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Galaxy S3 owners, convince me!

Alright, I need some convincing. I want to know why I should get this phone over say, the Galaxy Nexus, iPhone 5, or the Razr Maxx HD.
I would love to hear what everyone has to say so give me your best shot.

Touchpadnoob said:
Alright, I need some convincing. I want to know why I should get this phone over say, the Galaxy Nexus, iPhone 5, or the Razr Maxx HD.
I would love to hear what everyone has to say so give me your best shot.
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Convince yourself. It's pointless for us to tell you to buy something. Go in a store and test out all the phones you're considering. You won't know what you'll be happy with till you do, trust me.

mustbepbs said:
Convince yourself. It's pointless for us to tell you to buy something. Go in a store and test out all the phones you're considering. You won't know what you'll be happy with till you do, trust me.
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this.
i can confidently say that the s3 is easily the best phone ive ever owned though

Touchpadnoob said:
Alright, I need some convincing. I want to know why I should get this phone over say, the Galaxy Nexus, iPhone 5, or the Razr Maxx HD.
I would love to hear what everyone has to say so give me your best shot.
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It all depends on what you want out of the phone, like others have said, try them out for yourself. You will just have to wait on the iPhone 5 and Razr Maxx HD.

Well IMHO, the iphone screen is still too small.
The MAXX HD isn't a bad choice but the bootloader will be locked I would think.

mustbepbs said:
Convince yourself.
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Lol.
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I can list some of the reasons that I've switched away from all Apple products and settled on the S3 and N7 for my daily drivers..
* 3.5 - 4 inch phone screens too small for my taste (love 4.8 !)
* Real multitasking in Android
* Widgets
* Superior notification system
* Standard USB charging and data connection
* Ability to copy files to/from device with regular pc file managers
* Sideload any app at will
* Can create/run my own apps created with free open source tools
* Can load any keyboards I wish (Swype, Swiftkey, etc)
* Can deal with a wide array of email attachment types
* Haptic feedback when desired
* NFC and Wi-Fi direct
* Choice of numerous high quality launchers
* Much higher level of customization in general
* More choice for many classes of app, Google doesn't block
"competing apps"
... and best of all, NO MORE ITUNES !! =)
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What's the difference between android and iPhone multitasking. Cause my gf iPhone I can hold down the main button am all the apps pop up. What makes ours more advanced? Really want to know to shut up my sheep friends.
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I need convincing that I can get superior battery life on LTE with this. Coming from a GNEX and HTC Rezound where I could only get ~1hour screen time on LTE and 2 on wifi. RAZR sucks and iPhone is apple.

tu3218 said:
What's the difference between android and iPhone multitasking. Cause my gf iPhone I can hold down the main button am all the apps pop up. What makes ours more advanced? Really want to know to shut up my sheep friends.
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On my Galaxy S3 I could be listening to music (with any music app), be logged into an irc server, connected to a Teamspeak server, logged into my pc at home via RDP, watching a video using pip, and composing a text message all at the same time. All apps would be updating and playing in real time.
The iPhone 5 can't even come close to pulling that off...
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dmeadows013 said:
I need convincing that I can get superior battery life on LTE with this. Coming from a GNEX and HTC Rezound where I could only get ~1hour screen time on LTE and 2 on wifi. RAZR sucks and iPhone is apple.
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You will get 2.5-3 hours screen time with this phone. No doubt.
Stresa said:
On my Galaxy S3 I could be listening to music (with any music app), be logged into an irc server, connected to a Teamspeak server, logged into my pc at home via RDP, watching a video using pip, and composing a text message all at the same time. All apps would be updating and playing in real time.
The iPhone 5 can't even come close to pulling that off...
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Ahhh okay. So the Iphone I assume just pauses the apps.
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tu3218 said:
Ahhh okay. So the Iphone I assume just pauses the apps.
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Not your fault for interpreting things that way from the above, but it's not exactly like that for iOS 5 multitasking:
. . .
When you press the home button, the app moves from Active to Background. Most apps usually then go from Background to Suspended in a matter of seconds. (Suspended apps remain in the device’s memory. . .
If you launch a memory-intensive app such as a game, iOS will start to purge Suspended apps from memory . . .
But iOS allows apps such as Instacast, which have time-intensive tasks that can run in the background, to ask for a reprieve. The app declares its downloading of podcasts as a “background task.” This allows Instacast an extra period of Background running, after I hit the home button, to complete its downloads.
Instacast doesn’t have all day. An app gets about ten minutes of Background running time before it is forcibly suspended by iOS. . .
Five classes of apps—audio, GPS, VOIP, Newsstand and accessory apps—and some built-in apps such as Mail may run indefinitely in the background until they complete their task.
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So, iOS 5 allows multitasking - with various boundaries and restrictions compared to Android OS, IMHO. In general usage, you'll probably tend to see more parallel tasks running in a typical Android phone, depending on how demanding or diverse the attention of a user tends to be.
How effectively iOS manages those various tasks vs Android's multitasking scheduler is a different story, though . . .
- ooofest

dmeadows013 said:
I need convincing that I can get superior battery life on LTE with this. Coming from a GNEX and HTC Rezound where I could only get ~1hour screen time on LTE and 2 on wifi. RAZR sucks and iPhone is apple.
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you had the same phones i did. the gs3 beats out any phone ive had soo far on verizon. the dinc's, tbolt, gnexus, rezound, razr. this phone is a beast and has great battery life. all we need is a true jb ota and my life will be complete.

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you had the same phones i did. the gs3 beats out any phone ive had soo far on verizon. the dinc's, tbolt, gnexus, rezound, razr. this phone is a beast and has great battery life. all we need is a true jb ota and my life will be complete.
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Yea I know I remember you from the Rez haha when we were trying to get AOSP everyone was *****ing and now that we have it half of em are just like 'meh idc...' lol

I went and played with a S3 at a store today and it was very very slow. Then in went to another store and played on one and it was lightning fast. The other one must have been loaded or something. I was very impressed with the S3. If it didn't have the theme it has, I'd consider giving up my gnex for it.
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best phone I have ever had.

bendirkss said:
I went and played with a S3 at a store today and it was very very slow. Then in went to another store and played on one and it was lightning fast. The other one must have been loaded or something. I was very impressed with the S3. If it didn't have the theme it has, I'd consider giving up my gnex for it.
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Selling my Rezound on Swappa to help pay for mine. Gonna buy it then probably sell my GNex too.

dmeadows013 said:
Selling my Rezound on Swappa to help pay for mine. Gonna buy it then probably sell my GNex too.
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I'll probably just such this up till the new Nexus. Hopefully we seen one this year
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Which one to get, Samsung Tab 2 or Nexus 7?

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Why don't you give a try to search button before posting???
It has bee discussed numerous times.and about which one to buy it completely depends on your needs.
Both are very good tablets with pros and cons.
So First tell for what purpose are you buying tablet???

Stick wit galaxy tab 2.
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Nexus 7

marius m said:
Nexus 7
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galaxy tab 2 is on sale at bestbuy, etc for 179 bucks. really good price

No-one else can answer this question except you. That means you need to do your own research.
Everyone has a different opinion - why do you value their opinion more than your own? What they consider important may not matter to you.
For example, I use my Tab when travelling so for me it is important to have plenty of storage for music, videos, films etc. Therefore the lack of an external SD card slot on the Nexus 7 is the deal breaker for me.
However, if expandable storage is not an issue for you then why would you take my advice? The Nexus 7 has better specs than the Tab 2 7.0 and reportedly runs smoother. Maybe that matters more to you than it does me.
Everything you buy is a compromise one way or another - nothing is perfect. The balance of compromises differs from person to person.
Don't be a sheep, make up your own mind. If you are simply going to follow others blindly without researching the options first then why not get an iPad mini?

I've bought the P3100 back in july, on a 2 year contract from Orange, thinking i'd use it a lot outside the home and needing the 3G. That was not the case and I almost never use the mobile data. I also tought I'd need expandable memory for games, buying a 32gb card, but I don't really need it since you can't install apps on the SD card(without rooting) and I'm not so much into media. So I ended up using it daily, for 30 min or so, surfing on the web plus evernote, mail, checking weather, stuff like this. But it's not a very confortable device for internet browsing, due to the 16:9 small display and the not-so-smooth scrolling. Putting on top of this the fact that it's a bit laggy when simply scrolling through the app drawer or the home screens (4.0.3 ICS), my first tablet is not how I want it. And I've waited Jelly Bean for ever. SO yeah, get a Nexus device.

I have tried both on some games and apps, they both perform really well. On one side GT2 7.0 is only single core processor, but can play games and apps on the same level as nexus 7, and it also have an external sd card that can hold your game data file. On the other Nexus 7 screen is more nice and clearer, and also asus ussually is fast in releasing new updates for their tab. But it's really up to you do some more research, and choose the best for your money.

jaydyan said:
I have tried both on some games and apps, they both perform really well. On one side GT2 7.0 is only single core processor, but can play games and apps on the same level as nexus 7, and it also have an external sd card that can hold your game data file. On the other Nexus 7 screen is more nice and clearer, and also asus ussually is fast in releasing new updates for their tab. But it's really up to you do some more research, and choose the best for your money.
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*Galaxy tab 2 have dual core processor

I say it all depends on what you need it for. The biggest drawback with that Nexus 7 is the lack of a mini sd slot. I was originally going to pick up a Nexus 7 but went with the Tab instead. Just being able to throw a 64 gig card on it and load it up with a bunch of comics, music, and movies, I mean that alone was enough for me. My biggest complaint about the Tab, is that, it's just not as well built as the Nexus 7 and I feel like it chugs here and there, I like touchwiz on my Galaxy s3 but not on the Tab. If you feel like you're going to download a lot of games, apps, etc. then go with the Tab, if you're only going to use it as a web browser, email, streaming movies, etc. go with the Nexus.
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Mr Anderson said:
If you are simply going to follow others blindly without researching the options first then why not get an iPad mini?
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There's nothing wrong with picking up an iPad mini. I was going to pick one up, but that's because I had invested so much money in buying apps on iOS since I own an iPad and felt it wouldn't make sense to rebuy all those apps again on Android. To each their own and yeah, I did a lot of research on the Tab2 and youtubed a lot of videos reviews :good:

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There's nothing wrong with picking up an iPad mini.
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Apologies, my tongue was firmly in my cheek and no insult was intended.
iPads have their place, and there are sectors of the market where people are served best by Apple's products. I can respect anyone who buys an iPad having first done their research and having reached a reasoned decision based on sound knowledge and logic.
However, I cannot understand those who buy blindly simply because others are doing so. The badge should not be that important (in my opinion).

leaving Android for .....iPhone...??

I might get alot of heat over this but I need help.
I really love Android but my main issues:
1) battery life - I am not even getting a full day out of my phone. 1000's of apps are great but if they suck the battery - what good are they?
2) email - Android is part of Google yet their Gmail app literally is garbage. The stock email that came with my phone is a shade better - wtf...? Yet Iphone users seem to have no problems.
I HATE Apple but I also need a phone that is dependable. And I know, it isn't going to be like my Crapberry where I could go up to 3 days on one charge but honestly, this being my first Android phone......I am starting to wonder.

If you can upgrade your phone, try something like GNote 2 or Droid Razr Maxx HD, they've got good battery backup.
Btw I don't find any flaws in the gmail app..
If you don't want to upgrade your android, then maybe try mugen power batteries, they have more mah capacity than stock ones
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I find nothing wrong with the Gmail app (granted I don't do much emailing anyway)
And maybe you should invest in an extended battery (liked NiCk.JaY mentioned)

The batteries suggested are like 80 bucks!

Idk maybe I missed it but what phone do u have?
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Get an iphone and use it for a bit. I bet you will have a bigger list of issues.
I have no problems with the Gmail app and bad battery life can be caused by lots of things that are easily fixable.
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Niners77 said:
The batteries suggested are like 80 bucks!
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But you consider getting an iPhone your money logic is flawed
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"Smells like apples in the hood"
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*Gets a torch and pike*

Iphones battery life is terrible.

I'm pretty hardcore into Android. I donate all my spare time to either supporting or developing custom Android software.
But I have to say, if you want a phone that just works right out of the box, the iPhone may be a good choice. I carry a Rezound and iPhone 4S as my two daily drivers.
The best way I would tell you to decide is that if you think you want to jailbreak the device, don't even bother with an iPhone and go ahead and upgrade to a better Android phone. The iPhone runs great if you just want something to take out of the box and be ready to go using it bone stock. If you have any thoughts of modifying things, which require jail breaking, I think you're doing away with the iPhone's big strong point.
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The problem is that I am not a heavy user - just texting back and forth to my wife everyday at work. I have even turned off getting emails during the day since I am in front of the computer - no need for them to come through on the phone.
So for what little I use it for I am a little disappointed.
I am not into jailbreaking or anything like that. I did, however, change the launcher from Go Launcher to ADW - will see if that had anything to do with battery issues. Charged last night - took off charger at 615am checked sports scores and sent 3 text msgs - battery is at 93% as of 830am.

What Android phone are you disappointed with? It's most likely the phone, not Android per se.
And if you're not a 'heavy user' and just need a phone for a phone, why get an iPhone?? Just get some dumb phone...
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try the Nexus devices (Nexus 4), stock Android and i love the Gmail and Email apps on here. you can try running CyanogenMod if youre confident in doing so, to get a feel of stock android on your S2 if you think its appealing before making any purchases. but if iPhone does everything you need and has all the apps you need, then go for it.

IINexusII said:
try the Nexus devices (Nexus 4), stock Android and i love the Gmail and Email apps on here. you can try running CyanogenMod if youre confident in doing so
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Agreed-- i got so tired of the Motorola/Verizon bloatware and waiting forever for OTAs. This is what kills Android, not the OS itself. Remedy is to go full delivered on the Nexus devices or just install Cyanogen if you don't have one (like me).
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Maybe I am just used to Crapberry which lasted almost 3 days.
Is there a launcher that is the best when it comes to better battery life? I am on my second day using ADW Ex but too soon to actually give a fair assessment as of yet.

EDIT: I see you're using a GS2. My fiancee has one, hates it. The battery is crap too. Your issue is hardware dude.
My AT&T Galaxy Note 2 lasts me 2 days and gets 5+ hours of screen time on that huge 5.5" screen. I'm sure you know, but there are a bunch of other email clients in the Play Store, maybe you'll find something better there?
I agree the iPhone is stable and reliable, but it doesn't do everything. It's boring IMO, thats why I switched over after owning four iPhones. Oh and the battery life isn't great, I wouldn't get your hopes up. You'll probably still be charging nightly.

Niners77 said:
2) email - Android is part of Google yet their Gmail app literally is garbage. The stock email that came with my phone is a shade better - wtf...? Yet Iphone users seem to have no problems.
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I have even turned off getting emails during the day since I am in front of the computer - no need for them to come through on the phone.
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So email is one of your 2 main concerns but you have it turned off all day? Why do you think the gmail app is literally garbage?
As for battery life, have you looked into extended batteries? As many people have already stated, a new battery is much cheaper than a new iphone.

I keep the sync turned off because everytime the phone synchs for new email it pulls battery. Also, Gmail has this stupid conversation view! Like come on! I cannot stand conversation view and should have a choice for the view - its Android and Gmail is part of Android! So a little frustrating.
I don't think I would ever go to Apple for anything but I think I am/was just frustrated.
I have 2 yrs left on my phone (on 3 yr contract with Telus) - maybe investing in the higher power batteries is the way to go. What should I look for in the battery so I get my money's worth and not get ripped off..?

I've went the opposite way.. I've went from an iPhone 4S to an ASUS Padfone 2 (64 GB HK version - currently running ICS as the JB OTA isn't due until end of December!).
I've had iPhones since the first one was launched and have had the original iPhone, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S.. for me there wasn't enough of a leap forward in the 5 to entice me to it and the 5S is rumoured to be coming out before H1 next year - so I had a proper look round with an open mind and had a proper play with almost every phone currently on the market and the Padfone 2 ticked all the boxes!! (I was previously thinking about getting an iPad as well!) so ended up killing two birds with one stone.
There's a bit of a learning curve having come from iOS6 - but nothing really major - it's all fairly intuitive and I can honestly say that it would take something REALLY special from Apple to interest me in going back as they're quite a bit behind on the hardware I've got now! LOL!..

I had an original iPhone then a 3g. When the 4 came our there was just nothing new or different to it and I could not sign a 2 year contract for a phone that already bored me. So I got a galaxy s captivate. There were definatley more bugs on stock than the iPhone but the openess of android kept things interesting. After a year my company bought me an iPhone and picked up the tab for my cell bill. I sold my captivate and got an I phone 4. It was a major downgrade for me in nearly every way. Personally I feel if you have owned one iPhone you have owned them all. Only thing that has changed is speed.

Note 3 Scroll Tests

I am extremely disappointed that scrolling on the Note 3 isn't "buttery smooth" as claimed by many reviewers. I have found scrolling to be janky and jittery most of the time. It completely destroys the touch metaphor. I have posted some examples on YouTube. Unfortunately my camera isn't very good and doesn't shoot at a high enough frame-rate to show just how bad the problem really is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSG9SGP-hyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3hEDJWe5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDko2cQQhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri0VVQe078

This problem exists with all android device not just note 3.
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Unfortunately i notice too, it's the thing i look first when using a new phone.

I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.

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I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.

You're comparing it with devices from other platforms. In that case, wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to android and Google in your comments instead of note3 and samsung ?
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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I agree. ios is all about a pretty experience (not they they have succeeded with ios 7). Pretty is not necessarily a bad thing but that is the prime focus for Sir Ive et al. That said, it is still a little surprising that a processor of the power of SD800 isn't always smooth!
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.

tWoBrO said:
Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites. Of course the overlay that samsung and other OEMs put on top of android doesn't help in that regard either.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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Ignore. Double post.

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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Gotta disagree here, the App Store on my iPhone 5 is horrid the first time it loads? Sometimes taking

scott.deagan said:
Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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You can read this article, has some interesting insight as to why Android is not as smooth as say iOS is. I don't own this device yet, but I've been using the HTC One which is the smoothest android experience I've had to date. It's still not as smooth as my wife's iPhone but it's approaching it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252

MohJee said:
The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites.
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I'm not confused at all, and i agree with you about the advantages of Android. I'm perfectly aware of that, that's why i bought one, and i have had many others, instead of an iOS device.
I will say it again, i have bought a Note 3 that costs about the same as an iPhone in my country. And that's because i think the Note is way better for my needs!
But this isn't a fight to see what OS is better, or what phone, i don't want to go there at all. I don't care about that. I'm just talking about a specific issue that bothers me with my phone, and that i have experience in my 4+ years experience with Android.
Every one wants more and better, i'm no different. Apparently some ppl don't care about this issue, others don't even see it, but i do and i would like it to be a little better. Don't see what the problem is here.
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.

tWoBrO said:
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
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Of course, I feel the same way exactly. I want the best of both worlds. This is the nature of all human beings. Without it, civilization itself wouldn't have existed
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I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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hagba said:
I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
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I'm not the most informed, but I believe that Java has drastically improved in speed (JIT and I think you can use JNI). Also, 2 seems to be from Munn's piece (which is inaccurate).

Longevity and lag

My contract is about to end so I'm in the market for a new phone. I currently own a iPhone 5S which I have experienced little to no problems with and is as buttery smooth and lag free as it was the day I got it. However before my iPhone 5S I had the LTE Galaxy S3 which was an absolute nightmare. Don't get me wrong I loved android and prefer t a lot more over iOS but very quickly the GS3 started to lag and I had a lot of problems with it slowing down, crashing ect and I definitely would not like another experience like that. I'm considering the OPO because of Cyanogen mod which is pretty close to stock so I'm assuming there wont be any bloatware or anything that could possibly slow my phone down in the future? Is this true? I was also considering the LG G3 but the skin over the top is really putting me off and I'm afraid of running into the same problems I had with the GS3 a few months down the line.
TL;DR How lag free and reliable is the OPO in comparison to other phones in the market?

Pyrrhus7 said:
My contract is about to end so I'm in the market for a new phone. I currently own a iPhone 5S which I have experienced little to no problems with and is as buttery smooth and lag free as it was the day I got it. However before my iPhone 5S I had the LTE Galaxy S3 which was an absolute nightmare. Don't get me wrong I loved android and prefer t a lot more over iOS but very quickly the GS3 started to lag and I had a lot of problems with it slowing down, crashing ect and I definitely would not like another experience like that. I'm considering the OPO because of Cyanogen mod which is pretty close to stock so I'm assuming there wont be any bloatware or anything that could possibly slow my phone down in the future? Is this true? I was also considering the LG G3 but the skin over the top is really putting me off and I'm afraid of running into the same problems I had with the GS3 a few months down the line.
TL;DR How lag free and reliable is the OPO in comparison to other phones in the market?
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There is a massive difference between the 2 devices especially when the RAM comes into it with the S3 having 512 or 1GB (depending on which one you have) and the OPO having 3GB and of course the processor is a hell of alot better.
You'll have no issue with lag with the OPO i personally have had no lag issues if I did I couldn't use the phone either (espeically redraws I can't stand those, ARGH!!) not to mention no touchwiz which is a big bonus.

Roxas598 said:
There is a massive difference between the 2 devices especially when the RAM comes into it with the S3 having 512 or 1GB (depending on which one you have) and the OPO having 3GB and of course the processor is a hell of alot better.
You'll have no issue with lag with the OPO i personally have had no lag issues if I did I couldn't use the phone either (espeically redraws I can't stand those, ARGH!!) not to mention no touchwiz which is a big bonus.
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The Galaxy S3 here in the US actually had 2gb of ram with the dual core Snapdragon processor (Forget which one) and every other variant varied between 1gb for the Exynos version and 2gbs for the Snapdragon version.
But, the galaxy phones did not really get better until later. I blame the Touchwiz interface being incredibly taxing on ram and CPU. Like Roxas said though, there is 3gbs of ram in the OnePlus One and a phenomenal CPU in it too so this things flies! The Snapdragon 801 is a monster. CM11S is nice, and when you get in to tweaking it gets better! Just don't do anything you're not familiar with if you want a reliable experience, like any phone.

Pyrrhus7 said:
My contract is about to end so I'm in the market for a new phone. I currently own a iPhone 5S which I have experienced little to no problems with and is as buttery smooth and lag free as it was the day I got it. However before my iPhone 5S I had the LTE Galaxy S3 which was an absolute nightmare. Don't get me wrong I loved android and prefer t a lot more over iOS but very quickly the GS3 started to lag and I had a lot of problems with it slowing down, crashing ect and I definitely would not like another experience like that. I'm considering the OPO because of Cyanogen mod which is pretty close to stock so I'm assuming there wont be any bloatware or anything that could possibly slow my phone down in the future? Is this true? I was also considering the LG G3 but the skin over the top is really putting me off and I'm afraid of running into the same problems I had with the GS3 a few months down the line.
TL;DR How lag free and reliable is the OPO in comparison to other phones in the market?
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even with the latest ROM , you will have lag just using the phone and in games. As for longevity, the USB port wont probably last 2 years. Its a $350.00 phone running a beta ROM (IMO), so you have been warned right from the start with that price.
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Roxas598 said:
There is a massive difference between the 2 devices especially when the RAM comes into it with the S3 having 512 or 1GB (depending on which one you have)
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The S3 has 2GB of RAM on the North American version btw.

This one is great super fast and no lag, longevity I can imagine this phone will get software updates since the group behind it keep more devices up to date than OEMS do.
Also the USB port is the sturdiest one I have ever used
The problem with asking this on forums are some people run crappy apps that ruin the experience. Take me co worker that bought my nexus 4, it still runs pretty good, then all of sudden "yo this phone is not working". I take a look and he has this fake greenified app installed and three sideloaded pirated movie apps install. Uninstalled them and phone is working smoothly again. Until next month
But I have no issues with response time or battery life solid phone

BrianDigital said:
This one is great super fast and no lag, longevity I can imagine this phone will get software updates since the group behind it keep more devices up to date than OEMS do.
Also the USB port is the sturdiest one I have ever used
The problem with asking this on forums are some people run crappy apps that ruin the experience. Take me co worker that bought my nexus 4, it still runs pretty good, then all of sudden "yo this phone is not working". I take a look and he has this fake greenified app installed and three sideloaded pirated movie apps install. Uninstalled them and phone is working smoothly again. Until next month
But I have no issues with response time or battery life solid phone
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pirated movies that cause problem on a phone ? are you serious ? You shouldnt give any advice on this forum if you are.

Relayers said:
even with the latest ROM , you will have lag just using the phone and in games. As for longevity, the USB port wont probably last 2 years. Its a $350.00 phone running a beta ROM (IMO), so you have been warned right from the start with that price.
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The S3 has 2GB of RAM on the North American version btw.
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ronii1123 said:
The Galaxy S3 here in the US actually had 2gb of ram with the dual core Snapdragon processor (Forget which one) and every other variant varied between 1gb for the Exynos version and 2gbs for the Snapdragon version.
But, the galaxy phones did not really get better until later. I blame the Touchwiz interface being incredibly taxing on ram and CPU. Like Roxas said though, there is 3gbs of ram in the OnePlus One and a phenomenal CPU in it too so this things flies! The Snapdragon 801 is a monster. CM11S is nice, and when you get in to tweaking it gets better! Just don't do anything you're not familiar with if you want a reliable experience, like any phone.
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Ah yes there was wasn't there, my bad on that part.

Relayers said:
pirated movies that cause problem on a phone ? are you serious ? You shouldnt give any advice on this forum if you are.
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Mod edit: talking about pirated anything on xda is not allowed

Lets keep the talk of pirating movies, or anything for that matter, off of XDA please

Relayers said:
pirated movies that cause problem on a phone ? are you serious ? You shouldnt give any advice on this forum if you are.
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He claimed some movie apps could do that, which is true. Many of these "Get free movies with this app " apps from the internet are filled with spyware and run in the background unnecessarily.
I wouldn't trust that to be on my phone.

oscarandjo said:
He claimed some movie apps could do that, which is true. Many of these "Get free movies with this app " apps from the internet are filled with spyware and run in the background unnecessarily.
I wouldn't trust that to be on my phone.
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he add apps later, in another post, wake up