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Detailed real-life comparison: HTC Desire HD vs Samsung Galaxy S I9000 vs Samsung Galaxy S Plus I9001.
Since I was unable to find a proper comparison of HTC Desire HD, Samsung i9001 Galaxy S Plus and Samsung Galaxy S i9000 anywhere at the internet, I've made my own review for other users which have a dilemma which phone should they buy. And yes, these phones are quite old, but their price is still pretty high and feaures are pretty decent even nowadays.
Unlike other reviews, this is a review with a different approach. This review is based entirely on the real-life experiences, not the benchmarks and other stuff for geeks usually seen in reviews. The specs won't be mentioned here as that's something that can be found at any mobile phone website.
So, here goes the comparison between:
- HTC Desire HD (further noted as DHD) – Official Android 2.3.5.
- Samsung Galaxy S Plus i9001 (further noted as SGS+) - Official Android 2.3.5.
- Samsung Galaxy S i9001 (further noted as SGS) - Official Android 2.3.5.
You may note that SGS and SGS+ are for most of the time mentioned together, since they share most of their internal components.
IN SHORT:
There are a lot of areas where one phone has an advantage over the other two.
If you want a good 720p HD video clip, front camera, AMOLED screen and a loud loudspeaker, avoid DHD.
If you want a camera flash, lots of RAM, good Wi-Fi range and flawless GPS, avoid SGS and SGS+ . Essentially, SGS+ is an SGS with faster processor, effectively a tad more RAM and a weaker GPU.
KEEP READING FOR A DETAILED COMPARISON
SYSTEM PERFORMANCE
Generally, all three behave well and fast if used properly.
SGS+ is generally the fastest when it comes to interface because of its superior 1.4 GHz processor but sometimes there is a noticeable lag in animations, browsing and other stuff since it doesn't have much RAM for its screen resolution (screen res. 800x480, 512 MB overall, 352 MB user accessible, average of 180 MB can get free). Also, for some reason, after pressing the lock button (or home button), the phone doesn't awake instantly, there is a 1 second gap. Also, sudden closes of apps can be experienced, and home screen reloads frequently after an exit from a heavy app due to low RAM.
SGS is the fastest when it comes to heavy graphical stuff because of its PowerVR SGX540 GPU, like live wallpapers, animations, 3D rendering etc, but sometimes there is a noticeable lag when it comes to loading heavy content in browser (like Flash), or a RAM-heavy application because effectively, SGS has a tad less RAM than SGS+ even though they are the same according to specs (screen res. 800x480, 512 MB overall, 329 MB user accessible, average of 160 MB can get free). Also, sudden closes of apps can be experienced, and home screen reloads frequently after an exit from a heavy app due to low RAM.
DHD is the most stable of the three overall, because it has a lot of RAM (screen res. 800x480, 768 MB overall, 600 MB user accessible, average of 350 MB can get free). It lags the least out of three, and it's the least buggy. SGS+ has more bugs, but SGS has the most.
BUILD QUALITY
DHD body is almost entirely made of metal, except the two covers (battery and cards covers/lids) and LED flash cover which are made of plastic with a pleasant rubber finish, so the overall quality is very good. The bad part of this is the aforementioned two lids. The cards lid at the bottom of the phone (SIM card and memory card lid) has small metal connectors for mobile network on it, which act as a connection between it and the motherboard. If you remove the lid while the phone is turned on, network signal will decrease dramatically. The same thing goes for the battery lid, it also has mettal connectors (I think it's for battery) which acts as a connection between it and motherboard. It's highly advised to proceed gentle (no need to be too gentle, though) when removing these lids as they could get wiggly with time (although if that happens, it can be fixed quite easily with no extra expenses).
SGS and SGS+ share effectively the same shell, so they are reviewed i the same paragraph. The only difference between them is that the chrome is a a tad brighter on SGS+, the Google mark at the back cover is gone on SGS+ and the dot pattern at the back cover is little different. Despite it's entirely made out of plastic, SGS and SGS+ are well built phones and far sturdier than the look might suggest. These phones can survive quite a few falls (well, not as DHD though, but it's still good) The bad thing about it is that the chrome part peels off quite easily with the use and in order to avoid that, the additional carrying pouch or some other kind of protection is necessary. Another thing that some people might mind is that the whole glossy body is a fingerprint magnet.
DISPLAY
SGS and SGS+ have the same Super AMOLED (or SAMOLED) screen, while DHD has an LCD. Both of them have their pros and cons.
Super AMOLED has a lively and a bit oversaturated (and unrealistic) colors, as well as infinitely deep blacks. People who prefer that will consider SAMOLED as a gift from the sky, since it's capable to make the most washed out image look like a beauty. However, this type of screen has a few waknesses that crawl out after quite some time of use. First, it generally shows traces of wear before an LCD. It is made of organic matters, every pixel is for itself, so every pixel 'gets older' for itself, which sometimes result in some incossintencies regarding the color shades, and a burn-in. Let's stop at a burn-in part for a bit. Burn-in only happens after about 1,5 or 2 years of usage (this can vary a lot). If someone doesn't know what burn-in is, then just Google it. In short, it is an image persistency. For example, if you try to play some full-screen game, you could be able to notice a ghost of a notification bar (because notification bar is on the screen for most of the time). In other words, if some pixels are showing the same content most of the time, it'll get burned in. In order to avoid this, try not to get the notification bar to be on the screen all time. Sunlight legibility is commendable, even though it uses weaker light than LCD, its low reflectiveness more than makes up for that. Viewing angles are incredible and there is almost no color shifting except at most extreme angles.
LCD screen of DHD has quite clean, crisp and realistic-looking colors. It doesn't posess blacks even nearly as deep as SAMOLED but it's still good enough. Viewing angles are above average. Color gradients are much more consistent than on SAMOLED. Sunlight legibility is good, not as SAMOLED, but still good since its stronger light makes up for higher reflectiveness. This kind of screen has a weakness, after quite some time of use, 1-2 green pixels closer to sides can appear, but that's still not something that could be a deal breaker.
BATTERY LIFE
Even though the DHD has the largest screen and the weakest battery here (4.3“ LCD ,1230mAh), compared to SGS (4“ Super AMOLED, 1500 mAh) and SGS+ (4“ Super AMOLED, 1650 mAh, not too noticeable difference of SGS), the average battery life of all three is about equal. The reason of that is mostly in the the screens. Even though it's mentioned that Super AMOLED display consumes less energy than an LCD , that works only if there is mostly black color on the screen for most of the time. In most other cases, Super AMOLED consumes the battery faster than an LCD, especially when the browsing is involved because of the white color. That's why the batteries of SGS and SGS+ last about the same as DHD.
TELEPHONY
All three phones had trouble-free signal reception, and overall all three are quite close. While all three are quite loud, DHD has just a tad cleaner in-call sound at than SGS and SGS+.
AUDIO
As far as loudspeakers are concerned, SGS and SGS+ have an identical loudspeaker which is miles ahead of one in DHD.
Loudspeaker of SGS and SGS+ is quite loud, clean and deep, so missing a call is highly unlikely.
On the other hand, the one in DHD is a disappointment (this is a weak spot of almost all other HTC phones as well), too high pitched and quiet, bass is literally non-existent, and It can happen that you miss a call.
When a pair of earphones is plugged in, all three devices are on par. The sound is excellent for the most of users, but if you're a demanding audiophile, you should look elsewhere.
WLAN (Wi-Fi)
All three devices are fast when they're close to the router, but if they are a bit away from the router, the differences can be clearly seen. Needless, to say, speed decreases accordingly with increase of Wi-Fi range.
Wi-Fi range is a weak spot of SGS and SGS+. SGS has just a hair better wi-fi range than SGS+, but overall, both of them are below average in that aspect.
On the other hand, DHD had no issues with Wi-Fi range, where SGS and SGS+ had only one bar, DHD had 2 bars (even 3 sometimes) with no problems. Where DHD has only 1 bar, SGS and SGS+ can't even get the signal in most of cases, even if they do get it, opening any page is almost impossible. However, DHD isn't perfect, but it's very close to it. The reason for it is the death grip when you put your finger on a certain place around the battery lid, but that shouldn't be something to be worried about since the death grip can be easily avoided. While in death grip, wi-fi signal drops by 1 or 2 bars but even at that, it's still better than on SGS ans SGS+.
GPS
DHD takes an absolute victory here. GPS lock was relatively fast and the phone was ready to go in short time frame. SGS and SGS+ have shown bad performance here.
While SGS+ is slightly faster (or less slow) at locking than SGS, both of them fared poor here. Locking the GPS is very slow on bith devices, it takes an eternity and it can be done only by driving in a vehicle for a while (while on foot, it's almost always impossible to get a lock). Good side of the coin here is, when it finally locks the GPS signal, it's quite accurate, consistent and signal doesn't get dropped.
CAMERA
In short, DHD makes better photos, SGS and SGS+ make better videos.
Camera of DHD captures an average details for an 8 Mpix and on the faraway shots (e.q. landscape) there is a bit of blurring at the left side of image, while the right side is fine. Shots with objects closer than that are better and blurr-free. DHD is also equipped with Dual-LED flash, and it quite helps out with nightshots.
SGS and SGS+ have the same camera unit, so their results are literally the same. It captures the images of 5 Mpix and it doesn't have an LED flash. Shots are solid for a 5 Mpix unit, but still wouldn't rank near the top of 5 Mpix league.
As for the video recording, SGS and SGS+ can record 720p videos of a high quality and low noise levels, with a consistent 30 fps. The only bad thing is that they don't have an autofocus of any sort in video mode. Unlike DHD, these two both have front camera too.
DHD can also record 720p videos, but the result is way worse than what SGS and SGS+ put up. The main issue here is the framerate, it greatly depends on amount of light. The camera can achieve the specified 30 fps only if there is a lot of daylight. If you move even slightly out of good light you'll notice a considerable drop in framerate, to even 12 fps at times. This can be partially fixed if ISO is set to 800, contrast to -2 and exposure to -2. LED flash works in video mode too. The only thing that goes for DHD in this comparison is the presence of autofocus in video mode.
GAMING
Desire HD excells at games that require a lot of RAM, alhtough there could be some hiccups with newest games because of old GPU and low processor clockspeed. SGS+ with the same GPU somewhat makes up for it with faster processor, although there could be some hiccups with newer games because it has relatively low RAM memory. On the other hand, SGS is a lot better than SGS+ and DHD at games that have high graphic requirements, although there could be some hiccups with newer games because it has relatively low RAM memory.
THL 5000 Review
Introduction
I was completely shocked and awed when I heard about the THL 5000. Coming from my Nexus 4, which had subpar battery life, 5000mAh seemed like a dream. 2 day battery life? That's how I want to live my life!
As mentioned above, the defining feature of this handset is its mammoth battery. However, here are the other specs below:
Key Specifications:
5.0 inch screen, 1920 x 1080 pixel display
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 850/2100MHz
MTK6592, Cortex-A7 Octa core,2.0GHz
13MP back camera + 5MP front camera
2GB RAM + 16GB ROM
Bluetooth, NFC
Dual SIM Standby
MicroSD Card Slot
Android 4.4.2
How will the 13MP camera stack up? How will the 5000mAh deal with the notoriously power hungry MTK6592 SoC? Let's see what we have.
Unboxing the THL 5000
The THL 5000 comes in a nice white box with the THL logo on the front. It had the usual contents, earphones, a microUSB cable and a charger.
Note: Instead of giving me a North American charger, they gave me a European charger with an adapter instead.
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Hardware
The THL5000 has a decidedly small footprint for a phone containing such a large battery. Its dimensions are 144.2 x 70.4 x 8.9mm. Impressively, it is only 2mm longer than the Samsung Galaxy S5 and 0.8mm thicker. Its width is 2mm less than the S5, which is even more impressive.
Its 146g weight is also well distributed within the body, making it feel good in the hand.
The design of the THL 5000 in my opinion is uninspired. It is a featureless rectangular slab with a chrome bezel surrounding it. The material surrounding the screen is bevelled downwards, somehow making the THL 5000 look even worse.
The materials used in the construction of this device is nothing special, but is not especially terrible either. It feels solid in hand and does not feel like it would bend if you really tried (unlike a certain Apple product ahem...).
The front of the device contains the proximity sensor, front facing camera and mic. The removeable back is black textured plastic and holds the speaker, 13MP camera and flash.
The volume buttons and power button are well situated heightwise on both sides of the phone, making them relatively easy to reach. However, these buttons feel flimsy and wiggle easily within the housing, and sometimes they have to be pressed correctly to for it to register. I am probably going to use an app like Gravity Screen to avoid using the power button to ensure it doesn't spoil.
Opening up the back cover, you will see the non-removeable 5000mAh battery, a MicroSD slot, and a GSM only SIM Slot and another GSM/WCDMA SIM slot.
Display
I unfortunately was shipped a THL 5000 from a later batch that had washed out colours, probably due to high levels of gamma. THL representatives have said that there is nothing they could do to fix this either. I was able to lessen it using screen filters from the app store, and while not ideal, worked out just fine. So take the display section with a grain of salt.
The screen is a 5" 1920x1080 resolution panel with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 and OGS (One Glass Solution) technology. With the screen filters, the colours on the device are a little on the cool side and absolutely do not contain the oversaturated colours (which I personally like) of the Galaxy series' AMOLED screens.
Sunlight legibility isn't bad at all, with a maximum brightness of 500nits, its not hard to use in direct sunlight.
Battery
With a 5000mAh battery, there is no doubt that this phone will have amazing battery life. Even current phones with the largest battery packs top out at around 4000mAh (Huawei Ascend Mate 2). THL touts a talk time of 47 hours, WiFi browsing of 11 hours, and 11.6 hours of video playback. Let's see how THL's numbers stack up to real life use. In addition, I will be comparing this phone's battery life compare to others such as the Galaxy S5 and Xperia Z3. GSMArena does 3 key battery tests on its phones, namely calling, web browsing and video. As I do not have the resources to do all three tests, I only performed the web browsing test and the video test (who is going to talk on their phone for 47 hours anyway?).
I set the screen to about 200nits and installed Web Reloader from the Google Play Store and used it to reload webpages over WiFi every few seconds. First, I reloaded the mobile version of the CNN home page every 10 seconds for 3 hours. Then I transitioned to www.focalprice.com and reloaded that every 30 seconds for 3 hours. Finally, I used www.gearbest.com and reloaded this page every 30 seconds for the rest of the time. The phone finally died after 10:50 of browsing. While this is indeed an impressive number, to put this into perspective, the Sony Xperia Z3 with a larger screen manages 12:11 of browsing time with just 60% battery capacity. The Galaxy S5 achieves 9:48 browsing time with 56% battery capacity.
Note: Most websites who review phones can dedicate the phone for an entire day of straight testing without using it, but since this is my only phone, I had to start this battery test at 94%, and I also had to use battery intensive apps for about 20 minutes as well. Just an FYI.
In the video playback test, the screen was set to 200nits and a standard definition video played. GSMArena also set this test up similarly, except they turned on airplane mode, I chose not to do this in order to better replicate real life, as videos are not usually watched while in airplane mode (unless in an actual airplane). The phone played back video for 12 hours and 2 minutes before dying.
As you can see, THL's claims for WiFI browsing and video playback are not far off from the mark at all. It is refreshing to see a company post real numbers of their products instead of inflating them to sell more devices.
On a more "normal" battery test, the phone was off the charger for 16 hours. During that time, I racked up 5 hours 26 minutes of screen on time, which were a mix of Clash of Clans (and 3 other clones that I also play) for about 45 minutes, an hour of web browsing, 20 minutes of miscellaneous stuff and the rest of the time on 9gag/Feedly. At the end of the day, I was left with 46% battery.
Charging the phone from 0% to 100% took about 4 and a 1/2 hours.
Very few people are going to be web browsing for 10 hours straight per day, so there is no need to keep an eye on battery life. However, it seems that the MTK6592 chipset used in this device is very power hungry and THL also has not optimized the software as well as the big name manufacturers. Hopefully an OTA update will improve battery life even further.
Software and Performance
The THL 5000 runs a stock version of Andorid 4.4.2 with a custom launcher installed and custom icons. I was most disappointed by the smoothness of the stock firmware that came with the phone. I would compare the smoothness of this device to that of the Galaxy S3 and while many wouldn't see the difference, I just moved from a Nexus device and the difference is night and day. This is due to the firmware not being optimized, and hopefully future updates will fix this. This lagginess also cannot be attributed to the MTK6592 processor, as I have played around quite a bit with an Alcatel OneTouch Idol X+, which has the exact same specifications, except a battery half the size. Daily usage of the Alcatel is very very smooth, almost on par with Nexus devices.
The first thing I did when I set up my THL 5000 was install the Google Now Launcher, which is Google's launcher which integrates Google Now into the mix. As a result, performance when swiping between home screens, opening the app drawer, and launching apps were quite laggy. However, I switched back to the stock launcher, and I have to say that I am very impressed with the fluidity and speed of the device. Swiping between home screens, opening of the app drawer and launching of apps is quick and zippy. One would not be able to tell the difference in smoothness of the THL 5000 and a Nexus device and would even say that the THL is more responsive due to shorter transitions/animations.
It does come with some bloatware, which surprisingly did not require root to get rid of, which was a nice touch.
I ran Antutu as well, and obtained a score of 31,881. This is about average for an MTK6592 device with 2GB of RAM and an FHD screen.
Connectivity
I have to admit I was apprehensive about reception of this phone since it was my first chinese phone. However, I was pleasantly surprised, as this phone actually gets better reception than my Nexus 4 here in Canada. In my basement, the Nexus 4 only gets about 2 bars of signal on 3G, while the THL 5000 gets 3-4 bars consistently. It does not have LTE, but I do get HSPA+, with speeds around 36mbps.
Calls are clear and don't drop, however, there is a strange, almost non issue with incoming calls. The phone will ring when there is an incoming call, and whether the screen is on or off, it will take almost 3/4 of a second before the screen allowing you to accept/reject the call pops up. Certainly not an issue, but it does take longer than expected.
WiFi performance is also good, as I get reception anywhere in the house. My Wireless N router is in the basement, and I get reception anywhere in the house, even on the second floor and outside. However, every few hours, WiFi will suddenly stop working. I will still be connected to the network, but I won't be able to load webpages. Stopping and restarting WiFi fixes the problem.
I was concerned with GPS performance as I had heard many reports of GPS issues such as GPS jumping, very long lock times and other issues that happened pre firmware v1.0.9. However, my phone came with v1.1.0 and I did not experience any issue at all. When data was turned on and location was set on high accuracy, I got a lock within 5 seconds. With location set on battery saving mode, I got a lock within 15-20 seconds. It also was very accurate as well, doing me a huge service when guiding me to my next interview's building.
Bluetooth and NFC are also included in this phone, and both work as expected.
Side Note: This will not work on Wind Mobile in Canada
Camera
The THL 5000 features a 13MP camera with a Sony Sensor and F2.0 aperture. It focuses quite well and takes nice photos. Below are some pictures.
As you can see, the quality of these pictures in daylight is quite good. Colour reproduction is quite accurate, and detail is not bad either. Overall, I would rate daylight pictures taken by this camera to be a little better than a Galaxy S3. The bottom two shots have HDR enabled.
Low light performance is another story. Pictures are very grainy under low light. Even my old Nexus 4 has better low light performance than this. I took a few shots in low light, and below are the shots with and without flash.
The flash on this phone, while not powerful, has the ability to wash out the subject of the picture.
In conclusion, if you're taking pictures in the daytime, expect good smartphone pictures to come out of that. If you're in a dark setting, forget it.
EDIT: Please note that after reading review, the reviewer could get quite high quality shots in low light and this is probably due to my lack of camera finesse and expertise, so please take the low light section of this review with a grain of salt.
Video quality is average as well, with the quality being a little lower than picture quality, which is to be expected.
The stock camera software has terrible performance. When you move the camera, the screen will lag behind by almost 1 second. Installing Google Camera from the app store solves this problem, but video recording at 1080p and 720p isn't supported.
The front 5MPx camera is quite good for use in Skype, Hangouts and selfies.
Verdict
Is this phone at $269.99 USD worth it? On one hand, its relatively cheap, and its 5000mAh battery should sufficiently convince any heavy smartphone user. On the other hand, one too many flaws could annoy users sufficiently to return this product.
Pros
Cheap
Massive battery. It refuses to die on you no matter how much you use it
Good specs
Good camera performance in daylight
Impressive reception on calling, texting, data
Cons
Battery life only about par with other flagships with 1/2 the battery capacity
Terrible low light camera performance
Its hard to find fault with the THL 5000 when it costs $269.99. A massive battery, fast octacore processor, FHD screen and great reception make this phone a great buy. The software experience on this phone is also fluid, responsive, and a pleasure to use. THL has also promised to continue providing OTA updates to the phone, and hopefully THL will continue quashing bugs, improving performance and decrease battery consumption.
I definitely recommend this phone to anybody looking for a cheaper device with great specs, great battery life and a fluid user experience.
If only I had read this a few days ago. I ordered one of these phones based off the massive battery and sony 13mp camera.
One thing you didn't mention in the review was GPS function. I have been hearing there are lots of problems with the MTK6592 in terms of GPS.
I did, GPS issues have been fixed
Haha, sorry, I must have skipped that paragraph. I needed a sub heading for my ultra short attention span. The GPS firmware fix is good news.
I think the battery life issues must reflect the chipset. The new 9695 is supposed to be better at power efficiency whereas the 9592 has all 8 cores running all the time. Not sure if there is any way for them to optimize the ROM. There are lots of cheaper phones with this chipset but they only have 2300-3000 batteries. They must not last long even with lower res screens.
Never had a phone that locks so fast ?
THL 5000 price
Too expensive, THL 5000 phone price is $212.99, here: http://www.pompmall.com/thl-mobile-phone.html
Hey guys,
My moto G display broke recently so I'm looking for a new phone. I am trying to decide between zenfone 2 and Mi4i.
I'm worried about the heating issues in Mi4i. Is the heating really bad? I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do play some small games when I get bored. Do you think this phone is a good buy?
I will mainly be using this phone for web browsing on 3G and making calls.
Any input is appreciated.
talk2rp said:
Hey guys,
My moto G display broke recently so I'm looking for a new phone. I am trying to decide between zenfone 2 and Mi4i.
I'm worried about the heating issues in Mi4i. Is the heating really bad? I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do play some small games when I get bored. Do you think this phone is a good buy?
I will mainly be using this phone for web browsing on 3G and making calls.
Any input is appreciated.
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Hi! Processors are getting stronger and fast day by day and all processors produces heat when in constant heavy use. If you play graphic heavy games then current generation of smartphones do heat up but this is not a big issue.
MI 4i is a good phone best in its category of smartphones. You can go ahead and purchase this little dragon it does heat up a little (every smartphone does) when you play heavy games for more than 30 mins. In general games or tasks temperature is normal. :good:
jugpapa said:
Hi! Processors are getting stronger and fast day by day and all processors produces heat when in constant heavy use. If you play graphic heavy games then current generation of smartphones do heat up but this is not a big issue.
MI 4i is a good phone best in its category of smartphones. You can go ahead and purchase this little dragon it does heat up a little (every smartphone does) when you play heavy games for more than 30 mins. In general games or tasks temperature is normal. :good:
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Do you have this phone? I understand the heating up is normal under heavy usage and gaming, but I looked at few video reviews and phone immediately heats up after 5 minutes of internet browsing. I think this is not acceptable.
There was another video comparing Mi 4i with other phones and after running a benchmark the phone heat up to 59-60 degrees. Isn't that too much for a phone?
Mi4i
I have been using mi4i for 3 days now. Actually the phone doesn't heat up much under Normal usage. I have been using WiFi, browsing and playing some online games, it gets a little warm like any other phone.
It did heat up when I was setting up the phone, that is transferring the contents from my old phone to mi4i via Bluetooth , downloading and updating apps(WiFi),charging the phone, and playing clash of clan's.
In my opinion mi4i is a better choice if you are not a hardcore mobile gamer and if you want something compact in your hands.
If you love playing high graphics games then zenfone 2 would be a better choice.
Do note, however, that xmodgames does not support Intel-based processors at the moment. So if you use this particular app, zenfone 2 won't do.
derrick28 said:
I have been using mi4i for 3 days now. Actually the phone doesn't heat up much under Normal usage. I have been using WiFi, browsing and playing some online games, it gets a little warm like any other phone.
It did heat up when I was setting up the phone, that is transferring the contents from my old phone to mi4i via Bluetooth , downloading and updating apps(WiFi),charging the phone, and playing clash of clan's.
In my opinion mi4i is a better choice if you are not a hardcore mobile gamer and if you want something compact in your hands.
If you love playing high graphics games then zenfone 2 would be a better choice.
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talk2rp said:
Hey guys,
My moto G display broke recently so I'm looking for a new phone. I am trying to decide between zenfone 2 and Mi4i.
I'm worried about the heating issues in Mi4i. Is the heating really bad? I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do play some small games when I get bored. Do you think this phone is a good buy?
I will mainly be using this phone for web browsing on 3G and making calls.
Any input is appreciated.
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I was in the same state as you are - broke my Moto G display, waiting for the zenfone 2 and thats when this device comes up... bought it on the first sale itself...
My primary reason for opting Mi4i was the compact build, I did not want the 5.5 inches that Zenfone 2 and other phones provided (though zenfone 2 launched with a 5 inch model, the specs let that one down)
Right now, I am impressed by the light weight design and slim form factor of the phone... the display is awesome, sunlight legibility works as advertised ... the battery gives me a full day backup with wifi, gps, data switched on and syncing 4 emails, whatsapp, FB...
Now to the heating issue - my Moto G and my HTC Legend heated up when used extensively, I believe it happens in all devices when used for a long time, especially when charging at the same time or doing lots of multitasking... But of course, both the SD 615 and the 810 from Qualcomm have been in the news for the heating issue...
In my personal experience, the device heated up extensively only once - right out of the box, when setting up, syncing and downloading the new version were going on at the same time... With the new update, I don't feel it has ever heated up to the extent shown in youtube videos... But then I have not played any graphics intensive games on it, my typical usage is calls, messages, browsing, bluetooth when driving, reddit, whatsapp, emails, hotspot occassionally...
jaboneros said:
Do note, however, that xmodgames does not support Intel-based processors at the moment. So if you use this particular app, zenfone 2 won't do.
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I'm not a fan on gaming in mobile phones. I like games on big screen.
jahadmajeed said:
I was in the same state as you are - broke my Moto G display, waiting for the zenfone 2 and thats when this device comes up... bought it on the first sale itself...
My primary reason for opting Mi4i was the compact build, I did not want the 5.5 inches that Zenfone 2 and other phones provided (though zenfone 2 launched with a 5 inch model, the specs let that one down)
Right now, I am impressed by the light weight design and slim form factor of the phone... the display is awesome, sunlight legibility works as advertised ... the battery gives me a full day backup with wifi, gps, data switched on and syncing 4 emails, whatsapp, FB...
Now to the heating issue - my Moto G and my HTC Legend heated up when used extensively, I believe it happens in all devices when used for a long time, especially when charging at the same time or doing lots of multitasking... But of course, both the SD 615 and the 810 from Qualcomm have been in the news for the heating issue...
In my personal experience, the device heated up extensively only once - right out of the box, when setting up, syncing and downloading the new version were going on at the same time... With the new update, I don't feel it has ever heated up to the extent shown in youtube videos... But then I have not played any graphics intensive games on it, my typical usage is calls, messages, browsing, bluetooth when driving, reddit, whatsapp, emails, hotspot occassionally...
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Thank you so much for such an informative post. Even I'm not a big fan of phablets, but due to the heating fact I was looking for alternatives and zenfone was the only one I could find to match my needs.
Thanks for all your replies guys. It really helped me decide. I'm fixed on Mi 4i now. My colleague has already placed an order for zenfone 2, so I'll wait to get my hands on it and then I'll place my order.
Nope not much heat...Not as much as Redmi1s
I have also purchased it. Haven't got it yet. But as for the heat issues, even my nexus 5 heat up when I install a new rom; every time.
talk2rp said:
Hey guys,
My moto G display broke recently so I'm looking for a new phone. I am trying to decide between zenfone 2 and Mi4i.
I'm worried about the heating issues in Mi4i. Is the heating really bad? I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do play some small games when I get bored. Do you think this phone is a good buy?
I will mainly be using this phone for web browsing on 3G and making calls.
Any input is appreciated.
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personal advice--
if u r not much into development, go for Zenfone 2. U will never regret.
heating is for real in mi4i. people may state there love for mi4i coz they have spent money, but zenfone is more value for money.
just my thought. I bought mi4i in the 1st sale. it does not even have a gorilla glass.
raviprakashji said:
personal advice--
if u r not much into development, go for Zenfone 2. U will never regret.
heating is for real in mi4i. people may state there love for mi4i coz they have spent money, but zenfone is more value for money.
just my thought. I bought mi4i in the 1st sale. it does not even have a gorilla glass.
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On the contratry, the Mi 4i has the same level of scratch protection as Gorilla Glass, only, it is not 'called' Gorilla Glass. It is a newer technology called Concore glass. It is the same protection used for OGS displays like in Mi 4 and is slimmer than Gorilla Glass and according to Corning, provides the same level of toughness. There's also a thread on Miui's website explaining the newer display technology. Most people don't see the "Gorilla glass branding" so assume it doesn't have a tough screen.
While the Zenfone 2 is a decent phone for a more stock-like android experience, the Mi 4i offers more value for money. The Zenfone 2 takes better night photos and comes with a micro SD card slot, but the Mi 4i has 4G LTE in both its sim cards, faster CPU throughput per thread, has a better camera in the day (also the HDR mode in Zenfone 2 is over-aggressive and creates visible outlines that ruins most photos), larger and newer 4.4V high density battery technology, better screen and better outdoor visibility, in an much lighter and compact build. Zenfone 2 is larger; much, much bulkier and the screen smudges easily. The camera on Zenfone 2 suffers from low dynamic range and performs worse in most lighting conditions than the (Sony) sensor in Mi 4i.
As a phone, the Mi 4i is both - better built, and priced cheaper, thus having more value for money.
talk2rp said:
Hey guys,
My moto G display broke recently so I'm looking for a new phone. I am trying to decide between zenfone 2 and Mi4i.
I'm worried about the heating issues in Mi4i. Is the heating really bad? I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do play some small games when I get bored. Do you think this phone is a good buy?
I will mainly be using this phone for web browsing on 3G and making calls.
Any input is appreciated.
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I would go with the Zenfone 2 if I were a gaming freak because of the larger screen (and extra RAM if you buy the 4GB version). The Mi 4i does heat up a little more than most other phones (owing to its thinner build and the Snapdragon 615) but not so much so that it feels uncomfortable or too hot to handle. The phone maintains a consistent warmth when running benchmark apps or demanding games for long periods of time, especially when the phone is plugged into the charger. I find it interesting that most people who buy Xiaomi phones were users of budget and mid-range phones that seldom did any CPU intensive tasks. The sudden exposure of an octa-core 1.7 GHz CPU under full load will indeed cause an uninitiated person to raise concerns with their handsets dissipating all that energy. What people call "over heating" comes staple with long term use of any processor - what matters is if the constant heat bottlenecks the CPU's performance. Thankfully, I didn't face any performance bottlenecks in the two weeks of rigorous usage of the Mi 4i.
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On the contratry, the Mi 4i has the same level of scratch protection as Gorilla Glass, only, it is not 'called' Gorilla Glass. It is a newer technology called Concore glass. It is the same protection used for OGS displays like in Mi 4 and is slimmer than Gorilla Glass and according to Corning, provides the same level of toughness. There's also a thread on Miui's website explaining the newer display technology. Most people don't see the "Gorilla glass branding" so assume it doesn't have a tough screen.
While the Zenfone 2 is a decent phone for a more stock-like android experience, the Mi 4i offers more value for money. The Zenfone 2 takes better night photos and comes with a micro SD card slot, but the Mi 4i has 4G LTE in both its sim cards, faster CPU throughput per thread, has a better camera in the day (also the HDR mode in Zenfone 2 is over-aggressive and creates visible outlines that ruins most photos), larger and newer 4.4V high density battery technology, better screen and better outdoor visibility, in an much lighter and compact build. Zenfone 2 is larger; much, much bulkier and the screen smudges easily. The camera on Zenfone 2 suffers from low dynamic range and performs worse in most lighting conditions than the (Sony) sensor in Mi 4i.
As a phone, the Mi 4i is both - better built, and priced cheaper, thus having more value for money.
I would go with the Zenfone 2 if I were a gaming freak because of the larger screen (and extra RAM if you buy the 4GB version). The Mi 4i does heat up a little more than most other phones (owing to its thinner build and the Snapdragon 615) but not so much so that it feels uncomfortable or too hot to handle. The phone maintains a consistent warmth when running benchmark apps or demanding games for long periods of time, especially when the phone is plugged into the charger. I find it interesting that most people who buy Xiaomi phones were users of budget and mid-range phones that seldom did any CPU intensive tasks. The sudden exposure of an octa-core 1.7 GHz CPU under full load will indeed cause an uninitiated person to raise concerns with their handsets dissipating all that energy. What people call "over heating" comes staple with long term use of any processor - what matters is if the constant heat bottlenecks the CPU's performance. Thankfully, I didn't face any performance bottlenecks in the two weeks of rigorous usage of the Mi 4i.
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It's very easy to show configurations on paper. With single day low use, the OGS glass got scratches and I had to immediately initiate replacement. So don't give me the specification bull****. You will know only when u use one. You can't know just by going through paid reviews and benchmark scores. Those are just the marketing strategies. The End user is the one who has to suffer.
Calm down dude. If you feel that Gorilla glass doesn't scratch, i'll let you know that it does (even Sapphire glass shows scratches upon being mishandled). I have at my disposal the Lumia 920, Moto G (both 1st and 2nd Gen), Redmi 1s, Xperia L and few other phones with varying generations of Gorilla glass - all bearing early scratches beneath their screen guards. I also managed to get the phone in the first flash sale and used it butt-naked for 7 days, no screen protector or case. All this time, i put the phone in the same jeans pocket with the stationery i take to class, and also managed to accidentally drop it flat on marble flooring. It still looks like day 1, without any scratch on the entire phone. That, I find impressive for a phone that has from your perspective, no "Gorilla glass".
It was on the 8th day that I finally got a tempered glass. The tempered glass is now beginning to show the faintest of scratches at just the right lighting angles. I'd recommend one for you too, better safe than sorry.
I've been on xda for quite some time and I don't blame you for being skeptical therefore I attached a pic of my phone in case you think I didn't speak from experience.
Hi All,
Today i got my New Mi 4i phone through flipkart below are the initial issues i found .
Heating issue
1. While charging the phone
2. While taking long calls more than 15 mins.
3. While watching videos in youtube.
4. while taking photos / video
Awaiting for xiaomi to provide update to fix this issue.
raviprakashji said:
personal advice--
if u r not much into development, go for Zenfone 2. U will never regret.
heating is for real in mi4i. people may state there love for mi4i coz they have spent money, but zenfone is more value for money.
just my thought. I bought mi4i in the 1st sale. it does not even have a gorilla glass.
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That's actually a very bad idea. If you are into developement, I wouldn't recommend any Intel based phone. Unity 3d doesn't recorgine Intel phones. You'll end up building apk and manually copying it over to your phone every time you want to test.
Kumar281 said:
Hi All,
Today i got my New Mi 4i phone through flipkart below are the initial issues i found .
Heating issue
1. While charging the phone
2. While taking long calls more than 15 mins.
3. While watching videos in youtube.
4. while taking photos / video
Awaiting for xiaomi to provide update to fix this issue.
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Thanks mate. I finally made my decision. If so many users are comaplaining,there is definitely something wrong with this phone.
Change of plan. I'll go for a cheap refurbished nexus for now. Later when there are better phones I'll think about buying.
Thanks for all your help.
PS: heating is a hardware issue and can't be fixed with software update!
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Kumar281 said:
Hi All,
Today i got my New Mi 4i phone through flipkart below are the initial issues i found .
Heating issue
1. While charging the phone
2. While taking long calls more than 15 mins.
3. While watching videos in youtube.
4. while taking photos / video
Awaiting for xiaomi to provide update to fix this issue.
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After unboxing the phone, have you updated to V6.5.3.0?
And there's a new update V6.5.4.0 available since yesterday ... hope you will comment again after updating, and let us know your experience...
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After unboxing the phone, have you updated to V6.5.3.0?
And there's a new update V6.5.4.0 available since yesterday ... hope you will comment again after updating, and let us know your experience...
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Yesterday Night i have updated to V6.5.3.0 , i will check the update for couple of days.
Today I checked , i could not see the new updates - V6.5.4.0 ? , Please confirm is it released
Kumar281 said:
Hi All,
Today i got my New Mi 4i phone through flipkart below are the initial issues i found .
Heating issue
1. While charging the phone
2. While taking long calls more than 15 mins.
3. While watching videos in youtube.
4. while taking photos / video
Awaiting for xiaomi to provide update to fix this issue.
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Try to update the device with new Update...all is solved...
Today i was measuring s21 brightness in the store and was shocked i was getting 850lux readings (from s10+ sensor) meanwhile 12 pro max was showing 780 lux. I wanted to compare two phones next to eachother but guy says they cannot take the phones away from the table. Though, super lucky, the guy himself owned an s21(this is not a samsung store in case you missed) and lets me compare them side by side. I compare and s21 is noticably dimmer, very close to my s10+. Now im confused, i got brighter readings then why?
So i took his phone to the store s21 and there was a huge brightness difference. We updated both s21's and after letting them cool down (cuz they dim when hot) the results were still same. His s21 was nowhere near store s21's brightness. His s21 gave about 500lux reading meanwhile store one gave 850.
Take the numbers with a grain of salt since the sensor is s10+ and brightness reading changes depending on if you hold the measured device diagonal or straight.
But turns out review sites arent wrong. S21s manual brightness is rated at 400 nits which explains why its so close to my s10+(310) and so far from 12 pro max.(800) Meanwhile store s21 shows 800nits manually.
So if you were to buy it, you only get 400 nits manually. I suppose its a trick to make you believe the screen is super bright but its only in the store.
By enabling video enhancher and opening up youtube, guys s21 also goes up to 800nits, but only in that youtube app and video player (maybe one more thing i forgot too) Keep that in mind if you are shopping for a s21.
Edit: (in case you are curious, store s21 showed 800nits whetever auto brightness was on or off)
Firmware.
blackhawk said:
Firmware.
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We updated both phones to latest if thats what you mean.
But i saw a "display mode"( i am from turkey so dont know exact translation) in store s21 which said stuff like " dont turn this on/off if you arent autohorized. It does stuff like reset the phone regularly" and some bunch of other stuff. It wasnt written there but i suppose this brightness boost comes from that "display mode" or "exhibition mode"
Maybe another one of tricks in the Samsung bag of marketing tricks that they are notorious for.
Operating at or near full brightness with a OLED display is never a good idea though.
You can kill them fast like this especially in direct sunlight.
It's not just the OLEDs in the display, there are thousands of mosfets in there too and very little heat sinking capacity for all of them. The brighter it is, the more heat the display needs to dissipate.
A lot of that heat is dissipated through the front of display it's self.
blackhawk said:
Maybe another one of tricks in the Samsung bag of marketing tricks that they are notorious for.
Operating at or near full brightness with a OLED display is never a good idea though.
You can kill them fast like this especially in direct sunlight.
It's not just the OLEDs in the display, there are thousands of mosfets in there too and very little heat sinking capacity for all of them. The brighter it is, the more heat the display needs to dissipate.
A lot of that heat is dissipated through the front of display it's self.
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Yea but moderation is key. Not like we will use max all the time, but being able to go max whenever we desire is a good experience. Much better than feeling like your display could do better.(know from my s10+)
I think heat isnt much of a concern either since all displays dim when phone reaches a certain temeperature, automatically.
Besides, subpixels wont be max intensity all the time when watching vids or playing games so its not that bad.
As long as you dont blast max brightness 7/24 it should be fine imo
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Yea but moderation is key. Not like we will use max all the time, but being able to go max whenever we desire is a good experience. Much better than feeling like your display could do better.(know from my s10+)
I think heat isnt much of a concern either since all displays dim when phone reaches a certain temeperature, automatically.
Besides, subpixels wont be max intensity all the time when watching vids or playing games so its not that bad.
As long as you dont blast max brightness 7/24 it should be fine imo
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High energy blue OLEDs fail first... there already been people reporting "burn in" with OLED displays.
They have a finite lifespan; the brightest stars burn the shortest.
As for thermal throttling, sometimes it works other times things get cooked.
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High energy blue OLEDs fail first... there already been people reporting "burn in" with OLED displays.
They have a finite lifespan; the brightest stars burn the shortest.
As for thermal throttling, sometimes it works other times things get cooked.
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Burn in could be a display lottery i guess. Of course oleds are very susceptible to it but i think it happening in 1-2 years is too fast unless like, someone uses it at max brightness for few hours every day with white navigation showing(very static). I guess ill have to see how my s10+ fares, so far no issues kind of a heavy user here.
Since turning it on for the first time I often notice overheating in the upper area under the cameras. It does this very often when it is empty or when I use heavy apps like Call of Duty mobile .. has anyone noticed something similar? It seems absurd to me that such a phone will overheat like this
Sorry to hear that your phone is overheating.
Except when installing the phone the first time, i did not have any problems with it heating up. I dont use have apps so can't help you with that ( most heavy app i use is prob Clash of clans haha)
Unfortunately, that is the 888. Only real solution is to decrease the settings on "heavy" games and take breaks.
I have the same issue. My sister and cousin have the phone also but neither is experiencing it. I don't play games or watch videos on the phone. I only use it for calls, messaging, and online shopping so there is no reason for it to happen. I called to get a replacement. Hopefully the new device will not have the same issue.
Oh perfect! So if I replace I resolve?
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I don't know how anybody would expect this very compact phone to not get hot with intensive tasks. It shouldn't get hot with light usage, though. Also try using Samsung browser instead of chrome if it gets hot when browsing.
I noticed mine getting awful hot the other day while using Android Auto on my car stereo with it in my pocket in my shirt, got so hot I had to take my phone out my pocket and put it in my cup holder. I noticed it getting hot also while watching Youtube videos at the house also, it wasn't in my pocket against my body though so it wasnt really that big a deal! LOL!
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Unfortunately, that is the 888. Only real solution is to decrease the settings on "heavy" games and take breaks.
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This is correct. Let's just be happy Samsung didn't put the SD888+ in the phone. The SD888 already had thermal problems. Can only imagine the SD888 being hotter from being overclocked.
Its not overheating, its getting hot. Android OS will shut down and give a warning when overheating. If your not using a case you will notice a lot more than a previous phone with a case installed. Its a CPU and GPU that creates heat. Its normal to get hot during high intensive cpu/gpu use and or when charging. It also tends to get hot when setting up for 1st time and transferring data from an old device.
JayRolla said:
Its not overheating, its getting hot. Android OS will shut down and give a warning when overheating. If your not using a case you will notice a lot more than a previous phone with a case installed. Its a CPU and GPU that creates heat. Its normal to get hot during high intensive cpu/gpu use and or when charging. It also tends to get hot when setting up for 1st time and transferring data from an old device.
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I think you may have missed the point trying to correct the wording. The 888 gets significantly hotter than even the previous 865+ performing the same tasks. The issue is that what used to be just a bit warm is now hot and one warm day will easily push that into overheating. The performance increase may not justify the difference, which is where a lot of people will have an issue.
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I think you may have missed the point trying to correct the wording. The 888 gets significantly hotter than even the previous 865+ performing the same tasks. The issue is that what used to be just a bit warm is now hot and one warm day will easily push that into overheating. The performance increase may not justify the difference, which is where a lot of people will have an issue.
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Ive been using mine in 90* weather gaming, videos, etc... and have had the same warm/hot feeling I got with my s10+. I have yet to have overheating. I didnt see anyone mention the OS shutting down due to regular use and overheating but I could be mistaken. Being that I have been overclocking PC's, phones for 20 years the heat I am getting from my Flip 3 seems pretty normal.
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Ive been using mine in 90* weather gaming, videos, etc... and have had the same warm/hot feeling I got with my s10+. I have yet to have overheating. I didnt see anyone mention the OS shutting down due to regular use and overheating but I could be mistaken. Being that I have been overclocking PC's, phones for 20 years the heat I am getting from my Flip 3 seems pretty normal.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but Android has not existed for 20 years. Anything before the G1 is irrelevant. That said, you also have to discard anything you used that wasn't Snapdragon, since Qualcomm and Mali (or others) are simply not the same thing.
Now that you are looking at a much less impressive list of past devices, you have to consider that you aren't actually overclocking and the 888 is currently capped. You also have to consider that the 888 does perform much more efficiently, so it may even seem cooler than an S10+ when doing the same basic tasks. After all, the 855 was known for getting hot and is now two generations back in terms of performance. When you notice the heat is when you run things the S10+ would struggle to handle.
The problem I was actually pointing out was comparing the 865+ and 888. The 865+ clocks higher than the 888, but the 888 runs significantly hotter. Running the same games on an 865+ and an 888 will yield higher temperature from the 888, but only marginal performance improvement. The question is what happens when you try to run the 888 at its full capabilities?
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but Android has not existed for 20 years. Anything before the G1 is irrelevant. That said, you also have to discard anything you used that wasn't Snapdragon, since Qualcomm and Mali (or others) are simply not the same thing.
Now that you are looking at a much less impressive list of past devices, you have to consider that you aren't actually overclocking and the 888 is currently capped. You also have to consider that the 888 does perform much more efficiently, so it may even seem cooler than an S10+ when doing the same basic tasks. After all, the 855 was known for getting hot and is now two generations back in terms of performance. When you notice the heat is when you run things the S10+ would struggle to handle.
The problem I was actually pointing out was comparing the 865+ and 888. The 865+ clocks higher than the 888, but the 888 runs significantly hotter. Running the same games on an 865+ and an 888 will yield higher temperature from the 888, but only marginal performance improvement. The question is what happens when you try to run the 888 at its full capabilities?
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Again its hot but NOT overheating. Anyways where I messed up in replying here is I thought I was in the Fold thread and NOT Flip. LOL. The Fold with its bigger chassis probably handles the heat a lot better. My daughter has the Flip and has not mentioned that it gets hot, but I now want to play with it.
And a side note I have been doing mobile device repair since the iphone was released and have worked on every snapdragon phone pretty much ever made.
JayRolla said:
Again its hot but NOT overheating. Anyways where I messed up in replying here is I thought I was in the Fold thread and NOT Flip. LOL. The Fold with its bigger chassis probably handles the heat a lot better. My daughter has the Flip and has not mentioned that it gets hot, but I now want to play with it.
And a side note I have been doing mobile device repair since the iphone was released and have worked on every snapdragon phone pretty much ever made.
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I never said it was overheating, either. I said it has a much higher potential to overheat and environmental temperature will have a greater impact on it.
I've also been repairing phones since long before the iPhone, so I apologize that those credentials don't have more weight.
In all honesty, this 888 is much tamer than some. Take a look at the ROG Phone 5. You can melt an igloo running YouTube with that.
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In all honesty, this 888 is much tamer than some. Take a look at the ROG Phone 5. You can melt an igloo running YouTube with that.
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Anyone had the LG G Flex 2 with the 810? That thing got hot just being on the homescreen.
The Flip3 is nowhere near that and a non-issue heat wise for me. Especially now that I have the strap case where I don't notice it at all.
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Anyone had the LG G Flex 2 with the 810? That thing got hot just being on the homescreen.
The Flip3 is nowhere near that and a non-issue heat wise for me. Especially now that I have the strap case where I don't notice it at all.
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I honestly think Samsung did some behind the scenes limitations on it. The ROG Phone 5 and Z Flip 3 are both the 888, but there is a much larger performance gap than just a few minor software optimizations.
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I honestly think Samsung did some behind the scenes limitations on it. The ROG Phone 5 and Z Flip 3 are both the 888, but there is a much larger performance gap than just a few minor software optimizations.
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Yes samsung limit big core and prime core even when gaming pubg , wild rift , mobile legend. I jist finish an hour game pubg and see the result of big core and prime core even when running demanding game. Samsung does not fully utilize big and prime core. Most of its task use small core. Big and prime deep sleep very deep. Gpu will not run over 500mhz
I have the same issue when using Android Auto with it. Overheats to the point that music starts stuttering and then AA just shuts off completely. T-Mobile is sending me a replacement but the lady at the store said her friend had the exact same issue. I don't game or do anything that would require the SD888 to go nuts.
i got mine to overheat after a long video call with usb power on a somewhat hot day, had to close camera and give it a sec to cool down.
honestly its not terrible, but it does heat up more than regular phones. during regular use its fine imo