Disadvantages of unlocking bootloader? - Sony Xperia XZs Questions & Answers

i really want to root my phone, but i saw some cases where the camera stopped working etc. and ofcourse the (permanent?) removal of the waranty.

You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.

FartyParty said:
You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.
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You said camera was fixed? My camera is after twrp and magisk ****ed, and im not really happy with this ?

Why what's wrong with it?

HellFish23 said:
You said camera was fixed? My camera is after twrp and magisk ****ed, and im not really happy with this
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Are you getting green images? You need to flash this boot.img then TWRP and then Magisk .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xzs/development/kernel-7-1-1-xperia-xzs-t3607488

FartyParty said:
You lose the DRM keys and since there's no Marshmallow fw for this phone since it came with Nougat you can't downgrade to save them but unless you plan on going root-less this won't be that big of a deal.
So if you plan on having root forever no worries.
When you lose the DRM keys you lose some quality in the camera in low-light conditions.
For me root heavily outweighs the camera. I don't buy Sony phones for the camera, as long as they are working I'm fine with losing low-light quality to get root.
The camera issue got fixed so don't worry about that.
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FartyParty said:
Are you getting green images? You need to flash this boot.img then TWRP and then Magisk .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xzs/development/kernel-7-1-1-xperia-xzs-t3607488
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The latest build in my region is .191 and this kernel is for 235... I assume it won't work? Thanks for the help

HellFish23 said:
The latest build in my region is .191 and this kernel is for 235... I assume it won't work? Thanks for the help
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No it will bootloop. I would just flash .235 anyway. Thats what I did. It doesn't matter it's another region.

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Cm 12 Official On Z3

Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
LeonidasTurk said:
Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
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Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
ondrejvaroscak said:
Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
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Can you give me a link for similar posts?I can't find my question.
No, they don't work, for now
I suggest you to wait some time, maybe they will add them when there will be a stable version.
CM12 / DRM
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
ondrejvaroscak said:
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
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I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
LeonidasTurk said:
I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
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Not really as it is way to early. Seems everybody concentrates on L.
What's "L"?
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gnormal said:
What's "L"?
Sent from my D6653 using XDA Free mobile app
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Lollipop
CM12 is L ...
Don't count on them being able to restore lost drm function. I already jumped ship on sony. The unlock was worth it to me since I came from a nexus. Only issue I really have so far is a battery issue I think might pertain to only a few "testers". Also, camera was never great to me... I went n5 > iPhone 6 (just two weeks) > z3. If anything I'll pick up the iPhone 6 again and use it as a weekend phone if I really start kicking myself over the camera.

Buying Z5 - Bootloader Concerns

Hi everyone. I finally decided to buy a new phone after ages (I have Xperia V )
My definite choice was Nexus 6P, but now I'm also looking into Z5.
I don't care about price.
My only question is Does unlocking bootloader on Z5 affect camera quality?
According to Sony's Official Bootloader Unlock Website :
for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible
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If yes, I'll stick with 6P
Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
Ben36 said:
Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
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Damn Sony!
I can live my life with stock roms, but not without unlocked bootloader and root
To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
Ben36 said:
To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
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i want root just for adaway
gwiqu said:
i want root just for adaway
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Have you tried Adguard? No root needed.

How I can get longer SS ?

Hi,
I want to know if it's possible to have a longer shutter speed ? I try Camera FV-5 but I can get only 1/10 and just 1s in Manual mode with stock camera app. And for the price of the phone, I find this pretty annoying..
Thanks in advance
Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain you can't, without root that is.
Unless Sony remedies that in a future update or something.
Syberyon said:
Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain you can't, without root that is.
Unless Sony remedies that in a future update or something.
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I'm actually rooted, is there a solution with root ?

S8+ camera pro

Hey guys. I have a big question. Tonight i want to take some pictures to Milky Way. And where is the 30 second shutter speed. Becouse with 10 second the result is bad. Or someone can help with the settings? I tryed to take one shot with ISO 100 and shutter speed 10s. But with 10s its impossible. I need 30s. Where can i find that option? Thanks guys. :good:
You can find that option here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/zero-camera-mod-bitrates-jpg-hdr-af-t3625797
zeroprobe said:
You can find that option here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/zero-camera-mod-bitrates-jpg-hdr-af-t3625797
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Thanks. i know this option. But the phone needs to be rooted and i dont want to lose my guarantee.. yesterday i tried to take the milky way with 10s but the result is bad..
Try another camera app that supports a longer shutter speed. The native camera app is a system app and you can't change the system without root.
rkhighlight said:
Try another camera app that supports a longer shutter speed. The native camera app is a system app and you can't change the system without root.
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I tried with Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera apps but also 10s is the biggest shutter speed..
Robocoop12 said:
I tried with Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera apps but also 10s is the biggest shutter speed..
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It won't be possible without root. A library file has to be changed.
zeroprobe said:
It won't be possible without root. A library file has to be changed.
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And another option doesn't exist?
Robocoop12 said:
And another option doesn't exist?
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Unfortunately not, you will be hardcoded to 10 second maximum.
zeroprobe said:
Unfortunately not, you will be hardcoded to 10 second maximum.
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Ok. Thanks. So i need to forget the milky way. Landscape photos are amazing so..
I thought to buy a camera, Nikon D5300. But is really expensive. And the lenses are much expensive than the camera body..
Robocoop12 said:
Ok. Thanks. So i need to forget the milky way. Landscape photos are amazing so..
I thought to buy a camera, Nikon D5300. But is really expensive. And the lenses are much expensive than the camera body..
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Get it rooted. After 2 weeks your phone won't fail if it was going to it would do it within that time.
zeroprobe said:
Get it rooted. After 2 weeks your phone won't fail if it was going to it would do it within that time.
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I dont want to lose the guarantee..and i heard if i get it rooted, after that i will have some problems with my phone..and i do t want that..
Robocoop12 said:
I dont want to lose the guarantee..and i heard if i get it rooted, after that i will have some problems with my phone..and i do t want that..
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dont root if you dont want to since samsung pay, secure folder etcwill never at all work if your knox gets tripped.
ahamed.rafi135 said:
dont root if you dont want to since samsung pay, secure folder etcwill never at all work if your knox gets tripped.
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I used Android pay today on mine with magisk root.
Just seen Samsung Pay checks Knox instead. Guess theres no workaround for that one.
ahamed.rafi135 said:
dont root if you dont want to since samsung pay, secure folder etcwill never at all work if your knox gets tripped.
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Anyway i don't use these apps : Secure Folder and Samsung Pay. But for me 'ROOT' means something what makes my phone worse.
And what about if i'll root my phone for 2-3 days? After when i shot the milky way, i will delete or take it off the root. Its possible?
Robocoop12 said:
Anyway i don't use these apps : Secure Folder and Samsung Pay. But for me 'ROOT' means something what makes my phone worse.
And what about if i'll root my phone for 2-3 days? After when i shot the milky way, i will delete or take it off the root. Its possible?
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Yes, it is possible. But just for your information rooting doesnt make the phone worse, you could actually increase it's speed, battery life etc.
Also once you root it then on e and for all ypur phone is classified as software tampered device (since knox is tripped, noway to reset it till now) by samsung. So in case in future you want to use samsung pay theres noway 4 it.
Anyways if you insist in doing then you can proceed in doing (atb)
ahamed.rafi135 said:
Yes, it is possible. But just for your information rooting doesnt make the phone worse, you could actually increase it's speed, battery life etc.
Also once you root it then on e and for all ypur phone is classified as software tampered device (since knox is tripped, noway to reset it till now) by samsung. So in case in future you want to use samsung pay theres noway 4 it.
Anyways if you insist in doing then you can proceed in doing (atb)
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Really? Someone told me rooting will make the phone worse, with many problems..
I dont know...this phone is expensive, and i really don't want to lose it or to have problems with the software or anything else..
I think, i try to root for 5-7 days, and if there is no problem or something bad, i will keep it.
Robocoop12 said:
Really? Someone told me rooting will make the phone worse, with many problems..
I dont know...this phone is expensive, and i really don't want to lose it or to have problems with the software or anything else..
I think, i try to root for 5-7 days, and if there is no problem or something bad, i will keep it.
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Yes when you dont do with proper assistance or experience, thats why im here advising people, since i have an experien e with s7 edge, i somehow corrupted efs folder and lost imei i dint have a backup so i had to give 900Dhirhams to repair. Thats why im not taking a chance with my s8+ but all this which i told happens only whenbu install custom rom then mess up with it, it doesnt happen when you just root it.
So jus be careful..!!!
ahamed.rafi135 said:
Yes when you dont do with proper assistance or experience, thats why im here advising people, since i have an experien e with s7 edge, i somehow corrupted efs folder and lost imei i dint have a backup so i had to give 900Dhirhams to repair. Thats why im not taking a chance with my s8+ but all this which i told happens only whenbu install custom rom then mess up with it, it doesnt happen when you just root it.
So jus be careful..!!!
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I dont want to install custom roms. I just want that 30 second option for shutter speed. And to increase the battery life and etc...i hate custom roms. The original rom is the best for me.
Robocoop12 said:
I dont want to install custom roms. I just want that 30 second option for shutter speed. And to increase the battery life and etc...i hate custom roms. The original rom is the best for me.
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Then its ok, atb!!
ahamed.rafi135 said:
Then its ok, atb!!
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Thanks. And how to root the phone?

IS there a way to root your XZP on oreo without using XperiaFIX

Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
Inerent said:
20 EUR is a heck lot, but paying 750 EUR for a phone is not. Probably you live in a villa and drive a mercedes s klasse?
Sorry for trolling but I'm still not convinced to root. What do I gain? A poor xz2 camera port who brings minor improvements to low light and... and nothing out there.
Snappatch is eye candy but i will root for one of these 3 reasons: 120hz display, or fullhd 960, or 4k hdr recording.
Stock rom is the best right now. I have disabled all bkoatware, even youtube, facebook and Chrome. Now I'm using youtube vanced and opera browser both with adds blocking and the phone is super fast.
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How did u do that (disabling all bloatware)
I want to do same xD
I've said disabled, not removed. Just disable the app you wish from settings apps, show system apps etc
sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
Actually you don't need to pay first that wasn't his full works coz there was some people who helped to find the drmfix and twrp and androplus kernel are free and you can find the drmpatch anywhere
sylaw said:
Okay so i knw if you need to root your XZP you need XperiFIX , But you have to pay 20Eu for that. i dunno where you guys live but from my country currency that's a hecking lot. i Wonder if there is a easy and a free way to do the root on oreos newest security patch with DRM keys. Thank you
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Everything you want to do is available, but you have to be willing to use ADB and Fastboot to flash files. You don't "do root on Oreo's newest security patch." If you want to begin modding your phone then it's important to know what you are doing first.
To do anything you need to unlock your bootloader. This will completely remove the partition with your DRM keys (your camera won't work and you'll need a patch) and you can never restore them. Rooting and using a DRM patch simply 'fools' the system into thinking you have them. However, unlike most other Android phones, with so little development being done for this phone, if you like keeping your security updated, I'd strongly recommend not unlocking your bootloader. You can also never take another OTA update, so you'll need to become comfortable with either using one or two ROMs you can find forever and hope they're updated, or gather all the pieces and then install new stock firmware every time you want to update your system. And, you'll still need to hope someone updates a kernel that allows you to DRM patch your phone for each OS update.
However, if you do, then you can flash a custom recovery with Fastboot and from there on, pretty much do all your flashing from it.
Blackghosthm said:
Use janjan thread.thats all.
Xz2 camera port have a much diffrence in photo quality with stock specially in lowlight and if you use turbo rom wich already included drm fix you gonna get 4k screen wich is easily kills 1080p man you gonna really feel a big change.
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Is there a way to get that 4K Res without rooting? Is it same as abd method?

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