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DevilCase bumpers now available for preorder

And they come with a free glass screen protector!
http://www.twdevilcase.com/en/index.php?menu=prod_detail&mid=1&did=1&pid=5110&list=class
UPDATE 11/16: They seem to have taken down the page from the store, which is unfortunate as I already ordered and paid for my bumper Will post updates on shipping and/or cancellation status
UPDATE 2: It's back up
UPDATE 3: Check your spam for shipping confirmation!
UPDATE 4 : This case absolutely destroyed my signal strength, it will be going on eBay tonight. I personally do not recommend this case despite the looks/protection it offers

Thanks for heads up, preordered just in time - offer on for 1 more day only

Update: my order has shipped

Redonkulous said:
Update: my order has shipped
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Wow, really? Which color did you get? I ordered green right before I created this thread and haven't gotten a shipping email yet

Hi, I ordered silver
Hi friend ,
We've sent your order out on Nov 19 afternoon (GMT+8), the EMS tracking number is Exxxxxxxxxx

Redonkulous said:
Hi, I ordered silver
Hi friend ,
We've sent your order out on Nov 19 afternoon (GMT+8), the EMS tracking number is Exxxxxxxxxx
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Nice, let me know how you like it! Never used one of these before but they look amazing.

Yes, I had a Kewers on my Z1c last year which looks pretty similar and would recommend in case your pre order falls through, they are also about to release for Z5. Similarly I've seen Deff Japan bring out an exquisite frame recently for the Z5, but the cost factored in with Japanese export cost makes it a little prohibitive. Looks very nice all the same

Ordered a GRAPHITE black. Hopefully it doesn't block signal and hopefully the fingerprint will still work.
I did also get a back matte glass screen protectors.

Just saw my shipping confirmation email, if you guys haven't gotten it yet, check your spam mail--all their emails to me went straight to spam.

Just got mine in today. First time I've ever owned one of these cases and liking the look so far. Just put it on so can't say anything for signal loss.
Got the front glass screen protector, which sadly does not come with a cut out for the front-facing camera.
Volume rocker can be a bit of a struggle and will definitely take me some getting used to but camera button works great and the cut out for the power button/fingerprint sensor is spacious, allowing you to unlock it with little fuss.

blakestimac said:
Just got mine in today. First time I've ever owned one of these cases and liking the look so far. Just put it on so can't say anything for signal loss.
Got the front glass screen protector, which sadly does not come with a cut out for the front-facing camera.
Volume rocker can be a bit of a struggle and will definitely take me some getting used to but camera button works great and the cut out for the power button/fingerprint sensor is spacious, allowing you to unlock it with little fuss.
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Thanks for posting pictures, I might buy one of these for myself. What is the cutout at the top of the device for? Or is that there to save material?

Not sure, actually. Possible material saving, possibly for signal loss. You're guess is as good as mine.

Had the graphite black one... I find it really hard to use the power button and fingerprint scanner... Anyone else?
I'm thinking of returning it.

ml2514 said:
Had the graphite black one... I find it really hard to use the power button and fingerprint scanner... Anyone else?
I'm thinking of returning it.
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Not having any trouble getting my fingerprint to register, but the initial power button press does require a little adjustment. Still, not a dealbreaker for me.

received mine today, very impressed - not having issues with fingerprint scanner, I use my right thumb and it's small enough to squidge in between the raised area Not put on tempered yet, still using Sony provided protector

Got mine last night, green on green so I won't post duplicate pictures.
Signal quality has taken a noticeable hit. I am no longer able to make calls or texts in my bedroom whereas before I had low signal that would only occasionally drop. Now I have absolutely nothing unless I stand by the window. TWS has gone up, but I haven't been paying enough attention to what it was before to say how much. I just know it wasn't in the high 30% range like it is now.
I can't decide if I like the green on green look--as you can see from the other pictures, the greens clearly do not match. It's a nice green, just not the same as the phone. Would look sexy on a white phone imo, but I don't think I'm going to be keeping it on mine. I'm either going to go with graphite black or just wait for rubber bumper cases. The signal hit is so much stronger than I anticipated I don't think it's worth it for me.
With that said, I will give it a week or two to see if things settle down. It is a beautiful case, fits very well, and will definitely protect during even a disastrous drop. Fingerprint reader is way easier to access than with my tudia case.
The back screen protector is extremely precisely cut and combined with the bumper it was almost a brainless install. Matte finish is not perfect in some areas but I don't mind. Not great if you have ocd, but I'm fairly particular and it doesn't bother me. It's like they sprayed the finish on too thick in one or two spots around the camera.
Overall I would definitely recommend the case/company, but there's some inherent problems with using metal that can be extremely problematic

After a full day of failed texts, battery drain, dropped signals, and maybe missed calls (who knows?) I can say for certain that I would not recommend this case to anyone. My messages were failing with 2 and 3 bars of service; I walked out of my office at work and got hit with 7 texts yesterday despite having moderate signal the whole time. I am really hoping this is somehow a fluke, but it seems like the aluminum is just too much. Hopefully the rest of you are having a better experience.

I was going to buy one of these, since i'm nearly to buy a Z5, to change my oldie Z1, I have the bumper for the Z1 and have not problem at all, reading these I see it has a lot of problems so is a shame I love this devilcase, anyone with a good review or its just not worth it to buy one of these?

I got mine just two days ago, it is dark green color. The bumper is really really awesome. Perfectly match with my dark green Sumire
About the losing signal issue, I am seemingly facing the same but it is rarely happened. Just once or twice if I am not mistaken. I wonder if it is really because of the bumper case.

Posted mine here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64403556

"Look" of the device (aesthetics)

Is the Google Pixel XL as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Google Pixel XL is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Google Pixel XL is a beautiful phone.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

looks like a fricken Iphone; thats the only thing I dislike about it so far

lovely device

The device looks much better in person, it's sleek simple and sexy.

I love the device, and the subtle reminders that HTC built this phone, it's been awhile since I owned a uni body aluminum phone and I'm really enjoying it.
Some people don't like that glass on the back, I think it gives it personality.

We picked up an XL for the wife on the weekend... I like it a lot better in person than what you see on a picture. I especially liked the silver edition (I think most people do considering it's basically sold out everywhere).
I don't buy the whole "it looks like an iphone" thing... it's a slab device.. they all look the same.
Maybe the bottom bezel is a little too big, but at least there's no physical button.

The bezel is not has big as it seemed in photos. Very well balanced. I kind of wish the volume buttons were on the other side and higher up. This could be an issue with my car mount squeezing them. If so, I might have to get a magnetic one.

I like the device. It looks utilitarian, something I loved about the Nexus 5. I'm kinda over the glossy, reflected fronts and backs of Samsungs. Both Pixels look unassuming and elegant.

I'm actually on the other side of the fence relative to most of the other comments here. I saw the pics\videos and thought it looked alright, then got mine yesterday and honestly I think it's pretty damn ugly. It doesn't matter much to me personally as I'm going to have it cased up at all times, but I think the shade on the back looks pretty half assed, and it picks up fingerprints like crazy. The bezels are almost exactly the same as an iphone, but it feels larger with no button to interrupt that space. Aside from that I love the phone, but aesthetically it's a meh for me at best.

Paint faded while a case was on, material was a soft rubber. Google claimed this as wear and tear while other users experiencing the same issue received replacements.

2 STARS. Never understood the fascination with how a phone looks. I've always put my phone in a drop resistant case the moment I got the phone, as have many others. Don't want it to break. I wish companies would stop wasting so much time on how it looks and make it perform the damn best that it can.
The Pixel XL's design is a step backwards for Google. Obvious iPhone clone aside, it has a huge bottom area with nothing on it. Why? The back is 1/2 covered in glass. It looks so stupid! Why not make it completely glass. It's like they did something just to make it different, no matter how stupid it looks.
I don't even care that much, put it in an otterbox defender case and I never see the phone anyway. Just the otterbox case.

When I first saw the leaked renders, I was completely unimpressed. But I felt the same about the Nexus 6P and now I love the look of that phone.
I just got the Pixel XL a few days ago (Quite Black). My first thought was it was an obvious iPhone clone. I know, there's only so much you can do with a slab device. But at the same time, look at the Nexus 6P. Look at the S7 Edge. Look at the Moto Z. None of those look like an iPhone. I carry an iPhone 6 for work, and the Pixel XL at first glance looks very much like a big iP6.
That said, the look has really grown on me and I like it. I put a matte clear skin on it from BSE, and I prefer the look of matte over the glossy glass panel. The subtle chamfers on the front and the aluminum and glass construction feel and look like quality. I like the not quite black colors of the Quite Black.
I haven't felt the phone is top heavy, and feels balanced despite some reviews. And it's thin enough that I can put a clear TPU case on it to show off its looks, without making it feel thick and bulky. Actually the case adds just the right grip.
I'll give it four stars for quality, and take the fifth star away for lack of originality in design .

I stuck a Dbrand skin on mine. I like the build quality but am not a fan of the half glass back design. With the skin on I'm satisfied. The phone is well balanced and feels great in hand. I like it a lot. I don't mind the large chin either, helps to make holding the phone in landscape orientation.

2 stars here. I have never held an huge phone like this. Needless to say I absolutely hate the bottom bezel, reaching the top of the display is almost impossible for me for that, other than with two hands. The glass back bit on the back is beyond ridiculous. The texture on the power button is nice, but I don't like that its placed above the volume rocker, and I don't like that the volume rocker is on the same side as the power button. The only thing I liked is the touch of the aluminium on the back, and the device is simple looking, not for them attention whores, that's it. Massive improvements could and should be done in next version.

I don't really blame the "Iphone looking" design cuz I personally it looks more like an HTC phone. The glass back is really concerning because it would be hazardous to use the phone if you drop the phone and the glass back gets smashed. It does look sort of awkward, but it doesn't look horrendous to me. Hey, but the bottom firing MONO speaker that looks like a stereo speaker though :S Apart from that, I really like the phone. I just don't think it should cost that much.

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I don't really blame the "Iphone looking" design cuz I personally it looks more like an HTC phone. The glass back is really concerning because it would be hazardous to use the phone if you drop the phone and the glass back gets smashed. It does look sort of awkward, but it doesn't look horrendous to me. Hey, but the bottom firing MONO speaker that looks like a stereo speaker though :S Apart from that, I really like the phone. I just don't think it should cost that much.
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Cost was my main sticking point too. The Verizon went and offered the Pixel for $10/mo and the XL (128GB) for $20/mo. Main problem removed, and now I have one ordered.
Edit: Sorry, $8.33/mo for the Pixel XL 128GB with trade-in of Galaxy S5! Unreal.

Novakingwai said:
2 STARS. Never understood the fascination with how a phone looks. I've always put my phone in a drop resistant case the moment I got the phone, as have many others. Don't want it to break. I wish companies would stop wasting so much time on how it looks and make it perform the damn best that it can.
The Pixel XL's design is a step backwards for Google. Obvious iPhone clone aside, it has a huge bottom area with nothing on it. Why? The back is 1/2 covered in glass. It looks so stupid! Why not make it completely glass. It's like they did something just to make it different, no matter how stupid it looks.
I don't even care that much, put it in an otterbox defender case and I never see the phone anyway. Just the otterbox case.
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I think the glass something to do with improving signal. If not, it's a poor design choice.
I still think it's a good looking phone. It's not quite the iPhone 7 but this and the OP3 and are the best looking droids in my opinion.

Average looking device huge bezels nothing aesthetically pleasing about it.

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The smartphone is truly are beautiful. Awesome

4/5
The only complaint is the bottom bezel. Which I know everyone complains about anyways, but it's really the only thing that I would immediately wish to change about this phone. Everything else is very clean and sturdy build quality wise, a lot of past phones have weird gaps along the display or certain parts wiggle when you flex the device. The metal body goes a long way towards this problem, but I think they really nailed that portion of the phone.

Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel XL feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I almost purchased the 6P when it came out, but it felt a little too big for me even though I have big hands. I think the Pixel XL is the perfect size. Feels only slightly larger than my S6 that I came from.

So the Pixel XL feels very nice in the hand. It has rounded sides that are smooth while holding it. My problem is, it's REALLY smooth when you're holding it. My case doesn't arrive until Sunday and I'm afraid I'm going to drop the thing because it's so slippery. I understand their choice of materials and looks and I'm ok with that. But they really needed to add some sort of texture to the side so I'm not scared of dropping the thing. Not EVERYONE uses a case. They shouldn't make it feel like I'm walking a tight rope if I don't. 3/5 stars.
Actually, I would probably do 5 based on the rounded feel in yours hands is very nice. But it'd give it a 3 because it's slippery! So it'd be a 4 overall. I can't change my vote for this topic, I voted a 3 the first time. I just wanted to clarify my thinking here

Coming from a Note 7, it's feels perfectly fine (size wise) in my hand. I ordered a clear case before the phone arrived and put it in soon after I got the phone b/c I'm notorious for drops. Without a case the XL feels way too slick to go without a case. I've ordered a Rhinoshield bumper - I'm very interested in how it'll feel. I care barely palm a regulation basketball if that helps at all.

feels small and light, compared to my nexus 6

My Note 5 was very similar in size, so this doesn't feel much different - used to holding a phablet, and being left-handed with it (which can mess up a surprising number of things!) So I hold in my right hand and operate with my left. And ergonomically it's the best phone I ever had for the small things; the power button is right under my thumb and the fingerprint button right under my forefinger as I hold it. Much less clumsy for picking up, fingerprinting and finally turning off than my Note 5 is. I wasn't sure about the fingerprint at the back but it's a huge improvement for my hands.

Feels great in the hand, I really love how it feels to use however I gave it 4 stars only because I think the power button is a little too high on the phone.
Maybe they could have put volume on the other side and lowered the power button down so it's in a more natural place.

The bezel.

It's easy to drop because it's so slippery without a case. I use a "kickstand" ring (glue on) that really helps.
With the ring I can just move my left index finger to unlock it without using my right hand. Very handy.
Without the ring I would give it a 3. With the ring it's a 5.

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Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel XL feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
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why isnt the phone bigger? It should be, its ridiculous that phones are still so small. feels like holding a childs phone.

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feels small and light, compared to my nexus 6
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I know. Im coming from nexus 6 to.tbis feels so small. I had to look and make sure i had the xl lol. I love the way this phone feels in the hand

It feels good in the hand, (it tastes terrible though DO NOT EAT). The front pane of glass is one solid piece so there is no tactile difference between the bezel and screen. I would like a bit more edge on the glass transition between the outer aluminum and glass, though I find myself enjoying the feel of the back glass pane where it borders the aluminum body, and the finger sensor for that matter.
The finger sensor is at exactly the right place for me, the border ring around it melds with the glass well, and has just enough edge so that the transition doesn't feel too smooth, I.E. easy to locate via tactile fumbling, and the sensor itself is fast.

Do you think they will enable a single hand use option, like the s7 edge?

It feels a bit light, but that makes it easier to hold for longer periods of time.
It feels solid and well built.
I am very glad that it has a flat back and will lay flat on a table. The Nexus 6 I just retired had a curved back, which makes typing that way impossible.

Much more comfortable to hold than the 6P for me, mostly due to the rounded edges, I think. Being a little smaller doesn't hurt.

I had to laugh at this title.. ANyways am coming from a N6 I also had to make sure I had a XL. It's alot smaller, but the phone feels waaaaay more solid and premium I bet you all agree one that. The one thing I hated on the N6 was the amount of play in the buttons. Atlease in this phone they fixed the play in the buttons. I'd say I love the new feel of my google iphone.

In short unbalanced and more heavy in top ( PS the guy said no "that's what she said jokes" but inb4 "that's what he said"
No really it feels unbalanced vs the N6 and 6P for their size the N6 was by far the best balanced this Pixel XL feels like it flips over your index finger in one handed mode and for this it's more of a two handed job than even the 6P or 6 but that's just how it feels even in a grippy case it's just top heavy.
It by no means bad but if you come from a thin light balanced device the Pixel XL is a bit hefty up top.
Feels like a nexus 4 but they added some soap suds and silicone grease, after a week now it NEEDs a case it's more slippery that a N6 in water covered oil sliding down a hill.
As for general feel it's top heavy and slippery frankly its a poor ergonomic feel in had after using it for a bit, the 6P and N6 are far far better to hold ( smaller phones are far harder to keep a hold of if slippery )
These stylised chanfered edges are pretty bad on smaller devices and harks back to the old Moto X days with bar of soap designs.
As a die hard N6 guy it's just too small in its XL size it's slightly unweidly due to its Inbertween size 5” far to small 6" slightly to big the 6P was the best if both worlds but the screen jumps down are weird and frankly if your running a 6P it's totally not worth the upgrade in any way ! If your still on a N6 it's worth it for the 64bit / speed bump and faster camera if you have the cash if not the 6Pnis your go to for sure ! Pixel or nexus I'd plump for the cheaper just as capable just as fast 6P for half the price if not less.
Had the Pixel delivered FF speakers / wireless charging / proper always on display / tap2wake / 64gb minimum storage I'd say go for it but it's just under whelming over priced chomp at the apple market and is just slightly lacking hardware and software wise.
If you can put aside these quirks the Pixel is good but it's not all round king reviewers say it is.

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Do you think they will enable a single hand use option, like the s7 edge?
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You could always buy the Pixel :laugh:

It feels ok in the hand. But don't expect awesome handwarmers. They are handwarmers, but not awesome with it, lol.

Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2 XL feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

feel like my hams are going to hulk smash these uber thin phones now. its getting so thin, it leaves me feeling like i dont have a grip on it. bit slippery, another week for a case to arrive.

idk how to truly feel. Honestly...it is the cheapest flagship feeling phone overall. I have it next to an S8+ and the S8+ just feels so much nicer... as for the ergonomics of the phone...with a normal duty case, it feels like the Nexus 6 I replaced it with. slightly large and I have an average sized hand. Over all, I give it a 2.5/5, but since I cannot give it that, it is a 2/5 for me. Truly...the feel is very just 'bleh' to me.

I love the feeling of this phone. I like how hefty it is, doesn't feel like an S8 or V30 that will break on first drop.
The texture feels awesome, I thought a case was installed already when I pulled out of the box.. ?
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I moved from Shamu, I prefer this phone being slightly narrower. I don't care for the hollow sound when tapping the screen though.
Like slamming a car door, it sounds cheap.
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big issue
The phone feels nice overall but 1 thing, which is bothering me significantly.
When I hold the phone in my hand I put my pinkie (little finger) at the bottom for better support so I don't drop it.
The issue is the charging port (usb c hole) is cut so sharply that it feels like a plastic knife scratching my skin, sure you think it's no biggie but after awhile it becomes very irritating.
Am I alone on this? Has anyone else noticed?

HelpIBricked said:
The phone feels nice overall but 1 thing, which is bothering me significantly.
When I hold the phone in my hand I put my pinkie (little finger) at the bottom for better support so I don't drop it.
The issue is the charging port (usb c hole) is cut so sharply that it feels like a plastic knife scratching my skin, sure you think it's no biggie but after awhile it becomes very irritating.
Am I alone on this? Has anyone else noticed?
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I keep my pinkies to the sides of the USB port whether one handed or two. I also have a TPU case so even if my finger was in the middle, I don't notice it.
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It's as comfortable as I would expect for a phone as big as it is. Having a really hard time getting used to having to use 2 hands to do almost anything. I was going to get the smaller one but I've already experienced what kind of battery life you get from a 2700mAh battery powering a 1080p screen and I didn't want to go though that again.

Does anyone know if the texture of the back on the black version is different from the one on the black+white? It seems the black+white is more smooth and plastic feeling, while the black has a more rubbery/matte texture? Can anyone confirm this?

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Does anyone know if the texture of the back on the black version is different from the one on the black+white? It seems the black+white is more smooth and plastic feeling, while the black has a more rubbery/matte texture? Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes, I do remember this being mentioned on a youtube video. I cant recall the title though

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Yes, I do remember this being mentioned on a youtube video. I cant recall the title though
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+1 I think MKDHD. The white is less grippy.
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Yes, I do remember this being mentioned on a youtube video. I cant recall the title though
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I know MKBHD mentioned it but it's not a huge difference in feel.
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Downstairs feel as comfortable as it's cousin the V30

The phone feels comfortable with a solid build. But I have to thank the loopy case 4 providing a much more secure feel when holding and using the phone. I don't worry about dropping the phone.

I hated how chunky my 2XL felt at first, compared to the old OP5 it is quite obese feeling. After a couple days it started to feel like my old shamu and we are getting along like old friends now.

Anyone upgrading from the original Galaxy Fold?

If anyone currently owns the original Galaxy Fold, I am interested to hear about your experience regarding durability.
Assuming you've owned this device around a year, how did the screen hold up, did you have to be stupidly careful when handling it?
The Fold 2 looks like a much more capable and durable device, so if the original Fold survived well it gives me confidence in buying one and using it like any other smartphone.
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I'd wander down to the OG section, there are a couple thread that touch on durability, started one of them myself just a month or so before this one launched.

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I'd wander down to the OG section, there are a couple thread that touch on durability, started one of them myself just a month or so before this one launched.
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Yeah I did check that out. Seems that the original has turned out more durable (for most) than was originally believed.
I just watched a Youtube video from Flossy Carter, if anyone can prove the Galaxy Fold would take some everyday abuse, it would be him. So good news so far!
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I've had both
I had an original fold for about 6 months before I upgraded yesterday to the new version. I had zero issues with reliability or durability with the original phone. I was only using a d brand skin, not even a case, for most of the time I had the phone, and I found it to have no problems with the infrequent times when I dropped it. I am not very hard on phones, but I don't baby them either. The only reason I upgraded was because I was using an unlocked Att phone on Verizon and I found it impossible to get android updates. Frankly, I did not even have a problem with the size of the outside screen, as I was usually using it for quick looks at whatever. The new phone feels a little more solid, though the first version was fine as well. The hinge DOES feel more substantial, which I like. Over all it is great, but I thought the same thing about the original. If I had been able to get updates I would not have upgraded.

Just sent my old Fold back to Sammy to get the $800 promo

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Just sent my old Fold back to Sammy to get the $800 promo
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I did the trade in also, but in the UK rather than the US. Did you get shipped additional packaging and shipping label to return the original Fold?
I didn't receive the shipping label with my order, and the tiny box shipped with the Fold 2 doesn't fit the original. The FAQ states that if you can't find the shipping label or lost it, you can reprint from your order, which I can't find anywhere, so have resorted to emailing support to see if the can print another one.
Wanted to know if anyone else that traded in was missing their returns label or just me.

Took a few hours after getting the phone and then I got the label in the email. They never ship a box. I usually just put the phone only (no box or charges) in a generic box, slap the label and ship it out

melby0 said:
I had an original fold for about 6 months before I upgraded yesterday to the new version. I had zero issues with reliability or durability with the original phone. I was only using a d brand skin, not even a case, for most of the time I had the phone, and I found it to have no problems with the infrequent times when I dropped it. I am not very hard on phones, but I don't baby them either. The only reason I upgraded was because I was using an unlocked Att phone on Verizon and I found it impossible to get android updates. Frankly, I did not even have a problem with the size of the outside screen, as I was usually using it for quick looks at whatever. The new phone feels a little more solid, though the first version was fine as well. The hinge DOES feel more substantial, which I like. Over all it is great, but I thought the same thing about the original. If I had been able to get updates I would not have upgraded.
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That's good to know. It's why I originally asked the question because durability is obviously unknown on the Z Fold 2 so we can only go by how good the original one is assuming the Fold 2 is improved.
How do you find the feel of the screen compared to the original? Does it still feel plasticky? Of course there is a screen protector to consider but have read that it now feels less mushy, and not so sensitive to fingernail scratches.
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Scratches.
The inner screen feels mostly the same, as I have left the screen protector on. I never had a problem with how the screen felt on the original. The outer screen I Am enjoying more. The larger outer screen feels better to use for typing particularly. I am typing this on the outer screen using a swype keyboard and it is working perfectly as expected. One difference I have noticed is that my battery life does not seem to be as long. I used the original pretty power heavy and this one I have on optimized, but I don't think I am getting the same battery life as I did before. Not sure why.

melby0 said:
The inner screen feels mostly the same, as I have left the screen protector on. I never had a problem with how the screen felt on the original. The outer screen I Am enjoying more. The larger outer screen feels better to use for typing particularly. I am typing this on the outer screen using a swype keyboard and it is working perfectly as expected. One difference I have noticed is that my battery life does not seem to be as long. I used the original pretty power heavy and this one I have on optimized, but I don't think I am getting the same battery life as I did before. Not sure why.
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Thanks for the heads up! As much as I hate screen protectors I think I should keep the inside one intact (definitely will remove the cover screen one)
Still waiting on my phone to arrive, there's been a shortage of stock and I still don't have a delivery date yet. So excited about this phone and from what I hear I won't be disappointed.
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I just posted some comments in the "how do you clean the screen" thread so won't repeat everything here. The screen protector on the inside display is cheap and foggy. If you look at the front facing camera cutout you can see what's underneath and that looks a lot like the protective layer that everyone thought was a screen protector on the OG Fold and pulled it off and destroyed the display. Assuming what's under the screen protector is the same as the OG Fold then the display will be very durable. I had my OG Fold for eight months and the screen is as perfect today as it was when I got it. There are videos on YouTube of people taking the screen protector off on the Fold 2 and I'll join them soon. The fogginess works my nerves.
I dropped my OG Fold on wooden floors a couple of times and it was none the worse for it. The hinge was always kind of for want of a better word, crunchy. If you squeezed the phone you could feel the play in the hinge. It never affected usability and was no better or worse eight months later. The OG Fold was really a proof of concept rather than a mass production phone and if it held up as well as it did I have high hopes for the Fold 2.
Some comments after moving in the Fold 2 and using it for a few days.
The new hinge is a lot more sturdy and it staying in fixed positions on the way to open or closed allows for Flex Mode which I guess is a good thing. That is if you don't mine putting the cover display or glass back/camera glass of your $2,000 phone down on random foreign objects. It was a lot easier opening and closing the OG Fold because that's what the display was designed to do - be open or be closed. Maybe I'll fall in love with Flex Mode but I'm kind of missing the easier opening/closing.
The 4.6" cover display was really just for reading notifications and brief interactions. Typing on it was maddening. So Samsung has now filled the cover display which is a huge esthetic improvement. Typing is only moderately better because the width, while expanded, is still comically narrow. The height is clown car bizarre in use. Trying to reach the top of the cover display with one hand requires basketball player sized hands. I like the new bigger display better than the old one, even just for the improved looks, but it's still a strange format to get things done on.
I have bronze and the Fold 2 really is a gorgeous phone. It looks like jewelry with the intricate design elements and varying textures. The camera bump is much more pronounced than on the OG Fold which makes carrying it naked all the more nerve racking. The OG Fold was futuristic because it was and there was nothing to compare it to. I guess you could compare it to the Mate X but I'd never buy a foldable that had their vulnerable plastic displays on the outside of the phone. The OG Fold was an odd device and carried it's oddity with pride. The Fold 2 is a really nice phone that folds in half. It's special but not as special as the OG Fold was for its time.
Cases. I have the OEM leather case and Aramid case. Both suck for different reasons. The leather case is like wearing orthopedic shoes with a tuxedo. As balanced as the Fold 2's design is slapping the leather case on it makes it look deformed. It's a chunky case and when it's on it looks incredibly disjointed. Kind of like someone stuck an additional panel (the front display) on top of another phone as an afterthought. It does its job and protects the back of the phone well but it looks God awful. The Aramid case looks better because it's much thinner but half black and half bronze looks weird. And the kickstand bump makes the phone wobbly when you put it down and makes it easy for the phone to slide around. Olixar makes a back panel screen protector as well as a camera protector. I ordered a Dome screen protector for the front display. I think that's the way I'm going to go because I can't see with the Fold 2's design how anyone will be able to make a symmetric front and back case that doesn't look like an appendage.
In using the phone everyday it's a lot like its predecessor. It's obviously faster but s/w wise, outside of Flex Mode, there isn't a great deal of difference between the two. The inside display is much more fluid due to the higher refresh rate but what you're looking at is equal to or worse than the OG Fold because of the $.99 screen protector Samsung applied. I'm happy with the Fold 2 and it makes the OG Fold look and feel older than it is. I think the Fold 2 will wow people more that have never used a folding phone than those of us coming from the OG Fold. It sure is pretty though.

No regrets
apprentice said:
Thanks for the heads up! As much as I hate screen protectors I think I should keep the inside one intact (definitely will remove the cover screen one)
Still waiting on my phone to arrive, there's been a shortage of stock and I still don't have a delivery date yet. So excited about this phone and from what I hear I won't be disappointed.
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Yeah, I have no regrets on the upgrade. I am assuming I am getting poorer battery life is because of the 120h inner screen, but it seems a pretty dramatic drain at this point. I read the news in bed before I get up, and I am often at 90% just from the 10 minutes of reading. I am also having a little trouble with some new Samsung ui features. Particularly, when a message bubble appears on the front screen, I cannot read the message, only the place where I can reply. I have tried resizing, but I end up having to open the app, which defeats the purpose of the bubbles. It might be my fault though because I use the drupe app, and it might just not be sizing itself appropriately for the smaller cover screen. It might just be something I have to deal with, because I would not get rid of drupe. I like the app so much I feel like a cooperate shill for them every time I talk about it.

melby0 said:
Yeah, I have no regrets on the upgrade. I am assuming I am getting poorer battery life is because of the 120h inner screen, but it seems a pretty dramatic drain at this point. I read the news in bed before I get up, and I am often at 90% just from the 10 minutes of reading. I am also having a little trouble with some new Samsung ui features. Particularly, when a message bubble appears on the front screen, I cannot read the message, only the place where I can reply. I have tried resizing, but I end up having to open the app, which defeats the purpose of the bubbles. It might be my fault though because I use the drupe app, and it might just not be sizing itself appropriately for the smaller cover screen. It might just be something I have to deal with, because I would not get rid of drupe. I like the app so much I feel like a cooperate shill for them every time I talk about it.
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Yeah I think you're being brave to use an app like Drupe on such unique aspect ratios! The built in messaging app has a great bubble notification feature which I use on my Note 20, so I am guessing Samsung included the feature on the Fold 2.
Good news is my Z Fold 2 arrives tomorrow, so I am really looking forward to unboxing and trying it out.
Thanks for your input and giving me assurance regarding durability ツ
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