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I picked up my tablet the other day to find a three centimetre gouge across the middle of the screen. I had left it in its protective case out of all harm's way and am mystified as to how so-called fortified glass can scratch. This afternoon I've found two more similar sized scratches. I'm absolutely livid that a brand new device can scratch so easily (it's as if my fingertips are causing it to scratch, it's simply incredible)
Can anyone explain how exactly glass can scratch like this with no contact other than a user's fingers? I feel like chucking it in the bin as at this rate I won't be able to see the screen in a week Is it possible that there are tiny, invisible grains of sand on the screen and rubbing these is causing the gouges?
To anyone else who's bought or is planning on buying an A510, do yourselves a favour and get a screen protector.
I'd recommend a screen protector on every device you use. Once bitten, twice shy :good:
Regardless of the marketing trash-talk, it is glass. Gorilla and other 'special' glasses do have a somewhat better resistance to scrapes and scratches than regular mineral glass but to be honest, Gorilla glass' best selling point is its lateral strength not its abrasion resistance, and even this isn't spectacular. In fact, most people tend to buy into the marketing and work Gorilla glass a little harder as they (rightly) expect more durability, then end up sorely disappointed.
I'd check the felt/lining of your protective case carefully for sand, tiny rocks, stray bits of plastic, wire poking through etc. Run over it completely with a piece of masking/packing tape on your fingers to remove strays. Then grab a screenie ASAP to prevent any more nasties
Sorry about your experience mate. I know it's heart-breaking.
welcome to the club. i too though they would be a bit more resistant to scratches, but i discovered a couple faint scratches too, then i promptly went looking for a screen protector.
murphys law though, a screen protector never gets scratched, and only annoys you.
Thanks for the warning OP. I was lucky that I didn't get to scratch my tab in my 2 weeks of "unprotected" use. Then again, I restrained myself from playing screen swiping games such as Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, Shadowgun, or even Dead Trigger. I only contained my self in Asphalt 6 as it mainly uses accelerometer controls.
Still, sorry to hear about your screen, and I hope you get to find a screenguard ASAP.
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Thanks for the warning OP. I was lucky that I didn't get to scratch my tab in my 2 weeks of "unprotected" use. Then again, I restrained myself from playing screen swiping games such as Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, Shadowgun, or even Dead Trigger. I only contained my self in Asphalt 6 as it mainly uses accelerometer controls.
Still, sorry to hear about your screen, and I hope you get to find a screenguard ASAP.
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I had an A500 for over a year. No screen protector and when I sold it the glass was pristine - no marks visible with magnification and good lighting. All it takes is a tiny piece of sand to cause a scratch.
I have a question for the guys who started using screen protectors? How is it visually? Does the screen look worse? Is the sensitivity impacted a lot? How does it feel to the swipes?
starfcker69 said:
I had an A500 for over a year. No screen protector and when I sold it the glass was pristine - no marks visible with magnification and good lighting. All it takes is a tiny piece of sand to cause a scratch.
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Me too. I'm the owner of an A701, I've had it for 6 months now. No scratch, I used no screen protector, but a case I did use. I guess it's down to luck sometimes. Now that you made me think of it, I'm getting a screen protector soon
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I have a question for the guys who started using screen protectors? How is it visually? Does the screen look worse? Is the sensitivity impacted a lot? How does it feel to the swipes?
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I have used a screen protector and a case since day one, so can't say if is is worse or not. I can tell you that the sensitivity is ok. I haited it at first because the a700 is less sensitive than the a500 I was use to but it seems to have gotten better with use.
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
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Normally its supposed to be decently strong. However, due to the design of the phone and the way the glass curves around the edges, it isn't uncommon for the point of impact to be directly on the glass. This creates a vulnerability for the device and is why you see so many broken S3s. This phone requires a case.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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I think two inch fall will cause no damage don't you think? Unless you meant two feet.
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I have a uag case, too risky not to. I dropped mine from my mouth into the floor at the gas station. My only concern was getting it sanitized so I didn't get any germs.
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The problem with Gorilla Glass is the corners. From my experiences anyway. A short drop right on the corner completely wrecked my screen once. But I think two inches is quite an exaggeration. Had to be at least 2ft. Maybe a foot.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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I find it hard to believe that you dropped your S3 a couple of feet, from a car and onto the concrete and didn't at least get a scuff mark?
Unless you drive hot wheels and your concrete is made of grass!
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
iTzAmazed
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That must be some drop. My screen shattered but it was also 10 degrees outside.
I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
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Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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faehsemc said:
Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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I think the screen protector is pretty strong. I look at it as a thin plastic/rubbery barrier between the glass and any sharp objects that might impact the glass. I have never broken or cracked a screen myself and had some pretty good drops/punts when trying to catch with foot lol.
Scratchproof not crashproof
GG protects against scratches, that's about it. I don't believe its any more shatter resistant than other glass. I use a bumper case, which protects the edges but leaves the back largely uncovered. Best compromise I could find between protection and not adding bulk. I actually prefer it to uncovered because I always found that the GS3 was kind of slick and easy to drop without a case of any kind.
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Mine screen got scratched pretty soon after I purchased it. I was pretty disappointed. Ended up getting a ZAG and it's held up nicely.
My screen scratched from my finger nail. My wife's screen is all scratched to hell. Yet she does nothing different than she did with her Fascinate with gg1. I think the coating on gg2 much softer.
I don't like it.
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rhamorsky said:
droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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700 phone and you didn't get insurance
I dont have insurance either but I do have one of those ebay TPU cases, seems to protect it from drops just fine
my friend's s3 hit a hardwood floor with the corner of his phone and a giant crack just appeared across his his screen
Here is a picture:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37829485#post37829485
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It actually fell out of my pocket (pants pocket - lower cargo pocket so about knee height) as I was getting it out.
Thing is, this was new years eve, and it had been sitting in my car for a number of hours. It landed on the edge of a concrete walkway, so it was uneven pressure when it hit.
And being as there was snow on the ground, it was really cold - the phone being in my car (off by the way) for those hours meant it was just as cold (and brittle) when it hit.
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There are two things on the screen in that picture - my customary piece of electrical tape over the front facing camera, and a screen protector.
The screen protector is why it's still usable. Without it, all the pieces of screen would have fallen out. The only thing that is broken, is the gorilla glass part of the screen.
It sucks trying to work through all the cracks and breakage, but because the screen protector keeps it all there and flat I can work through all that mess.
I bought another 32 gig model, so it's not the s3 I use day to day, but it does still have its role in my division of the android army.
I always use screen protectors, I don't care what claims are made about the screen. With it you have a chance to still use it in a worst case like this. Without it, this device would be relatively useless.
I'll eventually get around to buying another screen for it, but the screen protector held it together long enough for me to get another one, and now it's not such a priority on my list. Someday.
Here is a link with some pretty interesting info from Corning regarding Gorilla Glass, scratching, breaking, etc., including Gorilla Glass 3:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Corn...-Glass-3-is-not-like-most-other-glass_id38494
Hi all,
I don't really want to use the screen protector and I thought I'd ask the question about the glass that the screen is made of.
I understand that it is not Gorilla Glass, and that it does not have the plastic 'shatter protection' layer on it - so how scratch resistant is it if I don't use the protector that came with the phone?
There doesn't seem to be a test online yet, and not much being said about this specific. And no, I don't want to try it out on my phone and report back!!
What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
Thanks guys.
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Screens do not scratch themselves... Just saying.
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Wow - this guy's phone must be screwed then:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/See-...with-a-real-knife-on-a-Sony-Xperia-Z3_id61723
Although perhaps the screen only gets scratched if you *don't* use a sharp object?
Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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You could try a tempered glass screen protector i never had that problem with them. and they feel better then plastic screen protectors.
I'd agree with the tempered glass protectors, I haven't gotten dust under one yet, and if you do, just take it off, get the dust off, and re apply. They're much much better than any normal protector and a lot lot easier to apply and re-position if you get it wrong.
Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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I might have to give that a go; just tried putting on 5 plastic protectors but they all failed my zero-dust policy!
Do not overestimate the strength of the screen. It scratches incredibly easily. You'd best keep it safe. Many screen protectors are almost 100% transparent nowadays anyway.
The screen on the front of my Z3 has been fine without a screen protector but the back got a scratch from merely sliding across a table a few centimeters. Not very noticeable but makes me wonder if the front and back are different types of glass?
Having never gotten a scratch on any of my previous phones, personally I think the Z3 glass is slightly on the soft side as I've already got a few tiny scratches on it, which is surprising.
I think it's time to invest in a Tempered Glass screen protector, PET film feels like crap.
Ummm...
Well, I'm pretty sure that in most of cases that won't happen, but...
https://www.google.com/search?q=self+crack+screen
Just quoting...
I have to agree with the glass being very soft, don't understand how I've gotten these scratches on the front and back. Been super careful and didn't have anything in my pockets. Have 2 nice ones on the front and a couple on the back from putting it in and taking it out of my empty pockets.
How easy is the glass to replace on these phones btw, I think the back is very easy but anyone know about the front? Can the glass be replaced without getting a whole new screen and digitizer?
Screen protectors are a MUST!
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What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Well I wouldn't say a must... Quality varies per each batch of glass for their phones. Remember Sony uses their own screen glass technology so if you have a big scratch and don't know why its a probable quality control issue. I've had my Z3 for about 3 months now naked both sides. Not even a micro scratch I could see on the screen and that goes for my Z3 Tablet Compact too. You should be able to keep this phone naked if you be careful (duh) like not putting you phone with sharp objects like keys and maybe cleaning out your pockets once in a while... If a freak accident happens well those always suck but there's no way to stop that other than insuring your phone. Its probably the reason HTC's "Uh-Oh!" service has been getting the talk lately.
I believe on Sony's Z3 Compact forum it was mentioned that they use either GG3 or Dragontrail X, I'm guessing same for the Z3 you may get one or the other though GG3 is slightly more scratch resistant according to tests.
I used some Decal Skin covers which looked good but eventually started to peel off so i removed them and my Z3 was "naked" for about 10 days until the tempered screen and back protector arrived. In that time I have a huge mysterious scratch on the back on the device and also a smaller one! I could not believe it i actually thought it was a hair that was stuck to it, this big long windy scratch....
The weird thing is i haven't really left the house through studying for exams..... very strange.
Its also incredibly slippy "naked" so that's another consideration you need to make.
I would definately go for the tempered glass, i got mine for £4 from Amazon (front and back) and they're awesome, it also makes the screen kinda "jump out" and colours look great.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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In your case, I don't think it's a scratch but a screen crack! Take a look closer under direct sunlight to be fixed
There is still no drop test available for this device. Have any one of you dropped the phone to the ground yet ?
Important to know if you used screen protector or not.
I have removed the screen protector, to get a better image. I did drop my phone to the floor, it did glide from the chair straight down with the "screen" down From about half meter (chair level). Luckily.. not a single scratch on the phone.. I know half meter is not impressive.
blackinfinity said:
There is still no drop test available for this device. Have any one of you dropped the phone to the ground yet ?
Important to know if you used screen protector or not.
I have removed the screen protector, to get a better image. I did drop my phone to the floor, it did glide from the chair straight down with the "screen" down From about half meter (chair level). Luckily.. not a single scratch on the phone.. I know half meter is not impressive.
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Ive dropped itfew times but only on carpet
It is pretty solid phone
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Ive dropped itfew times but only on carpet
It is pretty solid phone
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on the carpet
Well.. the hardness of the material is of high importance.. Concrete floor..is the worst.
However I refuse to buy any flipcover for this device, since the thinness of the phone is important
if you are going to use a big phone like this...
Glass screen protectors seem not be a choice either, since it seem most people have problems to apply them properly due to the surface of the phone is not 100% straight.
Dropped mine 2 times. First time in the snow on the ground and second time on the road. Has some little scratches on aluminium case and one scratch on white part next to lcd screen. Has tempered glass on it.
All the times I have dropped my phones the root cause have been "sleep deprivation" , I know I should be extra careful those days at work when I have not sleeped enough hours, if I have slept only 4 hours in the night I am more likely to drop my phone.. My last G2 did surrive 3 months I hope my m7 will surrive longer. in the spring I hope there is some phones on the market that want me to upgrade, maybe the LG G4 ?
I am little bit worried about the second hand value of the M7. in Sweden there seem to be no explosion of "popularity" of the phone, it was more in the first month of the launch but now it seem less.
I am stubborn to not use any flipcover on this device. Since The big size of the phone makes the extra thickness the phone not enjoyable to handle and hold in hand... Using Glass screen protectors seem not work good with M7 since it is hard to apply because the screen is not 100% straight.
Made a huge drop on the floor today luckily not scratches and the glass did not crack either I was very worried.. So it looks durability is not bad so far.
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Well.. the hardness of the material is of high importance.. Concrete floor..is the worst.
However I refuse to buy any flipcover for this device, since the thinness of the phone is important
if you are going to use a big phone like this...
Glass screen protectors seem not be a choice either, since it seem most people have problems to apply them properly due to the surface of the phone is not 100% straight.
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I with Glass screen protectors by cost of HK$69 without any problem , please dont believe not 100% straight issue.
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I have "drop tested" my phone by accident twice already haha ... so far 0 scratches on it! maybe i was really REALLY lucky or its super durable phone! I have dropped my phone the first time from 1 meter on a wooden floor, and the second time from half a meter on the same wooden floor and has nothing, screen is perfect, no scratches on the edges, just nothing! I was amazed that it has nothing but its a fact for me
Got the Nillkin glass on it...99% straight, just the bottow right corner as a 1% of not perfectly strightness (not visible if glass not applied)...so for me Nillkin glass = 100% good choice
After 6 months finally I did drop the phone on stone floor, it did result in a quite big crack, but not too vissible, but yet big.
I did quickly order a glass protector.. to make sure the crack does not grow bigger.. I also have hopes that the glass protector will make the crack on the glass even less visible..
I did not have time to look thru which is the best glass protector, since I was in a hurry to get one to prevent the crack from getting bigger .
I bought this one https://www.mytrendyphone.se/shop/huawei-ascend-mate7-142979p.html
I hope it is one of the better ones... The glass is from Japan.
With this say, I can tell you, that the Mate 7 have surrived many big drops, if your phone will surrive will depend on luck but also mostly of the surface material, wood floor is no problem at all for mate 7 you can drop it many many times on wood floor, I have done that.
But on stone floor the percentage of several of the glass is a lot less! Then you really need to have the luck on your side.
I still consider Mate 7 onne of the more durable phones, how it compares with Note 4 would be interesting..
I think Samsung Edge series though are in a class in its own, from what I understand they do not use glass but plastic ?
I never dropped it and I never use cases
For me this phone is excellent!
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Ok, So Hey guys that know me from years past. Figured I'd pass something on.
The LG V10 Glass seems to be very acceptable to low level shock. One of the things I reviewed constantly before buying was how durable the phone was. Throwing it and all, with the glass being unharmed.
Well I have dropped my V10 in the rain, and left little scuff marks on the plastic and even chips on the camera ring, but never any damage to the screen. Not even a scratch.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
The other night I was sitting in a chair on my porch and the phone fell out of my pocket. So what is that?? Maybe a 1/2 foot drop to the ground. and it cracked my screen with spider web cracks going in 4 directions from the crack.
I am really OCD about damage to a phone, and have in 8 yrs, never cracked a screen. Usually I have some sort of case, but as the V10 was supposed to not need one, and because of the fingerprint scanner issue, I never got one. Now i'm deciding rather to fix the screen or just get tempered glass and deal with the crack since the phone still functions perfectly.
What do you guys think?
Strange that I read everyone say they drop their phones because I dropped mines multiple times on multiple surfaces. I wear suits at work and put my phone in the chest pocket area and sometimes I miss and the phone never broke. No case no screen protector no nothing. You don't have insurance?
The variables of the angle of the drop and the point of impact make being OCD about screen damage tiresome.
Put ballistic glass on your phones and forget about it ...
It's cheap insurance.