Manual Camera Settings - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

Hi, new to the forum
Took delivery of the XZ Premium on Friday after having a LG G4 for the past two years. Everything seems great at the moment (especially the screen quality) but as a keen photographer I seem to have hit a brick wall.
It seems the phone cannot set the shutter speed any lower than 1/10 sec. I've tried other camera apps but again I've hit this same limitation.
It seems strange that Sony haven't given this phone the capability to perform longer exposure times. My previous phone (the aforementioned LG G4 was capable of upto 30 sec exposures.
Have I missed something obvious or does this phones shutter speed bottom out at 1/10?

I just got mine today and yep, max is 1s, terrible terrible, I shall be returning mine

Get a DSLR if you are a keen photographer, no phone can measure up to a DSLR.

I have several DSLR's and "bridge" cameras but sometimes it's not convenient or possible to carry one of these around on a day to day basis.
Don't get me wrong, the camera on the XZ prem is great but I do like the ability to take long exposure shots from time to time.
I doubt there's any work arounds to this issue?
MiniDemonic said:
Get a DSLR if you are a keen photographer, no phone can measure up to a DSLR.
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MiniDemonic said:
Get a DSLR if you are a keen photographer, no phone can measure up to a DSLR.
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I respectfully Disagree
When I show photos from my lg V10 some people don't believe I took it with my cellphone , and somebody told me photo has been taken with dslr and downloaded to my phone . lol .
http://i63.tinypic.com/qsupgh.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/20r3oj.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/10xc200.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/33kar9v.jpg
I was only looking into this phone because I am interested in Snapdragon 835 8 core processor and less than 50 iso settings
but minimum 1 sec shutter speed is ridiculous
This is the photo with 10 stop filter clip-on 8sec exposure 50 Iso waterfall
http://i63.tinypic.com/2useoed.jpg
Here is up close and personal butterfly
http://i68.tinypic.com/4pvaz7.jpg
Flower Closeup
http://i68.tinypic.com/25ovuop.jpg
Other Closeup
http://i66.tinypic.com/2zqaidj.jpg

I think Sony is trying to keep things simple. Realistically... how many people who own a cell phone.... ever do more than point and shoot?
Yes, there are numerous professional photographers in this day and age (LOL) but the vast majority just want to take a picture by pressing a button or touching the screen. Few care, or have any idea, about how all these camera settings even work.

jaseman said:
I think Sony is trying to keep things simple. Realistically... how many people who own a cell phone.... ever do more than point and shoot?
Yes, there are numerous professional photographers in this day and age (LOL) but the vast majority just want to take a picture by pressing a button or touching the screen. Few care, or have any idea, about how all these camera settings even work.
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You're right, but why limit this? If an average user won't use this settings then why go all this way to limit this? Other manufactures just let it be as is and everyone is happy, why not go this way?

admad said:
You're right, but why limit this? If an average user won't use this settings then why go all this way to limit this? Other manufactures just let it be as is and everyone is happy, why not go this way?
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Cuz Sony sucks and behaves more n more like Apple.
End of story.

Shutterspeed is fine for me. 1/10 isn't even an option. The lowest I can go is 1/4000s. I would like it if they add longer and shorter shutterspeeds though.

Is there anyway to avoid distortion with manual mode ? All pictures of family members are distorted,I am very angry now.

I think Sony mobile camera departmant is ruled by people who has some serious problems. I am waiting long shutter speed from Sony flagship for a long time like 10 seconds. Additionally, they dont allow user to change ISO and shutter speed at same time in manuel camera settings. This is so ridiculous I think it has no meaning. I am using Z5 for 2 years. Fortunately it allows 5 second shutter speed and ISO 40 through Camera FV5 S+ mode in full resolution, probably this is the bug of camera in Z5 and Camera FV5 using this bug as advantage By this way Xperia Z5 is the only Sony model that can take 5 second shutter speed photos. For instance this is taken with Z5, not possible to take this shot with XZ or XZp or other xperia models.
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Marcustward said:
Hi, new to the forum
Took delivery of the XZ Premium on Friday after having a LG G4 for the past two years. Everything seems great at the moment (especially the screen quality) but as a keen photographer I seem to have hit a brick wall.
It seems the phone cannot set the shutter speed any lower than 1/10 sec. I've tried other camera apps but again I've hit this same limitation.
It seems strange that Sony haven't given this phone the capability to perform longer exposure times. My previous phone (the aforementioned LG G4 was capable of upto 30 sec exposures.
Have I missed something obvious or does this phones shutter speed bottom out at 1/10?
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There are apps that allows you to "fake" long exposures, this works by shooting several images at 1 second, and then stacking them together, this allows you to get long exposure images, however it doesn't not give you a brighter image, than a 1 second image, I believe.
There is several applications, that allows you to do this, camera FV-5 is one, long exposure camera 2 is another.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.longexposure2

Increase options in xz premium camera
Hi there mates, just wondering, is there any way to increase the range of megapixel count?
As in like 2mp or 3mp options?
I was looking back on all the xperia z camera manual mode guides on youtube and noticed many adviced for lower mp counts to improve low light photography.
Looking at my xz premium now, there is only 12, 17 and 19 mp.
The camera app is not on google play store, so how do we find for new updates?
Not only that, stuff like extra secial effects?
Where do I find those?

I was thinking to switch to XZ premium from Huawei Mate 9.
Looks like better stick with Mate 9.
Leica branded cameras has more manual to mess around.

Related

Best pocket cam?

Does anyone actually feel like the the MT4g Slide can replace your point & shoot camera?
Mine has. I take lots of photos and since picking up my MT4GS I don't take the point and shoot out with me anymore.
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Bump.... anyone else? For example, I'm going on vaca to California and want to know if it is worth it to buy/bring a small camera.
My digitial camera is a bit older now, it's a kodak model I picked up from circuit city (yea, that should tell ya something if you live in the u.s.)
Even so, my digital camera is a 10 megapixel camera, and I think the ccd in it is better then the one in the phone. The HDR option on the phone makes it compare pretty closely though.
I'm not entirely sure about direct comparison of picture quality between the two yet, but comparing the stock camera app on this phone to my pocket camera - the answer is yes, it can replace my digital camera, for me.
The kodak was still an entry level camera at the time I bought it (around $150 several years ago) but it gives me more adjustment options in manual (program) mode.
Specifically: I can set my iso to 1600 and 3200 whereas the phone only goes up to 800 - and I use this at night to get better pictures in darkness.
A couple other small adjustments my digital camera offers me that the stock camera app doesn't for the phone. But really, this is the kind of nit-picking that says the next step up from the phone is a DSLR, at least for what I have.
The sweep shot option on the phone is many times better the the panoramic option offered on my digital camera, and the phone takes pictures much more quickly then the digital camera does.
The effect settings on the phone are pretty sweet, I can take the picture that way instead of adding it after the fact. Too, the phone will let me make some edits to my pictures using apps I can get (even some free ones that aren't bad.)
I am not sure of the quality being offered by current model digital cameras, but aren't they up to something like 14 megapixels now?
If you're trying to be a professional photographer, then just carrying around a phone as your camera is a joke. From the casual picture taker perspective, the phone is pretty awesome.
I suggest running around with it and snapping a whole mess of pictures where you live now. Take a day, and pretend you are a tourist in your own town. Find your local landmarks, or anything that looks cool in your town and snap pictures of it all.
(make sure to find one cool looking building, one cool looking tree, and snap some pictures of crowds and traffic)
Mess with the different modes and settings, and try to take the same picture multiple times with the different settings.
Come home and put all the pics on your computer, print a few out, and see how they look.
If you are only going to end up with 4x6 and 5x7 pictures that you print out when you're done, the camera is sufficient. If you are trying to make poster sized professional prints - get a DSLR.
From what it sounds like, though, the camera on the phone should be fine for you.
(sorry if this is a bit rambly, i'm still waiting for my coffee to finish brewing after just waking up)
That was very helpful. I don't have the phone and was considering getting it. Anyone else
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here are some pics I've taken with the MT4GS... has completely replaced my P&S cam since I bought it. quality isn't quite as good as most decent P&S cams I've used, but it's close enough that it makes sense not to haul another piece of tech around. overall, I'm impressed.. especially coming from the G2 which had a pretty lackluster camera.
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(apologies for posting massive pictures, tried to size them down a bit)
Pics look good. How would indoor/party photos look?
BUMP......
Actually indoor photos are what surprise me the most. The low lighting performance is truly quite good for a phone. The only thing is that white balance tends to be a bit slow to kick in for some reason. When indoors or in a dark setting, the image will often start out very red. Point the camera at a white wall or something and the balance will fix itself right away.
Here are some photos taken indoors and/or with low lighting, no post editing done. Photos are lower quality because I'm taking them off of facebook:
Dim Lighting
During Sunset:
This one is pretty well lit but the dynamic range worked out nicely:
I applied one of the phone's stock filters to this one, but it was done in low lighting(just one tabletop lamp on the other side of the room):
This one is in daylight obviously, but its an HDR shot that came out nicely:
BTW, the phone has an "autoenhance" feature which is enabled by default. I prefer to disable it. Basically it sharpens edges and removes noise, but imo it makes the image lose some of it's fidelity at higher zooms. I therefore prefer to turn off the feature. I enjoy doing post-work on my photos so I'd rather reduce noise in Photoshop if I need to (rarely).
Oh, and sorry for the double-post, but I will again re-emphasize turning off autoenhance unless you're taking photos in a really dark area and/or are tremendously averse to noise artifacts(which are still pretty minimal in most cases). While certainly it's no DSLR, nowhere near, it actually can replace most point and shoots and is the best phone camera you're going to find outside of the Nokia N8. Some say the Galaxy SII is just as good but I strongly disagree. Color fidelity is what matters the most to me in a portable camera(alongside decent sharpness) and this phone excels in that area imo. Besides, at the end of the day, it's the photographer that matters. Not to say you need to be a photographer, but use whatever light you have available smartly and you might be surprised with your results.
Gonna post a few more shots for fun. These are all completely unedited:
Panorama:
Hydrant:
And me:
Sorry I don't take that many pictures of people lol, but they look good and the flash does a good job of illuminating without being harsh.
Also, as a general tip, if you actually want your pictures to look better than average, you can have a little fun in photoshop or GIMP. I am unfortunately nowhere near being able to afford a DSLR at the moment, so I tend to try to compensate with some post work with image editors. I'd much rather do these images the "real" way(and keen eyes can see the artificial details), but this camera is good enough to get some nice post-editing work for artistic effect.
The following have been edited with a lens blur filters, grain addition, and/or color correction:
Me again:
Old-Camera Style Close-Up:
My Sister:
Nice Walk:
So yea, I'm by no means a "real" photographer, but I enjoy putting a bit more effort into my photos than the average person, giving them a bit of my touch that goes further than, like, instagram. Put some thought into your shots, and you'll see the MT4GS will be a powerful tool
Seriously, I love this camera.
This has all been very helpful. Has anyone tried it in a party environment or really relied on it during vacation? Have you had any truly BAD results?

Shocked at photo quality

OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
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Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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H0rn said:
Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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Sure, tried every mode available! Let me upload a similar iPhone 5 pic, hold on.
I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.
It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera is bad.
vinokirk said:
I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.
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I haven't used the camera too much but if there is any focus problems I'm guessing they can fix it that way.
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redpill2016 said:
It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera s ad.
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Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either
I agree with the poster, ive had many phones and by far the note 3 has the worst photo quality ever, im really dissapointed for a ~750 euro device to have such a bad camera. 13MP looks nice in the specs but numbers is not everything.
To me it looks like there is some kind compression on the image, maybe the firmware has some kind of compression method to keep the camera up to speed for zero shutter lag.
Hope samsung will look into this and give us an update in the camera firmware.
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
spridell said:
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Yes you are right, the bright and especialy daylight pictures are pretty nice, but when things get dark or far away they smudge out. You can see it happen in the bottom 2 pictures in that post, the last 2 are obviously lower quality than the flowers for example.
spridell said:
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!
Andrewtst said:
Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!
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Can u upload some more low level light pics?
spridell said:
Can u upload some more low level light pics?
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Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.
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Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.
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thanks for the link
What do you expect? The camera has a 1/3" sensor, a FX SLR has ~28 times the sensor area. This means that you would need 28 times the light (or time) to shoot a photo with same quality.
This is not possible because in the conditions where your photo was shot you would need a tripod and long exposure (which is not useable on moving objects) to make a photo which has comparable quality like an outdoor picture!
Anyhow, I have the N3 for one day now and I am happy with it so far, especially with the better camera!
djrm said:
Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either
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Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.
redpill2016 said:
Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.
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It isnt blur, it's the denoise that samsung is using. This is a software issue, among other things obviously. Whether or not they fix it I have no idea.
djrm said:
OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
Here is the link to the full size image, zoom in yourself and look!! CLICK ON THIS LINK FOR FULL SIZE PIC
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What's wrong is there's too many fat ugly chicks at the club.
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Until manufacturers either quit trying to outdo each other with more megapixels on the same size sensor, lower the megapixels on the same size sensor (like HTC did with the One), or increase the sensor size (such as Apple just did with the 5s), low light photos are going to have more and more noise. The smaller the pixel, the less light it captures, which results in worse low light performance.
Here is the metadata for anyone interested .. It seems like the camera shot the picture in night mode
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1652/qkly.jpg
here is a similar shot on a iphone 4s
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on....com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_36372.jpg
iphone 5
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...nthemix.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/bild1.jpg
htc one
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...bemm.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/imag1352.jpg
night club shots are hard on any phone there are too many lights comings from odd directions.

HTC U11 front (selfie) camera is awful!

Photos have no details and are slightly out of focus. Seems like the depth of field start at about 3 feet so when you take a selfie you're slightly out.
I do have makeup feature off and I cleaned the lens.
Anybody noticing the same?
ppaasseeii said:
Photos have no details and are slightly out of focus. Seems like the depth of field start at about 3 feet so when you take a selfie you're slightly out.
I do have makeup feature off and I cleaned the lens.
Anybody noticing the same?
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Hi, i had the same issue with mine so i sent it back to the store in order to get a new one . If you can do the same do it. If you cannot... Wait for a camera module availability on a parts vendor webstore then you will replace it yourself.
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Hi, i had the same issue with mine so i sent it back to the store in order to get a new one . If you can do the same do it. If you cannot... Wait for a camera module availability on a parts vendor webstore then you will replace it yourself.
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So the new one doesn't have this issue?
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So the new one doesn't have this issue?
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I did not received it yet but i hope everything will be ok.
Unlike the HTC 10, the U11's selfie camera DOES NOT have a focusing capability. The object needs to be at least 12 inches from the camera to be in focus.
Admittedly I only take the occasional selfie with my kids. It's not the greatest FF lens, but it isn't awful. The LG G6 is awful. I think the u11 is average or slightly better than average. The s8 has a nice selfie cam if you take a lot of those photos.
maybe HTC expect us to all be carrying around a Selfie Stick to when taking Selfies
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I have to disagree that it's awful, based on my (admittedly limited) experience with it so far.
Awful is maybe a little too strong of an adjective but it's definitely poor. Both my Nexus 5X and Moto G5+ take better photos.
Cueball74 said:
Unlike the HTC 10, the U11's selfie camera DOES NOT have a focusing capability. The object needs to be at least 12 inches from the camera to be in focus.
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My arm is about 18" and my face is not perfectly in focus. Also the picture is very soft/compressed even with HDR off, makeup off.
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My arm is about 18" and my face is not perfectly in focus. Also the picture is very soft/compressed even with HDR off, makeup off.
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I tried taking a pic at an 18" distance, but I'm getting sharp and focused results. HDR Auto and makeup off, at the 16MP setting. Have you tried going to Settings and Reset To Default?
I haven't got the u11 but when I tested front cam in the shop I was really impressed. I have lg g5 and front camera disappoints me all the time, I really liked the U11 front cam pictures I saw in the shop
HTC has always had issues with the Cameras for the first month, then they release an update that tends to fix everything.
UPDATE: This has nothing to do with software, since the front camera has no focus abilities. I did receive my replacement U11 and indeed the camera is less blurr, a.k.a, the focus point is closer to the camera. Not perfect though, but acceptable.
This is absolutely a software issue. Evidence of this lies in snapchat. A selfie taken in snapchat is immensely clearer, and much sharper. It seems that the default camera app on the phone has some skin smoothing effect that reduces clarity.
Update: I downloaded a third party camera app entitled "open camera". I can confirm that the overall picture is much sharper. There is, however, still a small issue with the camera not focusing at certain distances. It is a notable improvement. I don't know why HTC has this skin smoothing effect. It persists even when turning off makeup.
Yes it is ****
mooseinahoose said:
This is absolutely a software issue. Evidence of this lies in snapchat. A selfie taken in snapchat is immensely clearer, and much sharper. It seems that the default camera app on the phone has some skin smoothing effect that reduces clarity.
Update: I downloaded a third party camera app entitled "open camera". I can confirm that the overall picture is much sharper. There is, however, still a small issue with the camera not focusing at certain distances. It is a notable improvement. I don't know why HTC has this skin smoothing effect. It persists even when turning off makeup.
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I was about to post the same thing when I saw your post. I'm sure the lack of focus isn't helping, but this seems to be primarily a software issue. Pictures taken with Open Camera are significantly sharper and clearer than the HTC default app. It seems like the HTC app is overprocessing the pictures because they come out soft and blurry regardless of whether makeup is turned on or off.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Honor 7X come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Did not get much time to capture some shots with my new 7X. Here is some images that i took with 7X. All shots are from Auto mods. Nothing edited. Not get a chance to take Potrait shots. I know Potrait shot in 7X is just a joke only.. Its really sucks...
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Looking to get this for my mom, but with all the photos I've seen, they're all just... INCREDIBLY DARK...
Dual rear cameras of Huawei Honor 7X works
After seeing these photos, I can only say rear cameras with 16MP f/2.2 and 2-mp works together. Though sometimes the supported light is not enough. But most of the time, it works fabulously.
Try using the front camera in normal lighting condition and than cry in a corner because it just sucks...?
Photos are really bad in lower light conditions. The Pixel Camera port is not available for this chipset
The screen is nice but camera plain sucks
can the camera improve with an update?
earg said:
can the camera improve with an update?
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For sure but only if someone works on the camera software
Had mine few days 64GB/4GB blue and while yes it's a cosmetic upgrade over 6x I feel camera and performance isn't that much better some tweaking needed and yes low light is horrid
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Honor 7x seems to be much promising but yet I am confused if it can perform better than Mi A1. Software is the thing that can revolutionize the hardware functionality like camera.
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For sure but only if someone works on the camera software
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What if some other phone's camera app is made to use in honor 7x
I'm confused why previous comments were saying the camera sucks. I'm coming from a Galaxy S7 and wasn't expecting much but honestly this thing takes great pictures. Very detailed and crisp in the right predicaments.
carnivalrejectq said:
I'm confused why previous comments were saying the camera sucks. I'm coming from a Galaxy S7 and wasn't expecting much but honestly this thing takes great pictures. Very detailed and crisp in the right predicaments.
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I came from a Note 5 and the 7X camera blows it away hands down. I have decent low light photos as well whereas my Note 5 and wife's LG Vista was absolutely horrible.
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I came from a Note 5 and the 7X camera blows it away hands down. I have decent low light photos as well whereas my Note 5 and wife's LG Vista was absolutely horrible.
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Yeah it's still not good as the S7 but it's definitely on par with or better than the S6. What more can I ask for. I was totally not expec much out of this camera and was pleasantly surprised. I don't have the lag most people complain about except soentimes opening the camera app. Can't wait til my Oreo OTA finally comes so that's gone.
Pretty decent. This was shot with the aperture function and set to f/1
It´s a cheap phone, so I didn´t expect too much. But after the camera of my Note 4, this phone´s camera is just poor. Very poor. I´m gonna get rid of it , and get my Note 4 fixed.
I really dislike the camera, and I wish that I had read a review about it before I bought the phone. There are two problems. 1) The resulting images are WAY to contrasty. Anything in shadow is pretty much black. Outdoor shots will have a well exposed sky and very dark to black ground. If someone's face has shadow on it, they will be unrecognizable. Which brings me to the second point... 2) The camera does not remember any of your settings when you open it again, except for the flash setting. For example, you can set HDR mode, but it will always revert back to standard mode, sorry! Other manufactures have their cameras remember HDR mode. Or, you can put it in "pro" mode and wade through the menu and move the contrast slider to help the "too much contrast" problem, but the camera won't remember that if you close it and you will have to do that every time you open the application again. I'm experimenting with other camera apps, but you will lose the special features that the phone camera has like the depth of field simulation with the second lens., and you can't use it with features like the "press volume twice to wake up and take a quick picture". I'm really disappointed with it.
Have anybody tried to shoot with custom rom? Can i see sample images? I just want to make sure before i buy it

Pixel 3a with not that good camera (selfie vs redmi note 7)

Today I received my first pixel, and I was so hypped about a real google camera, but I'm kinda disapointed, here is a selfie test from pixel 3a versus my old redmi note 7 with Gcam in it
The pixel its not badd, but the 200$ and older phone seems more detailed, I dont know, but for selfie, its not a real update. Is there a modded gcam that works better than the original one?
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Ryannb43 said:
Today I received my first pixel, and I was so hypped about a real google camera, but I'm kinda disapointed, here is a selfie test from pixel 3a versus my old redmi note 7 with Gcam in it
The pixel its not badd, but the 200$ and older phone seems more detailed, I dont know, but for selfie, its not a real update. Is there a modded gcam that works better than the original one?
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Here's my two cents:
The pixel front facing camera is not it's strong suit. It's main/rear camera, however, I will put it up against *any* camera on the market today. I use it for professional photography, shoots, high school senior pics, weddings, landscapes, etc. It's simply incredible.
I rate it 9.5/10 (I'd give it a 10, but of course, there's always room for improvement.)
The front camera, I'd give a 7/10. Mine has tons of noise, especially in low light settings. Probably arising from an auto ISO that is set too high. It's also pixelated to an extent.
What I would recommend is to try a couple of other apps that I use: 1) ProCam X (paid). 2)Manual Camera DSLR (paid). 3)Cymera
Or, use cstark27's gcam PX v4.3 --- it's a powerful gcam mod thats made specifically for the pixel phone. This camera allows you to fine tune at a level that you'll not ever find on the app store. If Google camera is a 9/10.. this version is a 12!!
Good luck. Let us know how it goes!
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Or, use cstark27's gcam PX v4.3 --- it's a powerful gcam mod thats made specifically for the pixel phone. This camera allows you to fine tune at a level that you'll not ever find on the app store. If Google camera is a 9/10.. this version is a 12!!
Good luck. Let us know how it goes!
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Can you share your xml config file for cstark27's gcam PX v4.3 GCAM?
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Or, use cstark27's gcam PX v4.3
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Hi, i'd like the xml config file for the PX too, if you have one. There are so many parameters in there, it would be nice to have a setting from someone with experience in photography.
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Can you share your xml config file for cstark27's gcam PX v4.3 GCAM?
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Tomar777 said:
Hi, i'd like the xml config file for the PX too, if you have one. There are so many parameters in there, it would be nice to have a setting from someone with experience in photography.
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The beauty of the PX camera is that it's pretty much plug and play. Without a single change in the lib patcher, it'll capture some amazing shots. This is because it's tuned for the pixel phone out of the box.
The only settings that I've tinkered with are the darken sky and noise.
But unfortunately, my pixel 3a bit the dust a few days ago. Water damage from sweat! Can you believe that sh!t?? I had a case on it, and was talking for over an hour while hiking. The sweat built up inside the case, and the phone began experiencing phantom touches all over the screen. I immediately powered it down. Placed in rice for 48 hours. Blew out with a hairdryer. Powered back on, and had an inoperable screen with rapid phantom touches. Within 5 minutes the screen started glitching out. I could no longer power it down. Nothing worked. And 30 minutes later it went black. Never has worked since.
So it looks like I have a dead Pixel 3a for sell lol. (Don't confuse this for an ad! It's a joke).
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Without a single change in the lib patcher, it'll capture some amazing shots. This is because it's tuned for the pixel phone out of the box.
The only settings that I've tinkered with are the darken sky and noise.
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So you say quality is better than stock google camera out of the box? i think i will give it a try,thanks.
I have no root or magisk but i think this is only needed for the longer shutter nightshots, right?
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But unfortunately, my pixel 3a bit the dust a few days ago.Water damage from sweat!
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Sorry about that mate... Unbelievable ... Ok cheap phone, no ip rating, but sucking water like a sponge...
Good to know so i dont buy it some beer by accident...
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So you say quality is better than stock google camera out of the box? i think i will give it a try,thanks.
I have no root or magisk but i think this is only needed for the longer shutter nightshots, right?
Sorry about that mate... Unbelievable ... Ok cheap phone, no ip rating, but sucking water like a sponge...
Good to know so i dont buy it some beer by accident...
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I can't say with absolute certainty that it's "better" than the stock google camera. What I do know for certain though is that the ability to change and tweak multiple settings, creates a much better environment and gives you the potential to create better shots.
I have three different gcam versions on my phone. I use NGC's build, cstarks 4.5, and GreatnessBuild.
I have drastically different settings for each. NGC is tweaked for Portrait Style photos. Greatness is for high quality HDR shots. And CStark is for general use, but especially for astrophotography.
But let me be clear, I'm not saying that these versions are better for the uses that I use them for. I simply needed three versions, so that I could optimize them for specific uses.
I will say that the cstark 4.3 and 4.5, is absolutely without a doubt the best night sight and astrophotography version I have ever used. I highly recommend it.
But again, as far as any of these versions taking better shots out of the box as compared to the standard factory google camera.. I'm not so sure that they are. The fact is, the pixel 3a takes the best shots I've ever seen. I don't know what you could improve about it. The colors are perfect. Lightning is the best in the game. Fine Detail holds fast at up to 6-7x, and is fairly useable at up to 15-20x. (Another benefit of using some of these custom gcam builds is that it increases maximum zoom past the 7x factory preset. In fact, one goes up to 150x. I've personally taken ultra-long range shots at 30-40x and had them capable of making out exactly what I was looking at.)
I hope this info helps.

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