory reset.
I don’t have Cyanogen firmware installed, as my goal in getting at P6810 was to buy the best, and therefore not have to spend much time mod’ing it. I have rooted though so that I could install fonts with diacritical marks.
In terms of alerting xdadevelopers to Expansys policies, the best way to get Expansys to change their policies is enough people give them feedback during the purchasing process. If I had been able to read a post like this prior to my purchase of my P6810, I would have asked more questions and made a few phone calls, and I would have been better informed and wouldn’t have purchased from Expansys unless that had been able to give me some kind of further assurance that they would stand behind the product if it was required.
Yes it was the Expansys in the U.S. It’s the one you find on the internet when Googling within the U.S..
Thanks for the suggestion on the “Registered Letter with Acknowledgment of Delivery”.
Part of the problem is that for the past month, my P6810 hasn’t displayed the problem. I’m confident that it’s coming back sometime in the future, and probably worse, but intermittent problems are tricky to demand repairs on. If the “Registered Letter with Acknowledgment of Delivery” would get me an indefinitely extended warranty though, it could be worth it. It kind of boils down to a question of how much time would it take me versus other options. I’ll have to think about it. In any case, thanks for your suggestions.
I will try to go ahead and factory reset, then update to ICS 4.2.2 this weekend and see what happens. Actually, interestingly, my P6810 tells me that it has ICS 4.2.1 installed right now, as of early July. That surprised me when I saw it yesterday because I don’t remember that happening. I certainly didn’t do it. But maybe that’s why the screen problem went away?
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GOTCHA !!!
Sounds like there are many confusions with your explanations... ^^
1) ICS is Android 4.0.x !!!
2) 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 are Jelly Bean Android versions !!! NONE of them are available for P6810 yet and will probably never be... ^^ Yes I know, I'm very defeatist and somewhat negative in my position, but Sammy will maybe prove I was wrong...
3) If your device tells you have ICS 4.2.1, then there is something wrong somewhere !!! ^^
This is the first thing you'll have to investigate on...
4) NO ONE as P6800 or P6810 owners got a 4.2.2 Android versions, and we will most probably never get such versions... ^^
5) On Expansys policies and responsibilities concerns : have you fully been informed they would send you a H.K version when you bought this device ??? Check at this when you ordered it and what your delivery and invoice mentions/forms...
6) There may be a slight chance, but go on the Samsung US website to find out the Phone number or the mail address by which you can contact them and described your issue (after you're fully sure about the real Android version you have...) and ask them for help/support and/or a RMA to send your device for repair. They will tell you if they accept to take your device under warranty to a US repair center... ^^
In Europe, we are probably better protected against juridical aspects compared to the US, but we obtain less as damages when we win while in the US you can get MUCH MUCH more if you can afford a Trial...
7) But before going that far : backup up all your internal storage (including the Titanium Backup folder) onto your hard disk computer or an external USB HDD...
8) Optionally, use Kies to backup up all your data and apps.
9) Make sure your battery is fully charged.
10) Get into your Settings and in the Backup and Reinit tab option and select "Re establish default param" (I'm unsure about the real words, as I don't have a US/English firmware version, but you should find out...
It shouldn't be that long before it'll reboot and ask you to reconfigure your Tab.
11) Don't reinstall anything and take awhile and your time to check & assure that solve your display issues. Update your default apps with Google Play and see if that's still good...
12) Finally you'll have 2 options : restore everything with Kies or copy back the Titanium Backup folder from your backup place to the internal storage, download TB and restore everything.
If after the restore you encounter the same display issues again, then you'll know you must not do a full restore, but just your apps... ^^
13) Before you try to update/upgrade or flash anything, make sure which firmware version you're downloading and installing !!! LOL
Good luck !
EDIT : when you buy anything anywhere better is to read the terms and conditions of the Online retailers... ^^
http://www.expansys-usa.com/terms/
In the European or French Expansys website, they can't do what they want as European/French rules & laws better protect customers against such illegal restrictions !!! ^^
I guess you should have consumers organizations as the ones I was referring earlier at your place, when needed...
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Thanks Arobase40,
1) You're right. I've just checked and its 4.0.4 installed. ICS was an update I made shortly after I purchased the unit. Since there will be no JB for the P6800/P6810, there's no point in my waiting for it.
5) There was no indication that an HK version would be sold/shipped. Also it does not indicate that anywhere on the receipt. I knew it would be a non-U.S. version, because Samsung only sells the P6800 within the U.S.
6) I tried asking Samsung's U.S. warranty repair center if they could repair it, but they go by model numbers, and the P6810 is not one that they will touch. Same thing with the U.K. Samsung Warranty Repair Center, they said that the serial # indicated that it wasn't made in the U.K., so they could not work on it. I couldn't even find anyone in the U.S. who sells parts (i.e. LCDs) for it, it's such a speciality item.
7 - 13) Thanks for the detailed steps. Since I realize now that I was completely confused about the version of my firmware, I realize that for sure, I'm going to have to do one or all of the steps you have outlined.
Thanks again!
As many on XDA will tell you a Phone or ROM is only as good as it’s support team. As a developer who has offered various ROMs and android mods since 2009, I have extensive experience in troubleshooting and helping others do so. And in recent years, I very rarely go out of my way to lend an opinion or even review a device, however, I think the android community should be informed about the support that the Essential Phone offers before buying their product.
I was very excited to hear about Andy Rubin's project and immediately pre-ordered the PH-1 with the extended warranty. Despite delays, I had high hopes and had every intention of making it my daily driver. The day I received the phone I also received an email stating that it was not certified for usage on Verizon’s network. Verizon is the only network where I live. I tried my existing sim card and received awful reception. I wrote a quick review and stated “This may be a simple APN fix or could be a serious issue with the radios.” Since the phone was unusable, I boxed it up awaiting Verizon certification.
About a month went by before I finally got an email stating the PH-1 was certified for Verizon. I tried the phone and still received abysmal data reception. Despite 3-4 bars, the download speeds around 3 Mbps and uploads of 0.01 Mpbs or slower. Without wifi the phone cannot complete initial setup/login, Google Assistant cannot function, and in general does not work.
I spent 3 days troubleshooting this with APNs, data resets, Manufacturer's reset, custom bands, hidden menus, confirmed the IEMI via the web portal... you name it, I tried it. During this time, I noticed there are a few spots on the top of the screen that work poorly. So, I finally decided to contact Essential’s support; the options are limited to leaving a voicemail or email. I tried leaving a voicemail that no one returned.
After a week of waiting for a return call, I moved to the email support. I summarized all the steps I had tried. I received a follow up email the next day asking me to perform factory reset….. Something that I had clearly stated I had already done. So, I did another and responded that it did not work. It took over 1 week to receive a follow up asking if I had the My Verizon app installed. I cannot imagine how this would influence data speeds, but I played their game and gave it a try. Of course there was no improvement.
Their follow up ask me to reset the APNs, which is a much more logical option than their first and second response, but once again something I clearly stated I had previously done in my initial request for support. At this point, I took my phone to a Verizon and T-Mobile store and their representatives tried new sim cards, provisioned, and troubleshooted the phone. Both Verizon and T-Mobile, have said there is nothing wrong with the setup, the sim, the apps, and the phone’s hardware is defective.
I relayed this message to Essential Support and and their response was to #1 download the Verizon app #2 reset APNS #3 set the phone to global mode…… Not only had they told me to do this before, but if they bothered to read any of my emails they would have seen this has been tried, and both Verizon and T-Mobile have independently verified the software is fine, it is not user error, and the hardware is defective.
Over the last month, I have made no progress at all on the radio issue and it has been 4 days since Essential’s last lackluster communication.
Despite reminding their support staff several times, no has even tried to troubleshoot the other issue I am having with the screen involving poor touch sensitivity on the superior border. No one has offered me a new phone nor referred to my Essential Extended Care (which I do not want pay the deductible for a phone that never worked). When I asked to return, the phone they said it was 14 day window despite the phone not being certified on my network for the first month I had not the phone.
Over the years, I have owned Motorola Droid, Galaxy Nexus (toro + maguro), G2, G3, 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, GS3, GS4, GS5, Sony Pollux, Nexus 4, Nexus n6p, among others, and I have had to call support for hardware issues. The Essential Phone is by a very wide margin has the worst support I have ever come across and Google’s has had the best.
In its prime, my custom ROM had well over 100,000 users and I tend to be the only one on the team who offered support, so I completely understand android support like very few on this planet. As of last month before the price break, Essential was estimated to have only sold 5,000 phones. Even with a bare bones staff fielding emails and not checking voicemail, their support volume per day is likely less than what I personally did for free for our community for free as part of a “hobby” for almost a decade.
To sum it all up: “Buyer Beware”
DHO said:
As many on XDA will tell you a Phone or ROM is only as good as it’s support team. As a developer who has offered various ROMs and android mods since 2009, I have extensive experience in troubleshooting and helping others do so. And in recent years, I very rarely go out of my way to lend an opinion or even review a device, however, I think the android community should be informed about the support that the Essential Phone offers before buying their product.
I was very excited to hear about Andy Rubin's project and immediately pre-ordered the PH-1 with the extended warranty. Despite delays, I had high hopes and had every intention of making it my daily driver. The day I received the phone I also received an email stating that it was not certified for usage on Verizon’s network. Verizon is the only network where I live. I tried my existing sim card and received awful reception. I wrote a quick review and stated “This may be a simple APN fix or could be a serious issue with the radios.” Since the phone was unusable, I boxed it up awaiting Verizon certification.
About a month went by before I finally got an email stating the PH-1 was certified for Verizon. I tried the phone and still received abysmal data reception. Despite 3-4 bars, the download speeds around 3 Mbps and uploads of 0.01 Mpbs or slower. Without wifi the phone cannot complete initial setup/login, Google Assistant cannot function, and in general does not work.
I spent 3 days troubleshooting this with APNs, data resets, Manufacturer's reset, custom bands, hidden menus, confirmed the IEMI via the web portal... you name it, I tried it. During this time, I noticed there are a few spots on the top of the screen that work poorly. So, I finally decided to contact Essential’s support; the options are limited to leaving a voicemail or email. I tried leaving a voicemail that no one returned.
After a week of waiting for a return call, I moved to the email support. I summarized all the steps I had tried. I received a follow up email the next day asking me to perform factory reset….. Something that I had clearly stated I had already done. So, I did another and responded that it did not work. It took over 1 week to receive a follow up asking if I had the My Verizon app installed. I cannot imagine how this would influence data speeds, but I played their game and gave it a try. Of course there was no improvement.
Their follow up ask me to reset the APNs, which is a much more logical option than their first and second response, but once again something I clearly stated I had previously done in my initial request for support. At this point, I took my phone to a Verizon and T-Mobile store and their representatives tried new sim cards, provisioned, and troubleshooted the phone. Both Verizon and T-Mobile, have said there is nothing wrong with the setup, the sim, the apps, and the phone’s hardware is defective.
I relayed this message to Essential Support and and their response was to #1 download the Verizon app #2 reset APNS #3 set the phone to global mode…… Not only had they told me to do this before, but if they bothered to read any of my emails they would have seen this has been tried, and both Verizon and T-Mobile have independently verified the software is fine, it is not user error, and the hardware is defective.
Over the last month, I have made no progress at all on the radio issue and it has been 4 days since Essential’s last lackluster communication.
Despite reminding their support staff several times, no has even tried to troubleshoot the other issue I am having with the screen involving poor touch sensitivity on the superior border. No one has offered me a new phone nor referred to my Essential Extended Care (which I do not want pay the deductible for a phone that never worked). When I asked to return, the phone they said it was 14 day window despite the phone not being certified on my network for the first month I had not the phone.
Over the years, I have owned Motorola Droid, Galaxy Nexus (toro + maguro), G2, G3, 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, GS3, GS4, GS5, Sony Pollux, Nexus 4, Nexus n6p, among others, and I have had to call support for hardware issues. The Essential Phone is by a very wide margin has the worst support I have ever come across and Google’s has had the best.
In its prime, my custom ROM had well over 100,000 users and I tend to be the only one on the team who offered support, so I completely understand android support like very few on this planet. As of last month before the price break, Essential was estimated to have only sold 5,000 phones. Even with a bare bones staff fielding emails and not checking voicemail, their support volume per day is likely less than what I personally did for free for our community for free as part of a “hobby” for almost a decade.
To sum it all up: “Buyer Beware”
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Man...
I really like this phone... It hit all the sweet spots for me as a device... And I'm in love with the battery life...
But to see @DHO blast Essential like this...
I have seen on other posts that the Essential team reads XDA... And I can only hope that seeing a respected developer complain in such an articulate way has some gravity with them to possibly step up their game...
The hardware (for me on AT&T) has been superb... And I have few if any complaints... But maybe it has to do with the CDMA portion of the device which I will never have to deal with
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thanks for the detailed post. It's good to be prepared when it's required. Hope they change their support model and performance very soon.
cheers
rignfool said:
Man...
I really like this phone... It hit all the sweet spots for me as a device... And I'm in love with the battery life...
But to see @DHO blast Essential like this...
I have seen on other posts that the Essential team reads XDA... And I can only hope that seeing a respected developer complain in such an articulate way has some gravity with them to possibly step up their game...
The hardware (for me on AT&T) has been superb... And I have few if any complaints... But maybe it has to do with the CDMA portion of the device which I will never have to deal with
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rignfool Thanks.
With a little luck word will get out and they will step up their game.
I really hope this post doesn't put all future custom rom development in a death spiral before it even starts. :/
Damn that sucks... I've been using my phone on Sprint for several days and the reception has been outstanding, full bars of LTE+ almost everywhere, while the other phones in my family (Galaxy S7, Galaxy S6, 2 iPhone 7's) get three bars of LTE at most. Hope you get this sorted out, sucks that it happened in the first place.
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12paq said:
I really hope this post doesn't put all future custom rom development in a death spiral before it even starts. :/
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Very unlikely, cause @invisiblek has been going ham in terms of getting LOS/TWRP stable on this device.
DHO, sorry to hear you are having issues. I am a Verizon user in Houston. When I first got my PH-1, I couldn't get Verizon to stay connected. Constant drops, like non-stop and unusable.. I was ready to send it back. It was incredibly frustrating. Then I read a post here about resetting radio setting. I changed to Europe, then changed back to US. I set to LTE/CMDA, in the ping/radio section and also on the user network setting.. Who knows what else I changed and changed back. I was trying anything and everything I could. I am definitely a user, not a cellular techie. But Verizon started staying connected, even showing LTE+ most of the time.
Good luck. Maybe you have a defective phone? Seems you obviously know all about troubleshooting and have tried everything. If you can get it working on Verizon, I am confident you will like the PH-1.
Still issues with Verizon WiFi calling, Verizon voicemail and Verizon visual voicemail. But for me, I can live without the WiFi calling and have workaround for vm.
Frustrating situation, no doubt. All the best.
I second the defective phone scenario.. from my reading these forms the first batches with the foam earpiece had numerous issues. Lots of posts about connectivity issues that were resolved by replacement phones
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12paq said:
I really hope this post doesn't put all future custom rom development in a death spiral before it even starts. :/
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I was surprised, in my circle of devs. I am the only one to purchase the PH-1. Based on my feedback I know it has prevented a few people who were on the fence.
I'm sure once more source becomes available this phone will pick up support. It has TWRP before the Pixel2. And invisiblek is as good as it gets for device bring up. So there is hope
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Damn that sucks... I've been using my phone on Sprint for several days and the reception has been outstanding, full bars of LTE+ almost everywhere, while the other phones in my family (Galaxy S7, Galaxy S6, 2 iPhone 7's) get three bars of LTE at most. Hope you get this sorted out, sucks that it happened in the first place.
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Very unlikely, cause @invisiblek has been going ham in terms of getting LOS/TWRP stable on this device.
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Thanks
houstonironman said:
DHO, sorry to hear you are having issues. I am a Verizon user in Houston. When I first got my PH-1, I couldn't get Verizon to stay connected. Constant drops, like non-stop and unusable.. I was ready to send it back. It was incredibly frustrating. Then I read a post here about resetting radio setting. I changed to Europe, then changed back to US. I set to LTE/CMDA, in the ping/radio section and also on the user network setting.. Who knows what else I changed and changed back. I was trying anything and everything I could. I am definitely a user, not a cellular techie. But Verizon started staying connected, even showing LTE+ most of the time.
Good luck. Maybe you have a defective phone? Seems you obviously know all about troubleshooting and have tried everything. If you can get it working on Verizon, I am confident you will like the PH-1.
Still issues with Verizon WiFi calling, Verizon voicemail and Verizon visual voicemail. But for me, I can live without the WiFi calling and have workaround for vm.
Frustrating situation, no doubt. All the best.
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I have tried this. I have noticed some VERY interesting bugs in the USA band that are causing some sort of error resulting in the deactivation of the data. I wish I could grab a logcat (need SU). If their support was more .... receptive ... I would gladly report how to replicate RIL failures that result in complete deactivation of the radios. Unfortunately this is not the underplaying cause of my issue :/
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I second the defective phone scenario.. from my reading these forms the first batches with the foam earpiece had numerous issues. Lots of posts about connectivity issues that were resolved by replacement phones
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Yea, I am hoping they will do the right thing and replace it.
DHO said:
I have tried this. I have noticed some VERY interesting bugs in the USA band that are causing some sort of error resulting in the deactivation of the data. I wish I could grab a logcat (need SU). If their support was more .... receptive ... I would gladly report how to replicate RIL failures that result in complete deactivation of the radios. Unfortunately this is not the underplaying cause of my issue :/
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I am surprised to hear you have not rooted yet with it being available.
Sure you probably tried already but take the sim out and factory reset. Put sim in and factory reset again. Make no other changes unless your trying to get volte to work. Info based on an already active Verizon sim account.
The support reps for some reason go by their tech cheat sheet all the time, instead of reading email fully and understanding that they are communicating to a tech savvy person. I had that before with other OEMs, where they would make go through troubleshooting which were already done previously. Another thing would be if support team knows that this is an average user who doesn't really play nice with technology, then yes, going through troubleshooting steps would be logical.
So, I am planning to buy this phone soon, do users on T-Mobile network have any cell/data issues?
@DHO I assume you've tried the latest stock build? I assume they had to push something once it was Verizon certified. Mine, along with a couple other devs I work with, are working just fine on Verizon.
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The support reps for some reason go by their tech cheat sheet all the time, instead of reading email fully and understanding that they are communicating to a tech savvy person. I had that before with other OEMs, where they would make go through troubleshooting which were already done previously. Another thing would be if support team knows that this is an average user who doesn't really play nice with technology, then yes, going through troubleshooting steps would be logical.
So, I am planning to buy this phone soon, do users on T-Mobile network have any cell/data issues?
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I'm on T-Mobile here in Los Angeles with no problems whatsoever compared to my previous S8+ and HTC U11 devices. I know others have reported reception issues on T-Mobile, but I personally am perfectly happy on T-Mobile here.
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@DHO I assume you've tried the latest stock build? I assume they had to push something once it was Verizon certified. Mine, along with a couple other devs I work with, are working just fine on Verizon.
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I agree with this statement.
I'm on Verizon and I've had decent speeds.
I've been averaging between 35 - 45 Mb/s down and 7-10 up.
The lowest I've had it drop is 25 down and 2 up.
I can't say i've had any drop out issues either.
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I am surprised to hear you have not rooted yet with it being available.
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I don't want to give them a reason to say I voided the warranty. If they want proper logs, I would be happy to supply.
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Sure you probably tried already but take the sim out and factory reset. Put sim in and factory reset again. Make no other changes unless your trying to get volte to work. Info based on an already active Verizon sim account.
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Yep tried everything. The Data speeds are insufficient to support voLTE. Even with the LTE+ icon I get 1G speeds,.. a few decibites a second. LOL
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The support reps for some reason go by their tech cheat sheet all the time, instead of reading email fully and understanding that they are communicating to a tech savvy person. I had that before with other OEMs, where they would make go through troubleshooting which were already done previously. Another thing would be if support team knows that this is an average user who doesn't really play nice with technology, then yes, going through troubleshooting steps would be logical.
So, I am planning to buy this phone soon, do users on T-Mobile network have any cell/data issues?
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Both Verizon and T-mobile has identical issues for me.
I know their support is check list based. So I walked them through each step I tried..... around the 6th follow up email I eve wrote out a numbered list because they had circled back to asking the same questions they had previously.
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@DHO I assume you've tried the latest stock build? I assume they had to push something once it was Verizon certified. Mine, along with a couple other devs I work with, are working just fine on Verizon.
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Yes. I have tried on each release, including the one pushed over the last week. I have also tried a T-Mobile sim card and no difference than Verizon.
I know this phone is now "Certified" by Verizon but that is somewhat misleading. Because it is not an actual Verizon phone they block it from supporting WiFi calling and Visual Voicemail. You cannot even download and install Verizon's Visual Voicemail app from the Play store and built in Visual Voicemail in the Google Dialer does not work on Verizon. Also while a Verizon SIM is installed in the phone WiFi calling options completely disappear from settings. I think there is one person who said those two features are working for him but for the vast majority of us it does not work. I'm with DHO 100%. With the very poor customer support and the phone not functioning as well as most other phones there are far better options out there. I had connectivity issues with T-Mobile so bad I switched to Verizon and then found out the hard way they don't support those features on this phone. I ended up taking advantage of Verizon's 50% off the Pixel 2 XL with certain trade ins and ordered a Pixel 2 XL to use. I've ended up with a $700 Essential phone I cannot use. So I agree with DHO........BUYER BEWARE
That sounds more like Verizon douche baggery at work, more so than a problem with Essential's support.
Verizon is the one that decides who gets those features, not the phone manufacturer...
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That sounds more like Verizon douche baggery at work, more so than a problem with Essential's support.
Verizon is the one that decides who gets those features, not the phone manufacturer...
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For WiFi calling, I think a little column A and a little column B here-.
their radio reception is just awful- that's it. if you get good signal, then you will not likely have issue. even if you go to relatively worse area, you won't notice it too much. but if you actually live or work at a place with weak signal, then your signal drops way too often compared to any other ****ty plastic old phones.
no real way to fix it unless there's some crazy baseband update that somehow drastically improves it. I think they just did not do enough field testing to see how weak signal reception the device can handle. and now, they merely provide lackluster response because they cannot do anything and they cannot really admit that they ****ed up the "essential" part of the essential ph-1. i personally like this phone only because of the price is competitive and LineageOS is now finally supported. I still have some return window thanks to Amazon's holiday return policy, but might have to wrap this up and send back to Amazon for being defective.
Because, I also get ****ty reception on T-Mobile.
Does anyone know when Google will start to actually post the images? This is the first phone I can remember having in my hand without any factory images posted.
I was wondering the same thing. Since no factory images are up, I tried the Android Flash Tool, which correctly identified the phone as a 4a, but said it was "unsupported". I've never tried the Flash Tool before, fairly easy to use, but I do wonder how fast the downloads will be. But, yeah, factory images should be up. I never completely trust a phone out of the box, prefer to do a wipe and flash before setup and use. I mean, it was probably built in China, right? I don't need any Chinese spies looking at my porn.
Well, today (Aug 20) was supposed to be the official debut, even though many of us have had these phones at least a couple of days now. If they dont have the images posted by tomorrow, then someone at Google is asleep at the wheel!
Maybe Android 11 is coming so soon they'll wait to post that?
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I mean, it was probably built in China, right? I don't need any Chinese spies looking at my porn.
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I think I read somewhere that, as Google is moving away from China, they've been producing more in Viet Nam. The Pixel 4a is supposed to be the first phone to be fully produced outside of China. That's cool, right?
i started tweeting at @madebygoogle & @googledevs asking them to upload factory images & kernel source lol maybe itll get someones attention but not counting on it
I emailed google support to ask if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the pixel 4a with magisk would void the warranty. The response was that it would not void the warranty. That convinced me to buy a second Pixel 4A to replace my other moto x4 as well.
I need to root only becaasue I need telephone call recording with bluetooth. I have paid versions of both Call Recorder (skvalex) and BoldBeast, but neither work with bluetooth if the phone is not rooted, so it is good to know I can root as soon as an image is available. Here is the response I got:
" I understand you'd like to know if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the device would void the warranty. Let me help you with the details. Warranty of your device is still covered regardless of whether a device was rooted or unlocked. However, if you are experiencing any issue after rooting the device, we might suggest you to unroot the same in order to get the issue resolved. Android is not against rooting, but we can't guarantee functionality if the source code for the Android OS has been modified hence we might ask you to unroot the device before helping you with the warranty options."
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I think I read somewhere that, as Google is moving away from China, they've been producing more in Viet Nam. The Pixel 4a is supposed to be the first phone to be fully produced outside of China. That's cool, right?
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Box says phone made in Vietnam, accessories made in China. My problem with China is with human rights more than a concern about spying. My original post was meant to be funny. That having been said, Vietnam's human rights record isn't so great, either.
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Maybe Android 11 is coming so soon they'll wait to post that?
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I'm kinda thinking this as well. I've got the final/release candidate Android 11 beta on my Pixel 2XL right now. It's pretty good, but there are a few problems I've noticed that should be cleaned up before it goes final. It wouldn't surprise me if they release another beta/Release Candidate #2. Google probably was shooting for a simultaneous launch, but couldn't get 11 finalized in time. I also assume there's a beta version of 11 for the 4a, because there has to be if it's about to be upgraded to 11, right? At least post those images up.
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Box says phone made in Vietnam, accessories made in China. My problem with China is with human rights more than a concern about spying. My original post was meant to be funny. That having been said, Vietnam's human rights record isn't so great, either.
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China has been throwing its economic weight around to effectively undercut any and all competition. It's just a reality if you want to have a manufacturing-based economy in 2020 that you'll have to make an incentive to drive business your direction. Unfortunately, many companies were in a catch-22 where if they report the rampant IP-theft in connection with the CCP they would either lose their competitive margin or potentially lose the ability to manufacture their product at all, because China also has hoarded the best tooling tech.
If there's one thing that the US' current administration has done correctly, it's to bare China's fangs. Hopefully, with commerce forcefully directed elsewhere, the dire need for profit margin will ease a bit in the poorer countries of the region, giving way for better human rights adherence. At least, that's my wishful thinking.
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I emailed google support to ask if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the pixel 4a with magisk would void the warranty. The response was that it would not void the warranty. That convinced me to buy a second Pixel 4A to replace my other moto x4 as well.
" I understand you'd like to know if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the device would void the warranty. Let me help you with the details. Warranty of your device is still covered regardless of whether a device was rooted or unlocked. However, if you are experiencing any issue after rooting the device, we might suggest you to unroot the same in order to get the issue resolved. Android is not against rooting, but we can't guarantee functionality if the source code for the Android OS has been modified hence we might ask you to unroot the device before helping you with the warranty options."
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Save that e-mail! While that rep said it won't, that doesn't mean it is true as a company policy. But the fact that you have it in writing from a Google rep gives you some ammunition in case they do try and say your warranty is void.
Yeah, I fired off a few tweets to @google asking them about the factory images. I think the more people who ask, more of a problem it will be for them,,,maybe.
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i started tweeting at @madebygoogle & [URL="https://twitter.com/googledevs" @googledevs[/URL] asking them to upload factory images & kernel source lol maybe itll get someones attention but not counting on it
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Does make for a September update a big question. Could G just start it on 11? Device rollout was delayed. Maybe a thought. I am hoping for a 10 release of at least our current as released build QD4A.200805.003. Especially if 11 bootloader has issues with . . . .
A nice comparison to my 3a, 3 is side by side the case of a 3 in size and a display more than 3a. Surprised hole punch (which would not think) goes away in most use...
reached out to google support team after making a fuss & finally got a pretty good answer...
In regards to Factory image availability on our developer page, the image would be updated post security patch of Sept. As it's a new device we are shipping the devices with August update, once the device specific builds are released it will reflect on Developer images.
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I am hoping for a 10 release of at least our current as released build QD4A.200805.003.
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This is the build that it was released with. I was surprised, because I had read so many articles saying the phones had been assembled months ago and were in a warehouse waiting for release. I doubt they re-flashed all the phones, so I suspect they were manufactured more recently. I had expected a very old security release to be on them, but it's the August release.
Build # convention for .003 was carrier specific builds on rest of Pixel line...is a wonder.
Since I have a audience I get no Sprint dial code switching on Google Fi Network.
So TMobile here now...no chat messenger!
US Cellular is my other provider same thing. Call screen is working.
Radio sensitivity is better than 3a nice to have in the boonies here.
Yeah I kinda figured they would wait til the Sept patch is out to provide the factory images. Sucks a little that is over two weeks from now.
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reached out to google support team after making a fuss & finally got a pretty good answer...
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I'm usually a happy silent observer because the factory images are usually out when the phone comes out, but I am a little annoyed because I have my new phone and I don't want to set it up again in two weeks.
Is there any reliable way to dump the ROM and get the boot image without root?
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I'm usually a happy silent observer because the factory images are usually out when the phone comes out, but I am a little annoyed because I have my new phone and I don't want to set it up again in two weeks.
Is there any reliable way to dump the ROM and get the boot image without root?
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Why would you have to set it up again? You can unlock the bootloader now.
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Why would you have to set it up again? You can unlock the bootloader now.
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Just because I want to flash Magisk, I can't do that without the boot image. Once I went TitaniumBackup, I never went back. But ya know, I need root for that
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Just because I want to flash Magisk, I can't do that without the boot image. Once I went TitaniumBackup, I never went back. But ya know, I need root for that
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Yes, I do, too. But I roughed it out setting up the phone without it. Most of my apps had data in the cloud or their own backup file. I transferred other files manually. I'll root, but I don't need to setup my phone twice because I unlocked the bootloader first.
Hey guys,
I posted on the other threads but it seems like my concern shifts to be another.
First off: Yes I have tried switching regions with the tutorials. No nothing happened. I switched back to EuEx, no dualism because I don't need it.
Yes I tried every possible EU VPN Tunnel and updating OTA.
Nothing helped.
Now I have searched for my current Firmware, and there is no actual discussion about it. It is CPH2025_11_A.52 I am on the security Patch Level December 2020. So it came to my mind that it could actually be the firmware that prevents the updatingprocess. Is this possible?
With every other EU-Colleague of mine getting at least C59 with EuEX I'm starting to think it's just my phone.
Is there something I can do about it or do I have to wait for a flashable Android 11 zip? Which would ultimately leave me with selling the phone since I purchased it in regards to receiving an android 11 smartphone.
Thanks for reading in advance!
No problem with your version ,its just Oppo s way of doing things.I have cph 2025.11.A50 november security patch.
I reached them and they said i should take my unit to service ,i asked them why?its not broken !
Very wierd solution.
My phone works like a charm ,great performance ,good battery life ,so im happy with the software.
P.s bought phone from Switzerland.
@andreiselegean1984 @CaptainRage while it may not be broken on the hardware level there definitely seems to be something wrong with it, so sending it in is not that weird a solution imho. There surely is some sort of repair service in your country that acts as an official Oppo partner for warranty repairs, so why not just contact them and see if they can help by just flashing the newest software onto it and be done with it. The only hassle being that you'll have to do without it for a couples of days but maybe you still have one of your older phones that you can use instead for the time being...
Well Oppo doesn't seem to be cooperating that much:
We are sorry to know that you didn’t receive the ColorOS 11 update on your Find X2 Pro just yet.
In order to clarify this for you, please allow us to offer you a background explanation.
To make sure everything of the new version can run smoothly and reduce the unnecessary risk of the end-user, the ColorOS 11 update is released in batches. This is a protective measure used in global leave for all the new software versions.That’s why a certain amount of devices don’t receive the update on the announced date. But don’t worry! As your satisfaction is our priority, we at OPPO are doing our best to release the update for your phone as soon as possible. Rest assured that you will receive ColorOS 11 soon.
I appreciate your understanding and wish you a wonderful day!
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Well Oppo doesn't seem to be cooperating that much:
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This is just the usual BS the customer service gives you, forget about that. There have to be companies in your country that are official Oppo service partners which do all the repairs that are eligible for warranty. Contact one of them directly and tell them what the problem is and see if they accept it as a warranty repair.